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What Do the Cavaliers Want in a Donovan Mitchell Trade? | Miami HEAT Podcast



What Do the Cavaliers Want in a Donovan Mitchell Trade? | Miami HEAT Podcast

if there’s a major name that defines the NBA offseason it’s Donovan Mitchell will he resign with the Cavaliers will Cleveland Look to trade him and can the heat put something together to acquire their next Superstar we’re joined by locked on Cav’s host Chris Manning to answer that and more on today’s episode of Locked on [Music] heat you are locked on heat your daily Miami Heat podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your Team every day you are locked on heat your daily podcast on the Miami Heat whether you’re tuning in on YouTube Odyssey or your favorite podcast app thanks for making lock on heat your first listen every day Monday to Friday I’m West Goldberg editor at all Yukan heat.com here with David rill both of us credential heat media members and fired up to be joined by Chris Manning host of locked on Cavs also my co-host over on the just basketball show you can check that out on YouTube whenever you get your podcast as well today’s episode is brought to you by LinkedIn jobs LinkedIn jobs helps you find the qualified candidates that you want to talk to faster post your job for free at linkedin.com lockon NBA that’s linkedin.com lockon NBA to post your job for free terms and conditions apply we’re going to have the Donovan Mitchell conversation again this time with Chris uh before we get to some of the trade stuff there has been more noise out of Cleveland that the Cavs are increasingly confident that they can sign Donovan Mitchell to an extension this summer uh Chris what do you make of that reporting I it feels where we’re headed I would feel more confident guys in in that that was the direction we were going and that’s where we were headed if we knew what was going on with the c coaching search as we are recording this still no word on what’s going on with JB bicker staff still no official word on if he’s coming back the reporting and that same you know big athletic piece that I think has been the most cited in this whole discussion and with Mitchell was that Mitchell was I think frustrated with bicker St I think that was true I think it’s to me it’s pretty clearly time for a change it hasn’t happened yet wouldn’t shock me if if I’m Donovan Mitchell if you’re like are are we really running this back are we really doing this again and maybe that opens his eyes to wanting to do something different could be the case for a lot of guys on the team if I’m being honest but Mitchell’s the one with the sway with the with the leverage but I it feels like where that’s headed I don’t have a reason to doubt guys with frankly better sourcing than me but it feels like that’s where it’s headed that’s the vibe it feels like that that is where we are headed I think that means a remaking of the Cavs roster I don’t think anything’s exactly off the table as of yet until the ink is dry so to speak but yeah I think that feels like we were headed right now it sorry does it behoove Cleveland to prioritize Donovan over everything else because we’ve already heard reports that darus garland would want to trade if they resigned Donovan now they have to fire bicker staff who knows whether The Dominoes might fall as a result but it’s basically prioritizing Mitchell over everybody else on the roster and how does that shake up with everybody else in Europe I I think you have to right I mean to me it’s you’ve already spent a ton on him you gave up all these picks you gave up lot marketing all this stuff right you aren’t going to get back a full dollar I I know from texting Wes about this over the last several months that the offers you guys are going to give me later are going to be like three dimes and a couple pennies you’re going to Pat me on my back and and say have a nice day chap okay that’s what you’re going to tell me say s before you’re you’re welcome first one um they’re not gonna probably get like a full dollar back and maybe like there’s a deal out there maybe like Houston but like the whole the pick situation with the teams that would want Mitchell is a little wonky right now it just is so they’re probably not getting the full dollar back for Mitchell I also just think he’s clearly the best guy has any I’ll ask you guys this turn it on you has anyone else on the Cavs roster in the last year quitted themselves where you’re like hell yeah I want that guy the next year right Donovan Mitchell was arguably shout out heat Legend heat lifer but has anyone he culture forever baby but has anyone else on that roster in the heat in the in the Orlando series and the Celtics series no one else to me was like yeah I I’m riding with that guy in the playoffs the next couple years like let’s just push this Mitchell thing as far as it goes you already put your chips in let’s just go all in again and and if you go to me if you leverage the middle ground here you run the risk of like ending up where the Wizards are in like two years well I’m on the record as saying I wouldn’t trade Donovan Mitchell if I were Cleveland if the offers that I got back weren’t good enough like the whole idea of risking this guy walking away for nothing I think is overstated because one year again with Donovan Mitchell isn’t nothing you guys just went to the second round of the playoffs that’s not nothing you know that’s something and he like you said he’s the best player on the team Evan Mobley and him um you know those those seemed like to be the core pieces if Cleveland had their their bones about it but which is weird because the chemistry there is like a little off