Donovan Clingan, Matas Buzelis + More Trail Blazers Draft Targets w/ Corey Tulaba @NoCeilingsNBA

Donovan Clingan, Matas Buzelis + More Trail Blazers Draft Targets w/ Corey Tulaba @NoCeilingsNBA

in today’s show Cory TBO from No Ceilings joins the program we talk all things Trailblazers in the NBA draft you’re not going to want to miss this one welcome to lockon Blazers let’s get into it you are locked on Trailblazers your daily Portland Trailblazers podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day what up world it’s your pass first point guard and Trailblazers reporter Mike Richmond you’re listening to another episode of Locked on Blazers part of lockon podcast network available wherever you get podcasts and also on YouTube thanks for making this show your first listen coming at you each and every weekday Monday through Friday so make it a part of your daily routine make your first listen tell your friends to do the same Today Show very special one joined by First Time guest to the program Cory Tula from the no from the good Folks at No Ceilings doing great draft work Cory how you doing Mike thank you for having me on man I am fantastic it’s draft season we’re mere weeks away so all of the research that we at No Ceilings have been doing for not just this year but now multiple years now on some of these these guys is um about to you know culminate in a one night event that you know is our favorite night of the year so I’m two nights now baby two night that’s right you’re right two nights um well two one night and one late afternoon on the East Coast where I’m from afternoon what is with the afternoon it’s it’s like a 1:00 start on the west coast on a Thursday or something like don’t they know I have a day job what what’s going on here I look I am taking it I’m going you know what as an East Coast guy who anytime I get to go to the West Coast and you know like I was in Portland for the Nike hoop Summit a couple months ago and I was like is the late night game over at 10 p.m. and not starting at 10. what that game might be over at 9:15 baby out of there so for me the the draft’s going to be over by like 700 p.m. on that Thursday great great yeah I I I thought they were making it two nights to be a television event and then they made it in the middle of the day so I don’t get it but in any case we we’re here to talk not about um interesting TV ratings from the good people at Disney but um or the bad people at Disney hard to say but but draft stuff uh No Ceilings released a a mock draft today well this is actually Monday’s show uh we may be recording this a little bit early hard to say but on Friday uh uh No Ceilings the group over at No Ceilings the team there released a mock draft let’s start there um in at the Blazers have seven in 14 in the lottery as well as 34 and 40 at seven you have the Blazers taking Matas Bellis in some ways falling quotee un quotes I it’s hard to know with like draft range with anybody in this draft um but like falling to seven why do you like modest to the Portland or do you like modest to the Portland I know it’s maybe not your uh your pick all on its own yeah you know I’m a little um lower on all of the ignite guys um so you know if if I was picking I’m not 100% certain that modest would be my selection but you know the way we do things at No Ceilings is the good you know aspect of having so many people on the team you know we it’s not just one person’s opinion weighing too heavily so we first I will say say that I know that the Blazers like Modis um he’s a guy that again if you look at the kind of forwards that they have you know he is he has a lot of qualities that they they do like and if you’re a a a person who believes that that shot is g to come around right like if he is gonna shoot it more like he did his senior year at Sunrise Christian rather than you know the percentage that he shot in the G League then I think you have reason to be optimistic about the type of player that modest can be you know I I know that fron is a guy who is typically his comparison because you know white guys that are tall and big white gu dri big white guy dri but I actually think that he has like a potential outcome to be more like a a Jaden McDaniels uh because I I was really impressed by his defensive playmaking and his ability to move and as he gets stronger I think that’s that’s kind of an Avenue in a player that I think he can emulate so you know if you’re building out a blazer team in the in the fashion that they are and obviously they believe in scoot um in a big way still uh you know scoot’s gonna be awesome shayen is an incredible uh prospect that I think is gonna have a big breakout year next year ant Simons is one of the maybe most underrated players in the entire league because he’s hidden right now but this dude can score with the best of them uh and even if you know ultimately what if they move from Simons like everyone’s trying to trade him to the magic now whatever the case is like if you’re going Shaden and Scoot like modest has a third guy or a fourth option as an offensive player is a really nice luxury to have potentially one day and I think that the way that I view this draft is not so much that