BREAKING: Detroit Pistons, Troy Weaver Part Ways– Officially Marking The End Of The “Restore” Era

BREAKING: Detroit Pistons, Troy Weaver Part Ways– Officially Marking The End Of The “Restore” Era

the first Domino has fallen Tran langden is officially the Detroit Pistons president in basketball operations and officially the bigger news here Troy Weaver is officially no longer a part of the Detroit Pistons organization we’re going to talk about all this in today’s episode of the lock on Pistons podcast you are locked on Pistons your daily Detroit Pistons podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day what’s the deal welcome back to another episode of the locked on Pistons podcast per usual I’m your host kahill you can find me over on Twitter at Cahill I want to thank you guys Mak lock on Pistons your first listen of every single day free available on all your podcast platforms if you haven’t already head to the YouTube channel at laon Pistons hit that subscribe button or leave us a five star review and whatever podcast platform you’re listening to this on it’s another great way to support the podcast and this episode is brought to you by prize picks the easiest most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports go to priz picks.com lockon NBA and use code all lowercase lockon NBA for our first of P match up to $100 you hear more about prize picks a little bit later but the biggest news the breaking news Troy Weaver the GM of the Detroit Pistons for the last four years has officially been removed from the organization he there is no speculation there is no you know waiting around it is a official they have parted ways and Troy Weaver is no longer a part of the Detroit Pistons organization at this time at the time they let him go I should say Tran Lan’s uh hiring was not officially made but literally probably like five minutes ago before I started recording they made the official hiring of Tran Lon um and at the time obviously of them doing that Troy was fired or parted ways but fired and Monty remains I think there’s more changes on the way but that is worth noting I guess that they made the the the hiring official and only one of them is gone so just keep that in mind but obviously we’re g let’s just stay on the Troy Weaver thing on on on his time here and the decision to move on from Troy so with with Troy no longer being a part of the Pistons organization I feel comfortable doing this it they it it is not all it is not disrespectful or or out of bounds to say that Troy Weaver took over the Detroit Pistons with not many expectations at the time a team that was entering a rebuild with quite literally I’d say only only way should have been up and somehow he fumbled it so so badly that they got worse and they suffered the worst season in franchise history not in one of the years when they were purposely losing not in one of those years not in one of the years when they were purposely trying to lose and get a top pick the year they did it was the year they were to they told everyone was the year they were trying to be better and that’s when they fell back on their faces that’s when they had the worst season in franchise history Troy Weaver from the get-go from the get-go and a lot of people a lot of people were pointing this kind of stuff out from the get-go but didn’t want to go full-blown at Troy at the time but now that he’s gone I mean if you go read James Edwards and Shan’s article that broke the news they broke it down pretty well in that article as well but Troy had red flags from the very beginning from the very beginning when he first took over as the GM of the Detroit Pistons the first moves he made involved trading for contracts and then extending them giving up more value than needed to and the excuse at the time at the time was well it’s not really going to hurt them right now and he’s going to get in his guys he’s doing what he needs to do to get what he wants right now and it has minimal cause like yeah maybe he’s losing a little value with that but who cares you know whatever and the point that a lot of people made was the more you do take a little bit and a little bit and a little bit and a little bit value less value on stuff and you’re taking a little bit and a little bit hits if you keep doing it over and over and over and over and over again eventually it becomes a big hit eventually it becomes a big deal and that’s exactly what happened with the Pistons the asset management by Troy Weaver in this front office was nothing short or of horrific and it’s mentioned in Shams and James Edwards the third’s article as well with the athletic the asset management was terrible it’s something that I have complained about on this podcast for years ever since I took over this podcast the asset management has been horrific moving guys after they’re past their Peak value holding on to them too long not getting the most value in return because you want to get your guy uh like it the asset management was horrific and something that I loved I absolutely loved seeing the athletic point out in the breaking news they’re the ones