like that hasn’t been quite figured out yet yeah and they do need to figure that part out and if that is the future do you move Garland and Jared Allen to try to kind of Grease the wheels on that chemistry getting a little bit better my thing is this it’s if he doesn’t sign the extension can you afford to put all your dominoes in that basket as as we get used to saying here but it’s I if if they fire JB bigger staff are what’s the appetite to basically hand the keys over to Donovan Mitchell if he doesn’t have that extension in place where it said where where maybe he has some say in who the new Cavs head coach is and maybe he does have some say in whether or not Darius Garland gets traded like what’s the appetite for kind of going Full Tilt here here you are Donovan Mitchell you are our star we’re treating you like no other star we’ve ever had other than LeBron James or since LeBron James Rather what’s the appetite for something like that I think I would ra I I think they it feels like they would go that way to me and it feels like that’s the way it might go I also think they’re TR it there’s some changes in the back end and and that is maybe the unknown part of this right Dan Gilbert’s a little more in control now the reporting of late is also that Grant Gilbert his son who is more involved in the organization last couple years is now gone for the organization has still like will be around and stuff was that playoff games but is not going to be involved Dan is back involved I I don’t know what that means vcv Donovan Mitchell but it it it means something for what’s going to happen here we’re GNA find out I don’t know exactly what that’s going to mean here but I I could see a world where they’re letting Mitchell have input and honestly guys like to me I I would just lean in on the Mitchell thing that that’s a top 15 guy 20 guy whatever you want to say whatever wherever you want to put him that’s the best guy you have no one else is above a top 50 guy right now no one’s close that’s the playoff guy you have that was a top 12 10 guy in the playoffs yep just ride with that guy and again I think I think there’s a world where if you go the other way and you don’t get enough back where are you in you could see a world in three years where Garland stalls out Moy doesn’t fully develop on offense your rest of your roster has like some issues you’re already going to have some issues you keep melon with this roster which we don’t need to get into fully but there’s some issues you could end up being like the Bradley be Wizards in a different way or something like that and like you’re you’re kind of screwed I think if you go the other way if it does you have more Le the other way would you feel the same way if Donovan Mitchell told the front office straight up I’m not signing an extension here right I think it’s a small Mark you would have to right like if he says I’m absolutely not resigning next summer but maybe just I don’t know I the part of me would also say just call the bluff just one life you know that’s also not but it’s also not my maybe you just do change the coach and you do make some trades and you go for it and you say okay we’ll we’ll see this in a year cuz like you’ve already again gone so far all in you don’t have your picks anyway I don’t know what the package you they’ll they’ll know better than us what P packages they’re going to get back MH do you have a stomach to reset this fully when you’re going to be expensive anyway because Garland is expensive already Allen’s extension eligible like Mo’s extension like you’re already expensive it’s not like you can reset and have like a blank slate cost-wise like you’re in a weird spot financially on top of this like it’s you don’t really have like a way to reset this exactly so like maybe you just say f it like let’s let’s just let the chips go David you’re shaking your head a little bit yeah yeah I I just I don’t get it I I to me it’s like having a disgruntled version of Mitchell that’s basically saying I’m out the door for a year with a solid roster around him a solid maybe not great but a solid roster round second round of the playoffs this year does not seem worth it to me other than rather than the alternative which is you know what you are disgruntled things have gone badly this year we could trade you now and get something significant in return and I know we’ll talk about that a little bit later at least from the Miami perspective and other potential trade offers and we can still be competitive and build off of that retooled version rather than just let’s keep this for a year and then when Things Fall Apart eventually and they will then we’ll just go ahead and kind of start over that doesn’t seem to make sense to me any anyway so I I it’s just an interesting perspective that you’re bringing here that it’s like let’s just you know screw it let’s just go for one more year with Mitchell and see how far we can go even if he’s gonna be unhappy and already with the possibility of having to trade Garland and and who knows what happens with Allen I don’t know that just I don’t get that idea of like wanting to just prioritize MIT as good as he is I get that but I just don’t I don’t see why if you would want to just keep him on the roster that badly and let the chips fall where they may in a year when you can kind of still stay competitive and and maybe not compete for a title necessarily but I don’t you might not have been good enough to win a title even with Mitchell clearly that was the case this year so I don’t know I I just don’t uh I’m not sure I understand that I think the middle ground I think is just the scariest place to be in the NBA that is where I think I’ve gotten to I I I