if even if you’re swinging you’re not necessarily swinging to hit the ball over the fence you might be swinging to maybe it’s a ground rule double maybe it still goes over the fence but it just takes a bounce first and I think that Modis you know out of some of the swings there is a little bit of a safety of floor because he has good size you know he has he’s shown more as a shooter than some of the other guys he can dribble without you know dribbling the ball off his foot and um you know some of the passing stuff their flashes they’re not totally fleshed out with the decision-making but there’s a lot to like there and I think just you know with the Intel that we’ve heard and just the fact that we know that as far as archetypes go it’s something they they truly value I think the way that our mock played out with some of the other guys that we really like to Portland I think monis would be a good fit there okay let’s let’s run through this exercise though on the No Ceilings mock alexar goes first King Kong Donovan King and jumps up to two and a shocker with the Wizards take clinging it too the Wizards could do whatever they want they literally have a totally Clean Slate they can do whatever they want um uh Houston goes re sheeper at three four is reash to the Spurs The French Connection five uh D connect six Stefan Castle so with that on the board um if if you’re there you said this wasn’t your pick you’re at seven who sort of who’s still there nickel toic Rob Dillingham Cody Williams Ron Holland um th those types who would you be interested at seven yeah uh I mean at seven I’m I’m a big topic guy and but it is a tricky fit I you know I I think that if you’re going to invest in scoot you really have to invest in him and you have to trust him to be that kind of lead ball handle you know I mean I’m uh I’m a Big Bub Carrington fan which is a bit out of left field he’s not typically mocked you know this high but I think a 65 68 you know combo guard who shot 50% on Long twos and is one of the best pull-up Shooters and is one of the youngest domestic born prospects is a really interesting player um but yeah in this scenario clinging I mean um uh bazis is kind of the area where you go as far as Fitz go yeah I like it but I also like you know maybe kle wear there if um you know I’m I’m personally a big zachi guy uh I think you might be able to get him at the second Lotto selection still uh so maybe you play that game but this is an area where your tiar start kind of jumbling into who fits me best now um you know I I mean for us Dalton’s been a popular guy that we’ve we’ve mocked to to Portland I heard he had a great workout there too but if he’s off the board I I do think Modas is a pretty good upside swing and I know for for a fact that Portland the way that they view the draft is that they’re going to bet on potential that is something that that they’re committed to to doing um so I as far as upside swings go like comparably yeah maybe you get Tristan to Silva at 14 but he’s kind of who he is right like he’s right you know like so modest can maybe be more than that but um yeah I’d probably go with one of those or I’d go with Cody Williams Because I’m still a big believer in Cody as far if I’m looking for that kind of comboy uh forward yeah so in in terms of like them betting upside does that mean you feel like it’s pretty unlikely they take the Collegiate seniors connect in Ed like do you think those are they’re off the board based on that read I don’t I don’t I because I still think that connect has untapped potential because he had a really uh unique Journey it’s he’s not just an older prospect that has played at Tennessee for five years and he just you know he’s just stronger bigger all that stuff you know he he was a Joo guy and then he found his way to Mid major and then um you know he he blew up at Tennessee but he’s he’s been one of these guys on an upward trajectory where it wasn’t just a straight line though so I I still think there are ways in which he’s going to improve his game another guy again he had a great workout with Portland from from what I’ve heard and they like a lot now you know Edie I I think he’s just so productive that at 14 if Ed’s there it’s one of those things where like you you can play it a little safer at the 14th pick right because maybe some of those the swings that you’re taking it’s like it’s cool to swing but are you swinging at a pitch that’s in the dirt right like sometimes you’re going to that’s that’s what you have to convince yourself of um but as far as I mean look as as far as upside swings go I didn’t even mention tjon salon so you know that that’s another guy with a lot of hype and also kind of fits what they like and his measurables you know now that um you know the European prospects were out in triso Italy we have those measurements I mean you know 610 72 wingspan off ball guy he’s he’s another interesting guy there’s there’s look Blazer’s got options even in the scenario that we presented uh on our mock draft Yeah I do think they have options I think seven and 14 in maybe some other drafts you like ah we missed the top tier of guys it’s so wide like it’s so wide from after the top generally the top