who broke it the news that Troy was moving on what I absolutely loved reading in that in that piece is something that I’ve said in this podcast I think I’ve said it since the season ended when we start reflecting on Troy’s time with the Pistons Troy’s first mistake from the get-go was was deciding not to use the cap space which by the way I need everyone to understand this because this is something I’ve I’ve had quite a few listeners mentioned to me and it’s it’s a it’s a it’s a false uh belief that Pistons F some Pistons fans have in the community the Pistons were not in a bad cap situation when Troy took over literally the reason why Troy took over the job the reason why they were able to get Troy is because they made sure to free up cap space the deadline beforehand so a GM or a potential GM would have interest in taking over the team they traded Drummond’s contracts and got off the books for simply expiring in in what was it John Henson and Brandon Knights contracts they were those were just straight up expiring they got that contract off the books Reggie Jackson was off the books the only contract that was really on the books like that was Blakes they had cap space which is why they were able in that immediate off season to sign Jeremy Grant to sign Mason plumbley to sign you know even lower level guys but like Josh Jackson and and guys like that because the Pistons made sure to clear the cap space cap books as best as they could so the next GM that came in could make stuff happen and what most GMS would do 99.9 99% of James would do in a situation like that would take on bad contracts to stack your assets for the future and Troy did not do that instead he used the cap space to spend on players for the immediate impact Mason plumbley was then moved for was moved with the second round pick for Kelly oin he was then uh I’m I’m drawing a blank uh why why am I uh Jeremy Grant my good goodness I don’t know why I just Dre a blink Jeremy Grant I know for a fact had better offers at the back end of his first year I know for a fact he had offer good offers in the offseason that year and they held on to Jeremy Grant until they eventually moved him for a 2025 first- round pick from the Milwaukee Bucks they had better deals than that and every single time Troy messed up and did a deal like that the The Comeback was from optimistic people was well he ended up being able to get his guy Jaylen durren out of those picks that’s not the point the asset management and the decisions with assets from the get-go doomed the Pistons it it just doomed them because now you sit in 2024 when you have all these other rebuilding teams hitting their Prime they’re hitting their Prime of the rebuild with assets with picks to make moves the Houston Rockets for example but there’s many teams OKC San Antonio all these teams have assets but let’s just use Houston for for example because they’re the ones I’m most knowledgeable about they have sangon they have amen Thompson they have all kinds of young players and they can keep their main guy in opun zanon they can keep all the aam Whitmore a lot of their tar Ean all their young guys and if they want to go out now and get someone to add to that core to really take that next step now they can package a Jaylen green with the 5,000 picks they got from the Brooklyn Nets when they made their rebuild when they started their rebuild to go get somebody and I know the come back to that will be what they had James Harden get rid of that is not the only way you require assets yes Troy Weaver did take over a team that didn’t have tradeable assets at that time but that is not how you acquire assets that’s not the only way you watch these teams over and over and over again the H the OKC Thunder have did it all the time take on bad contracts to get picks to get assets so then in a few years you can use those assets to improve your team once you have used your own assets to add a young core and instead the Pistons did the exact opposite and it doomed them from the get-go not only did they doomed themselves from the get-go the the the the the the uh the Ace in the ho that everyone had for Troy the Ace in the hold that he had the biggest excuse the the the biggest thing that he had to the thing he had to hold his cap on that could have bailed him out which we were told was what he had to had to hope would bail him out was his talent evaluation none of this is going to matter if if he hits on his picks which okay that’s fair but one no GM is going to hit a thousand on on their draft picks it’s just not GNA happen that’s one and two Troy did not do a good job with the talent evaluations with the picks the Pistons had three first round picks in the 2020 draft in the in that draft you had the Tyreek smch you had a Desmond Bane there’s all on it on and on in that first round the pisses ended up with Killian Hayes who yes everyone knows that you know I believed in Killian becoming a backup point guard this past year but Killian Hayes was a massive Miss he was waved this past year and you had tyres hurn right after him missed there sadique Bay you took