[O’Connor] “League sources tell me there’s a real possibility that Horst will take the gig in Detroit— Giannis was more or less able to choose Adrian Griffin to be the Bucks head coach, even though Horst wanted Nick Nurse. Then ownership chose Doc Rivers, though Horst wanted Kenny Atkinson”
by Pickleskennedy1
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Horst vindicated. Obviously he could of made better moves around the edges but the HC debacle this year was the most debilitating thing to the team and he was on the right side of it and essentially screwed by ownership and Giannis.
Giannis you are a great player, but you aren’t a GM.
Horst, love ya, but if you didn’t have those powers, it’s probably best for both sides to move on
Fucking Jimmy Haslam. Kills everything he touches
The bad news, the ownership that didn’t like Gianni’s’ pick, or Horsts pick, are still the owners. They won’t want to fire Doc because he is their pick. Now the make Horst fall on the sword, and can put in a GM that does their bidding.
Shit show in Milwaukee
Giannis is my favorite player in any sport of all time, but i think he fucked us here. Not hiring nurse was such a massive mistake. Giannis plays the humble card but there have been several times this year where he’s shown his big ego and stubbornness (ballgate, not sitting out when partially injured, choosing Griffin) and it really messed up the team.
We need an alpha to come in and coach him up in more ways than one, if we want to win more shots at a title and less first round exits.
Horst has done a fantastic job keeping Giannis in Milwaukee and building a team that could compete around him. But I’d love a new philosophy and someone who could actually draft. Pretty concerning that our gm could walk before arguably the most important and most complex offseason in team history though. We only get one or two more shots to make this work with Giannis and if we don’t have a plan now then we’re pretty fucked
3 thoughts on this:
1) The timing of these extra details confirming Horst didn’t want Griffin or Rivers as coach is awfully beneficial to Horst for distancing himself from the outcome of this team.
2) To say Horst spent “years of bolstering the roster around Giannis, the Bucks now have the second-oldest team in the league” but then to say Horst didn’t want Rivers because he “has historically given playing time to declining veterans over deserving young talent” is rather disingenuous since Horst filled the roster with vets.
3) Despite this, it’s probably accurate anyway, and the Bucks are in a rough spot asset-wise.
Doc to become GM? Hopefully that way when we hire a new coach his current contact isn’t just lighting money on fire (again).
I feel like if Horst leaves that would at least be some kind of positive to come, but who knows how Doc would be as GM.
Considering how much in that article is straight up wrong, I don’t know how much stock I’d put into his reporting on this.
The good new is we have Giannis and Dame under contract for 3 years. Many of the vets won’t be back next year and Brook is on an expiring. Giannis + Dame + Khris + the young Bucks is a solid foundation, plus we have our 1st and Blazers 2nd this year. We can make some moves but we’re gonna probably have to part ways with Brook and/or Bobby.
Remember when people said Haslam getting ownership steak won’t impact the team?
This FO has looked like a dumpster fire since he got on board
Can we chill on the whole nurse would solve all our issues. Last time I checked, his team is also down 3-1 in the finals. They lost Embiid and their record fell just as quickly. Doc has his issues but rn he’s on the same level as nurse for me.
Proof positive that you should never just blindly listen to players no matter who they are.
If you get to the point where the star player doesn’t have enough faith in the GM to do their jobs and make the moves that are in the best interest of the team then you should find a new GM.
Letting the player run things is among the worst things you can do.
I feel the same way towards Horst as I do Bobby. I appreciate what he did for our championship run, but I’m ready to move on. Horst doesn’t value young players and picks enough, and I don’t want him dealing away all of the rest of our chances at getting younger just for washed vets.
bull shit my ass, the only way hes taking that job is if bucks ownership sends him packing
fuck!! please get someone who can draft and won’t trade for only vets. thankful for horst but the man couldn’t draft worth dick and the jae trade was really bad or the donte trade. really acting like Giannis came in the office and held people hostage for Griff when its the gm’s job to make those decisions.
I rather would’ve had someone else over Nurse, but the closer it got to the end, I was really pulling for him. I understand the desire to appease Giannis, but Giannis isn’t LeGM. We’ve seen his previous All-Star game line up selections and they weren’t very good. Although freakishly athletically gifted and hard working, his basketball IQ is quite average, and I wouldn’t have allowed him to have that much influence on picking the head coach.
Doc was one I never would’ve selected, but we’re stuck with him now, and I’m not sure who else we could’ve gone with. Could we really have selected Atkinson like that mid season? Seems odd…
My dude stop leaking BS Horst. You haven’t made a single good move since the Jrue trade and even the moves before that one werent good.
All you have to do was look at Giannis and pair him with actual wing defenders.
You litterally lucked into Lopez signing for cheap because of a disaster in LA. You lucked out that Bobby found the love he wanted from the people in Milwaukee. What have you even done to help? The Jrue trade was the only W.
Jurys out on Dame, but its not looking promising. And you still fucking hired Doc. Stand on your fucking morals and walk away if ownership told you its Doc.
Have fun in Detroit. Without a Giannis onto carry the Geriatric Hospital you like to assemble.
Instead of whittling it down to 3 and asking Giannis. You should have whittled it down to 10 and asked Giannis to eliminate 2 or 3 and chosen from the rest yourself.
Very interesting.