two you see are for most most MOX most Services have have SAR and rasay and then it’s really wide open like from three on down it’s really wide open um I wanted you mentioned Nichol toic I want to talk about the the pick at 14 on the No Ceilings Mock and a couple other folks um because there’s some reporting that the blaz are going to have a pretty juicy workout next Tuesday I want to talk about that one um join us in that second segment won’t you first I want to tell you that Today’s Show is brought to you by eBay Motors passion drive and patience it’s the formula for winning championships and it’s also what keeps your ride or die alive eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your 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higher on the team than I am um which is which is funny but that that’s sometimes how it works um maybe proximity has has has worn me down a little bit um but I I’m interested topic is interesting because like you know so young he’s 18 um if he is you know he he potentially be the best offensive player in the draft just because of his field creation and and just big ball handler with size but he’s not like a non-shooter primary next to scoot seems like a really bad fit that’s not what you would want um but then the other wrinkle is is that he has a partially torn ACL and I’m not a doctor but that sounds like someone who has a torn ACL and that they’re softening the softening the reporting I I don’t know how I don’t know how acl’s work necessarily but partially torn and torn seems like the same thing to me he could be a red shirt guy right like he could miss an this entire season if if he go undergo surgery apparently he’s going to come to the US and meet with some team doctors and uh the way the new CBA Works he will have to release his Medicals to I believe the top 15 teams in the draft so folks will know how much does that information change your opinion of him um you know even outside of the fit with the Blazers not too much I mean you know if the Medicals came back where it was like yeah you know this is a standard run-of the mil ACL injury um I’d be like okay like to me he’s all of these guys none of them are leading you to the championship next year you know like even the dton connect or a Zach EDI you’re not winning so if if you believe in Nico a topic he’s worth waiting for and look if you’re if you’re worried about winning games like next year is not the year because next year’s draft is super strong so like you know you might miss a year at tow pitch but then you’re going to get nicoa topic and Dylan Harper or Ace Bailey or you know one of these other guys Nolan tayori um who made a a huge impression at the hoop Summit in Portland right so like to me it doesn’t change much if if it’s just an ACL injury he’s young he’s 18 um Medical Science has advanced a lot as far as acl’s go and how players recover since Derrick Rose tore his ACL and completely had his career derailed right so I think that it shouldn’t really weigh too heavily on what the long game is fans I understand you draft a player you want to see that player play but hey like we see a lot of these guys who read shirt that Year Chad holgren Joel Blake Griffin Ben Simmons all of these guys come back and they hit the ground running right away because they’ve been around the team for a year they understand what it takes to be a professional outside of actually playing in the games they they know the system you know it’s much smoother transition so it’s to me it it wouldn’t even it wouldn’t be a bad thing it would just be disappointing as a fan for the fact that you want to watch the guy that you drafted but as far as like am i g to drop him down my board because he tore his ACL no it’s not something that is too worrisome for me because that’s all the information I have right it’s just partially torn and if that’s if it’s just partially torn it’s going to heal and he’ll be fine one day right right yeah I I I think like for the blaz specifically they are a team that can take a season um and um yeah they’re they’re a team that if they really believe in the talent a retri season is like a to totally reasonable approach with him okay uh No Ceilings at 14 has a Blazers taken kesan George and reportedly Kean George has come to a pretty juicy workout this is from uh Jonathan werman over at bleach report who says hearing about a big this is I’m reading uh tweet that he sent out um or whatever you call the posts on those website I call it I call it a tweet on the tweet he sent out um he’s hearing about a three Onre workout next week in Portland that’s supposed to feature Ron Holland tjon Salon Ryan dun Zack Edy Eva Mei and kesan George that’s a fun that’s a fun little six-pack right there that’s a lottery six-pack right there um sell me on George and then we can talk about these other guys and maybe what how they might fit fit with the Blazers yeah 6869 ball handling guard that shot 40 % from three um and maybe is still growing like was not supposed to be a oneandone prospect and just kind of like got an opportunity on a really bad Miami team like they were one of the worst teams in college basketball from an enjoyment perspective where