actually think I probably agree with you more than I’ve probably said is is where I ultim end up like I think you probably do have to trade mental he’s like yeah I’m walking I just think the middle ground is I I don’t want to be the Chicago Bulls I don’t want to be the Wizards of the Bradley beer I don’t want to be the Brooklyn Nets yeah but I mean whatever you get back from Mitchell along with Garland who you’d keep there because you trade Mitchell you know Moy Etc like that’s not that’s not the the be Wizards that’s not the Chicago but the year Garland had and the year Mo like everything this year was just so Blu that it it it didn’t indicate like the guaranteed future success you might have hoped I think is the problem I think that’s that’s the concerning part so let’s move on we’re going to talk about if the Cavs did indeed explore the trade market for Donovan Mitchell because this is not black and white right like Donovan Mitchell could tell the Cavs front office and say hey I’m not resigning here you should explore the trade market right basically what Paul George did with Indiana several years ago and then the Cavs could explore the trade market and decide you know what this is a good enough offer for us to go ahead and trade down of Mitchell or they could see what’s out there and be like we don’t like any of this stuff screw it let’s just run it back and risk him walking away for nothing a year from now we’ll talk about what the Cavs might be looking for in a trade offer that could actually pry Donovan Mitchell away after this today’s episode is brought to you by LinkedIn maybe you could post a head coaching opportunity in Cleveland at some point in LinkedIn because you know what 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would the Cavs be looking for in a Donovan Mitchell trade Chris I think more win now pieces I I think that’s still where you would go I think probably some draft assets as well because their cupboard is pretty bare you know they did give up a lot of their draft assets pretty much all of their tradeable on you get done Mitchell in the first place but I think they would want rotation pieces back I think this this playoff did show anyone who watched saw that like they were playing Marcus Morris they were throwing in George Yang back in the rotation even though it’s clear and we know what that guy is they need more rotation pieces on this team and they they would be wanting that back I think they would they would want some guys with high upside I think they would want good young players I I think they would want I mean it’s I don’t know if they can get this I think that’s probably where some of my skepticism of any Mitchell trade comes from and maybe with the heat in particular but I think they would want something like they gave up I think that’s that’s probably they’re they’re going out in the market and saying what is the closest we can get to what we gave up for Mitchell if we do have to trade him and what they gave up was Lowry marinin a future allar Colin ston a good rotation guard uh agbaji who may or may not be an NBA player still sort of trying to figure that part out and three first round picks so it was quite a bit they’re not going to get that back and I understand what you’re saying Chris like probably not going to happen but that’s sort of the cost of having Donovan Mitchell for a couple of years is you drive the car off the lot it’s not worth as much as it is anymore and so that trade package what you gave up uh you know you kind of have to subtract two years worth of Donovan Mitchell from the return and then maybe you land somewhere there but it’s interesting that you say because during our mock offseason conversation David we were talking about how you know the Cavs would probably want rotation guys like this is a team that just made the second round of the playoffs I don’t think they want to take a major step back even if they do trade are forced to kind of trade Donovan Mitchell here I don’t know the more I’m talking more we’re kind of talking through this the more it feels like if they do trade Mitchell it’ll end up being a multi-team deal to kind of help the Cavs get what they want out of this thing is it just rot is it just rotation pieces that they want or is there certain positions that they could look at is it are we are we sure that Garland can’t also get traded even if they do trade Donovan Mitchell can they retool the whole thing Evan Mo’s 20 are they looking for players more in the EV Mo window or a little bit more advanced like what do you think a little bit more specifically my challenge I think would be you H I think the coaching part of this comes in here because yeah it’s a good point like JB nice guy I don’t think he’s the coach that I want for a Donovan Mitchell team he’s not I want David Adelman I would have wanted Jordy Fernandez I want I would take Frank vogle like today over him you know like I would I would taken Mike buer like I would it’s not even a question he’s not Innovative I also don’t think Luke Walton should be the lead assistant coach of this team you know what I mean it’s like we know what Luke Walton is it probably shouldn’t be like your lead assistant on an NBA team or one of your lead assistants in 20124 he wasn’t running good offenses in Sacramento or la like he was Wes you know this probably better than both of us like he was in Golden State and he was kind of benefited from having Steph Curry and Kevin Durand and Klay Thompson and Steve cerry around him they need a new coach I think is is frankly part of this but I think they would need shooting I think this team doesn’t have enough shooting I think they need wings and like they need the thing every team