him instead of Desmond Bay on some of the other guys and you traded sadique Bay instead of for multiple second round picks you went again and got your guy and James wisman and he’s been let me not turn this into a James but he’s not been good he’s not going to return to the team next year either so just just over Isaiah Stewart came out of that draft but to get Isaiah Stewart you gave up a future first that’s still locked up like that was the first draft that he did two misses and getting a guy who I think is a back of five got better but you did it in by doing that you had to go a future first that is still locked up following draft you get Kade you get gifted in number one pick that’s the only one you get gifted the number one overall pick where Kad is was the clear-cut number one basically everyone knew was won second round missed Sabin Lee missed uh uh you second round picks on for on Deus Aus he doesn’t even really come over use a second round pick on Gabriel proa he doesn’t even come over Jane Ivy is question marks about Jaylen Duran there’s question marks about heck I’m high on assar Thompson but there’s question marks on assar too so like you you took L’s in Asset Management you didn’t stack the treasure chest of assets you didn’t take on bad contract for it you didn’t build a competitive team and in the meanwhile you’re the thing everyone told you said or everything that you told people and people were told that would bail everyone out despite all that bad stuff you did all the other red flags didn’t matter because you were a great drafter and he wasn’t a great drafter for the Pistons it’s very we are whether you agree with it or not whether you feel like they should or not everyone has to be realistic and understand that there is a future where the only pick that the only picks that are on this team next that Troy made is Kad and AAR that is a realistic future now whether they should or should not do is not what I’m saying the fact that that’s a realistic future for next year that Troy spent four years making picks with this team and as soon as a team moves on to another regime that it’s possible that only two picks remain maybe more but it’s possible only two remain and every facet of Troy’s time with the Detroit Pistons he failed in he failed in they had the worst season in franchises history terrible Asset Management didn’t build a team that no one knows what the Identity or vision of this team is doesn’t make any sense didn’t stack assets and you didn’t even draft well which is what your your big thing was supposed to be I like I don’t know there’s no other way to categorize Troy Weaver’s time with the Detroit Pistons other than an utter failure at quite literally every aspect of building a team at every as aspect of building a team and that’s not emotion that’s not bias that’s not you know anything else that’s fact this is all facts that I just brought to the table it’s not unfair this is all real so I can’t sit here and say I feel bad that Troy lost his job I can’t sit here and say that I didn’t see it coming I can’t sit here and say that it was shocking it it deserved to happen it should have happened during the season but there you go Troy’s gone Troy’s gone New Era and I think most Pistons fans would say to that thank go when we come back we’ll continue talking about this and some other things to watch for we’ll talk about that when we come back prize picks is America’s number one fantasy sports staff with more than 3 million members it is the easiest most exciting way to get in on the action while you watch your favorite sports and players you just pick more or less on two or more player stats and watch the winnings roll in get in on the playoff action the NBA finals are right around the corner you can win up to 100 times your money on priz picks as you in the world best players take the game to a new 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haven’t already head to the YouTube Channel at lockon Pistons hit that subscribe button or leave us a five star review or whatever pcast platform listening to this on that’s another great way to support the podcast man it’s really hot in here man every time I hit summer you guys know this at listen it gets really hot in here I need to take a drink like my goodness I I hate summertime in this place I live at it’s it it just anyways um back to Troy Weaver and the Detroit Pistons so um some things that that uh also happened with Troy the Detroit Pistons offered him a chance to stay on as a scout in a very very very reduced role that’s something that I had heard about a few weeks ago um and Troy denied it Troy basically said no I’m I’m not taking that and he just you know he’d rather just be fired basically um so Troy had a chance to stay on his a scout I personally don’t understand why the Pistons would want to keep him on as a scout because he didn’t do a very good job of Talan evaluation with with the Pistons over his four years so I don’t know why they would want to keep him there but is what it is either way he didn’t end up taking it uh I want to keep going I’m not gonna lie to