Jets high expectations, Knicks roster revamp, What went wrong for the Nuggets? | THE HERD

Jets high expectations, Knicks roster revamp, What went wrong for the Nuggets? | THE HERD

now I went jayen Brown you know me and the whole hat on forwards I like dependability so I don’t think Jaylen Brown is as skilled as Kyrie but I know what I get I know what I get toughness physicality Wing Defender same guy anything in that top 10 that bothered you no so if I can see the whole thing again I I think Drew holiday is uh I think that’s more based on his history you had him 10th right they’re not I’m not seeing it right now but the he he has not been up to that level in these playoffs but his history of being a champion and being a leader I think earns his spot on the list I have no problem with your top five at all I think having Luca number one is smart and correct ant number two and Tatum three I think that has to be the one through three you people could argue that halberton based on what he was as certainly in the beginning of the regular season should be higher and he came on strong at the end of the second round and so credit to him I do want to say something about Kyrie though Colin yeah because I have been so impressed by Kyrie Irving all year Kyrie seems to have matured in a way in his early 30s that is in my experience rare I think guys usually you know mature a lot in their mid to late 20s but who they are at 30 is kind of who they’re going to to be and Kyrie Irving taking on a totally new role with this team going taking a step back offensively committing himself defensively in a way he never has clearly trying to be the Elder Statesman leader and this is crazy but it’s true of all the stars in the playoffs he’s the oldest left by far and was the oldest left after round one ended at the guy who’s 313 2 years old and I think Kyrie is the best version of himself that we have seen outside of Cleveland yeah and I also think he has been strategic in understanding he has not been on a deep playoff run in seven years he has suffered some injuries since then and I think he’s tried to kind of throttle his intensity and effort to Second halves of games trying to make sure he has something left in the tank he he’s one of the major reasons alongside Luca obviously that I think the Mavs can win the whole thing so I grew up as you know I’m a bit older in the 70s is when I fell in love with the NBA and there were a lot of very good teams the Sixers had a Dr Jay and a George mcginness and a Mo Mo Cheeks and Andrew Tony if I recall and and Steve mix and and then you had the sonics with Gus and DJ and the Blazers had Walton and the Warriors had Rick Barry and Elvin hayzen unell with Washington a bunch of very good teams no great ones and then it’s just dynasties up until about 6 years ago and after watching Denver and Minnesota I’m like well I I thought Denver could be San Antonio and they’re they’re not probably going to be I didn’t really criticize Denver for losing my takeaway was well Minnesota the same guy that built Denver helped build Minnesota they built him to beat Denver that’s right and I just felt like no no criticism of Denver it’s just these are all including the Celtics very good teams no great teams fair so that I think that’s fair I think that is a little bit of a criticism in that Denver was being discussed as a potential Dynasty as a not very good team but a great team and the way in which they lost has to matter yeah they were up 32 in a series against a team full of guys every single guy that played in Minnesota except Mike connley this was the biggest games of their lives and Denver is the team that blinked up 32 Denver loses by 45 points and then in game six and then in game seven blows a 20o second half lead and I know it’s become very you know invogue to say ah 20o leads in the modern NBA what do they really mean well this year in the NBA team teams that were up 20 in the second half won 96% of their games in NBA playoff history teams up 20 in the second half win 97% of their games that was a collapse and while I thought joic was absolutely brilliant in games four and five two perfect offensive performances and I thought he was good not necessarily great but good in game seven a loss like this does stagger you as far as when you’re trying to climb the ranks historically and now he joic was being handed player of the era Giannis now is going to have something to say about that Yannis who by the way has been in the same number of Conference Finals the same number of NBA finals the same finals MVPs yic has three League MVPs Giannis has two but also a defensive player of the year award and Giannis is title defense ended in a round two7 game loss however that one ended with Chris Middleton missing the entirety of that round due to injury and so I think Giannis Luca Giannis joic and then we’ll see if Luca can finish this thing off those three guys are going to be vying for League Supremacy over the next few seasons in my opinion all right Boston’s going to fly through the Pacers who are an egregiously bad defensive team it won’t be very competitive I’ll take Minnesota over Dallas but it’ll go six or seven I think New York not making the Eastern Conference Finals a bit of a gut punch for ESPN it was very obvious on the broadcast who they were pulling for but needless to oh you could tell I thought it was subtle they really underplayed it so um let me throw this I said this yesterday is that if you looked at the Warriors a