Crunch Time Show | Friday, May 31st, 2024
[Music] [Music] [Music] welcome everybody to crunch time with Jeff Boer Lucas and gentry it is Friday May 31st Friday baby Feel Good Friday Feel Good Friday you know football Friday in this case it you maybe a Troy Weaver a little bit of Troy Weaver Friday the burial the burial of Troy Troy Weaver was fired today Trent langden said nope let that man going to the weekend unemploy we’re trying to win yeah and we’re going to talk about it today great to have a great day it’s a great day to have a great Friday sorry Jeff yeah no you’re absolutely right I mean Cory Woods is joining the show he’ll be helping us break that down he covers the Detroit Pistons and the Detroit Lions forlife.com so can’t wait for his perspective he’ll be joining us halfway through the first hour but fellas we got a lot to get into today Tim 20’s takeaways from OTAs we got some footage on social media from uh OTAs per the Detroit Lion so that’s always awesome we get an inside look at what’s going on and also real 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guys and the people so um it’s it’s always a blast here making the best out of the off season and of course with the offseason comes some breaking news and the Detroit Pistons have decided to say h adios to Troy Weaver Jeff’s hurt finally baby Jeff’s hurt and his boy’s gone maybe a year a year ago uh Jeff he would have he would have been hurting but uh we all go through personal growth personal development uh maturation as some would say all right I think there’s there’s a process with that and I I think you know I’m not blind to the fact of Troy Weaver has botch trades uh Missing on draft picks and on top of that roster construction just being absolutely just just just disgusting you know he’s hit on picks of course I mean Kade is a great player I was well again I I give Brad like Brad holes drafting pan I’m not gonna say well anybody would have took pan he fell in your hands like I I try to give him credit for that you know what I mean so he didn’t mess it up he took Kate okay so that’s that’s a great pick um I me he was the number one clear number one overall pick like no one well I don’t want no I don’t he wasn’t but I don’t want to get in this debate you know the best part about this Jeff is we could do this now because I did put a uh no no Troy Weaver and pistons talk until Troy Weaver was fired now we could talk Pistons finally again because that was the only requirement that I had uh well he is gone and like I was saying uh you know Kate Cunningham Jay iy like some of the players you do like overall like his job as a general manager was just absolutely disappointing it was bad and he deserved a go I’ve said it multiple times it should be the first move that trer Lon makes his firing TR Weaver and he did so so I’m happy it’s a it’s a hell of a way to make a statement as as the new president of basketball operations it’s it’s a way to be like hey I’m here you know see you later Troy Weaver I this is my opinion and I want I want your guys’ thoughts and you can give your thoughts on Troy rer but also this this is a two-parter Monty Williams if he was going to fire Monty and my opinion he would have fired him today with Troy Weaver I think he would have been you know adios to both of you which again if you’re a new president of basketb operations and you want to hire your own guys anybody in any type of leadership role for that that you know is a part of a failing company or a fa failing organization at this moment in time yeah you want to bring in guys from the outside bring in your own guys so I I understand that completely but Monty Williams has not been fired yet and a part of me believes he will be here for probably another year I think the next year uh I don’t think or two but let’s just go year will be that that process of okay Monte we’re GNA get a better roster around you and the pressure is on you to see what you can do with it that’s my takeaway but yeah Troy Weaver’s gone us it’s a great day it’s the first step of a very very long process it’s going to be a little bit but you think it feels like what all it feels like to me it’s like the the eighth rebuild since um Tom gor has been the owner of the Pistons so it’s just like another reset another restart obviously without the you know changing the head coach and all that this is this is if if he langon would have came in and he doesn’t make this move to fire Troy Weaver and he would have came in and said no we’ll evaluate this a little bit we’ll maybe maybe Troy can stay maybe maybe Monte I would have been so mad if Troy Weaver was still on this staff if he was a part of the organization this had to have been done today and the fact that today was his essentially like what today was like his first initial day his first initial week instantly he goes nope we’re moving on and he’s going to bring his own guys in it sounds like I’ve already seen rumors of different front office people coming in um from actually New Orleans uh potentially different Executives coming in so he’s coming in he’s like hey we’re changing this thing right now not going to let we’re not going to sit here and wait we’re not going to see what Troy has we’re not going to see what this person’s about no this has been an experiment with Troy Weaver fellas that has been the worst not just like in the NBA today probably of all time Troy Weaver I just went looked at his record Bobcats no it’s worse than that like he never he’s been the GM for Four Seasons never won more than 23 games he started off with 20 23 and he’s gotten worse 17 and 14 so it is only up from here for langon like it is literally he can’t do much worse he has taken over one of the worst franchises in sports history right now it can only go up from here I’m pumped that he did this I’m I want to know I think the biggest question is fellas does Tom Gores let legden go out there and do whatever he wants or is he GNA still have all these different hey you need to do this I want you to do this it it’s going to depend on this and I’m going to sit here and control some of the basketball operations still or is it going to say hey I don’t care what you do this is your team now this is your organization go run it and win us a championship in the next 10 years go figure something out to get the job done and Jeff I’m with you too on the Monty thing I think Monty stays stays in Detroit for another year at least you have to see what you have in Monte I I’m I’m one of those guys to where I do understand there were situations and things wrong that that Monty did this year but he was never set up for success in the first place and yeah he’s the one that signed the contract to come and he decided to come never was set up for Success from the start he didn’t have a roster to win he didn’t have a roster to do anything he was trying different rot trying everything he could we’ve seen Monty Williams in Phoenix take what what was it 18 19 win team and took them to the NBA Finals within three or four seasons so it’s not that Monty can’t do it it’s that he needs a competent boss a competent front office to be able to go out there and do it so hopefully that’s the change that’s needed and and hopefully there’s just a little bit of like a little bit of a spark next year and the Pistons can get like honestly just get to 25 games get get over 23 in year One Beat Troy Weaver’s record that he had in Four Seasons beat that this year um with langon and I’ll be happy with that I I to to that point you just kind of made about um too many cooks in the kitchen which is which is something that you know I’ve spoke about before uh with with people uh like Kool-Aid and and um Shawn Murphy and we’ve had that because that that’s been just reportings that there’s more than one cook in the kitchen and to your point Boer like yeah Tran langon it seems seems like he is making all like he is excuse me he has control to make uh those types of decisions but I am curious even if they do bring another general manager I don’t think it’s as much as Tom interfering and making decisions as he allows others to to make decisions which he needs to be like okay this is Tran langan’s ball Club he’s making he’s making decisions uh he could fire the janitor if he wants to I don’t give a [ __ ] all basketball related decisions are through that guy and I’m just here chilling that’s how it should be it’s essentially it it’s who has final word with all these decisions who has final word when it comes to Monte who has final you know the final word when it comes to the general manager and and making trades and drafting who’s going to be one making those decisions instead of having people over top of you and and you have like you said all these Cooks in the kitchen all these people in your ear you should do this you should do this do this this this all that needs to go it’s legden and it’s whoever the new GM is those are the only two guys who who should be having these conversations going forward so I’m interested to see who they bring in as a GM that that’s going to be one of the more interesting things I’m I want to know who who that is what’s what’s welcome in Gentry all right we got Gentry in here as well uh what up BMG how you doing Gentry how are you all right BMG you got your Christmas wish uh TR is no longer uh the Pistons general manager it’s a great day uh but what what are your thoughts on him and also real quick guys I got to mention this it was also reported I think in the athletic I could be wrong and don’t quote me on that but I’m pretty sure it was James Edwards but it was reported that he was offered a kind of a demotion like he he could be in The Scouting Department he was like nah [ __ ] that and he and he just blew up the Deuces and left so what do you make of him being fired and maybe that report is as well well I said the other day that that shouldn’t happen if you’re going to get him out he should be totally out of the building and I’m happy obviously that he got fired and whatnot um I wonder if there’s any more moves I don’t know if you brought up if they are going to get rid of Monty or whatnot I think Monty should still get another season but this needed to happen Troy Weaver has been awful you can’t go through stretches like he went through as a general manager so ultimately this was gonna happen and it it needed to happen and thank God it did it feels like the Pistons got baptized a little bit it feels like you know that something had to happen there had to be a change an internal change that really took over everything Jeff smacking over there yeah he popped up on the screen he had no clue he was on camera he had no clue it’s it’s just the day that the Pistons needed I’m happy to see it it can get people like me a little bit more interested in the Pistons I I think one of the more interesting questions too and and I want to hear like what a lot of people think about this all the you know people who who cover the Pistons and obviously core is going to be on I’m actually really interested to see kind of where this goes with the roster going forward now because there are these conversations the last couple weeks when the season ended like are you going going to be willing to keep all of these core players where do you think with Jaylen dur and umur Thompson J um jayen Ivy and these guys like are they going to stay on the roster I’m really interested to see kind of what that how how they go about that going forward now like because really when they make these moves you’re going to start to see a little bit about how people on the outside of the Detroit P Pistons organization feel about some of these players because they’ll be willing like he’ll be willing to move on from some of these C these as Adam put core players he’s going to be able to move on from them very very quick I feel like and and we might see a brand new roster next year yeah well yeah I don’t even wna everyone put one player we could agree with that okay to say you have no you don’t have a Anthony Edwards a Luca donic absolutely I agree with that but like how do to me a core player do you have some good players uh yeah well to me have we have one true good player I know that’s that’s subjective I still I I think Kade Cunningham’s a good player he is and to me it to trade someone like that without really maximizing the roster and seeing what he can do with better players is just kind of unfair you’re basically starting from Ground Zero which you know some may say we’ll do that okay we’ll trade Kate Cunningham if you don’t think Kate is a true uh you know core player what are you getting for him exactly like that’s where I’m confused if you think he’s a a foundational player and you want to trade him fair because then maybe another team will look at him like that but he’s like ah trade Kade he’s worth nothing okay then who’s get what who what team what are you getting for even though even if I said okay I’ll listen to that but no don’t trade Kate no I’m okay there there’s gonna be go this might be a guarantee and I’ll throw it out there 70% of the current roster will not be on this basketball team come the first week maybe not 70 but half of this roster gone moved down traded they’re going to rebuild this whole thing this thing’s going to get blown up here and and I and I think all these core players you’re going to see a two out of the four of them at least minimum traded and I I do Jeff I am with you a little bit yeah maybe Kade can’t be your number one maybe he can’t be your Anthony Edwards or Luka donic but that doesn’t mean he can’t be your number two on a really good uh you know team that can go to the NBA finals like in his career I believe he can do that so it’s like you do have to keep some of these guys around it’s not going to be all of them though and you’re not going to have the same roster going into the next year L langon will go in there and he will he will wipe out half of this roster I can almost guarantee and if he doesn’t then we’re back in that same cycle boys welcome to be in a Detroit business man for a 17th straight year if he doesn’t trade at least two of those Ivy uh Stewart durren assar then I think it’s going to be a failure of an off season you need to flip the roster some way I think Ivy and Stu would be the first two guys that I look to move but you need to at least move two out of those those four for sure yeah well and to jre’s point like if you’re trying to acquire a proven player he’s you’re right you know you’re gonna have