Derrick White is MORE IMPACTFUL than Jayson Tatum?! A FIERY DEBATE! | Get Up

Derrick White is MORE IMPACTFUL than Jayson Tatum?! A FIERY DEBATE! | Get Up

we are back on get up as we approach the bottom of the hour we’re going to keep this rolling with a game of sound off with some of the most interesting people saying some of the most interesting things and we start with this it is New York Nicks God guard Josh Hart he was on the pivot podcast with our guy RC and everybody and he was talking about the Celtics and you’re going to hear who he thinks is Boston’s Most impactful player let’s hear it I might put over just like impactful I might put Derek white more impactful than JT look at every main play in the last six minutes of the fourth to overtime every big play he made he’s probably one of the most impactful players because he does just everything on the court and does everything at a very high level okay so I mean this is where we’ve gotten now so look I I suppose I have to take some responsibility for this cuz on this show and on our radio show we’ve done a lot of debating well just how great is Jason Tatum is it Tatum’s team or Brown’s team well I get it we’ve had those conversations and if you want to have an argument over whether or not Jason Tatum is one of the five best players in the world as he was voted to be by being First Team all NBA I think that is a perfectly reasonable conversation to have are we seriously going to have a conversation about whether Derek white is more impactful to the Celtics than Jason Tatum is I mean I love you Josh hard are we seriously having that conversation Where Do We Begin if we were to just put the two of them up there and let all 30 teams decide would you rather have Jason Tatum or Derek different conversation different conversation he he never said who’s the better player imp impactful we’re not going to do this we’re not going to do this doing this listen to me doesn’t make you right the best I have to to keep you guys quiet keep you guys quiet but the best thing to happen for the Celtics is to have this break right the worst thing to happen to Jason Tatum is to have this break because we are now going to spend this time talking about him and his ability to win a championship and what it means and all that stuff how do you want to Define impactful okay so if you took one off the team or the other off the team how do you want to Define impactful I I think Jason Tatum is more impactful than dck white you think so yeah but Derek white is that something you need to give thought to no it was not that that’s a fair point on your well played on your part dere Jason Tatum is more impactful but Derek white is right there though Derek white does everything nitty-gritty for this team he is never out of position defensively he always gets the best defensive matchup and he’s always the guy that’s actually orchestrating the team and is actually putting them in positions to succeed it is really up there as a level of priority he is top three impactful players on this roster making that impact if Jason Tatum’s not on the floor drawing attention all the things that he does does it not then allow Derek white to do the things that he does listen I will say this is that I would call Derek white he’s a glue guy like if you don’t have those type of guys you’re not if you’re you’re not in this position right now the defensive assignments the critical shots that this man is hitting out there on offense particularly at the three-point line like he has been major for the Boston I’m not sitting here disputing that is is he better than Jason tat hell no he’s not better than Jason Tatum but as far as what the way he’s been impacting the game particularly in the in the postseason come on man we got give another so a couple years ago nobody would argue that Drew holiday was more impactful than Giannis right but you remov drew Holiday from that team where are the Milwaukee Bucks well they’re simar I’m saying similar thing with dere when you remove Giannis I I’m not saying he’s more impactful than Jason impact is also based on what’s around you and what you’re allowed to do and I love this is coming from Josh Hart because Josh Hart is impactful and was impactful on the Nick’s success but it’s j Jaylen Brunson and his presence allowed Josh Hart to make the impact he did in other areas can I ask a question did I miss a meeting what did Jason Tatum do to planet Earth to be disrespected in the way he is now regularly disrespecting wait a minute who’s disrespecting Jason we just all agreed that he’s not more imp like that but a credible person just said it on a credible podcast the pivot is a very credible place uh Josh Hart is a very credible person and he just said that Derek White You could argue is more uh more impactful than Jason T impactful J that you just earlier this morning I’ll use your that’s steadfastly insane I if you took Jason Tatum off the Celtics they would have no chance of winning anything if you took D White’s the better player he impacts the game in every single way on every single possession let’s just State this with a record Jason Tatum is the most impactful player for the Boston Celtics right right like because he actually he get J Brown is next he gets