big part of winning prek KD during KD and after KD was the culture spola Riley heat culture is that the Knicks You could argue they don’t even play like anybody else they have created a kind of a Villanova Collegiate gritty culture that has such redeemable value for a franchise that couldn’t get anything right for 20 years now my takeaway is James Dolan was paying so much attention to the sphere in Vegas which is a masterpiece that he just sort of backed off basketball basetball people took over and they’re running the Knicks like grown-ups and so my takeaway is you need another star don’t screw with the culture it’s so hard to create Warriors have it uh Heat have it I think you could argue the Knicks culture is like third fourth fifth in the league so who is the perfect piece to add to this team because I think it’s a little bit of a dilemma yep yeah I mean it’s so hard because they even if they were healthy they wouldn’t have won the title if they were healthy I believe they would have beaten Indiana and maybe could throw a scare into the Pacers but they and Jaylen is a superstar but they’re still a piece away Y and so the I I know this probably goes against what you’re thinking but my first phone call would be to Phoenix to try to get Kevin Durant because jayen can be the leader the culture is built and we have seen that if if you already have it built Durant can come in and supercharge it for you and I think he can even do that at an advanced age obviously there would be a perfect basketball fit for LeBron but I do not think LeBron is leaving I do think LeBron even at age 40 would be enough to be the final piece for them certainly in the East and maybe in the league after those two guys it gets really hard Colin Nick fans want male Bridges from the Nets to kind of complete that Villanova quartet but I don’t think I don’t think the Knicks are a male Bridges away from winning the championship they might be a male Bridges away from getting to a finals but I don’t know about winning a championship I obviously there was the Donovan Mitchell you know flirtation a couple years ago I would not go after Donovan I think that’s redundant with Jaylen Brunson and then your back court is is way way too small like do you call Chicago for a Zack LaVine I suppose I don’t I don’t I don’t think there is a perfect fit Colin other than some of our aging aging superstars in Kevin Durant and LeBron I do think what the Knicks accomplished this year was they made being a Nick cool again for the first time in 20 years they they they showed the world that MSG is still legitimate Advantage when it’s rocking and that’s a good team and I think they remade reclaimed some of that Nick’s brand I do think tibs needs to you know look at the fact that man what is this 10 years in a row my team seems a little broken down and injured at the end of the year I wonder why like maybe pump the breaks on that a tiny bit but I think the Knicks had a wildly successful season and I think brunson’s a superstar I want to shift to the NFL so last year I I pick a team every year that I’m much higher on so last year it was the Rams I was right year before it was the Vikings got that right and then I’ll miss on occasional teams I buy I listen to JM on the Saints bad decision but the team I don’t get this way to lay that right on J Max’s feet I mean that was just expert here are the ones I got WR right and the one I got wrong that I can remember not my fault I love that move it’s a great call go ahead well the show’s called The Herd I just shovel all the bad stuff yeah exactly exactly of course exactly right go ahead so I I said to myself I don’t get the Jets so yes they have a defense that’ll keep him in games and the schedule early is pretty workable but Nathaniel Hackett still there coach in the hot seat an offensive line old or Too Young Josh Allen is still the best player in the conference bich che’s gone but Mike McDaniel’s probably the best coach in the conference and the last time Aaron played for a season he had a 91 passer rating in a weaker conference yet DraftKings has them as a favorite in 14 of their 17 games I am I think they’re an eight and N that’s I didn’t know that number all right so that that listen yeah I didn’t know that they were favored in 14 of their 17 games that is now I understand that some of that has to do with the fact that you of where the games are yeah but they should not be a favorite in Pittsburgh I’m just looking at it right now they they they they should not be a favorite at home against Houston looking at that right now I I mean like hold on how many times are is Big Bob Salah a road favorite he’s a favorite in Jacksonville give me a break okay all right I I we’re going I understand you know we don’t you talk gambling with a lot of folks and you know you and I kind of moonlight with it together but we usually have our separate kind of gambling chats if you will but we can make some money fading the Jets here so let’s go through the reasons okay let’s do it they are so many of their their offseason moves are operating under the assumption of well if we have perfect health which it’s the NFL that is a faulty assumption to make with that said I understand why they took the risks they did on the offensive lineman with an injury history because they had to upgrade there and Joe Douglas who had one amazing draft and aside from that has been trying to rebuild that offensive line for a half decade and hasn’t been able to do it even though the