So everything is Ham fault? At some point the players gotta play too
Yellow_Evan
Also why we shouldn’t blow up the team.
silvio_
Ham is bad and gotta go but acting like this roster is good enough is just hilarous. While series still going d’lo and rui stans was hiding, now they came back. Just a friendly advise. Wait couple of weeks. Now is not the right time for you.
Theingloriousak2
So in the 165 minutes we are leading vs the defending champions it has nothing to do with the coach and schemes
But in the 59 minutes we are losing it’s all the coach
That’s what yall don’t understand you can’t have it both ways…
_its_a_SWEATER_
Ok, I like the roster, save a couple of missing pieces, but if DLo showed up in Gms 1 & 3, it would have masked Ham’s coaching. Losing by close margins is not nearly as bad as the fact we had sizable leads in these games, and just squandered them.
Rapa_Nui
5 games in a row the team collapsed in the last 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter and Ham was never able to do shit about it.
ngmathew1234
It was also a player issue too.
goatnxtinline
This is so annoying. When the team has double digit leads and you allow the other team to go on a run, when you see your players are exhausted and you leave game 2 with two timeouts and a challenge, when you play a small ball lineup in the playoffs that has literally never played any minutes before. This is a coaching issue.
In the end he didn’t take any responsibility for any of it. It’s always about effort and what the players could have done better. I’m gonna tell you right now, Lebron and AD are the only reason this coach saw any success these past two seasons. But you can’t hide behind your superstars when game time decisions need to be made where time and time again all season he exposed himself as a coach that was way over his head or outright didn’t know what he was doing. Imagine not having a timeout at the end of the game to advance the ball, I’m genuinely not confident that he knew that he wouldn’t get that timeout back after the challenge.
But yes, as some of you pointed out. Some of this falls on the players. But at the same time the players don’t control what they can’t control and it’s within those details that a competent coach will put their team in a position to win.
Which clearly they were good enough to do if only they had one.
CreepyBeefy
The big reason for optimism that the lakers can win another ring is Bron and AD. Surround them with the right guys and we can win. The play of your two stars rises every playoffs you can rely on that.
Consistent_Owl4593
Players not boxing out was a pretty big issue as well
incredibleamadeuscho
First time I’ve ever seen this stat in the playoffs. It means nothing really, other than the fact that the Lakers played good first halves. I think if they played first halves like that all season, they wouldnt be the seventh seed.
Wise_Ad_112
Lost 2 games with game winners at the end. You gotta make the shots when it matters most. This team can’t rebound or get stops when it matters the most
mopedrudl
It’s also a depth problem to be fair. AD goes down and have a huge gap. We can’t replace him but back in the days we had Howard and McGee to provide solid help.
Furthermore, we don’t have consistent role players, especially not when it matters the most – down the line.
Ham still deserves blame. We should have met this team in the CF. That would have given some role players some more confidence. He absolutely screwed our reg season and parts of the playoffs.
Flopdo
I think everything changes about this season, if the correct players were played. I still stand by my statement early this season that the roster is championship caliber.
I know Rui had some injuries early, but if Reaves and Dlo were never benched, and Prince and Reddish were never made starters, this team would have been top 3 in the league. Then the entire narrative changes. And unfortunately, even w/ top pros, narratives to play a role in people’s psyche’s.
I still think this roster is better than the nuggets, albeit barely. With an NBA level head coach, and a fairly called game 2, I think they beat this team in 7.
Denver isn’t going to face a tougher opponent, so the championship is there’s to lose.
Rocky2416
D’lo and Reaves is not a winning backcourt. It’ll be tough but need to get some athleticism in the backcourt.
Love ya D’lo but it’s time.
goldenbzzz
Been saying it since day 1. 2 chips wasted
Munk45
It’s also a stamina problem.
The Nuggies are young and they have explosive energy.
LennoxAve
A few possessions away from going to the second round. Small slip ups that could’ve been fixed with efficient coaching.
RealQuireSultan
Stamina also
LeFatigue
The only thing this stat shows me is that the team lacked discipline and patience. No where in any of the losses did the lakers show the ability to regain control of the game. They would go stretches where they wouldn’t even touch the paint, have unforced turnovers, chuck bad shots.
I don’t buy the fatigue nonsense, or even just putting this at the feet of Darvin Ham alone. As a team from coaching staff to players the lakers played an unserious brand of basketball from the start of the season to the end.
UD_Hunter
Missing open shots , missing free throws , not rebounding .
It wasn’t a skill issue either.
It was mental .
obelix_asterix
for real for real
VastAmphibian
BOTH teams were tied for 16 minutes? For how long was just 1 team tied?
SellingPapierMache
I didn’t realize how impt it is to lead during the game. Apparently the Nuggets didn’t either since they only gave a shit about having a lead at the end of the game. Lakers can take this stat and post it as a medal on the IST banner.
hennyV
Its also a player problem. Im all for getting rid of Ham, as he makes things worse, but you can’t have DLO put up 0 points. You can’t miss 9 FT in a game decided by a point. You can’t give the opponent tons of second chances via OREBs. We have a good roster on paper, they just can’t perform under pressure.
m4rxUp
These are really the only players who should remain on the roster going into FA: Lebron, AD, Reaves, Vando, Christie, Gabe (maybe) and Prince (maybe). Need competent backup bigs and role players.