to trade away someone uh or some maybe some people uh meaning more than one so I don’t it depends maybe it’s Brandon Ingram maybe it’s someone else I I hope there will be some sort of deal done I you know I maybe they just stay put and take a guy at and spend money and call it an offseason like that would be to me it’s like okay here we go you know you didn’t really make it a big splash move but again Zack lavine’s available could I interest you I mean no dude which way do you guys want the Pistons to go though because because in any sport there’s two ways for a rebuild it’s tear it down and kind of restart and build something from the bottom up or it’s start spending money and it’s just keep the guys you have and bring other guys and spend some money to bring in with them like the Rockets did last year like there’s two different ways to do it and like which way do you want this new regime to do it I would rather I I don’t know I guess I I’m interested I want to go back and see how it feels like they did in in in New Orleans with lag is it lagden langen Langan Trent Lang I don’t know if there’s an end in there langon I’m interested because they essentially they did did build through the draft over there in New Orleans so is he gonna try and say Hey I want to get my own guys in here because that’s isn’t that not what Troy did like he he said all right we’re going to build through the draft and I’m gonna get my guys and how did that work he did a great job drafting didn’t he draft outside of Kate Cunningham so that worked out really well I mean yeah I mean Ivy I I like ivy too he’s that was that was another one where I think a lot of us probably all would have picked Ivy 90% of the people yeah yeah 100% you you trying to like say that like I’m just it’s just like the when people hold their heads on this Troy Weaver he he he hit on Kade Cunningham and Jane Navy but it’s just like dude like those were the guys that fell right in your lap and you could say the P thing but like the Kade Cunningham thing dude he was the number one overall pick there was no question anyone behind him was going to go above him that was the number one overall pick when they won the lottery when they won the lottery people were start make Kade Cunningham jerseys to the Detroit Pistons that’s a fact Troy Weaver wasn’t like oh let me think about these guys behind no it was Kate Cunningham and then when jayen ay was there it was it was either what’s his I’m not giv that one I’m not giving you that one who that’s not the right take and I and usually I’m with you usually like for for the cap thing like okay we’re nitpicking fine you could say it was consensus I’m not going to nitpick you was not I was fighting for Shaden sharp like I was a Shad and sharp guy but everyone knew it was gonna be J iy what everyone knew who he was gonna pick no dude we okay so while we at our former employer there was plenty of debates on who they should take like I don’t know what I I get I think you’re running with the Cade thing like Kade I’m with you okay number one pick but like Ivy absolutely not you’re picking at Benedict Maan Mike’s Mike wanted bened what are we talking about all right yeah maybe you got me there the Benedict thing sh easy to your point got me they got me f you know again I’m not gonna I hate I don’t want to you can say j i was the easy pick because he had ties to Detroit and whatnot it was kind of the safer pick but I don’t like there still was conversations about who they should pick and maybe if ke Keegan Murray fell and whatnot oh ke yeah yeah so that was wonder where I thought it was going to be Keegan Murray or Jaye iy I was I think I was on the boat with you though Jeff the Shane and sharp thing but it just felt like it was the easy pick let’s just go Ivy that was all the projections were if Ivy’s are at five the Pistons are gonna do that and then I’m just interested too because like if you think about it too guys and Jeff we we could take a trip down memory lane as well do you remember the meu and I don’t know if jentry was in this argument or classy was um back in the day but do you remember the argument we had in that first draft class with Killian and all those first round he had three first round draft picks how did those hit like looking back at it it was just like oh the sadique bay thing the um the Isaiah Stewart thing like dude you have three first round picks you have to hit on one of them and you didn’t really get any big time player out of any of them and remember we went to battle on that and then eventually like you start looking at you’re like yeah like it’s hard to hit on a first round pick in the NBA but when you have three of them and you don’t even get one starter like legit dude out of it that’s a problem so hopefully langon can figure figure that one out and yeah yeah I I think missing on Tyrese Halton was like the biggest uh that was the first Domino right there that was a big Domino cuz that changes a lot of things like Killian to have your first pick be kilan Hayes oh my God tough very very tough I’m looking at the spot right now I’m looking at the spot my bed is over there right there I was sitting at the edge of my bed watching that draft and and and the Pistons came up I text my cousin who’s in over here there was over there and I text and said Tyrese hurn that’s the pick the Detroit Pistons pick is in it’s Killian Hayes the rest is history it it was one of the worst one of the worst misses of all time oh my gosh I think it’s time to burn no honestly it was such an easy pick dude should should have just pick T what number is that what you talking about the Jersey what number he’s denied these rumors pull up the Jersey no this this is uh Blake Griffin I don’t believe I don’t believe I Freddy stand up anybody wna anybody want to buy this I I’ll sell it for five dollar I’ll buy it and we’re burning it gross I’ll buy it we can burn it I’ll sell this for $5 honest actually you can have it you just have it um actually no you can’t to be fair um you’ll have to pay me five do no actually to be fair this is a gift from my woman years ago uh but hey she got it it was the right intention okay that’s how you knew Jeff was talking about Killian Haz a lot and how much he love if your girlfriend buys you something like she had no clue Killian Hayes was still probably know who is she just knows that you like Killian Hayes because you’re talking about him so much you should get approval we should burn it and post the video on like the end of a the Troy Weaver area it’s over finally yeah it it could be like the it’s like The Purge like burn it it’s like end of an era that whole what is it called the the the woju or stuff like get all that out burnu the bad juju we burn that we move on the JuJu’s gone what did I say the wuu wuu wuu I don’t know what that is well yeah you know what it’s it’s I’m curious who he brings in as a new GM I think that’s that’s probably the big thing but hey Trent Langdon I’m impressed at least the first like week good good good step one yeah I was going to say it’s like you don’t really know I mean there’s nothing B on the back for him yeah little little path in the back uh we’re gonna be joined by Corey in a couple of minutes here um I see Spirit of Detroit says Ivy K need Nick nurse last draft I wanted Grady dick yeah Grady dick man he’s that that red the red suit yeah he was he was yeah he was dripped out man Grady dick sniper absolute sniper mp uh Wu says should have traded for Aiden while we had the chance absolutely not out not that absolutely not uh DeAndre Aiden there’s no way in hell I’m giving that guy a I would have gave that guy a Max contract actually that’s a lie I I did have a video I I did talk about it on air and I I contemplated it but looking back I was wrong there’s no way in hell that should have ever happened ever ever so no all the [ __ ] that comes out about DeAndre Aon like the last six months dude he is like just keeps getting worse literally it just keeps getting worse um but let’s welcome in that’s welcoming Our Guest today all right he is man who covers the Detroit Pistons and the Detroit Lions yeah he is a a Swiss army knife and he’s one of the best in the state of Michigan at what he does and that’s Mr Cory Woods right uh who has been AB absolutely busy today especially with Troy we welcome to the show Cory how you doing hey how’s it going Cory I uh you know what my friend this is something that you know it’s an interesting day okay Troy Weaver he is out of here uh you know Tran langon first move he said adios TR Weaver I’ll see you later what are your thoughts on that because I think it sends one hell of a statement to the fan base I think it’s it’s a great step one and is the I I don’t know exactly who reported it hate doing this and I don’t know if you know but the report that he was offered a basically a demotion like he could be in The Scouting department but he declined it could you kind of expand on that and just your thoughts on uh Tron langden uh yeah don’t don’t quote me 100% but I believe that might have been in um Jame Edwards report that okay Troy Weaver was um offered a scouting role in apparently he declined it to um you know Paveway for whatever their change they’re about to make but to um answer your question about today’s news I believe you ask me what did I think of the move I think that it was smart and how the Pistons went ahead and rolled it out obviously we heard the reports that trer lane was going to be named the new president of basketball operations and the way they went about it was pretty smart because if you were already going to make the decision to part ways with Weaver go ahead and let him get that out the way before his introductory press conference that way on day one when he finally does speak to the media and to the public for the first time in his new he’s not he’s doesn’t have to answer questions about what he’s going to do about Troy Weaver that’s already been taken care of now he can go ahead and roll out his plan for the future and I think it wouldn’t it wouldn’t shock me that if they decide to also make the decision a part of ways of Monty Williams that will also be behead ahead of that um that introductory press conference as well so that remains to be seen but I believe the way they rolled it out and know with all the news with trer langon being announced as president and then the the the move to move away from Weaver smart move yeah hey Corey I I heard you mention Monty Williams there do you think just what what is your kind of your thought process on that with Monte Williams do you think since they didn’t do it at the same time here with Troy today that that’s going to end up being something to where he gets another year and like do you do you expect him to get another year and kind of do would you like that move to happen to keep him around well it remains to be seen uh just just the way they wrote it out I again I I would say pay attention to everything over over the weekend because I guess we would be expecting him to be introduced at some point next week so it would be shocking with the way they did the Weaver dismissal it would be shocking if they decide to part waves with Monty Williams and it’s not ahead of that press conference that way he can just tackle everything as far as his new vision and in one swoop as opposed to you know having the the Weaver thing solv but having to go into that introductory answering questions about Williams future and to answer your question about whether I would like to see him back I mean obviously I have no dog in the fight I’m I’m unbiased I’m a be reporter but at the same time you gotta look at it like this you the Pistons had a 17- win team last season and they brought back a lot of the same parts and told a new coach to do better with most of these same parts and 17 wins 14 wins I mean you’re pretty much arguing semantics three games ain’t really that much of a difference so I don’t think that it’s I think Monty Williams does have to take some accountability for how this roster turned out but I don’t know if moving on from him just yet will be the smart move because you brought back a lot of pieces from a from the second worst team in second worst record in your franchise history and expected him to do better it didn’t really make much sense to me so I I think he might be safe but again when you bring in a president basketball operations the way the Pistons did the way that many teams do that person whether it’s a man or woman whoever they’re were more than likely looking to bring in their people so it wouldn’t Shock Me in either direction I think if they do keep Monty Williams I’ll say maybe another season or maybe two that does give langon a little bit of leeway in this role because the clock officially starts on him once he makes his hire for the head coach yep yeah it’s definitely gonna be interesting seeing how this shakes out with Monty but as far as the roster shakes out one player I’m definitely interested to see if he stays or not is Jaden Ivy what do you think lon’s in house he’s going to do with Ivy well here’s the thing we see the potential that Ivy has when Ivy is hot Ivy is hot I mean he’s a he’s a very streaky player but and he’s and he can he’s athletic he can put the ball in the hoop but he’s also very inconsistent turnover a prone he is be below sub 35% from Beyond The Arc I mean he did have that little flurry earlier um earlier this year but again he went back to some of his old away so I think that if there is the a move out there where they can acquire an allar whether it’s a g whether it’s a point four that can help Elevate this Pistons offense and and provide the much needed much needed spacing that you you would want to have with a guy like Kade Cunningham being your facilitator I can see them parting ways with jayen iy yeah and Cory obviously the Pistons got stuck with the fifth pick again who do you want at five or do you think the team’s better off trading the pick well a lot of here’s one thing we got to say we people have to really understand about trading the pick the Pistons still ow the New York Knicks the first rounder so you would need that pick to convey first before they can start trading any so basically what the Pistons will be doing is should if they want to move that fif number fifth overall pick they would have to do it on draft night and basically you know select a player for whatever team they’re going into a deal with but having said that that being said I think it’s