anyone reason why fans aren’t GM’s. This is pure stupidity.
TruthSayerFu
Nobody values the 21th this year and the pels will be good next year so that pick will be bad too. This isn’t nfl I think this is a very fair trade when you realize how little those 2 1st are worth. Cavs saving you a lot of money too by taking Ingram.
MurphyGraham
Horrible
Ashamed-Lime3594
Id probably do this trade if I were the Pels, but giving up those two young guards would hurt a lot.
Hawk and Dys have a TON of potential and are already in a high tier in their respective specialities (defense and 3 pointers).
That being said, Allen and Murray contribute to fixing our most glaring problems and I could see both complimenting Zion
getr12-
So Cavs would trade Allen for BI straight up?
Briguy_fieri
We traded BI with 1 year left for Jarret Allen, who I like.
This alone is awful return
Eventide718
So 4 1’s and Ingram? Geez
Pel’s should get 4 1’s for Ingram.
SelfLoathingLionsFan
Even disregarding my well-documented stance about not liking Dejounte with the Pels, I don’t actually think this trade would be too far off… except BI should be the most valuable player in that entire deal.
Some are looking at it as BI for Allen and then Dyson/Hawk/picks for Dejounte. But BI alone should be worth Allen + 1 or 2 picks, or Dejounte + 1 or 2 picks. Put them together in the same package to acquire both, and we would then have to add a few additional assets, as you show – just not as many, given BI’s singular value.
Problem is, these trades usually work best when there are 2 high-level players (with one being a tier or 2 above the other) being traded for each other with a 3rd team roped in to make things work in exchange for draft picks/young players. But I don’t think ATL necessarily wants these either, as they’re more likely trying to retool instead of rebuild (they’re missing some of their own picks in the next few drafts). They would probably want a BI-caliber player if they’re losing Dejounte (probably losing picks, too, if they’re acquiring BI).
The only way this trade makes sense from a value-standpoint is if ATL blows it all up and 1 of Allen or Dejounte is a tier above BI as a player. The reality is, they’re the same tier at best, so BI shouldn’t be sold as if he’s the one getting upgraded over.
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This is terrible. Giving up way too much
anyone reason why fans aren’t GM’s. This is pure stupidity.
Nobody values the 21th this year and the pels will be good next year so that pick will be bad too. This isn’t nfl I think this is a very fair trade when you realize how little those 2 1st are worth. Cavs saving you a lot of money too by taking Ingram.
Horrible
Id probably do this trade if I were the Pels, but giving up those two young guards would hurt a lot.
Hawk and Dys have a TON of potential and are already in a high tier in their respective specialities (defense and 3 pointers).
That being said, Allen and Murray contribute to fixing our most glaring problems and I could see both complimenting Zion
So Cavs would trade Allen for BI straight up?
We traded BI with 1 year left for Jarret Allen, who I like.
This alone is awful return
So 4 1’s and Ingram? Geez
Pel’s should get 4 1’s for Ingram.
Even disregarding my well-documented stance about not liking Dejounte with the Pels, I don’t actually think this trade would be too far off… except BI should be the most valuable player in that entire deal.
Some are looking at it as BI for Allen and then Dyson/Hawk/picks for Dejounte. But BI alone should be worth Allen + 1 or 2 picks, or Dejounte + 1 or 2 picks. Put them together in the same package to acquire both, and we would then have to add a few additional assets, as you show – just not as many, given BI’s singular value.
Problem is, these trades usually work best when there are 2 high-level players (with one being a tier or 2 above the other) being traded for each other with a 3rd team roped in to make things work in exchange for draft picks/young players. But I don’t think ATL necessarily wants these either, as they’re more likely trying to retool instead of rebuild (they’re missing some of their own picks in the next few drafts). They would probably want a BI-caliber player if they’re losing Dejounte (probably losing picks, too, if they’re acquiring BI).
The only way this trade makes sense from a value-standpoint is if ATL blows it all up and 1 of Allen or Dejounte is a tier above BI as a player. The reality is, they’re the same tier at best, so BI shouldn’t be sold as if he’s the one getting upgraded over.