you’re like oh let me let me turn on some hurricanes basketball like you would never do that unless it was your job to do that and he was the guy that stood out as like wow you know but you know who’s interesting this Kean George kid so I mean when you look at the way that the game is played now position L you know you want to switch ability you want guys that can play on the ball you want guys that can play off the ball like when you just watch him operate with the ball in his hands like they’re just kinesthetically the way he moves you’re like he kind of looks like Brandon Ingram a little bit now he doesn’t have that athleticism he doesn’t have that burst he’s you know he that’s stuff that he’s kind of lacking but with the growth spurt that he’s gone through and the body transformation there’s probably still a little bit more upside to improve athletically he’s not going to all of a sudden be shading Shar right you know jumping out of gym but there’s some room to improve there but at the end of the day he’s still 68 he still shot 40% from three on like good volume and you look at the stroke super clean he’s got some passing feel and if you’re going to look at guys that you want to be able to play with the ball in your hands but also be able to play off of scoot and ant and Shaden then this is a guy who can do that and he has a positional size that theoretically he could play next to all of those guys all at one time in some smaller ball lineups um you know there’s a uh you know Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon you know relationship there with gavone was the guy who called Miami about him gavone you know obviously used to have the relationship with Mike schmidtz so who knows I’m sure he’s got great Intel on him from that perspective um but he’s just for somebody who is raw he’s very polished and I think that’s really intriguing yeah and I will just say Blazer fans are like six foot eight you say taller like taller than six fo five are are are they are they to add players of such with such a massive frame um yeah I I’m I typically see George in other mocks a little deeper but he’s a first round guy like everyone agrees first- round Talent like I said the draft is so wide open that if like the general consensus is that this dude’s going to go 22 like the There is almost no difference in those spots in this draft at least it seems that way speaking on consensus I honestly like I’ve come to the point in in my career where I the consensus thing is just kind of like funny more than anything else like sure did was cam Whitmore the consensus 20th pick last year you know these things not you know like the there’s a chaotic nature to the draft um and you know obviously there’s only x amount of players to get drafted so these players are going to be in certain ranges typically but all it takes is one team to like a player or a bunch of teams to dislike a player or not even dislike a player maybe maybe cam Whitmore was the second guy on all of these teams boards but their first guy was still available and all of a sudden he draws so I you know I wouldn’t pay too much attention especially in this draft to the consensus feeling because I think it’s going to be chaotic yeah I also think in general there is an echo chamber thing with this stuff is like um you know you see one of the big big big creators out there a bigger name make make a mock draft you say well I have that dude at 38 and he has him at 19 well I gotta bump him up I gotta bump him up you know like I I gotta and I think I think you get that not that like everyone does that but I think there is a tendency um for a tendency for group think to sort of particularly this time of year as we head into about three weeks left before the draft a tendency for group thinks to kind of coales because everyone wants to be kind of right um as opposed to like some folks actually are really the other way right they’re like I’m sticking to my guns no matter what like I I really believe in this one French point guard um but it’s uh let’s talk about some other guys who are going to be in that um in that workout because you mentioned you’re a little bit lower on on on Ron Holland he he’s someone who I think could be a target for the Blazers and and I’m curious about Eva Mei as well uh let’s talk about them uh to close the show and also we’ll touch on some some other workout stuff I got I got some news for you join us in that third segment won’t you first I want to tell you that Today’s Show is brought to you by 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your job for free at linkedin.com locked on NBA that’s linkedin.com lockon NBA to post your job for free terms and conditions [Music] apply still a pass vers point guard I’m still Mike Richmond still chatting here with Cory tilo from No Ceilings okay so the Blazers have this week they worked out D connect and on I was told by uh member of the Blazers PR staff that they were also going to hold a workout on Friday June 7th and then I reached out on Friday morning because I hadn’t announced it yet and I said hey what’s what’s up he said no workout today and and um or there wouldn’t be no availability today it was the language a little