you guys I kind of really want to keep talking about uh like what went wrong during during these last four years because this is basically I think this is probably the last time we’re going to talk about Troy Weaver right like I don’t think we’re g you know we’re gonna mention him we’re g talk about him anymore um I mean I guess I should mention this first before we keep going on with Troy though um the athletic did also post an article talking about who will be who’s rumored to be Trent langan’s number two which is basically the GM that replaces Troy Weaver now I’ve had a few people ask this what’s the difference between a p basketball operation president of basketball operations and a general manager um so if you remember Stan Van Gundy he was the president of basketball operations with the Detroit Pistons his GM was Jeff power and basically how it goes is Stan has final basketball say or did but president basketball operations if you remember back to that time uh they have the final say with everything that involves basketball-wise now the GM helps them uh they help you know phone calls to for trades uh seek out value um you know they basically they just helped them do their jobs but the president Bas operations still makes the final decision he makes the calls he makes the shots he or takes the shots like or calls the shots why take the shots we’re not playing basketball but calls the shots so I know there’s people saying oh God here you go I saw some P’s fans like too many cooks in the kitchen no this is normal this is not you know crazy thing this is normal um it’s just a second guy to help him out a guy that he wants to bring on that you know helps him do some you know his duties but he still is like the guy at the top of the chain he everything’s going to him everything that that gets decided everything that gets done it’s it’s going to be the president of basketball operations he just has a guy a second in command that’s going to help him out do his job basically that’s that’s what it is so I I get I understand why Pistons fans who dealt with the last four years are like oh my God this mean more Cooks in the kitchen no this is normal don’t freak out it’s it’s normal um some of the names that they mentioned that could be um the GM that that trasan take brings over uh Michael Blackstone from the New Orleans Republicans he’s an executive over there um Matt Lloyd he’s currently the senior vice president of basketball operations for the Timberwolves um Travis slank I believe I said his name right the vice president of player Personnel for the Washington Wizards um he was also with the Atlanta Hawks for a few years in uh at the back end of the 2010s on Brock air the New York Knicks vice president basketball uh and strategic planning and then also this name this is going to you know business fans that are a little bit older might freak out over this but taan Prince I don’t know if people don’t know know this or not but taan has been working in the front office for quite a bit now um he was promoted to memphis’s Executive Vice President of basketball operation 2019 he’s been in the uh Grizzly organization since 2017 so he’s actually he’s been working behind the scenes to grow and become eventually I’m assuming his end goal is to be like a a GM or uh a president BK operations eventually so he’s been working um so those are the names to keep an eye on as of right now or who he’s going to bring over it sounds like from reports that the favorite right now is Michael Blackstone um from uh from the New Orleans Pelicans obviously uh Tran just worked with him it’s coming over from New Orleans as well I saw a few New Orleans guys tweeting and reporting that you know if Blackstone leaves they pre that that New Orleans sounds like they’re sizing themselves up for Blackstone to leave and you know have some guys ready to replace him so it sounds like Blackstone is the favorite however is not officially signed hired it’s not official anything yet but it seems like he is the the uh uh the leader in the clubhouse right now so that’s where we’re at with that um as soon as we get any news with that obviously I’m going to drop a podcast as soon as we get any news with this this is what we’ve been waiting for like this this little awkward time this like week from where Tran was reportedly hired not even officially but reportedly hired and nothing being said about Troy or Monty and still not getting any official hiring like this week was like kind of awkward it was just like everyone’s just sitting waiting for something to happen um so yeah as soon as anything else that keeps coming out with this obviously you guys know I’m going to be out there instantly with you guys trying to trying to get you guys an episode and some content breaking down everything um but I mean go back to Troy for just a moment um because like I said earlier this is probably the last time we’re gonna talk about Troy’s time with the Pistons um or really and maybe he might get brought up but um last time I really want like dive into his time with the Pistons I there’s a part of me actually not