a possibility that they could go ahead move on from that pick in the draft there’s been clippings out there on the internet right um You can probably find them of langon stating his theory about looking for a superstar in that in those in those first five picks and we know all due respect I believe we can agree that this draft is devoid of superstars when you get down to that pick so if it’s for the so if they’re able to make some type of Draft Day Arrangement trade or whatnot that’s when I could see that pck being moved and Corey too I mean a guy who is out there and with the ties to Tran langan’s former organization Brandon Ingram and this is my question to you okay and I know you mention you already mentioned the draft night a potential draft night deal you have New Orleans who and I I talked with this uh about this with Anthony pistono so shout out to him for having me on but on the New Orleans Pelicans they do need young Talent uh they’re not going to be able to keep everybody so they want to get a little younger is in your eyes and just from what you’ve covered what you’ve heard what what How likely do you think a move for a potential Brandon Ingram could align with now it’s kind of like uh the Brad Holmes when he got to the Lions made a deal with his former organization the Rams do you get that sense it could be opening to where they’ll have negotiations for someone like Brandon Ingram or do you think they’ll just stay away possibly because they do got to give an extension as well BR well I think that it is very well possible just off the simple fact that the Pistons do have some they do have compelling pieces that they could offer the New Orleans Pelicans to acquire Brandon Ingram now that’s not to say that their Pistons have the mostra most attractive package but they do they do have one they do have the pieces I mean you have jayen Ivy you have some people may not want to hear this you have an assar Thompson you have an an Isaiah Stewart I think if you’re looking to make a move for Brandon Ingam the one person the two people you would probably want to hold on to would be Kade Cunningham and and Jaylen Duren and maybe who whomever else you can kind of get creative and I think that the Pelicans would will go ahead and make that move they’re going to need a new center with um valent chunis leaving and with um the emergence of Trey Murphy and berbert Jones Ingram is going to be the odd man out the Pelicans have a very loaded payroll they’re gonna have to get rid of somebody so I believe the Pistons have a have an attractive um trade package to be able to get them and I think it would be a smart move to do that as well they’re gonna enter free agency with roughly around 60 million and again just a similar to the draft class this free agency free agency class isn’t as attractive and I think if you go ahead and make a move for somebody like Brandon Ingram you can absorb him into into that cap and then still go out and get a couple of B minus C+ players to surround these guys with and see what happens I believe that would be a smarter move than uh going out there in free agency and doing an overpay of somebody agreed yeah that was going to be part of my question too here Corey is just like looking at what Lon did in New Orleans a lot of those guys T.J McCullum Jonas valent chunis um and Brandon Ingram like those are all like acquired via trade like which way do you do you feel like lon’s GNA take because we we saw Troy Weaver come in and essentially tear down and just go straight through the draft and obviously that didn’t work out as as we thought do you see Lon being like hey let me get my own guys in here and build through the draft or the other route of because he essentially in New Orleans you’re looking at their roster he kind of did both ways to where he traded for some three or four massive starting pieces and then the bench and a couple of those guys were all through the draft do you see him going one way or the other or like what seems more more realistic now you you mentioned the 60 million here um in for agency do you see him kind of taking one of those routes or just kind of going up the middle and saying hey let’s try both here like we did in New Orleans um well that’s a tricky question because we have yet to speak to Lan to be able to see what his vision is but I believe when you really look at what the Pistons have right now I think the smarter thing would be to do to see who you can get through um through trade as AO again as opposed to going out there in free agency because here’s the one thing that people sometimes people misconstrue about the cap the Pistons have to spend the money they it’s it’s it’s they have to spend 90% of the of the cap I Believe by the time training camp starts or they have to write the league a check so do you want the Pistons to spend the money or do you want them to have to write a league of check and you’re getting up before it so be whether it’s acquiring somebody through trade to eat that cap room or going through free agency um they’re going to have to use that cap up and I believe that through trades might be their best route to go I mean there’s a couple of guys out there but I mean you know Tobias Harris is out there I believe oan noi is going to be out there do you wanna do you want to um give this guy a a sizable contract to leave New York and come to Detroit but I mean they have they have a lot of options I believe will’ll be I think the picture will be a lot more clear once we have that introductory press conference with langon and he’s able to share his vision yeah I feel like kind of the obvious question that’s still sitting there Corey is Troy Weaver’s gone thank goodness good riddance who do you think is going to be the guy if you had to make the the selection of replacing him as the general manager you know what I have actually I have no idea right now because again we’ve seen in the past people that have held the President of basetball Operations role such as um St Stan Van Gundy and Joe Dumars they’ve actually been the deao GM as well so who’s to say that we don’t know we don’t know who know who’s to say that you know this guy’s G to go ahead and hire a GM or is he’s going to go ahead and step into the role of himself there is there is some names Flo not there is potential people he could bring in in that role but again we I I don’t have a clue until we see what kind of vision he’s he’s gonna have in his role and what his full Authority is gonna be yeah because to that point too Corey it is it is true um because that’s something that we talked about earlier it’s like what do you you know who’s he going to bring in at GM but Tim Connelly is like president of basketball operations but really GM like he kind of has both roles um it gives trj and Lon more power so it makes sense uh I I do I do want to ask you at least uh moving forward you look at this you look at this team we have we we understand that it’s going to be a lengthy process there’s a lot of work that needs to be done um and it could be solved if they be more aggressive via trade maybe they go get a Brandon Ingram like I brought up or anybody for that matter but and what do you what are you expecting in terms of free agency you mentioned going out and signing some guys some names that are just out there that do make sense I mean you’re going to have free agents like possibly OG and anobi you’re going to have guys like Malik monk uh you know buddy heel just to give you more of a lower end Gary Trent Jr what should the Detroit Pistons prioritize in free agency and then the two-part question uh C can you just reassure everybody whether you believe Kate Cunningham is a true franchise player it’s a two-parter I know but that’s something that people keep bringing up whether Cade’s that guy or not but first what should they do in free agency uh first off I think in free agency you got to go ahead and prioritize getting a guy like Malik m i mean he’s shown first off he’s he’s still very young I believe he’s around 26 years old maybe 25 and he’s has the ve the veteran experience that you need while still being young he’s had he’s incredibly athletic decent mid-range solid from the from Beyond The Arc which really helps out with the Piston spacing and if you’re able to get a guy like him I mean heck Malik W could be your day one starter as shooting guard um with Kade with Kade Cunningham and if you still have Ivy bring him off the bench because again in this NBA you have to be able to shoot or play really really good defense to make up for your shooting and let’s just be real Ivy is doesn’t fit either mode right now and to kind of go with your two-part question we do not know what Kade Cunningham really is yet obviously we see that he’s um incredibly talented but when you have a facilitator and a playmaker like him surrounded by guys that shoot below 35% from Beyond the Arc that already one kills the kills the Piston spacing and you need reliable Shooters around a guy like that or else you’re not going to really see his the true fruition of his game come together he’s easy to double team on zero in on and which is why I believe we saw a lot of his turnovers to start the season because he had to overcompensate for what was not surrounded what he was not surrounded with like I mean heck look at the guy and I believe I believe Bobby Mark said this when I had a conversation with him look at a guy like PJ Washington look at what he did with the Charlotte Hornets and then look at what he did comp doing now with the Dallas Mavericks when he surrounded around better Talent you’re seeing a different player so I believe when you when you surround Kate Cunningham with the proper spacing and and people that can go ahead and put the ball in the hoop themselves we’re going to be able to see what he truly is right now we just know that he’s he has the potential but we don’t know what he can really be at um and last thing I want to ask you here Corey is just now that we know uh Treon langan’s in and in the Troy Weaver situation now it’s it’s going to be official that he’s out obviously the mon stuff’s in the air but just I want to know like initial here the the news comes out today what is your initial kind of expectation now going into next season for the Pistons I think a lot of fans a lot of people like listeners of ours are like kind of question all right where are we at now are we going to have another 14 17 wins or is it Lang in where are the expectations now he comes in makes all these moves that we talked about here um and kind of makes that Improvement and gets to 25 games or TW or is it just hey let’s let’s be a little bit more patient now that a new guy is in here what are your expectations here for the fans kind of going forward um with with the new the new front office well I believe the new front office is in a good spot and you know obious honestly you have to give you have to give some of this credit to Troy Weaver I mean obviously there were some things that he did not do well during his tenure but the new guys that are going to be coming in are going to have roughly 60 in cap space a number five overall pick and some young Talent young talented pieces this was all done under Troy weer granted you know everything granted the 74 and 244 over the four past seasons is not what you would like but the new guys coming into a really sweet situation so I believe a fair expectation is to see this team get above 25 games that that is that I believe that is a very fair expectation you don’t want we last time I last time I said that um this could get any worse is when they won 17 games and they followed up with 14 so I’m not going to say it can’t get any worse but I believe having but I believe rebuilding by getting some smaller B+ C minus um not C minus B plus C+ players throughout free agency and or maybe acquiring that Allstar through a um through a through a decent trade that would be the best way to go ahead and build this team up to move forward and I believe that’s what Pistons should be expecting so I’ll say around North to 25 games can we can we just get 10 just give me give me 10 10 more wins ju just please please some way the opposite of Rob perker no way no how some way somehow please can we just get 10 more wins Cory we appreciate your presence thank you thank you for taking the time appr Cory yeah you always gra time check out Cory stuff mlive.com Pistons Lions the man is versatile until next time Cory we appreciate you thank you so much thanks a lot there you have it yeah well it’s gonna be great combo boys should be I’m yeah it gets be pumped up for the Pistons season I know it’s like we shouldn’t be but I I talked about it like since we started doing crunch time a couple months ago I did not want to talk Pistons until there was a move made I said either Tom Gore sells the team or Troy Weaver gets fired Troy Weaver is fired now it’s like actually I hate to say this I enjoyed a Pistons conversation there fellas now there’s a little bit of not light but it’s like oh there something happened they’re building the light they’re building the light Edison’s in the lab right now and and and this happens every time they did this a couple years ago with Troy we’re all like oh light oh Troy Weaver and you know but yeah it’s a start though you know I get to see some more things with the roster before I really get excited get see a couple good trades go through but it is a start I agree can’t wait till the Press Jeff can we get you there wait did Mike just give a he gave a little he gave a little Troy Weaver’s out the guy he hates is out the guy we all don’t like he’s out we can move on now Mike this is a new Mike no I wouldn’t go that I wouldn’t go that go that hater he stays a hater but he’s still no no I’m a realist everything I said about Troy weer was fair his drafts have been dog [ __ ] he’s been dog [ __ ] his trades but he’s gone now so it’s fair uh no no you Boer already declared there’s no Boer path for the P well I said that with Troy Weaver I said with Troy Weaver oh I I’ll hand over my you are the CPO clly I will we will have the conversation but depending on what uh Lon does I mean it could be like in a year but I just need to see something in a year did I steer you did I steer you wrong on the Red Wings no yeah no you were right with the Red Wings no offense Gentry uh Jeff can we get you in the from a mile away I saw it from a mile away um I I would love to I would love to I I don’t know if I’ll be able to in a short amount