first thing he said when he got there was he’s going to remake the offensive line so they’re trying that okay fine Rogers the point that you’re making is one that I think everyone has overlooked which is forget the Achilles the last season we saw him play he was good okay better than average but not great it’s not as if he was coming off his best football and then TS Achilles he was coming off his worst football and then folks whenever I bring up Rogers they’re like oh Nick you just don’t like him because of the things he says take my opinion of the things he says out of it if you were talking to a guy who did your taxes and the guy was like by the way I’ve got some thoughts on Teran and mud floods you’d be like oh I don’t think I can trust you if you went to a car dealer and the guy who was trying to sell you the the evv you just leased was like listen let me tell you want to argue about about Dr fouchy something you’d be like can I get somebody else I don’t this guy’s focused on my gas mileage so no I don’t know if Aaron’s going to be fully locked in on everything he needs and then you get to the coaching part of it which is I don’t believe in quarterback wins I do believe in coach wins CU that is their record is their coaching record Robert solz got one of the bottom 10 records of any coach to coach this many games in modern NFL history they don’t like the offensive coordinator so much they tried to replace him in the shadows couldn’t get that done and then it it leaks that they tried to replace hacket and now he’s still there so do I think the Jets in the AFC are a playoff team of course not do I think they should be favored on the road against anyone but New England no like so I’m with you on that entirely don’t don’t get it we got into this argument yesterday and I I made that I think you’d like this argument I said if the I think we have a Graphic on this I said if these are the four things that you should consider when paying a quarterback which is production team success and some playoff success Health are you healthy and do you have leverage production team success health and leverage momes won Allen two but by the third pick you’re like well Lamar and burrow can’t stay healthy Trevor and Herbert don’t win enough jaylen’s had one good year I made the argument that I could argute Jared gof productive Super Bowls conference Champion never gets hurt unbelievable leverage in Detroit You could argue that gof is third arguing off it fine but I said with Tua I love go here here I I know it sounds crazy with goth but you start you start adding up all these injuries I got you okay then we got the Tua and my takeaway is one year ago I was told one more concussion and he should retire by doctors what do you do with Tua concussion was the whole you don’t pay him that you don’t pay him you don’t pay him and now listen I think you’re too high on golf but that’s an argument for another day your point that he is his availability Works in his favor the fact that gol it’s very clear if you have a great offensive line he can be quite good the Lions have invested in the offensive line so they’re getting the best of him so credit to them the two of thing I think it’s just he is an undersized player that does not have the a very strong arm and some of the measurables and also the eye test when you watch the games you know he is not scary the way other Elite quarter the way the actual Elite quarterbacks are he is in the best situation imaginable from a weapons perspective he seems to truly struggle against the better teams and if there is a light Breeze much less it being downright cold and so here is what I will say about that Colin I have graded I grade Kyle Shanahan and Mike McDaniel on a bit of a curve in that I think that they get bonus points for what they have achieved without ideal quarterback situations with Kyle from Jimmy to Brock pie and ver McDaniel with Tua if the Miami Dolphins give Tua a contract extend ion I then remove that curve cuz you are then signing up for it you are then saying this is the guy that I want like Shanahan after a couple years with Jimmy Garoppolo traded away three first round picks because he knew he had to get better at quarterback obviously they missed on that and and we’ll see what py turns into but if they decide to pay Tua like he’s excellent then you don’t get graded on that curve anymore you have decided that’s your guy I wouldn’t pay him I flatly would not pay him because I don’t think the Dolphins are good enough with the stack team because of the limitations defensively and of Tua if all of a sudden you have to lose Tyreek or Wadd one of the two because you pay Tua down the road then I certainly don’t think they’ll be good enough Nick Wright first things first good seeing you as always buddy hi everybody it’s me Uncle Colin subscribe here to get the latest from the herd including exclusive behind the scenes videos and more wherever you may be however you may be watching thanks again for making us part of your day

The Denver Nuggets lost to the Minnesota Timberwolves, and Nuggets HC Michael Malone said “the season’s over… that’s what’s hard.” Colin Cowherd and Nick Wright reflect on what went wrong for the Nuggets, and ask if the New York Knicks should revamp their roster following a blowout exit to the Indiana Pacers. Plus, they discuss the expectations on the New York Jets and if they should be favored in 14 of their games this season.

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