even a part of me basically like entirety of me that seriously wonders what would have happened if the Pistons did not get the number one overall pick in in in 2021 now I know there’s gonna be people that say well nothing did happen they got it and nothing’s happened which is fair which is fair but I can assure you that Cade is one of the main reasons why people were interested in this job at all like Cade is is is the big selling point whether you are a fan of him or not I can tell you for a fact with what I know Cade is obviously the big selling point like that he is the you know their what’s bringing brings anyone interest any of interest to Detroit so I I wonder how just how bad this could have got if they did not get number one like what if they got fourth in that draft what if they got fifth like what would have happened if they didn’t end up with Cadence that end up like jayen sugs like what what happens like how bad does this actually get because Troy I honestly it it’s it’s remarkable and shocking to go and look back everything that’s happened with Troy and this team over the last four years because I don’t think anyone can really pick like his most Shining Moment I think is this trade for Simone I think that was the best move he’s made but outside of that there’s not many bright spots at all to this tenure I I I can’t I don’t think you can say they use free agency well not only I mentioned this earlier that he didn’t hit on his picks but what I didn’t mention was or let me I say he didn’t hit on any of his piics but he didn’t not nearly enough to save his job for that to be betting on what for to be what he’s betting on like I said earlier it’s very possible it’s it’s a it’s a chance that only two guys are remaining next year from his from his draft class but what I didn’t mention was the Second Chance guys he took on like the second contract dudes the guys he identified as okay didn’t work out with this team think they can work out here we can get the most out of them and teams do that and it works out sometimes it doesn’t work out sometimes it does sometimes you find that diamond in the rough you develop them correctly and now they hit their potential like that happens and taking on the second contract guy taking a chance like that happened that is very routine teams do that and you know like I said some hit some don’t every single one the Pistons did missed every single one like quite literally every single one Frank Jackson miss Josh Jackson Miss jalir okaf for Miss James wisman Miss um Kevin Knox Miss there’s not there wasn’t one second chance dude that they hit on so Asset Management terrible didn’t stack up the assets terrible didn’t make good free agen signing terrible didn’t build a good team at any point terrible this past offseason put of the offseason and didn’t address anything which led to the worst season franchise history terrible didn’t hit on second round picks any second round picks any quite literally none missed then he doesn’t hit on any second chance contract guys second contract dudes missing all of them Miss terrible like I’m not joking when I say you could probably go through quite literally every aspect of the last four years and you could probably say every single one every single aspect was a failure it’s honestly remarkable like I kid you not I’m not joking it is remarkable how badly these four years went like like I said at there was a point over these three years where it was like you can only go up who knows how much higher you go maybe it doesn’t go much higher like that was possible that okay maybe this rebuild doesn’t go well but at least it would go up to a certain point but it got worse it it just kept getting worse it it it’s like I I look I’m happy that the piss has made Moves they should have made the move during the off during the season in my opinion by get waiting out of respect for people I you know I get it but like like I I think most Pistons fans are very happy today I don’t see how anyone could blame them with how badly the last four years went or the Detroit Pistons so I I think that’s it man I I think that’s the last we’re going to mention Troy that the Troy Weaver era is done the restore era finished and they didn’t restore anything he destroyed everything so that’s how it wraps up that’s how it wraps up when we come back that’s one Domino Troy’s gone someone Still Remains is he gonna be back next year come about Monty William we’ll talk about that when we come back so want thank you guys for making lock on piston it’s your first listen of every single day freom on podcast platforms hit that subscribe on the YouTube channel leave us the five stareview whatever podcast platform you’re listening to us on that’s another great way to support the podcast so as of my recording right now because it’s possible that some stuff goes down as soon as I publish this because this usually how it works like this I feel like this happens damn near every time I record a podcast like this breaking down some news like something I’m recording either happens while I’m recording or right after I publish it all