of time let’s make the move let’s make the but during the season you never roll anything out you know we we’ll try to get we’ll try to I like I would like to get a couple you know hop in a little bit on a in a game or two go watch the Pistons hey hey hey langon Boer here former former division 2 uh basketball coach yeah he’s like yeah B we should get we should get mer going of now that Weaver’s fired make like a holiday type shirt put Weaver behind bars or something like a oh my no don’t do that don’t do that I don’t mind it Bo I don’t mind it no don’t do that hey there’s a couple things to think about your brother no uh no you know what we we’ll get in the lab like you say we’ll get in the lab the Pistons great again I can get with that one I can get with that I’m with I’m with you when you’re right and I think that you might be on to something there well fellas Tim tman I think he’s on to something because he uh he put out OTA week 2 takeaways he put it out on Detroit lies.com it went into more of a detailed you know all the detailed takeaways before we get into that I do want to show some footage some footage yep we do have footage all right we we do have yes I said that we have footage here on crunch time from OTAs it was posted on Twitter our good friend John maon good friend of the program he posted a video of the dline working we also we’re very lucky to have the Lions post something all right and they posted some receivers getting some work and there was a receiver in there making some plays that you hav really talked about I think clazy I think cl’s gonna he’s gonna like this one but we’ll start with the D linan uh and those guys going through some drills it’s nice to see these guys working with uh is it Terell or t what Mike say Terell right that’s okay I don’t know CL you just said he was muted sneezing I didn’t want to yeah my bad I think it’s Terrell though Terrell yeah I like Terrell dude that’s great I think like Terrell sounds like easier to say but I think it’s Terell either way but we gotta get that usually like Terrell there’s an e at the end the Double L is like L like Dell d l l that’s D that’s fair Terrell also also tomorrow we have post shoting first cut so on Monday we’ll be talking about who’s available but let’s get to this video here um this was posted by our good friend John M at Detroit podcast on Twitter so go give him a follow check out his stuff and John uh he took some footage look at this boys are getting to work y Hut good boy Hutch face everything look so much better I can’t see numbers that’s a problem that was Pas coach Gerald was 95 bets or is that commit bets bets look at him hey he look good okay you sold your soul on the mat you sold your soul you’re off you’re off the Matty bets train don’t go climb it back I still have a bet on it I still have a bet on it can we watch bets again I want the people in the chat to like hey what do we think does he look big what look at that he kind of looks looks good no looks good look go back a little bit more go back a little more Jeff go back to when he’s standing up next to the Comm he’s bigger than the pause pause pause he’s bigger than the commish he’s taller yeah pause pause and he’s quicker and he had 18 I like that hey people let’s get some BS chats in in the chat please what I don’t know kind of looks big look at him dude he’s he’s yeah I mean he doing some drills on uh you know with what no pads I mean what are we gonna do are you guys just gonna hate on him until he proves you wrong no well maybe I am see now we’re getting to that point where I am starting to hate out him but I don’t I don’t feels like it I just don’t think he is going to make the roster I think he’ll be a practice squad member very very fine practice squad fine the rumor was he’s too small he doesn’t look too small to me there he looks like he’s almost as big as a commission commission is a guy that he pretty big Yeah well yeah I think kamish honestly I think kamish might be better than him at this point just just what I’m thinking uh well let’s check out the receivers put in work this was posted on the Detroit Lion social media page uh just pay attention you know because someone stood out in this video so you have Aman raw Sam Brown working see he’s running some routes Al and raw just looking crisp I mean this dude just look it just crisp as always that’s the bread and butter right there look at J the route running now who oh my gosh yeah who is that is that is Williams could it’s not could this be is this is this like a Lucas Claud quintess seus catch moment is that uh is that what’s his wait I’m trying to think of the dude’s name L it no it is Darice Fontaine oh yeah yeah or Doris or Darice the names really get our our show here yeah dude I’m not gonna lie to you Fontaine he is uh I think he he he hasn’t really played like a ton of snaps in the NFL but the Lions brought him in to to just compete hey see what he’s got I think he was on was it the ners so he like solid Chiefs that’s what it was Chiefs last season he played in two games but I think it was just all special teams because he had no yards and he had like a tackle or two I’m interesting interesting guy a name we definitely have not talked about on here we’ve been talking about who’s gonna be that wide receiver 65 Who’s Gonna Be That Jag and I mean it’s obviously early on it’s OTAs but if he keeps making plays like this I a nice sag yeah I mean it’s all hands and I’m really excited to see J Mo that crisp ass route on the bench cut C his hands turned up field again it’s OTAs but seeing him kind of Polish up his route running I think is very important for him to take that next step yeah well he uh he’s somebody that we haven’t really been talking about a lot I don’t know what he’s got to give he might be a little sleeper maybe like the next tk85 where he’s just a storyline even though he barely like he barely plays people just love him yeah I I am curious you know who threw that ball though hon hooker he did he Fontaine had to go up and get it um that was the point though like he okay I thought you say like a look I mean look at he’s he’s in the middle of the field throws it up so only he can get it yeah that actually that your you’re right with that and I do want to bring up too like Ben yesterday on that press conference when when he was asked like hey what weapons are going to take over for Josh Josh Reynolds the one thing that he did throw in there yeah he mentioned a couple other like he mentioned dpj and and a couple other guys he was like maybe we get Gibbs the ball some more leor a couple extra catches one thing he did say he was like maybe there’s some guys from last year that you guys didn’t hear about and some practice squad guys that end up stepping up and finally get their number called and make some plays so there might be some guys that we just aren’t we Haven had a conversation about that end up not maybe getting being that wide receiver 34 but like CL said 56 getting that spot to where hey maybe your name’s called throughout the season maybe fontaine’s one of those guys that Ben Johnson was alluding to well I I’m they got a lot of bodies in that wide receiver room so I I it’s going to be probably one of the biggest competitions uh this off season for a lot of guys I know there’s some guys that are just going to be playing but for like the Antoine green of the world you know Isaiah Williams it’s going to be some guys battling battling it out and uh so to get to Tim 20an he also did talk about uh some things that he took away from uh just today uh and last couple of days from um OTAs so let’s read Tim 21’s takeaways and to start us off there was a little bit of some tempers flaring he says tempers flare there was a scrap you know two of them actually uh and it says here there were couple minor skirmishes between offensive and defensive linemen in the first 11 and 11 team period after the second one head coach Dan Campbell stopped practice and brought everyone in to have a little talk no more Shenanigans followed defensive lineman aen Hudson was asked about it after practice and he said it’s a part of changing the mindset on defense so fellas love that they want to be dogs they want to be nasty they want to scrap that’s what’s that’s what you want to hear out of the defensive line they you needed that from from them last year I don’t know if they if that was the case especially going up against pan Taylor like Frank rag now these guys like give us some juice give us something boys that’s Matthew Betson there going up to you know a Panet being every go let’s go me you no I’m just kidding no you know what I mean like that’s like you eat that juice from the defense of line it’s like finally there’s some juice from it like that’s something we haven’t had maybe that’s the uh Terell Williams coming in and and being like I boys like what are we doing you guys are soft it’s time to man up are you saying that Charles Harrison bring the juw Spooner no neither do the a Brothers I I called for their jobs week two like get them out of here like I was ready to move on now they got some dudes in here M Mar I know you hate Marcus Davenport cloudy but at least that man brings brings a little juice to the party we don’t hate him we think he’s a fine Edge rusher but that really speaks to Tyrell Williams and ag even like that that’s one of the the vocal points we needed that defensive line to bring some energy and for them to show it this early is is a very good sign yeah I mean they hear the noise they hear us Maddy Betts I’m sure is on Twitter he hears everybody criticizing him to your point Boer I don’t hate Marcus Davenport but I’m definitely want to give uh Mark stport some criticism and even guys like Josh Pascal this whole defensive line outside of pretty much aen Huds and DJ reer I think even Lee mcneel being on a contract year is a lot to prove so seeing these guys getting after it this early it’s definitely a hopeful instead of oh just another year let’s just get through walkthroughs and OTAs like no these guys are hungry rookie like Makai Wingo yeah he he’s looking at Matty bet sizing him up going yeah I could take this I could get this guy’s job sharpens iron P Su and Matty bets that that ain’t iron sharp dirt yeah gonna say does bronze I mean is that sharpen than iron I don’t know you know I don’t even know bronze might be a little friendly I’m being honest I he would absolutely you know what I’m being disrespectful he’s probably a very very great guy great guy sure he’s a family man sure he’s a you know maybe he’s a God-fearing man but in terms of in ter in terms of making Lions he ain’t making that Team all right unless unless unless there’s a scenario where he’s like you know what Matty bets absolute dog on special teams we need some special teamers in here then yeah but up back yeah but he’ll end that he’ll end the season I promise you with probably zero sacks all right if make another bet you want to make another bet we can make another bet I I’ll make that bet too MADD no now okay so there’s a contingency so we have the bet if he makes the roster and then there’s a parlay in there if he gets no sacks are we going that yeah pizza for both a one a pizza if he makes the team if he doesn’t make the team and then later on the the year he gets on the roster and ends up getting a sack I get the P Pizza from you back one from you boer’s like hedging his bet yeah but if it happens if both happen if both happen get a sack so I would so I I’ll go for I think I’m going two and0 with that wait hold on Gentry has doubt hold on two and let me go two and0 real quick wa Gentry you don’t like my side of it you don’t like my side of it no I do I do okay make get may get two pizzas if I if I was taking this bet I would take Jeff side okay that’s my guy I was just making sure I was I listen to you Gentry I listen to you you said it was a bad bet I wouldn’t have taken it all right so hey here we are MADD B season now that’s how desperate we are but anyway let’s get back to the uh let’s get back to the article here so Tim 21 uh he also writes up and down day is a little headline there and bold uh secondy year quarterback hen hookers get more and more comfortable and coordinator Ben Johnson’s offense Campbell said before Thursday’s practice that Wednesday was a great day for hooker I thought Thursday was up and down for him he missed a couple throws over the middle uh he’ll like back when he sees them on tap but he also show terrific touch on the sideline pass to running back Jake Funk and hit I’m sorry what you know about that Jake Funk okay Scot mgy guy hey let’s keep going okay and hit a tight hit a tight window throw to wide receiver uh Darice F Fontaine over the middle for a comple video hook see hey he gave him some he gave some love there hooker ran a nice situational period putting the offensive field goal range after starting from his own 37 with 1 minute and 19 seconds on the clock hooker received all the second team reps in the two open OTA practices so far so I you know what in terms of being uh the backup quarterback this is good now we’re making they’re G they’re throwing him out there seeing what he’s got you know can he compete little minute left on the clock can you get some points against everyone in no pads got three with no pass rush really the the big lights were on how are you gonna respond yeah it’s OTAs they’re probably bumping like you know Kendrick Lamar or something in the background tell you that much lights are bright all in park yeah I mean it is what it is if I’m being honest the the big thing here is the fact that he’s just at least slowly getting there I just don’t want Nate sudfeld to be the backup I don’t and maybe the backup back AR even worth a combo fellas but no it is no no no backup quarterback is always when you have a Super Bowl team I know like if a quarterback goes down your your season’s over but if you have your quarterback Jared gof go down for a game or two can you get someone maybe just going one in one in that stretch instead of going 0 and two like can you get like if Ard hooker it’s only week two of him the the the positive news that I took out of it is that he took all the second string snaps instead of Nate subfield which means that that Improvement like they’re they’re seeing it like Dan said the other day like the Improvement that they saw a couple days ago that was what they want to see and then that turns into him taking all the second team snaps like by the time the season comes