Either it’s Darvin Ham not pushing for it. Or LeBron James not wanting to implement it.
Pick your poison.
SpecialistNewt267
Hard to trust sets when it generates and open looks followed by your shooters throwing up a brick
Ia_in_4
This is pretty much the difference. Denver’s analytics guys are clearly on top of it.
Tall_Succotash
It matches the eye test, we always come out guns blazing but the second half starts and the lakers just start doing cardio out there and running the clock out etc
AndroidPizzaParty
I don’t know but it was pretty fucking obviously just watching the game in the second half that they weren’t organized.
Bennnnetttt
“Orga-what now?” Darvin Ham probably.
SnooTigers806
Stamina + the team isn’t fully bought into Ham’s schemes.
FunIsWinning
We always do this, we rely on Bron when 4th quarter comes. I’m not saying that Bron can’t do it, but it will be ineffective whenever 39 years old Bron is gassed when 4th quarter comes because him and AD are our only offense the whole game. Our 3rd-5th option needs to step up in the offense at least in the first 3 quarters if we want to rely on Bron in the 4th. Or we can simply run sets in the 4th but I doubt Ham will make that adjustment.
SPMrFantastic
Ham is the equivalent of an NFL coach who has the first dozen plays scripted out and then has no idea what to do the rest of the game and is unable to make adjustments on the fly
runninthruthe818
As the game goes on – Lebron starts pounding the rock for 15 seconds. Thats really all this says to me.
Lebron gets a pass for this because ITS LEBRON.
The real issue is Ham needs to do a better job of setting up plays out of timeouts to get us easy baskets and getting the team back on track.
Willxzero
Every team will go on a run at some point in the game, it’s how they react and respond to that run that is the difference between the Lakers and Nuggets. Too often the Lakers lose their composure and start taking 30 foot 3’s or LeBron holding it for 20 seconds. This is where they miss someone like Rondo, who can put guys in the right positions and get it to the right players. Without Rondo, the Lakers don’t win that series in 2020 to Denver. It was also Rondo who passed it to AD for the winner.
jokull1234
I wonder if the altitude is playing a part in that drop. When you’re tired you don’t want to run around and set up plays, you settle for shots.
And of course, the lakers didn’t fly to Denver until Friday and didn’t get acclimated to the city.
eric2018wong
Probably mentally gave up when our guards couldn’t hit an open 3s. We started seeing AD pump up 3s.
Savage_Ball3r
Darvin coaches his team like how I play my 2k roster. Play Lebron for basically the whole game and home for the best 🤣
Apollo4236
Why can’t a media member ask darvin this in the post game interview 😭
AvatarMunchies
Yeah the third quarter stretch where we just insisted on jacking up threes with hella time on the shot clock was infuriating
megabassxz
Because Lebron started holding the ball and trying to be the point guard. The result: 7 turnovers. He should stop stealing roles and let DLo or Reaves do point guard duties. He averages nearly 4 turnovers per game, and he doubles it in Game 1.
bruswazi
Lakers get demoralized and resort to hero ball plus Lebron is ancient so his energy levels wane as his playing time goes up.
izzyllamas
It was obvious there was a stretch we just jacked up shots and missed giving our defense no chance. Had we not done that maybe would have survived. Coach is a freaking moron.
Internet-Troll
Lebron killing ball movement more and more each quarter isn’t funny anymore, and what makes it worse is that he would throw bomb passes after wasted so much time while he himself has the hot hand but won’t shoot. Dudes literally useless when you need him most.
JayCrenshaw
Defense makes adjustments. We don’t have the talent to keep up. We can’t even make an open 3 because AD and Bron are surrounded by bums.
oshinla
Lebron has more nba experience than our entire coaching staff combined. Ham put together a bunch of inexperienced bums
Rich-Presentation744
Ham has to learn Malone is going to make changes coming into the second hand and need to be able to adjust to those changes. They got a bunch of good looks in the first half they just were missing, we have to play better defense too man. But I believe Dlo is going to come back stronger man !
Alternatively_Built_
For added context on what counts as organized offense and what doesn’t, I think this tweet provides good examples:
I feel like they rely too much on head hunting with Lebron in the second half….
bee-eazy13
Losing 9 straight tells me, they know how to adjust and take away what we want to do.
No team beats themselves that many times in a row.
Also, did anyone see how hard we played in that first half to build that lead? Once your energy fades even a little bit…Denver’s size and athleticism is gonna be too much.
We have to go 100% just to keep up with their 80%. Once we run out of gas to go 100%….its game over once they start to crank up the intensity.