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So everything is Ham fault? At some point the players gotta play too
Also why we shouldn’t blow up the team.
Ham is bad and gotta go but acting like this roster is good enough is just hilarous. While series still going d’lo and rui stans was hiding, now they came back. Just a friendly advise. Wait couple of weeks. Now is not the right time for you.
So in the 165 minutes we are leading vs the defending champions it has nothing to do with the coach and schemes
But in the 59 minutes we are losing it’s all the coach
That’s what yall don’t understand you can’t have it both ways…
Ok, I like the roster, save a couple of missing pieces, but if DLo showed up in Gms 1 & 3, it would have masked Ham’s coaching. Losing by close margins is not nearly as bad as the fact we
had sizable leads in these games, and just squandered them.
5 games in a row the team collapsed in the last 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter and Ham was never able to do shit about it.
It was also a player issue too.
This is so annoying. When the team has double digit leads and you allow the other team to go on a run, when you see your players are exhausted and you leave game 2 with two timeouts and a challenge, when you play a small ball lineup in the playoffs that has literally never played any minutes before. This is a coaching issue.
In the end he didn’t take any responsibility for any of it. It’s always about effort and what the players could have done better. I’m gonna tell you right now, Lebron and AD are the only reason this coach saw any success these past two seasons. But you can’t hide behind your superstars when game time decisions need to be made where time and time again all season he exposed himself as a coach that was way over his head or outright didn’t know what he was doing. Imagine not having a timeout at the end of the game to advance the ball, I’m genuinely not confident that he knew that he wouldn’t get that timeout back after the challenge.
But yes, as some of you pointed out. Some of this falls on the players. But at the same time the players don’t control what they can’t control and it’s within those details that a competent coach will put their team in a position to win.
Which clearly they were good enough to do if only they had one.
The big reason for optimism that the lakers can win another ring is Bron and AD. Surround them with the right guys and we can win. The play of your two stars rises every playoffs you can rely on that.
Players not boxing out was a pretty big issue as well
First time I’ve ever seen this stat in the playoffs. It means nothing really, other than the fact that the Lakers played good first halves. I think if they played first halves like that all season, they wouldnt be the seventh seed.
Lost 2 games with game winners at the end. You gotta make the shots when it matters most. This team can’t rebound or get stops when it matters the most
It’s also a depth problem to be fair. AD goes down and have a huge gap. We can’t replace him but back in the days we had Howard and McGee to provide solid help.
Furthermore, we don’t have consistent role players, especially not when it matters the most – down the line.
Ham still deserves blame. We should have met this team in the CF. That would have given some role players some more confidence. He absolutely screwed our reg season and parts of the playoffs.
I think everything changes about this season, if the correct players were played. I still stand by my statement early this season that the roster is championship caliber.
I know Rui had some injuries early, but if Reaves and Dlo were never benched, and Prince and Reddish were never made starters, this team would have been top 3 in the league. Then the entire narrative changes. And unfortunately, even w/ top pros, narratives to play a role in people’s psyche’s.
I still think this roster is better than the nuggets, albeit barely. With an NBA level head coach, and a fairly called game 2, I think they beat this team in 7.
Denver isn’t going to face a tougher opponent, so the championship is there’s to lose.
D’lo and Reaves is not a winning backcourt. It’ll be tough but need to get some athleticism in the backcourt.
Love ya D’lo but it’s time.
Been saying it since day 1. 2 chips wasted
It’s also a stamina problem.
The Nuggies are young and they have explosive energy.
A few possessions away from going to the second round. Small slip ups that could’ve been fixed with efficient coaching.
Stamina also
The only thing this stat shows me is that the team lacked discipline and patience. No where in any of the losses did the lakers show the ability to regain control of the game. They would go stretches where they wouldn’t even touch the paint, have unforced turnovers, chuck bad shots.
I don’t buy the fatigue nonsense, or even just putting this at the feet of Darvin Ham alone. As a team from coaching staff to players the lakers played an unserious brand of basketball from the start of the season to the end.
Missing open shots , missing free throws , not rebounding .
It wasn’t a skill issue either.
It was mental .
for real for real
BOTH teams were tied for 16 minutes? For how long was just 1 team tied?
I didn’t realize how impt it is to lead during the game. Apparently the Nuggets didn’t either since they only gave a shit about having a lead at the end of the game. Lakers can take this stat and post it as a medal on the IST banner.
Its also a player problem. Im all for getting rid of Ham, as he makes things worse, but you can’t have DLO put up 0 points. You can’t miss 9 FT in a game decided by a point. You can’t give the opponent tons of second chances via OREBs. We have a good roster on paper, they just can’t perform under pressure.
These are really the only players who should remain on the roster going into FA: Lebron, AD, Reaves, Vando, Christie, Gabe (maybe) and Prince (maybe). Need competent backup bigs and role players.