around I want him to be like obviously he’s not going to be as experienced as a Teddy Bridgewater because Teddy was in the league for so long and started games and all that but like you need him to get as close as you can to that to to that level to where if Jared misses a game or misses two games you have to have someone that can just just keep you in games to give you a chance to at least go one in one two in one Whatever It Is yeah so that is a conversation Jeff I I refuse to believe that H and hooker just stepping on the field even if it was day one is not better than David blow Tim Bole or Nate sudfeld I will refuse to believe that so I I do think though to boer’s point that backup quarterback is incredibly important and it shows when you need one so I mean look at I know the Colts didn’t go to the playoffs last year but like look at the Colts last year I mean if they didn’t have Garder muu and they had Tim Bole back there they’d probably be picking a top three pick in this draft which honestly probably would help him out but you never want to have just some some bum sitting back there at your backup spot especially when you’re a Super Bowl team with a tough division you need a solid backup and someone in the chat said sudfeld is hurt I have no idea if that’s true or not but either way no he is but still that guess what now now hendon’s getting those snaps he the he’s he’s dealing with something that was told to us by John I believe but the fact that it’s not even that he’s getting the the second team reps because that’s expected but that he’s like doing something with it that what I I’m like okay at least he’s doing something out there what did sudfeld hurt ah it’s some it’s a minor thing he’s just he I think uh they was we we talked about it last week henden hooker was taking his reps and his he was getting like double the Reps because Nate out clipboard or something but and I usually hate watching preseason if I watch it at all but like you know there’s an incentive this year that you get to watch henden hooker you know tear it up in preseason hopefully so it’s exciting man well another player to keep an eye on here go off to J Mo connection which Tim wrote about he says Williams is expected to have a much bigger role this year as the number two receiver behind I’m Ros Brown golfin Williams hooked up early in practice during that seven on seven period down a deep down the right sideline for a touchdown Williams showed off that terrific speed beating quarterback okay hey that was a starter last year he’s being an NFL starter and making a nice over the shoulder catch that’s important over the shoulder catch it earned a fist bump from Goff after Williams crossed the goal line the two later connected on a 29 yard pass in a situational team period that helped set up a field goal and then Tim also writes speaking of Sam Brown he looks to be in mid-season form which is to be expected given his work ethic inconsistency over the last three seasons he was all over the field catching passes from golf Thursday expect a monster season from St Brown in another year of Johnson’s offense hey Jameson Williams making some noise he’s just keeping people talking just keeping people talk he’s out here making plays making you guys remember last year at this time like those conversations were like oh J dropped the pass or J Mo struggling and this and that like he’s in year three now and he’s just expected to go out there and do that stuff and and and you love to hear that and yeah I think John said he’s dropped a pass or two and this and that like things have happened but I don’t I I think just hearing some positivity coming out from the J Mo Camp is good and fellas I just want to throw this out there the I’m and Rod St Brown thing you didn’t think and and Jeff you’re not a proponent of it but you’re someone that we’ve had the conversation of how much more can Can Am androd do like there’s going to be a point to where like he can’t go over there because you have so many weapons hearing am and Rod St Brown in OTAs is in mid-season form it makes me feel like like what is he going to look like when the season comes around like what is he going to look like in the middle of the Season he’s going to be that much better and I think we talk about it all the time like St Brown isn’t one of those guys that just get to where he’s at and he’s I’m cool with that like I’m good he’s going to keep getting better and better and he’s going to keep making those catches and he’s going to keep working out with John Brown and he’s gonna keep doing all of that like you we had Mo on the show and he he’s worked out with John Brown and he told you what it’s like I’m in R st Brown’s gonna keep getting better guys and the one thing we haven’t talked about with Saint is this we Josh Reynolds left we keep asking a people oh where are those catches going to go is J Mo going to step up is dpj going to step up is khif going to get more is Gibbs going to get more why not Aman R Brown why hasn’t anyone said hey am R st Brown’s going to get 300 more yards to replace Josh Reynolds he’s going to be the one that goes out there and gets 16,700 yards like we no one’s brought that up yet this is like I I was sitting here and I read that and I’m like wait a second we keep asking who’s GNA take Josh Reynolds yards that 600 yards of a difference am and Ros Brown has gotten gradually better every year when you think he can’t get better guess what he’s came back every season and he’s increased stats increased stats increased stats he’s going to do that again this year and he’s going to end up taking some of those yards from Josh Reynolds and he’s gonna go what did he have this year what was it 1500 I believe 1400 I could be wrong might have been 15 might have don’t be shocked this is this is the conversation guys that we have had and and and I’ve brought up a couple times that I feel like at some point in his career I’m and Ros Browns going to be in the conversation for offensive player of the year I think this is one of those years to where you lose Josh Reynolds amond rth St Browns goes out there and gets 16,700 yards 10 plus touchdowns dominates you’re you’re the number one seed in the NFC and there’s going to be no choice but to say this man might have led the league in receiving yards this year we have to give it to him don’t forget Jeff he’s the yak King this this season yes he’s the yak King don’t be shocked if he ends up leading the NFL in receiving yards one of these years and you know what I want you to say something I’m gonna C put hisp no it’s not he use that as motivation this is this is where we have to draw a very fine line I am not being negative I’m trying to be realistic okay what what my here hear me out I never said I’m and raw can’t no way he doesn’t have it in him to get that many yards I I’ve not I’ve never said that what I am saying is Jared G he loves to spread the ball around right I know Alan rossing Brown’s gonna get his OB obviously but I don’t in Ben Johnson’s offense they want to spread the ball around they have a lot of weapons like this isn’t like you know I always think of when I think of guys that were fed that had a lot of production I think of Cooper cup which go look at that year who they had on the Rams I go look at that they fed Cooper cup Calvin Johnson obvious reasons I don’t really need to explain more uh you go into uh CD lamb look at that look what they had I mean he was getting fed at the end like which he do have the hands like Aman Rob but I don’t know if Aman Rob will be fed like that I I think it’ll be there’ll be a collection of guys that are going to maybe he can get yeah can he get to you know 16 maybe he can lead the league in receiving yeah not I don’t mind saying he can’t I’m just curious I don’t know if they’ll have that type of setup where it’s like feed and Rossy Brown like they got so many guys we talk about we you just mentioned the other day that jir is gonna increase his I do but many yard is Jed go throwing je we haven’t had the conversation yet about Aman R getting those those catches cuz how many how many catches did did Josh reyolds have last year 40 50 yes so like those J 300 last year we okay and I agree I agree J’s gonna get more but we haven’t had the conversation of hey maybe they want to use Aman rore he is the yak King in the NFL when you have the guy in the NFL that has the most yards after a catch oh maybe maybe if you need to spread the ball around more because you lost one of your key players maybe you give the ball to the guy that has the most yards after a catch in the entire NFL like that is an opportunity to like go out there and do that and I get those weapons but like Jeff Tyreek Hill 1700 plus yards how many weapons did they have okay ah but okay but Boon that’s where you gota Tyreek I’m just he brought up CD lamb as a qu like I’m gonna bring up another one I think if you look at CD lamb especially if you look at the running game like Tony P like they they weren’t running the ball and Brandon Cook did have a couple games but it was pretty much CD lamb and the game the time when CD lamb wasn’t getting fed it was going to Jake Ferguson I I agree with you that probably like I could see him going up a 100 yards but I don’t know about 300 just because I do think the lions are going to have more success as a team overall Jared G’s not going to be positioned where us to be throwing the ball as much and it’s a run first offense I think if you look Miami is a run first offense but if you look at Mike McDaniels that that that pass passing attack it’s so calculated with Tyreek Hill and Jaylen wad then you look at guys like Justin Jefferson he’s getting fed the ball there too so I get what you’re saying I could see a production increase I could see like 100 150 yards but I do also think that the L just situationally are not going to be a position where they have to feed Aman ra that type of role where he’s a Tyreek Hill C lamb Justin Jefferson you name it that’s you said that you said that perfectly that’s kind of where I’m coming from Boon I like that’s kind of where with the 2,000 yard potential backs it’s like you know they’re and the defense is better more stops they’re playing with the lead run the ball like they’re not he was 2 like 50 yards or something away from leading the League last year and he missed a football game so like if he plays in all the games this year you’re going to think that I’m in R especially with losing your number two wide receiver I know there’s going to be guys to fill in and there’s going to be but you have to think like Aman ra is your vet he’s the guy you’re going to lean on consistently when it comes in that wide receiver room especially losing a vet like Josh Reynolds so it’s like I don’t think it’s crazy to say hey I’m in Rod St Brown you just lost your wide receiver number two I know you need J to step up and you expect him to be two you expect dpj to fill in a rle you expect khif to be there but hey think about this what happens if right away some of the guys those guys don’t end up doing that instantly and it takes some time you’re gonna lean on a guy like am Rat St Brown and you expect him a guy like him who works as hard as he does and every year he improves you would think he goes out there and he’s probably gonna have another 1500 yards adding another 200 to it to when when you’re trying to find kind of that new offense because you lost one of your main weapons I don’t see that as like a crazy Outlook being like hey what happens when when you need you know your team needs someone to lean on who do you lean on your best player and that’s I’m and R Brown at the end of the day and obviously some guys are going to get better but I don’t see I see targets getting taken away from I’m and Rod St Brown I see more so of more targets getting thrown his way because you’re losing wide receiver to and you have some younger guys that need to step up so that’s why for me when I think about that in here he’s already in mid-season form it’s like okay he’s probably gonna get a couple extra targets a couple extra weeks this year if he stays healthy like those targets for him that’s yards after catch he can add another 200 200 on and remember the conversation we had about the wide receivers guys there’s been guys that have led the NFL wide receiver yards with 1600 yards 1500 yards so it I wouldn’t be shocked if he ends up doing that and puts himself in an opportunity to do that and be offensive player of the year I would not be shocked I mean I I still think he gets fed and I still think he gets you know more catches than he did last year obviously with given how the offense has restructured but I still think they keep it honest leapor is going to get his touches I think it’s really about filling the void of Josh Reynolds with J Mo and J Mo really progressing because like Lucas said you still have the best RB duo in the league you have the best offensive line you kind of want to stick to what works and that was running the ball in the play action so I I don’t think he’s gonna get crazy amount more than he did last year but I do expect that it will be a little bit more and he’ll continue to increase year by year so I I agree with you in that instance Boer but you still got to stick to the Run game and the biggest thing is about filling that void with Jameson Williams and him really progressing and taking Josh Reynolds place and being better than him yeah I mean no Lucas you got something because I yeah I was just going to say I think not saying because is this when I say this it’s going to sound like I’m disagreeing with what you’re saying Mo I do think that amanra is going to be again especially in the receiving game Jared G’s guy but I think offensively this year the focal Point’s going to be jir Gibbs that’s why especially on the ground I think that’s why I think another reason why amanra is a guy that absolutely if he was in a different situation 17 1800 yards especially if the team’s trailing a lot but this year I don’t know man I think that’s where am could be the focal point but I do think it’s just GNA be who are you looking to give the ball first to I think it’s gonna be jir Gibbs that that’s right I I think I I I don’t know I just don’t think that Ben Johnson looks at it like our focal point this year is Jamir G I think that just he’s gonna do what he did last year maybe he’s G to get more touches and I I’ve agreed with you that I think jir is going to be a a pro bowl All Pro running back in the next