double teamed every single night and that’s yes he gets double team every single night and he actually passes the ball and he makes other people better not sure Jaylen Brown makes everybody else better more of a demonstrative score but Jason tat most impact dere Derek white top three the def three imp allows Dereck white than to do other things looking at the go ahead go ahead dwood are we saying like we in here trying to dismiss what Josh Hart is saying here he’s not all wronging it he’s not like he’s not off yes he’s he’s way off let me ask you a question how are you defining impactful if you’re suggesting he does more different things on a momentto moment basis I guess in theory you might want to try and make that argument but the reality is if impactful means they impact their team winning the game I’m not 100% sure that this season Chris perhaps porzingis wasn’t more impactful to the Celtics than Derek white was and certainly Jaylen Brown was and definitely Jason Tatum was I was say and the worst part of this is I love Derek white and I’m sitting here dismissing him as though he’s done nothing he’s been spectacular for that team he is a terrific player they probably would not be where they are without him but they sure as hell wouldn’t be anywhere without Jason Tatum what are we talking about when when the Bulls are why you keep looking at me because I feel like you’re defend not defend was more impact let me ask a question did you watch the Bulls when they were when they were winning championships in the ’90s that ’96 9798 how many many different things did Dennis Rodman do for those teams he deed up the other team’s best player he was a great passer he was a heady player he got every rebound was he more impactful to them winning than Michael Jordan D white doesn’t get every rebound I don’t I don’t think Josh har was really saying that he’s more impactful well he said the words more impct so if he didn’t mean more impactful he probably shouldn’t have said the word more than the word impactful I think what he was talking about are some of the defensive intricacies that Derek white brings to the table and also how he’s floor spaces like I I think if we had Josh here I don’t think Josh would say yeah Derek White’s more important than Jason Tatum I think everybody in the world knows Jason Tatum’s role Josh call us I don’t think call us I need to hear what Josh said after that I need the description when he really breaks it down because look I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion but but maybe this the reason I wanted to do this is because I think it is part of a larger conversation which is that it feels as though there is and I don’t know where it comes from and and maybe you can help me with this and he’s a Duke guy there is this desire I feel like to sort of diminish Jason Tatum I don’t know why I’m not sure what it is there is something about the way he acts something he’s not as the because people don’t like the fact he’s not as demonstrative when we think about great players we like people who are demonstrative why is everybody in love with Anthony Edwards cuzz He’s like I’ll talk trash you this is who I am like oh we need that and Jason isn’t as talkative he’s he he’s a little bit more passive in that relation but he’s more demonstrative with his play on the floor it’s different yeah and and that’s I think something that is we seen a lot of players it depends on how much are you part of the show and how much are you just simply playing the game at a very high level but I still think for Tatum it’s still about winning and the fact that two years ago got to the finals did not play well and and then last year bowing out in the Eastern Conference Finals against a a eighth seated Miami Heat was unacceptable so now it’s staring at him saying hey we’ve put all this belief in what you are as a player you need to now pay it off can he do it this year that’s what we’re waiting for could it also be because it seemed like we’ve seen Jason Tatum Jaylen Brown like together for quite some time and he hasn’t like they haven’t he hasn’t broken through yet off he hasn’t broken through yet I think that’s where to me the quotequote disrespect of Jason tum is coming from cuz everybody’s like when when is it going to happen you guys have been there been together forever it we see it but we don’t believe it yeah well because Tatum of course is in his mid-30s and he better get this done soon oh wait a minute czy oh no he’s not it’s like there’s disrespect out there for a guy that’s been to countless Eastern Conference Finals in the NBA Championship at that young of an age I don’t think people recognize how difficult that is to do it takes every team a while to break through it took Michael Jordan a while to break through yes why I’ve said that this break has been good for the Celtics it’s been terrible for Jason Tatum I mean he wants to get to a game as fast as possible well he can they’re not going to play till next [Music]

On Get Up, Jay Williams, Damien Woody and Alan Hahn join Mike Greenberg to react to Josh Hart’s comments saying Derrick White is “more impactful” than Jayson Tatum because he “does everything at a high level.”

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