unclear in the text but from what I understand the Blazers may have held a workout today they just didn’t hold a media availability and they didn’t publicize it and that follows a relatively um a trend that seems to be popping up this week uh according to ESPN’s Jonathan gavone the uh Blazers also held a private workout for Donovan kingan um the difference in private and public workouts is probably just preference of the agent it’s not like super meaningful it’s just like the agent says no don’t put my dude’s name on here if you want to work him out you can but it’s like we’re not going to you’re not going to do the whole riar roll and you’re not going to bring Mike out to The Practice Facility to talk to him that’s what they’re preventing they’re preventing me from asking the hard-hitting questions um I wonder with like with do you think kingan is a fit there before we get to the other guys I know I I said I teased that I want to talk Ron Holland and Mei but do you think Clingan is a fit there and what are your thoughts on I know you’re an ed guy are you is Ed the third Center on your list or or or uh clingan’s kingan’s my number one Prospect in the entire draft wow okay s so if the Blazers were to get him at seven this would be a huge hit for you yeah and I believe that in ESPN’s latest mock that’s who they had mocked to um Portland yeah I well one he is absolutely massive you know I’m an East Coast guy I’m out in New York I’ve seen Yukon a lot over the last couple of years and you know last year I was more on the skeptical side of kinging he was playing 15 minutes a game you know and it’s like he was awesome in those minutes but you’re like hey can I see you play more than 15 maybe if I’m going to take you in the lottery like why are you only playing 15 obviously he had a great player in front of him Yukon has built this culture and you know potentially could be a dynasty depending on what happens with with Hurley right but when I saw him this year he had added elements to his game that made me believe more in his ability to play in modern NBA systems and I think the most underd discussed thing about his game is his passing and his playmaking you know like that system that that yeah he can really pass that system that they ran in at Yukon is not easy it’s very complicated there’s a lot of movement and his ability to hit guys without turning the ball over in particular was the thing that stood out we know what he is as a Defender right like he is going to protect the rim at 72 with a 79 you know w 7 seven wingspan whatever standing reach like he’s just a massive human who’s going to prevent people from scoring but offensively there’s a lot there to to like as well uh I think the the shooting form is is pretty good I’ve spoken to members of NBA front offices who believe that you know him in particular there’s a chance he might shoot it you know he’s not a very good free throw shooter despite the form and he you know only took six threes or something this year so you know it’s definitely a leap of faith but he has a lot of other things that I think you can um like from an offensive perspective because of the fact that his processing is so fast that um you know when you have a guy like Shaden sharp who’s so good cutting off the ball and Shooters everywhere like clinging in the short roll hitting Simons and all these guys like it’s very intriguing um so yeah if he’s there it’s an absolute home freaking run like I even you know I’ve spoken with members of the the Blazers front office and they said who you know who should we draft I said kingan you know this is before he kind of went off on his little run and you know now he’s potentially a top three guy but this is when you know the Blazers still thought well maybe we’ll be at five maybe we’re gonna we got a shot to move up in the lottery and I was like I love clinging I love you know so I’m a big big clinging guy I think he plays winning basketball he still has high upside but he has a really high floor as well and I think those are the guys that you know can really uh maximize their potential because they they get the Reps on the floor because they’re not so many mistakes that you have to take them off the floor so they’re they’re able to build the trust and then actually develop the other parts of their game that are considered weaknesses yeah there’s a world where kingan is available at seven I I think SAR is going to go one or two um that that could potentially impacted but depending on what Houston does at three I think the general logic is that the teams between like four five and six don’t need centers I would argue Charlotte can draft a center yeah I like I like Mark Williams a lot but like he’s not somebody that if you believe that this guy is going to be an impact player you’re not like well we already have Mark Williams guys like you know similarly to DeAndre Aon I think DeAndre aon’s a good center right but he’s not somebody that I’m like we can’t draft another one you know like so I I feel similarly Detroit with the new front office obviously they could just say Burn it Down Right wild yeah I so I think so well I buy the logic like I understand why everyone’s kind of saying that