year or two I just I don’t think that’s how they look at it at all like realistically they’re not like hey now the offense runs to jir G like no you just had you had an all pro wide receiver you have an all that doesn’t take away from that but but I think like we’re going straight through Gibbs like what that’s not gonna I mean I think if you look at it if you look at it it’s a run first team and a huge part of their passing game is going off and using the play action when you have a running back you take 12th overall and it’s playing like a running back that you take 12th overall and again you have a better defense offensive line especially with zitler is going to improve in the Run game jir Gibbs is going to be making big plays and going to be one of those guys where it’s hard not to give the ball especially when it’s so much easier to hand the ball off than having to worry about Jared G making a throw not saying that Jared G Can’t but how much easier more consistent is that and I just think run first team I think a top five running back I think top three running back I think by defa that’s the offense goes through there’s a good balance there like Aman R still gonna get fed but I think it’s just easier to look to Jamir Gibbs first then that’s where I I don’t know I disagree a little bit I because and I think jir Gibbs ends up being top five I just think being like hey it’s jir Gibbs show now like I Ben Johnson like he could have anyone on his team he’s never going to be like it’s this oneman show it’s I’m not saying that I’m what it feels like though that’s like ra was the focal point Sam Le Porter was still going off David Montgomery is still going off but who do they look to First Aman ra I think year two jir Gibbs I think we could see his transition could it be another year from then yeah but I could very well see it being this year and I and I’m you know you guys are little higher on uh what Gibbs can do in terms of where he can rank I my point and you took the Gibbs angle but my angle is just the Run game I just think they’re they are a run for and I’m not I don’t really disagree with what boer’s saying about Aman rod in terms of character like he’s good he’s always gonna get he’s gonna improve he works his ass off but it’s the point I made about leaport like let’s say like Alan ra matches his yards from last year he can still improve but have similar statistics that that but leading leading the league and um receiving yards like yeah I just I guess it depends Moon because like you said if you get I think you can get 1500 if 1500 leads the league in receiving like yeah I mean that yeah you’re right but like I don’t know I’m curious if this offense all of a sudden just changes and they’re like we’re gonna get Aman raw like 18900 yard whatever I I don’t think again guys I don’t think it’s me be like I’m not saying they’re gonna oh move the focal point towards amond RS hey feed him feed him feed him feed him feed him I just think like like Ben said in his press conference yesterday it’s we have to find a way to get those like I want to look it up right now Josh Reynolds how many catches did he have and targets did he have like we got to figure out all right where are those going to go to and yeah you expect that to go to Jameson Williams he had 40 catches you expect those 40 touches to go to Jameson Williams and dpj and those but again like some of them can go to jir Gibbs some of them are goingon to go to Aman R st Brown etc etc like that’s gonna happen there like some of those guys are going to get a couple more more more touches and I do I agree with Lucas I think Gibbs gets a lot more I think deont gets some taken away and it goes towards Gibbs because we know what he is that’s kind of my AR a little bit with it can I ask you and this I’m being serious I got so J she let’s say J what did Josh have 600 what was it he had like 600 yards something like that 600 and something yards yes so if J Mo had 300 and we all think J Mo would we agree J could get like realistically like at least 800 can we go can but is he guaranteed to no but I think he can okay so well in your scenario if J’s like a complete bust then yeah like they’re going to fa will be but but let’s say he is good and he gets 800 yards there’s 500 more you want Gibbs to get 200 more receiving yards there’s 200 more so now we’re at I see I see what you’re saying so you get and then like leaport so he’d have to stay the same then Boer he’d have to stay the exact because if Bo he gets another 150 now we’re at almost a thousand more yards and we haven’t even T you know touch domond Ross production you get where I’m coming from here I’m not trying I I do but I I just think there’s like some something’s going to happen like I just don’t see am and Robie like I’m like not him personally but you relied so much on him like yeah Gibbs can take on a role as well but I think like Aman Rod he’s just one of those guys to where that’s like part of yeah like I don’t see him going out there and getting 1,200 yards this year like another 1500 yard season like that’s an expectation I’m sure for him and for this Lions offense and they rely on him a lot like you just don’t go away from someone that you went to the NFC championship game with that was your number one option and your reliability source and just go hey let’s just switch that up to Gibbs or or Jam like going to get that 1500 again and if not he’s going to improve his game and he’s getting better like someone put it in the chat I can’t remember who it was it was sick argument he put it in there he was like Aman Ryan mentioned that like he he expects to have the same amount of catches he probably won’t get more but he wants to get better in yards after catch and like him going into the offseason with that mindset think about that he’s gonna go into this year knowing that he needs to get more yak and and he’s gonna do that and that’s going to take him from 1500 to 1600 maybe I just don’t think it’s crazy to to think of like I’m sure this is the conversation a lot of us had two years ago with Alan ra being like I don’t know if he’ll ever get to that all proo level and guess what he did it within a year or two he is an all proo first team so it feels like a similar thing and I get what you’re saying Bo I don’t want it to be like a uh we’re like debating his like potential I I don’t it’s not that I think it’s debating opportunity that’s what we’re debating because like we all agree I’m and Ros Brown’s the hardest working dude one of the hardest working dudes in the NFL like I’m not going to put a ceiling on him but like like I said you could still be a better player but the production is is relatively the same like that so I it’s all about opportunity you think he’ll get more of an opportunity uh I I’m curious you know maybe the yak increases to your point and you know he gets gets more yards I mean for context too guys like I mean think about Julio Jones like in his career he was in a situation where you could say that he gets fed and you go down his game log after if you want to start basically in 2014 which is when he had his first 1500 yard season he then went to 1,800 but then he went down to 1400 then another 1400 then 1600 but down to 1300 so I think there is going to be points where am and ra it’s hard for pretty much anyone to hold, 1500 yards as their standard so I think there are going to be years when it he does drip dip statistically but then again like if you watch Julio Jones throughout his career he got better and better each year I think coer that’s what you’re saying as well but I think we might push back a little bit as far as the production increase but I just think it’s it’s important for just we don’t act like if Aman Rod doesn’t get 1500 yards like what’s happening I just think no no so that’s like if he doesn’t get it I’m not going to see like we’re still going to have a top five offense and win football games right it’s just I do believe that there’s a chance he he increases and again like I said from the beginning I I think there’s a chance he you go out there and get 1700 and put your name in the Hat for offensive player of the year I’m gonna put a bet on it he’s like plus 1,200 or something like I don’t think that’s a crazy bet to take if he goes out there’s plus 21100 that’s not a crazy bet to take if you like if this offense is his offense and you lost Josh Reynolds I wouldn’t be shocked say if it if it’s plus 1200 that’s not good odds but plus 2100 I can maybe get down with and and look at the guys that he’s ahead of he’s ahead of bejan pukaa Bree Hall AJ Brown Gibbs Jonathan Taylor Garrett Wilson Derrick Henry Josh Allen Kyron Williams like and he’s just sitting there with he’s literally right there oh no he’s a little bit off Justin Jefferson yeah I think if I’m betting on I wouldn’t I don’t hate betting on am ra I if I’m betting on offensive play of the year you look at I would look at opportunity and talent like is this gonna get a [ __ ] ton of opportunities like you know I mean and I’m in ra you could be right Boon like he could go out there and just [ __ ] get like what was what was the offensive player uh the last wide receiver to win what was his yard production you guys remember just think Tyreek Hill didn’t win it last year yeah but Christi I think jerson won last let me look real quick because he had what like what did he have like seven what did um Justin Jefferson so the last person to win it was um wide receiver was Justin Jefferson and Cooper cup yeah Cooper C and that’s it honestly guys if we’re being real just because looking at it like could you see situation where let’s let’s say St Brown’s going off but then we’re all assuming that leaport and the other guys are going to do their thing does Jared G get that before St Brown because you look at last year with the 49ers Christian mcaffry going crazy but then somehow when you look at it Brock py was could have finished with more MVP odds maybe MVP maybe but offensive player of the year I don’t think so okay you don’t I think golf would be higher in the MVP at that point than offensive player they did him dirty with Brock I mean I’m sorry dude Chris mcaffrey should have been the MVP like un hey in 2019 Michael Thomas won offensive player of the year with 1700 yards and in nine touchdowns so it’s not impossible and and same with Justin Jefferson when he won it it was 1,800 yards yeah you’re gonna have to get thatas season like he he set the record for most receptions in a season that’s why I think it’s crazy how many is how many 149 yeah yeah and Cooper cup Triple Crown winner but the thing is with Cooper cup that’s where when we’re going back to the conversation with like the whole Rams and lions thing with like the Rams are past first team that’s why it’s just so hard for me to kind of say that was St Brown I just do think it’s hard for him to do that just because the identity of the Lions but that’s why again he’s the perfect receiver for the Lions because blocking he’s going to do much more work than the Cooper cups or Justin Jeffersons of the world uh real real quick fellas I want to just run through this then we’re going to get to our draft okay because we’re going to get to our defensive player draft uh we’re drafting defenses in the NFC North I can’t I’m excited I I don’t have I don’t we don’t have the graphics to kind of go through it but it’s okay I’ll make the the teams and then we’ll take it from there but uh we’ll all we’ll do it live on the show here but real quick I just love the last part of this article that’s selfishly I do want to show it uh all right yeah the kicking competition I’m being honest no time no problem Tim 21 right golf in the first team offense were really put in a tough situation were put in a really tough situation by Campbell where they had to started their own 30 yard line in just 24 seconds on the clock and ended up being no problem for golfing company connected with same brown for a seven yard gain and Sam Brown was able to get out of bounds stop the clock G then made GF then made made a throw over the middle shout out to1 for uh for will to Williams for 29 yard yards down to the 34 yard line that set up a 52 yard field goal attempt by Michael Badgley that missed wide right and James Turner made James Turner coming for the you see the bottom one too turn overall as he missed both of his field goal attempts in team periods he was short from 54 yards short from 52 during OTAs they gave both kickers a chance from the same distance in situational periods Turner made both kicks from 54 and 52 I thought I thought Bader got his leg up I thought his leg I thought he improved his leg that was that that was that was the rumor Jake B RoR Jake Bates get him on the phone get him on the phone now get now4 OTAs that’s concerning there’s no no pressure short on a 54 like and I I get 54 is dude dude 37 y but if you’re an NFL kicker you got to be nailing 54 yarders in no pads no pressure all right short Badgley you gotta be able to hit a and then 52 he couldn’t hit either and then James Turner just walked out there he’s just like smoked them both easy but Jeff right Jeff we’re crazy for saying that we would love a a great quick kicker we’re crazy for think this guy we’re crazy for going at badgy the money Badger everyone oh he’s just fine you have a good kick come on no he’s broke he ain’t no money back yeah J Rod said it there bring in Jake Bates Turner versus Bates let that be the train he can’t battle move on there’s a reason B has gotten caught twice in one year Jake bade shaking his hands like bird man that’s fair yeah yeah yeah he really is dude I yeah I hope they I I hope they figure it out that Ryan hit it when it counts versus the Rams that is fair that is fair he broken clocks right twice a day and that was only not even twice it was once so that’s even different anoun there so I I don’t know I’m not confident uh I’m not confident at all Jake Bates bring him home uh no pads and missed we need to bring baates in yeah short not just missed he was short on a 54 yard short I want to see how short that that’s so key I want to see how short was it like just short or was it like [ __ ] short like how are you short oh my God got a video of that that would uh that’d be blowing up online again am not saying like oh it’s easy to hit 54 yarders but like this is what we need to know if if we’re keeping him around you need to know can you hit a 50 plus yard field goal and he missed both if you go 0 for two and Jake Turner goes