kind of needs which is like a Lowry Market in size four which is where if you’re were going to tell me like you’re dealing with the heat it’s like you’re probably saying how do you feel about Nicole yic do you like Nicole yic can I can I put like a fresh coat of paint on Nicole yage for you and shine him up and fresh pain he’s 20 he’s 20 like I mean we’re talking Lorie marinan Lori marinan is benefiting from being in Utah but it’s not like he was good in Chicago it’s not like he was good in Cleveland like you didn’t give up anything for Mitchell other than can I be honest can I be honest I I thought I thought you were joking when you said Nicole yovic was still 20 I thought that was like a Jason Tatum is still 19 joke and he in fact is still 20 so that’s sick good good for him turned 20 yeah I mean he’s he’s a good player he started for a playoff team I mean maybe we’re higher on yic in these around these here parts and you you you watch them more so it’s one of the you watch them more one of those things there are people that are high on yich that don’t have a miam heat podcast around the league so it’s um I think yic is a value a valuable piece but to your point Chris like it’s is he a win now piece no not necessarily but if you but if you trade I think if you trade Mitchell you’re probably a little more comfortable like Garland is younger and Moi is younger where even if they are expensive you’re probably more comfortable with a slight step back where you’re like okay we’re the 60 next year we’re still building up towards something where it’s like a half step back even if it’s not the easiest sell to your fan base it’s not super fun it makes more sense logically timeline wise Garland’s 24 MO is 22 yic is 20 there’s another rookie on the Miami Heat who’s 23 years old they all sort of fit that timeline so maybe it’s more of not necessarily win now but we want maybe maybe the Cavs would prefer players with some sort of proven track record in the NBA hey this is an NBA player like nikol yic is an NBA player Hae hak J is an NBA player over a draft pick from the Phoenix Suns that that converts in 2029 like it kind of feels like hey let’s go get some guys right now who could be part of this roster like let’s start let’s start moving forward with this build even if we have to take the step back we’re kind of building into this new Evan Mo Darius Garland window is that am I am I understanding you right and that’s basically what you’re saying here yeah and I and I think too like the cost part of it is is going to matter as well it’s just like we are in this world where like aprons are going to matter it’s like Garland’s Garland was the most expensive player in the Cavs last year moob your rookie Max extension this year Max dreu is making a lot of money if they want to K Goro they have to pay him this Summer Jared Allen I mean he’s probably traded but if they trade him they’re not just dumping his salary they’re going to bring back a player probably making around $20 million or two players making about $20 million like they’re probably going to need some sort of cost adjustment if they trade Mitchell I mean it’s going to have to match in some way shape or form right like there’s going to be one big player coming back so it can’t just be like there when we get to I know we’re going to talk other potential trade partners and maybe debate these there’s like a team that is that is interested got reported as on Tuesday that interests me but there’s a cost like prohibitive kind of problem to it when I think about it well you teased it already we’ll do that after the shout out yes locked on professional here today’s episode is brought to you by eay Motors passion drive and patience the formula for winning championships it’s also what keeps your ride or die alive eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your vehicle and level it up to Peak Performance superchargers roof racks exhaust kits LED headlights and more whether you’re into speed power or 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Rockets yeah so like if you’re trading with Houston and they’re going all in you’re probably saying they’re probably sending you Jaylen green you would think right yeah but Jaylen green is extension eligible this summer if you’re trading for him you’re kind of just paying for him sight unseen without seeing how he fits with Darius scarland and he’s the same rookie class as Moy so he’s extension eligible right now and you’re committing like full board to paying him Garland and M without seeing them play a minutes together does that make any sense like did that doesn’t make any sense to me like it’s incredbly risky from money standpoint what if they it’s such a good point and I had not considered it I guess the other alternative is well you then also trade darus scarland in a separate move and and but to your point now you’re trading two things that you know you might as well just like you might as well just get rid of everybody you might as well just get rid of everybody then it might just be Evan Moy and and the the Rockets you think then Chris then the Cavs would would want the number three pick instead of green or did was the VIS Vision that was green and the number three pick the draft do does anyone do the does anyone want the number three pick it doesn’t really feel like it Houston’s already out there shopping it it sounds like basically yeah I don’t I don’t I don’t think the Cavs are going to Super want that pick I don’t think any yeah I don’t think anyone wants that pick it’s green would be like the thing that it’s like okay like I think the Cavs still like want to win I don’t think I think they took a lot of Pride organizationally this