okay not a that’s not what uh San Antonio would spend a lottery pick on Detroit has a couple young centers um even they’ve been loading up on young centers for a couple years um and and you know and Mark Williams and Charlotte like I get the logic but I think Detroit or Charlotte could draft kinging in like I don’t think I don’t think if he gets past three then Houston or whoever might trade up to to to get there um with with Houston I don’t think he’s I don’t think he’s a guarantee to um to drop but I I think there’s a world and I think there’s a world where the Blazers trade up to um chase him but I wouldn’t bet on it but I do think like there’s been some reporting from ESPN that they would be they’re one of the teams that’s interested in and if listen if they think like Cory if if you think that’s the best player in the draft and you can get him at three well then you trade up and get the best player in the draft at three like um that’s just that’s just how you run a basketball team that’s the way you do it um couple other guys you you mentioned your r lower on Ron Holland I think he could be there at seven I think he could be there at 14 what what are your thoughts on him um yeah I’ve I’ve never been a Ron guy you know like last year at last year’s hoop Summit in Portland um you know I just left the week going this is the number one Prospect in the class you know and honest to be honest to be frank I felt that way about just about every prospect that I saw there including Cody Williams DJ Wagner Zack re J like I just went like oh no um but Ron in particular I just went like he’s supposed to be the motor guy like where’s the motor you know where is the the energy in this that he’s supposed to be bringing and now to be fair he in the game itself he was excellent and he brought that but I just the stuff I saw that week in the practice settings um kind of made me a little hesitant to to make him this no-brainer top five guy coming into the year and then I kind of thought his season with the ignite was kind of a disaster I I know that you look at the raw numbers and you see 20 points per game in the g- League scored yeah you know like you’re like oh man like some of his Advanced stats like his pretty good stealing block percentage is you know he rebounded fairly well um but to me it was just a it’s a misuse of a developmental year because I don’t think he is going to be the kind of player that you look at and go this could be Jaylen Brown you know this could be the guy who was really bad in his freshman Age season and he turned it around hit his 100th percentile outcome and now he might win the finals MVP you know in some freaking circumstance right like I think he is more like and people are going to listen to this and be like this guy I’m turning this off I’m never I’m going to disregard everything like no we’re like a half hour into the program they’re already committed they’re already committed he’s like I look at him and I go ah could he be Cory Brewer like that could be a good outcome for him like who was the seventh pick in his draft you know like in hindsight it’s easy to tell can I tell you Corey I loved Cory Brewer coming out I love I was like dude he’s he’s so long he’s so fluid like I thought Cory Brewer was like most outstanding player in the final four two Champion I thought he I thought he was going to be so good I thought he was so good and he but he was a great role player you know and he could he can go off he got you 50 one game right like he could he he went off in in the playoff in the playoffs right like he’s so like that’s the kind of player I think Ron can be or like a Josh Howard you know to use another like older player like these are good impactful players and if he turns into that that is worth a seventh pick a 14th pick in this draft does he want to be that right or does he want to be the guy who is playing with the ball in his hands and trying to score 20 and trying to make plays and then it ends up in an 11 turnover game and a 50o blowout to the Salt Lake City Jazz who does he want to be and I think that’s what you have to find out I don’t know you know I don’t know who that is yeah I do think he’s slipping down draft boards and that can either help guys or hurt guys right that sometimes you get into a better situation and sometimes guys feel um they just it never clicks right like you’re saying like it never clicks like hey you are you thought you were this you are you are a couple rungs Below on the ladder and guess what that is a long-term million dollar many millions of dollars career if you can make it work or you’re out of the league right or you’re playing somewhere if you don’t you’re bouncing around and you’re just a Reclamation project and maybe it works maybe it doesn’t again you know like this is this there’s so much talent in the league that it’s like it’s so hard to just be like these teams are stupid because they passed on Ron Holland or whatever it’s like I don’t know maybe but also maybe not like the history of the league also says maybe not you know like yeah yeah I I I think he has the physical profile to H like to to be an NBA player easily like easily checks those boxes be and because of that