_mattyjoe
Because they are an inept and poorly run organization from top to bottom. I don’t even know basketball the way many others do, and it’s incredibly obvious to me that this team is flat out being run terribly.
1. Player conditioning is bad. The standards for player behavior are bad. Other teams are stronger, faster, and have more stamina, leading to more consistent performance.
2. Coaching is abysmal. Our players lack basic fundamentals. They take possessions off. They lose focus. They lack mental toughness. Our schemes are terrible, and worst of all, we can’t adjust at all when the other team figures out a way to kick our asses.
3. Favoritism and incompetence in many positions because of the Buss family’s out of touch and worn out way of doing things. I’ve talked to people who work for the Lakers, and they’ve confirmed this. I met someone who was in their marketing department for a while, and she said a lot of people leave, or can’t move up, because the Buss family tends to promote their friends and then just leave them in those positions.
You can’t run a good organization this way, especially not in the NBA. There’s too much opportunity for the other teams who aren’t lazy and complacent to just kick your ass. And that’s exactly what’s happening, and the Lakers remain completely clueless.
fostyinthebuilding
Nuggets caught us sleeping in the third to go on a little run and that was all she wrote
Didn’t help that we started missing a ton of shots and the only one to stop the bleeding was TP
gustavosgack
When I was at the game last night they had so many different percentages from the teams on the Jumbotron. Tracking literally fucking everything it was super cool. Lakers, don’t do that, probably cause they don’t have the personnel. Which is crazy cause you’re in LA.
rick_32
One team is VERY poorly coached…
UD_Hunter
Pretty fucking obvious the team ain’t running shit when there is no ball movement and we settle for an AD three .
Overall_Nuggie_876
If Gen X-Lakers fans got traumatized at the Jazz being devastatingly efficient in 1997 and 1998, their Gen Z kids are getting traumatized at Jokic, KCP, and these Nuggets being devastatingly efficient against today’s Lakers.
Speaking of that, I’m seeing disturbingly similar coaching approaches from Del Harris-then and Darvin Ham-now, allowing Shaq/Kobe and LeBron/AD to play and their opponents stopping everyone else with no counter.
Nervous-Guava-7390
And Q1 we were up double digits bruh
Fire Darvin Hamas
NotFamousEnough
Lakers got out coached last season and they are gonna get out coached this season.
FaroutIGE
8 for 29 on 3pt attempts and they won by 11. so hypothetically, if we just went 12-29 and that gave us the win, would we still be saying that we should run plays instead? I personally don’t want Dlo to stop taking those shots. It was just an unfortunate night to lay an egg.
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Either it’s Darvin Ham not pushing for it. Or LeBron James not wanting to implement it.
Pick your poison.
Hard to trust sets when it generates and open looks followed by your shooters throwing up a brick
This is pretty much the difference. Denver’s analytics guys are clearly on top of it.
It matches the eye test, we always come out guns blazing but the second half starts and the lakers just start doing cardio out there and running the clock out etc
I don’t know but it was pretty fucking obviously just watching the game in the second half that they weren’t organized.
“Orga-what now?” Darvin Ham probably.
Stamina + the team isn’t fully bought into Ham’s schemes.
We always do this, we rely on Bron when 4th quarter comes. I’m not saying that Bron can’t do it, but it will be ineffective whenever 39 years old Bron is gassed when 4th quarter comes because him and AD are our only offense the whole game. Our 3rd-5th option needs to step up in the offense at least in the first 3 quarters if we want to rely on Bron in the 4th. Or we can simply run sets in the 4th but I doubt Ham will make that adjustment.
Ham is the equivalent of an NFL coach who has the first dozen plays scripted out and then has no idea what to do the rest of the game and is unable to make adjustments on the fly
As the game goes on – Lebron starts pounding the rock for 15 seconds. Thats really all this says to me.
Lebron gets a pass for this because ITS LEBRON.
The real issue is Ham needs to do a better job of setting up plays out of timeouts to get us easy baskets and getting the team back on track.
Every team will go on a run at some point in the game, it’s how they react and respond to that run that is the difference between the Lakers and Nuggets. Too often the Lakers lose their composure and start taking 30 foot 3’s or LeBron holding it for 20 seconds. This is where they miss someone like Rondo, who can put guys in the right positions and get it to the right players. Without Rondo, the Lakers don’t win that series in 2020 to Denver. It was also Rondo who passed it to AD for the winner.
I wonder if the altitude is playing a part in that drop. When you’re tired you don’t want to run around and set up plays, you settle for shots.