year in saying okay like Les we forget this is the organization that made a point to like get the Magic series in the first round so they had a better the to get a series they knew they could they felt like they had a good chance of winning cowards fair in my opinion um to tank doesn’t matter won the first round they took a lot of pride in advancing not like totally making a fool of themselves in round two didn’t have the exact same experience as last year like they accomplish something more linear linear progress year over year yeah I don’t think they’re going to be like yeah we’re cool with like taking the whole step back here and going like the Utah route or something like that unless and you mentioned like green Jaylen green and Moy were part of the same draft class so obviously the Cav scouted green maybe they’re super high on him and the couldn’t work him out though green green Green did not want to did not want to come to Cleveland because he wanted to go too yeah so there you go um all right so some other offers that are out there that or rumor destinations I should say the Brooklyn Nets we all agree that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense right like there’s not unless they put Mel Bridges on the table which they won’t then there’s nothing really there for you just doesn’t make sense for Mitchell either is the thing I keep thinking about it from like Mitchell’s perspective and like what he’s going to want in this because he’s going to have agency in this we have to remember that like he’s good enough where he’s going to have agency in this why like what how is Brooklyn demonstrably aside from the fact that it is New York but let’s let’s just be honest about it it’s like the New York team that no one cares as much about it’s not it’s like it just it’s just not no one cares the only person West that any of us know that thinks that Donovan Mitchell and the Nets makes sense is is Brenan clean that’s the only person I know that think this is a good idea no one else thinks it’s a good idea uh we all agree that the Lakers don’t make sense we don’t have to spend much time on that no okay uh so David you had a really interesting idea that we were talking about off air um that involved Caleb Martin uh oh do you want to go ahead and PCH that Chris yeah no I mean we were just talking about within the uh the context of our mock offseason and obviously he is a free agent this year and would yes a win now player would would he be of interest to the Cleveland Cavaliers in a sign and trade in some kind of potential pack we were basically discussing the framework of a deal to for Miami to acquire Mitchell without having to give up nicoa yovic without having to give up you know a billion draft picks or whatever they have available to him would would Caleb Martin fit that kind of window of a guy that you could sign maybe to four years 40 million with like a player option in the fourth year is kind of what we were thinking would that benefit Cleveland would they be interested in acquiring him if that greases the wheels a little bit on a Mitchell trade what’s the rest of the deal like what else you like I am I getting can I yes Tyler one hakz Caleb Martin on the signning trade deal and then I think we worked it out with two first draft Capital yeah like whatever is negotiated from there I I think that’s like about what you’re probably getting that makes sense to me like I’m I don’t think I’m like over the moon about that I don’t think your fan base is like heck yeah we got Tyler hero and like I don’t think anyone’s like thrilled about that on the Cleveland side like much more excited about the deal but yeah it makes sense even from a fit perspective like from the roster Cleveland’s roster it would be Garland starting at the point guard you got maxu who could slide down to the two in theory Caleb could start at the three and they could alternate between him and streu both of them switchable obviously in Miami I don’t know I guess would start at the four if you don’t trade Allen he’s got you know you’re slated in him at five already and you’ve got hakz if you can bring back aoro uh you’ve got Tyler and the selling point I think for Tyler is that you know what we’ve got an established six Man of the Year winner and he’s the guy who’s gonna augment a pretty weak bench in Cleveland and now all of a sudden you’re not sacrificing you’re adding depth we’re still competitive Tyler’s a proven score a bucket getter Off the Bench Etc and along with hakz who is going to SL slide into your wing of the fut let’s say Caleb leaves again in three years down the road he exercises that a player option and the fourth year he leaves hawz is already under contract and all of a sudden you can just kind of slide him in there as well so I don’t know it’s it sounds like it’s a good fit from a complimentary perspec in that role or is that well go ahead what do you think about that Chris I I think it makes sense I think if it’s it’s a good middle ground like I I I’m wondering in my head if I’m even if I would rather have yic or hakz but it probably doesn’t matter Tim me that much like I don’t know if if if I’m splitting hairs over that too much I think and the one complication and I should reach out to a cap expert on this is I don’t think that you could do the sign and trade in conjunction with all the other pieces going out so in terms of a salary matching part of this you would have to find ways to match salary in another way I think I have that correct unless Cleveland creates cap space somehow which it doesn’t I don’t think they have cap space right yeah it’d be very it’d be very hard for them to create cap space at some so uh but there’s the other option