of a sudden some other stuff happens you know that’s just my luck um you guys remember during the season I I forget what it was what I forget what it was but I quite literally had like waited until like 10 o’clock to record the podcast and then I recorded and then while we were it record was going it happened like I forget what it was long-term listen I got I gotta hear you guys remember what it was but I remember that moment I was I was Furious but like that’s usually how it goes anyways um at this time Mont is still the head coach of the Detroit Pistons now how how can I say this want to be careful with what I say if I was a betting man I would probably bet that Monty is not returning I’d say the logic matches with if Tran comes in I mean I feel like anybody who comes in they would want to have their own guys they would like to go start a new regime start a new rebuild with their guys especially one when you’re taking over a situation that just witnessed the worst season in franchise history I I I feel the logic points to just logic points to okay I want to have my own guys get rid of everything that was associated with that we’re gonna bring in our dudes and we’re gonna turn this around like that is what like the logical thing says so that’s one two actually I’m going leave it at that that’s all I’m going to leave it at for right now now now is there a chance that he returns yes there is a chance that he returns I’m not ruling it out but I would bet if I had to put money on it I would bet that he’s not returning um I we’ll leave it at that that’s what I would say I’m gonna I’m gonna bet that he probably wouldn’t return that’s it um but I mean we’ll see what happens I mean I think it’s incredibly interesting now this part I like I find this part really interesting that the Pistons did not make Tran’s uh hiring official until today like an hour ago they waited until it seems like they waited until Weaver was officially gone before they announced it they didn’t do that with Monty they announced it with Monty still on the team and nothing said about that in those articles breaking it down or or breaking news the athletic art breaking that uh Troy was gone nothing was mentioned about Monty in the in the in the press release about the Pistons officially hiring Tran nothing was said about Monty not a single thing so I feel like it feels like publicly it feels like things are being very quiet and they are avoiding if publicly avoiding any mention of Monty right now to me from an outside perspective just looking if I was a fan looking at this I would say that seems pretty interesting and that seems the point to them being undecided at the very least and that I mean that’s how I’d read into it the fact that Monty’s just not being mentioned at all right now like it’s just completely not me like it’s he not mentioned in the least bit that would point if I was a fan looking at I would look at it and say seems like they’re at the very least undecided right now what’s going on and the future is very murky at the very least murky for Monty um so that that’s I think that’s interesting I I think it’s interesting so um we’ll see I think I mean I I’d have to assume you’d get news on whether Monty’s coming back or not within the week like because Tran in in the press release mentioned that he wants to get started quickly on trying to you know build this team this off season and get started with his plan like you need to know who your head coaches so I figured I I’m I’m almost 100 I’m at like 99 0.999% sure telling you guys that the next move of business is deciding whether Monty’s going to be the the coach next year so I I’d have to assume that would be something if if they’re telling the truth that they want to get started quickly like I’d have to assume by the end of the week they would have to you know come to that decision with Monty so um and also you know you got people interviewing for coaching jobs right now you got the Lakers search going on do they want to lose a PO maybe there’s a guy out there that they like maybe there’s a guy out there that they like that potentially could be gone if you wait too long like that that’s something that comes up too so I think we’ll get a decision uh whether it’s he stays or gone um with I I mean I’d have to assume pretty quickly like at this point now so we’ll see what happens though let me know in the comments section down below how you guys feel think this is a good move should Monty return should we be fired let me know how you guys feel um that’s all I’ve got for you guys today thank you guys for making lock down Pistons your first listen of every single day green podcast platforms hit that subscribe button to the YouTube channel leave us a five star review whatever past platform listening to this on and until next time I’ll see you guys later stay safe out there till next time peace out

In breaking news, the Detroit Pistons have parted ways with former General Manager Troy Weaver; marking the end of the “Restore” era and the first move of the Trajan Langdon era.

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