And of course, the lakers didn’t fly to Denver until Friday and didn’t get acclimated to the city.
Probably mentally gave up when our guards couldn’t hit an open 3s. We started seeing AD pump up 3s.
Darvin coaches his team like how I play my 2k roster. Play Lebron for basically the whole game and home for the best 🤣
Why can’t a media member ask darvin this in the post game interview 😭
Yeah the third quarter stretch where we just insisted on jacking up threes with hella time on the shot clock was infuriating
Because Lebron started holding the ball and trying to be the point guard. The result: 7 turnovers. He should stop stealing roles and let DLo or Reaves do point guard duties. He averages nearly 4 turnovers per game, and he doubles it in Game 1.
Lakers get demoralized and resort to hero ball plus Lebron is ancient so his energy levels wane as his playing time goes up.
It was obvious there was a stretch we just jacked up shots and missed giving our defense no chance. Had we not done that maybe would have survived. Coach is a freaking moron.
Lebron killing ball movement more and more each quarter isn’t funny anymore, and what makes it worse is that he would throw bomb passes after wasted so much time while he himself has the hot hand but won’t shoot. Dudes literally useless when you need him most.
Defense makes adjustments. We don’t have the talent to keep up. We can’t even make an open 3 because AD and Bron are surrounded by bums.
Lebron has more nba experience than our entire coaching staff combined. Ham put together a bunch of inexperienced bums
Ham has to learn Malone is going to make changes coming into the second hand and need to be able to adjust to those changes. They got a bunch of good looks in the first half they just were missing, we have to play better defense too man. But I believe Dlo is going to come back stronger man !
For added context on what counts as organized offense and what doesn’t, I think this tweet provides good examples:
https://twitter.com/Tim_NBA/status/1782074969167446099
I feel like they rely too much on head hunting with Lebron in the second half….
Losing 9 straight tells me, they know how to adjust and take away what we want to do.
No team beats themselves that many times in a row.
Also, did anyone see how hard we played in that first half to build that lead? Once your energy fades even a little bit…Denver’s size and athleticism is gonna be too much.
We have to go 100% just to keep up with their 80%. Once we run out of gas to go 100%….its game over once they start to crank up the intensity.
Because they are an inept and poorly run organization from top to bottom. I don’t even know basketball the way many others do, and it’s incredibly obvious to me that this team is flat out being run terribly.
1. Player conditioning is bad. The standards for player behavior are bad. Other teams are stronger, faster, and have more stamina, leading to more consistent performance.
2. Coaching is abysmal. Our players lack basic fundamentals. They take possessions off. They lose focus. They lack mental toughness. Our schemes are terrible, and worst of all, we can’t adjust at all when the other team figures out a way to kick our asses.
3. Favoritism and incompetence in many positions because of the Buss family’s out of touch and worn out way of doing things. I’ve talked to people who work for the Lakers, and they’ve confirmed this. I met someone who was in their marketing department for a while, and she said a lot of people leave, or can’t move up, because the Buss family tends to promote their friends and then just leave them in those positions.
You can’t run a good organization this way, especially not in the NBA. There’s too much opportunity for the other teams who aren’t lazy and complacent to just kick your ass. And that’s exactly what’s happening, and the Lakers remain completely clueless.
Nuggets caught us sleeping in the third to go on a little run and that was all she wrote
Didn’t help that we started missing a ton of shots and the only one to stop the bleeding was TP
When I was at the game last night they had so many different percentages from the teams on the Jumbotron. Tracking literally fucking everything it was super cool. Lakers, don’t do that, probably cause they don’t have the personnel. Which is crazy cause you’re in LA.
One team is VERY poorly coached…
Pretty fucking obvious the team ain’t running shit when there is no ball movement and we settle for an AD three .
If Gen X-Lakers fans got traumatized at the Jazz being devastatingly efficient in 1997 and 1998, their Gen Z kids are getting traumatized at Jokic, KCP, and these Nuggets being devastatingly efficient against today’s Lakers.
Speaking of that, I’m seeing disturbingly similar coaching approaches from Del Harris-then and Darvin Ham-now, allowing Shaq/Kobe and LeBron/AD to play and their opponents stopping everyone else with no counter.
And Q1 we were up double digits bruh
Fire Darvin Hamas
Lakers got out coached last season and they are gonna get out coached this season.
8 for 29 on 3pt attempts and they won by 11. so hypothetically, if we just went 12-29 and that gave us the win, would we still be saying that we should run plays instead? I personally don’t want Dlo to stop taking those shots. It was just an unfortunate night to lay an egg.