too is that Caleb marttin Ops in which he has not made that decision we don’t know yet but we don’t think that’s happening wink wink nudge nudge we’re going to and we pay you a year from now so can I ask you can I ask you one thing about this from the Miami side real quick guys course sure does this make any sense for Miami if Jimmy Butler is like hey I want to play for the Sixers yeah okay because I think him and Butler is like kind of like perfect in a lot of ways and I think Don Mitchell and Bam is even more perfect uh and so if if Jimmy Butler leaves I don’t think that they if Jimmy Butler basically forces uh himself out of Miami because they just can’t get on terms on an extension then I think that this I could see the Heat going even fully Allin on do Mitchell because they just don’t want they do not want to take that step back and anything that you get back in return for Jimmy Butler you could then use to perhaps uh improve your own package for Donovan Mitchell and maybe not have to give up you know both haime and and nikol nikovic and tahiro and all these sort of young pieces that you have and you can kind of rejigger the window around bams you want to explore that possibility I mean I know that’s kind of just a basically adjusted trade package but let’s say you do wind up having to to ship Jimmy to Philadelphia for what three first round picks and Paul Reed basically from a Cleveland standpoint then would you be willing to take Tyler herro and more draft capital and not necessarily have another player or n yeah it would be essentially I could it would be Tyler one of the young guys uh and then you would have to throw in like a Thomas Bryant or Orlando Robinson contract to get the salaries right and then um I guess the three Philadelphia picks yeah probably I think I I think I’d almost prefer that in some way because you get the picks could do something with those picks and CS just don’t have any first round picks and that’s at least right like something you could do with and like maybe you want the depth like but there is like the history stru is maybe like one of the few exceptions to this but there is like the track record of heat guys leaving Miami and then being like Oh you’re actually like not good outside of Miami D J junor starting for a western conference yeah shout out to him man shout out to that guy just fck killing it honestly NBA life um uh is there any other teams out there that you’re thinking about that are potential Landing spots the one that’s out there that’s been reported New Orleans Memphis but I keep coming back to the same thing with yeah Donovan Mitchell’s not going to commit long term in either of those places who’s this year’s Milwaukee that can just kind of swoop in there and and and up you it’s kind of Miami isn’t it like Miami kind of feels like Miami’s always involved with every rumored Superstar so I don’t know that I mean to me at least in covering the Lillard trade and hearing every all the Scuttle about it Milwaukee seems like they kind of just came in field at the 11th minute yeah love feels like it’s Orlando doesn’t it that would be a real that would be a real bite in the ass for Heat fans um I I I I mean Mitchell does I think deep down like probably want to play for the Knicks I just don’t I so think you have to mention them I just don’t think that makes any sense for the Knick yeah it doesn’t make any sense doesn’t make sense for him either like I Mitchell and Brunson doesn’t make sense for either of them what about the Spurs we keep trying to like find point guard point guard the Spurs Mak sense for the Spurs make sense for Darius Garland yeah but and again I guess you get back to the point of Donna Mitchell probably doesn’t want to sign long turn in San Antonio yeah whereas Darius Garland has like a bunch of years left on his contract and it’s like sucks dude you’re getting paid a lot of money yeah yeah um any final thoughts on this before we sign off here David uh what would you guys do JB bicker said well it it’s hard to bring back a guy when it’s been rumored that he’s been fired for the last few months I just appreciate the fact that you were like you know you keep him that way Donovan asked out I appreciate that you could have just said that and I would have I would have respected it but I appreciate you didn’t do that I do think it would be really funny if the Cav said you get to pick our next coach and then he was like word that’s sick I’m also like not going to sign here long term so trade me can I can you get Quinn Snyder from Atlanta no oh well tough right right um all right right well thanks to Chris Manning you can check him out over the lockdown Cavaliers also check him out at the just basketball show uh show that I also co-host with uh who the guy that got name dropped earlier Brendan clean um yeah unfortunately but for now thanks for making lock on heat you’re first listen every day hit that subscribe button on YouTube follow us on your podcast app

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Wes Goldberg and David Ramil are joined by Chris Manning to take a look at the Mitchell situation from the Cavs’ perspective.

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8 Comments

  1. LOL these 2 Heat idiots didn't learn anything after making crap up all season saying how great the heat were and how they're fine for the playoffs and a title contender blah blah blah, now back to making god awful trades for the other teams and acting like the heats dog shit they offer are the highest valued assets in the league lmao. These two are such massive homer idiots on every single thing they talk about, its mind blowing

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