two for two and0 James Turner or James Turner Jake Bates James Turner I just combined them you have to you have to figure that one out James Turner it’s a tough one boys shout on Detroit ls.com his takeaway so go check that out here comes Adam hey Adam your kicker missed a 54 field goal short with no pads and no pressure short a 54 yard field goal short no pressure no pads OTAs just just out there just kicking for fun and you’re short I don’t care if you hit a 54 one in the play yard play one in the playoffs that’s like when the Lions before the Lions said Monty and um and jir Gibbs that’s like me saying guys relax like Craig Reynolds had 100 yards before like relax like he’s he’s he’s a perfect back they don’t need anymore he had 100 yards once like he’s imagine imagine Jared G on like a little like a like a when they’re just doing their warm-ups on just a long route he just throws it like 20 yards short you’re like like you your quarterback would never like you’re this is the NFL yeah 54 yard short we got you I don’t know if he’s oh I love clads all right boys let’s do this draft uh yeah let’s get to the all right we’re doing NFC North we’re drafting defensive players Boer can you you know the positions can you uh play for everyone yeah where I drafting at Boer oh yeah so oh I put it in the prep here so I did a a randomizer Jeff you’re gonna go first overall I will go second clot ended up getting third and gentry you’re fourth so this is so rigged CH you see what’s going on I did a randomizer today so this is what we’re gonna be doing we’re gonna be doing trying to give me a promotion we’re we’re going to be doing two Edge rushers one defensive tackle so basically three linemen with a defensive tackle a linebacker two corners and one safety that’s going to be our our draft I do have a question for guys like like a Brian Branch where are we putting a guy like him is he a safety Brian branch is much more a safety than a corner that’s that’s that I I like that a little bit then I just want make we’re doing so real quick Boon read it off for everyone again I’m sorry two Edge rushers okay one defensive tackle one linebacker one safety in two corners all right and it will be Jeff me clsy and gentry basically the order we have on the screen here that was a randomized thing super random boys oh you’re sitting in my SE now Gentry oh I’m gonna cook they did this on purpose they don’t want me to be great they want me to build the dynasty this is going to be the easiest number one pick I’m sitting there I’m sitting there going many would think this is Troy Weaver drafting K I’m sitting there I’m sitting there going oh my you know I’m going to milk the clock I’m going to milk the clock and then I’m going to submit the pick and you know who I’m submitting you know yeah you know I will be selecting The Edge rusher out of Michigan Aiden Hutchins pushmo pushmo give me Aiden huton he started he started on my defensive line got grit okay interesting got grit I’ve already got my pick Let’s here Boon I’m the trenches we are and I’m I’m gonna do the same thing here probably could argue most likely the the second best yeah maybe there’s another guy I want to go but last time I messed up and and I didn’t go the the the position groups that didn’t have as much as you could pick from and I like the quarterback and I ended up waiting so I’m just going to go to the position group that I think has the least amount and we need say just pick hey let me hey let me talk Gary out of Green Bay keep talking you want to keep talking what are we doing here I’m trying to talk here I’m getting anxious I got I’m pounding the table for my play I thought he was guaranteed gone here CL wants a w he’s he’s I need it I need it I need it I need who you taking talk to us I already said it while you guys were cles he said Gary he said what we doing here I was listening I don’t give you credit Bo that was an easy one I don’t give you any credit I’m kidding sorry that’s not me joking so 8 H and ran Gary two first two picks uh for the defense of n North draft CL you are on the clock listen listen there’s there’s there’s a battle that I’m fighting here I could go with multiple I could go with the trend of defensive ends but I’m not I’m not give me the all pro give me the cornerback in Chicago Mr Jaylen Johnson bring him home bring them home bring Jaylen Johnson home Jaylen Johnson CB1 building it from corner first I I don’t hate it I don’t hate it clsy I don’t hate it did what do you think Gentry all right so I go back to back right yeah yes you do back to back I will take montz sweat out of Pi another one I wanted and then after that I am going to take Jer Alexander he he he won already great two picks oh no he did not I think those are two good picks no he this ain’t over yeah it ain’t over there’s still a lot to go lot of ball to be played left Boon lot of ball clsy you are back up all right this is tough this is another tough one we went corner here and I’m not going to do it again I can’t do that and I think when looking at this board a lot of areas I could go lot of areas I but I thinking about just putting my nuts on the table that’s what got me in trouble last week so yeah you had J Mo at running back well that was later I’m talking about I took darn out right way way way too early so I think all make a pick Who you gonna pick I know I’m thinking I was because now I wanted to look at the graphic it’s GNA get tougher as the graphic goes on but I think what I’m going to do here I’m going to stick to the secondary I’m just going to get the secondary lock down give me Brian Branch give me Brian Branch yeah I’m gonna have all the time in the world dotting you up I’m G have all the [Music] time bets on that defensive line man to man man to man send the house all right the linebacker that we’re getting oh okay what do you what do you what do you think Boone what do you got I’m thinking clock oh it’s hard because once you start because I’m trying to like I’m thinking of like the Vikings Edge rusher and I’m like all right I could think of like one or two but it’s not like anybody that stands out same with the Packers you guys already you guys already lost this why no pick what what happened I didn’t tell you my pick that’s why you’re gonna lose last time you stole my pick this time you don’t know who I’m picking all right I’m going to go oh this is so tough I’m gonna get my safety out of the way okay I’m gonna go in Green Bay give me Xavier McKenna I love that Boone I thought he was gonna fall I love that pick though love it Boone hey thank you thank you CLA so that puts me up and this is a um pretty easy one because Aiden Hutchinson that was my f that was my first pick uh I need someone to force the quarterback out of the pocket and there’s one man in the NFC North that RS Havoc from the middle and you guys know who I’m talking about I will be selecting Kenny Clark D defensive tackle from Green Bay this this man took Kenny Clark before DJ I thought this was a DJ reader pick all the way nope I want someone who can get after the quarterback Kenny Clark I remember watching week four throwing that man on the [ __ ] ground Aid hudon and Kenny Clark you ain’t gon have no time and I ain’t done child please Kenny cark and I go again and I go again again I’m back up can I go again I okay and you know what this one interesting oh my gosh so I love dragging it out I I’ve I’ve spoken I’ve i’ I I’ve spoken to my assistant general manager and we decided that I think it’s best that we take an absolute Field General okay all right just make the pick God damn it yeah I what’s going on here I mean this is unbelievable honest you don’t know who you’re gonna pick I wasn’t ready for back you have no clue who you’re gonna pick know he goes I’m up again [ __ ] oh okay I like dragging and on Knowing damn well he doesn’t know who he’s picking salad this is Van GLE no I’m just kidding okay uh my pick my pick is going to be [ __ ] it all right we’re going with it uh I will be going with TJ Edwards oh that was gonna be my pick TJ Edwards I like it TJ Edwards all right I mean that was we’re building the defense I’m up yeah so I’ve got ran Gary and Xavier mckenny right now at the edge and safety I’m gonna I’m gonna build up huh nothing just go I’m gonna I’m gonna build up this is a good one boys this is good Give me DJ reader okay defensive tackle Allan Gary with with DJ reer Xavier mckin in the back I I really love that team as of right now I love this defense right now well the pick is in for cl cl yeah I already call this early whatever you want to do it but I need an edge and I’m not taking Lucas [ __ ] vaness I think Jonathan greenyard like he’s solid Good Year in Houston but I look on the other side of him give me Dallas Turner I want Dallas Turner and I want about Dall Turner great you don’t want Andrew van GLE I was thinking hey that was the thing if I didn’t go him here I was gonna see if van GLE would fall favor the board a little bit but you know what give me Dallas Turner I want my guy and I want him now pause oh Gentry back to back um so my first pick I will do El mcneel that’s for sure good pick good pick and oh he wasn’t ready for a back no my second pick I’ll do Carlon Davis all right all right all right fair fair fair okay I’m back up right yep you are back up give me a Le we’ll make it quick nobody took a Le yet correct I did I oh you [ __ ] all right let’s think that’s where we are so I need I I need another corner correct still I need corner I need a linebacker and we’re doing two ends right uh yes two ends defensive tackle let me take a scan let me take a scan give me Devonte Wyatt Packers defensive tackle interesting okay underrated player but he’s good he’s good Wyatt okay Georgia man Georgia man Georgia dog all right Boer I’m up again you are all right this this is I think I have to make a move here um oh this is tough there’s there’s not a lot of good Corners in this division is there outside the top three huh having two the top three yeah yeah I mean you do um I’m gonna do this I mean I guess I don’t know I don’t I don’t know if he’s not gonna be there I know who my corner is I’m waiting on him just to fall hey Lucas you want while Boer is thinking you want want me to tell you where you [ __ ] up what do you think drafting a defensive tackle there because you everyone else had one so that guy you could have got him whenever yeah it’s good point is true that’s what I did last week with the with the other one um when I did that I want my guys though hey that’s fair should let you know all right Boon what do you you got I’m gonna do the I’m gonna do this the second guy in Chicago okay I’m gonna take the second I’m gonna take Tyreek Stevenson okay well that that puts me in a an interesting position um and I’m going to select uh yeah actually I’m gonna do it I’m gonna go uh Preston Smith from Green Bay on the other side of fine fine defensive end and then I’m going to take terion Arnold oh my gosh you did it Tim me so there’s my uh my corner so I got I Ty St we’re building the defense boys we’re building the defense all right now Boer um I’m back up again this is hey this is a gauntlet if I’ve ever felt one before this is Tyreek Stevenson our whole we were like Brad Holmes in the draft room like Arnold when terion fell we’re like let’s [ __ ] go come on dude don’t let me you already took Preston Smith too I did he’s a dog he’s with Aiden and Kenny Clark all right I’m gonna go I’m gonna go linebacker here I’m going to go Alex anzelone all right good solid coli all right all right um I’m just going to make sure I get in my opinion probably the fourth best corner in this division off the board give me Eric Stokes from Green Bay all right hey that man when R they traded rul dogos for a reason that man good no I hey very fine Georgia one of the only Georgia quarterbacks actually has done really anything um not a bad player Gentry got back to back all right um I am gonna do did anyone take Kirby Joseph yet nope nope actually I’ll do taine Edmonds as my linebacker okay all right and then I will grab uh Jonathan greenyard is across a that’s brutal that was gonna be mine break again dude he’s getting a bad break oh God hold on let me scan again type it in here let’s get in the books I’m trying to think of the defensive ends that are still there I’m going defensive no I think J already took G van GLE didn’t he no I got uh I got sweat and Greener ah give me G what are we doing here bring d i I’ll take some Viking Adge rusher for sure that hey the value here with Alex Van gingle I thought he’s been off the board I would have took him last round let’s go I’m I’m happy with this favorite Pi of the draft bad spot here boys I don’t think I have I don’t know who else to draft here this is bad I’ve just got all backups I’m gonna have to take here no I got I got I got some I’m ready you you let it go I got two position I’m knocking on my last two right here yeah but I think you just need linebacker right no I need a corner and a safety yeah oh man because I need a corner too that means you going to take someone that I’m thinking of should I do it you’re not taking my guy so I don’t really he doesn’t mind I don’t mind all right I’m gonna do this probably give me the Detroit Lions corner and it’s rraw oh okay thank you I don’t know who else is on the board here I will go iffy melaan wo at safety oh for safety and then I’m going um a Meek Robertson in my other Corner oh Meek wow hey wait a second wow we’re dominating boys we’re dominating we’re dominating I’m stuck in a bad spot right now guys this isn’t good for Boer over here I need an edge rushan I don’t think there’s a good Edge left out I I don’t think there’s a good you’re gonna have to take you’re gonna have to take uh kamish take matd bets take Matty bets BR what you still have James Houston there yeah James Houston is but I mean him or Marcus Davenport nine sacks in 11 games not for good there’s actually no on business come on L man there’s actually no no Lucas vanas what did he have like three sacks last year hey hey Davenport Houston bring him home BR I think you have to by default he’s the best one out there Marcus Davenport I’ll do it oh no oh no I mean that’s literally all that’s left he’s he’s probably the best Edge left in the NFC North out of our draft I just clazy you’re up has anybody taken Jack Campbell no no no give me Jack Campbell what about you Gentry I was about to take Edan Cooper I think we’re done after Gentry right yeah my roster is full I’m in