he might be worth a flyer at 14 but I I um sure the I I yeah I I have some concerns about him I only saw him in person one time and I will not say that I came away from watching that game saying like that’s an NBA lottery player it was like yeah I think better it was like I think he was better than Ashton haens that’s what I left the I left the gym and I said I think I think I’m pretty sure Ron Holland was better than asht I have an Ashton Hain award actually that we give out to to prospects um because in his draft year when he was at Kentucky he played with quickley and Tyrese Maxi and I kept going guys you should really not drop Tyrese Maxi down your draft board like you are you have to understand he’s playing next to Ashton Hain so every year we give out the Ashton Hagen award to the the prospect that was affected the most or the the point guard that has affected a Prospect the most negatively um because of their inability to understand what the pecking order probably should be well I will say uh the g- leagues uh with all due respect to London Johnson he was not a positive impact on the on the g- league night no um but okay we run a little long but I get you out of here real quick um I think another name like the Blazers maybe in in in the market for a big maybe Clingan maybe Ed maybe kware who you mentioned um Eva Mei might be working out on Tuesday um is he a lottery guy like in your eyes what where are you at with him oh no no no no no no no no he’s not I think I think he’s interesting um you know because he’s got real legit size although his wingspan is pretty subpar for how tall he is yeah he didn’t measure well yeah um great athlete right good raw tools he’s another guy at the hoop Summit where I was like I actually went back I was like he was there you like I saw this guy practice for a week what um and you know I think that we see like uh Gafford and we see Derek Lively and we’re like oh Rim pressure bigs that you know like provide the gravity he’s just not for me I think he not to say he hasn’t had moments he gave Kyle filipowski the business when they play Duke so like there are some stuff there he can move they’re interesting tools but you know he had a 3% assist percentage um that’s not great like he doesn’t no passing he hasn’t shown any passing so if he does any passing it’s like well he didn’t show anything in in college so how am I supposed to guess that all of a sudden he’s going to be bam out of Bio um and then defensively like block percentage of 7% you know you want to be around 10 if you’re like a real shot blocking Prospect and given the fact that his wingspan is a little shorter and he doesn’t have the real length I would take a flyer on him later in the first round if he slid to the second round you know but I don’t think there’s a whole lot separ him from a guy like ad Demona who the Blazers worked out and I heard was awesome in their workout so like I wouldn’t spend the asset on him in the lottery when you can get a guy like that later right and the Blazers have 34 and 40 and Bon will probably be there so it’s like if you like him at about the same um well maybe in this high-powered three Onre workout um that may or may not be open to the public based on what the if he can defend Zach I mean yeah he’s gonna lock up Zack Edy he’s he’s gonna be you know um when he’s gonna guard Ryan Dunn he’s going to look great they’re gonna be like wow he’s really shut him down Ryan Dunn’s Ryan Dunn can’t score amazing he didn’t hit a shot weird he didn’t shoot why didn’t he take it why didn’t he attempt a jumper um Corey if if folks are looking for more of your work where can they find it yeah you can find me on Twitter SLX Cory TBA and then uh all of the larger work that we do at No Ceilings at No Ceilings NBA that’s on Twitter on YouTube um no sealings nba.com for our written work we provide every every day Monday through Friday for free in your inbox um at 9:00 a.m. eastern time every single day we have a No Ceilings Plus subscription that we give intel if you had subscribed to No Ceilings plus you would have known that nicoa topich had a 66 wingspan back in February um so you know we we have a lot of cool stuff that we do there I uh you know for those who may not be familiar I actually used to work for Mike schmidtz as his video editor on the film sessions that he did at ESPN I’ve kind of taken over um um you know for him I’ve I’ve carried the mantle on I’ve been doing film sessions with prospects that you can find on the No Ceilings YouTube so um yeah just noing nb.com you’ll find all the links and you know you’ll find all the work from all the great people that you know work at the site yeah Cory’s the best um the reason why I reached out to him is because I learned a lot from him on the internet and I said I need I need that expertise uh 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Corey Tulaba of No Ceilings joins the program to talk Trail Blazers draft targets in the lottery, including Matas Buzelis, Ron Holland, Donovan Clingan and Kyshawn George.

No Ceilings Mock Draft: https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/2024-nba-mock-draft-v7

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