safety there’s still a good one out there that nobody’s taking I don’t think anybody will um I’ll do Kevin by oh [ __ ] no I wasn’t saying him oh there’s no more PI right Josh Mattel from the Vikings is a [ __ ] dog brother brother turn on if you if you like uh what’s his face from the Browns uh AO Co Joker yeah J you like Josh matelis Josh matelis is a dog okay so let’s go through our rosters I actually don’t think I have a bad one dude you start screw Adam Gentry start and then tell me who you got and then the check and rect we’ll do it one by one so we’re not like overloading everyone with like all right at Edge I have Montes sweat Jonathan greenyard at uh defensive tackle I have a linebacker I have train Edmonds Corner I have jier Alexander and carlan Davis and then safy Kevin Bard okay it’s pretty good team fine one cleaned up for sure good for me so for me I have the Vikings defensive ends I have um Andrew van GLE and Dallas Turner defensive tackle I have Devonte Wyatt Corners I have Jaylen Johnson and Eric Stokes linebacker I have Jack Campbell and safety I have Brian Branch not bad you got you got g g is a key got some of the great whites out there with Jack Campbell and Van gink the great whites are swimming I Boer now you go I’m glad you have hey Jee you have your number one fan base out in the crowd tonight Adam bayun man he doesn’t even know your team I’m gonna be honest I’m not even trying to say this I think I have the best defense dude yeah we’ll see I’ve got at safety starting at safety Xavier mckin dog Corner underrated a little bit Tyreek Stevenson out of Chicago another dog Corner out of Detroit Lions Andis rraw dog linebacker secondary second best linebacker GNA be a pro bowler in the NFC this year Alex anzelone dog he’s a dog he’s a dog defensive tackle in the middle demanding the middle Detroit’s own DJ reer baby on the edge Michigan man ran Gary and on the other end good Michigan man a guy that’s gonna have a big year this year double digit sacks no no he’s not don’t quote me on that Marcus Davenport dog we just run bunch of dogs here don’t care about theg defense grit and dogs Adam B hey secondary bar chick I’ll tell you that much huh that secondary’s barbecue chicken the secondary no I don’t care these dudes are about to Xavier mckenny Tyreek go here we go Jeff here we go hold on your number one fan Adam bayun Jeff Jeff Jeff I’ll tell you right now I built my hey I use my philosophy build From The Trenches all right and then I built From The Trenches all right H Aiden Hutchinson Preston Smith and Kenny Clark as my defensive line y’all y’all y’all ain’t touching that no one sniff that in this no one Aiden you doubling him okay Preston Smith’s Gonna Get You oh you want to double him Kenny Clark he’s G make the quarterback run outside I think you hey they’re fine players but you’re gassing up the Kenny Clark pick a little too much now he had eight sackson hey Kenny Clark very fine player but I’m sure if you ask a lot of Packers fans they’re like yeah Devonte Wyatt’s probably that guy he gonna be oh so now potential okay I’m not even Kenny Clark you can see it the man’s getting slow he’s the hill the hill is coming down well so a bad year I’ll take eight sacks okay so he had eight sacks all right he had eight sack not a very fine player very fine player okay so that’s my defensive line Aiden hudon Preston Smith Kenny Clark we got we got a couple dudes here all right at linebacker got TJ Edwards absolute tackling machine sir all right safety we got e eitu malaan Wu he can cover anybody length size get have the quarterback he’s going to get a couple picks too all right that that’s that’s the guy on the back end I trust him all right nothing’s getting past iffy cornerback we could improve certainly uh CB1 we got Teran Arnold he’s a rook he’s a rook but he’s good player and he’s gonna get comfortable he’s got that confidence that Swagger he’s gon go out there and give me Justin Jefferson give me Justin Jefferson and on the other side of tan Arnold we got a Meek Robertson he’s not the biggest guy got a lot of heart got a lot of heart oh but my guys can’t have heart okay you come at my secondary what we doing here I trust terion over Tyreek Stevenson why the silence bro I just don’t know what you want me to say dude he just stared at me it’s good stuff all right to be fair Boer you taking Tyreek Stevenson I thought you were going Teran arold 100% I didn’t I thought Stevenson I’m being real can I be honest and my wide receivers are putting up 50 on that defense that’s fair if I’m just being honest I’m not arguing that not arguing that even though I think my offense is very gritty we got you know Josh Jacobs he’ probably be hurt by week six but you know we’ll figure it out I got CLE Herbert last week boring dude it’s it’s I could draft like I know I know dentry got J A but Jaylen Johnson and Brian branch and Eric Stokes you got a secondary what’s your dline again it’s it’s uh Dallas Turner Devonte Wyatt and Van gink and we got Jack Campbell Roman out there little QB spy action send him up the a gap Gentry has the best defense very fundamental team look it he’s mad he’s mad because people are saying No it’s it’s it’s Gentry like if you put it on paper Gentry is the best team I disagree I think I have better players you don’t you’re secondary and then no offense because it’s a lion secondary but like like you just you just drafted you drafted you drafted terion Arnold who hasn’t played a snap yet which I think he’s going to be wi Corner number two he’s going to be Corner two exactly I think he he’s supposed to be Corner one Meek Robertson who’s gonna be in a rotation and iffy who who’s in a rotation of safeties as well I think Gentry has if he’s not good now what he’s good but I think Gentry has a better overall roster um okay I think I had the best defensive line you want to give the secondary to Gentry I’ll take the defensive line I think I have I think I do agree with that je I’ll give you the secondary Gentry shake shake your hands on it you can you can have the secondary I’ll have the defensive line there you go yep Gentry’s offense was incredible though so hey we’re gonna struggle but we’re gonna get after him that’s the plan here we gotta get after the quarterback all right that’s all we’re doing here uh nor I have Alexander Carlton Davis and Kevin by he’s got some he’s got lock down got lock down guys I look at I got the best safety the best corner out you put him with some dogs so Kevin byard’s burnt toast see I had I have Aiden huderson and Boer didn’t like he doesn’t like him now he doesn’t he not a big Hut guy when I drafted him I thought I was gonna pick Hutch if you didn’t I don’t know what you’re talking about Get You Gotta Give me some love then I got Hutch yeah that’s great that’s awesome we all have one good player we went in the first we all drafted in the first half well Gentry took montz so what do you like huton or montz S I think montz is a great pick as well both yeah I get it I think hutson’s better that is my opinion all right so I but I can’t argue with amek Robertson that he might get he might get bullied on the outside he might he might he might get bullied on the outside but that’s fair and we both took Bears linebackers so yeah and I would probably take yours I’d rather have TJ Edwards yeah TR I they’re both good though um all right well we got four we got four minutes that I like doing it’s fun it’s the offseason we have fun like now we drafted our full squads I got to get a graphic of like our full offense and defense so we can like match up the teams uh because that I gota we got to work on that uh because I think Gentry’s offense I’m I got a more gritty offense Gentry’s got he’s gonna score 150 points so that’s a problem you know but I got a pretty good defensive coordinator you know I’m I got out there got spags out there I got spags yeah I do gots all right uh well we got three minutes left uh everyone vote or either drop your questions we got three minutes I don’t know okay we’ll just get to the questions uh L&W mailbag over under am Monte Williams dumbass drowning next time it rains like one of those dumbass Birds jees I don’t know what the over under yeah I don’t know what the over under is’s no like like time that takes them to drown or something there’s no that was more so like of a a statement but just threw over under at the front uh I think Monty Williams stays another year the very minimum that’s what I think uhw says lol l I’m surpris you read it uh etn mailbag isn’t it funny that when picking jayen Johnson Lucas hails him as an all pro yet as an all pro all of a sudden it doesn’t matter I found it hilarious I never said that Kiren wasn’t an all proo but when you look at Jaylen Johnson being an all proo I think Jaylen Johnson was probably the best corner in the NFL this year I think it’d be hard to dispute that and KY Williams based on production is but I think when you break it down to the skill set Jaylen Johnson can man you up can play zone kyen Williams is very good I just don’t think he has the talent that Jaylen Johnson does at the quarterback position so great KY Williams is a very good running back I’m not saying that but when you start saying that he’s better than saquon Barkley off a one year I think that’s [ __ ] ridiculous wow wow wow tend to agree with him uh I tend to agree with them uh you meaning you Anakin says mailbag can we put together a crunch time fantasy league thought it’ be it would be good uh yeah we will for sure we’ll probably do a giveaway in it whoever wins it and if we win it then whoever comes in second or third or whoever the whatever view if we’re doing if we’re doing a Fantasy if one of us win it we’re taking the prize it’s a fantasy league I mean fantasy league I’m not playing for second not a prize yeah if it’s money or something like whoever wins it wins well we wouldn’t win anything it’d be us giving it away so we would just keep it at that point yeah you get paid everyone I mean if you want if you want to play in our fantasy league like everyone’s gonna it’s a pot of money everyone’s gonna like hey you got to pay this much to get in that’s that’s what a fantasy league is well I get I mean yeah I was gonna I was I was suggesting more of a fre brother this is fantasy league this isn’t handout right I We’re Playing for Keeps here jentre you feel me sounds like Jeff scared Jun we’re going to have a paid league with our friends but I’m talking about like a competitive league with the people are viewers that like I would love to do a paid league with the view some of the viewers some of the loyal viewers get a little competitive yeah I just don’t want we can reach out to like there’s a bunch of like companies that we can reach out to that can get us like a weekly fantasy league that you can join and we could all like compete for the week like everybody in the chat and stuff like I think we could do a full season fantasy with some of the guys in the chat or guys I’m saying there’s going to be people that like will over the season will be like want to to do it and they’re too late to the league Oh yeah talk about later for sure yeah I like the I like the idea though but hey like if if we’re if we’re in the league and we’re playing versus them and it’s like we’re just in first and it’s like why are we going to even try if there’s no thing for us just to have like you know I want I guess answer that later in the year you feel me was using it more of a way to like it’s a win-win it’s a we get to play with people that support us and we give back you know and then we have our own that like you know we’re fighting to the death over cash on but if you want to take if you want to fight to the death of some viewers go ahead Boer take marketing 101 you don’t take money from your fan I know boer’s like [ __ ] him we’re taking dud I love giving away the giving away money and things I I feel like I’m always like oh let’s do this I’m a nice person yeah that’s why you just man just I don’t know dude fantasy just sometimes in my head f i i get competitive a little bit I love fantasy football yeah our fantasy league with our old uh yeah I sold I I sold the bag in that one but hey hey won hey who won Against All Odds Against All Odds did you win it I think he beat he beat me he beat me was that the one that Spenny like traded his entire team because he was mad is that the one that was you that did that that was no no no he did that after I traded one player he did L him and L he traded his whole team to lent and guess who beat lens in the semi-final to go to the championship this guy when lens had like every single great player in the league and and then Gentry beat me I beat brillan too the one who Jeff gave his team to so yeah you beat I beat L I gave AJ Brown for an undisclosed cash amount 50 bucks it was it was an undisclosed cash amount uh that that man gave away gave away AJ round for four Foot Longs from Subway I you know what I I can’t confirm or deny if it was a potentially a foot long from Subway uh I somebody’s good man you know what I don’t at that point in time the league was over dude no one was [ __ ] playing besides like you guys no one cared and the no one cared about that League until the second that went through well that’s that’s yeah that’s that they ran with it they ran Jeff made money in a free League somehow some way yeah hey be a dog all right we’ll see you guys uh have a great weekend uh we 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Just got home from work, time for some Lions news !
Monty firing can be delayed because they are trying to buy him out, and that is more complicated.
i hate this bashing the record of casey and troy for the previous 3 years, not to make excuses, but people forget that they were actively TANKING hard. they just lost badly in the draft. well, it was their decision to rely on the lotto, got unlucky or screwed. but this is a results league. if they had gotten at least cade + paolo or chet, things probably would've been different, and accelerated their acquisition of better players.
Frank tank from the East side don't waste Gibbs during the season don't give Gibbs all the touches man you need a dual threat Montgomery is sick he's awesome don't ruin a Good thing Man Jeff does not know what he's talking about go lions 😎
Troy was bad but Van Gundry was absolute trash
Montey took over a team that had a mostly healthy Cade which was not true and did worse. He was awful Corey, your take is wrong. Montey should be fired.