Brooklyn Nets turn Dorian Finney-Smith into Isaiah Collier or Devin Carter at the draft?

Brooklyn Nets turn Dorian Finney-Smith into Isaiah Collier or Devin Carter at the draft?

coming up the Brooklyn Nets need to make a trade to get back into the 2024 NBA draft and we have the team to do so Kings 13th overall pick and the prospects that make sense for Brooklyn all coming up [Music] next you are locked on Nets your daily Brooklyn Nets podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day ah yes my friends it is the lockon Nets podcast right here on the lockon podcast Network it’s your team the Brooklyn Nets every single day he’s Doug Nory I’m Adam arck we thank you as always for making us your first listen of the day we are 100% free on all those great platforms and let you know this episode is brought to you by Game Time download the game time app create an account and use promo code locked on NBA for $20 off your first purchase terms they do apply Doug and we know that we’ve been talking about it and finally we got there a path for the the Brooklyn Nets to get into this draft class the Kings Dorian finny Smith we’re doing all the things we need the Nets to do this off season as the draft is but a couple weeks away yeah let’s see if it comes to fruition we’ve heard a lot of teams that wouldn’t mind trading out of the dra trading out of the draft for maybe some more ready players uh so I think that that’s probably going to be something we talk about a decent amount going into this the Nets have already expressed it seems the willingness to trade Dory and finy Smith probably for this exact reason so it feels like this is going to end up happening there’s a few mechanics that kind of get in the way for the Nets uh I.E price coming back they can’t really open up trade exceptions at this point because basically everyone’s over the cap so like it they it basically you have to make the money match and with Dorian infiny Smith there are a few that’s actually work gets a little hard with him um because the contracts sort of right in the spot of not a lot of other teams have around this money either way you spoke uh to lockon King’s uh host Matt George and it seems like this is a could be a palatable spot and there is some money that could be worked out to get Dorian Smith over there players back maybe a pick and this would be this would be an interesting spot for the Nets to be able to try to land in a draft which has been talked about as being weak but there are players that I think could probably be impact ready for the Nets if they were to get into this spot yeah 100% you mentioned Matt George there because typically and we saw this when I talked with uh Jackson Gatlin for locked on Rockets all of a sudden when you bring in the other team’s perspective it can either be encouraging and in this case it was or discouraging you go oh wait you mean you don’t want to give up all your young Talent Houston that’s that’s a shame we were really hoping for that to be the ideal scenario so with with Matt George he said Dorian finy Smith is the exact type of player that the Kings would want to bring in this off season you go and you look inside of their roster from a contract standpoint they have the money on the books that would make sense whether it’s a Trey ly uh whether it’s going to be a Chris Arte who who I would try to avoid if I could or a vinnikov there are there are contracts and money on the books that wouldn’t be prohibited for Brooklyn to take back to get them into that 13th spot those are all veterans non-consequential and now you find yourself in that top 15 in this instance in the lottery looking to improve this roster and you and I identified not only two players today but we’ll mention the other two we’re going to talk about tomorrow because this feels like anything from back end of the lottery to 18ish might be the sweet spot for Brooklyn in a week draft to be able to move up a little bit higher than you would expect sending out Dorian finny Smith yeah and the thing with the draft is as we sort of like dive more into this in the coming weeks with you know the possibility of the Nets getting in there one thing you’ll realize from this draft is why and you know the draft gets knocked because it doesn’t have like this clear number one guy right it’s like in years past it’s like we kind of know what the top three is going to be after that maybe there’s some speculation but for sure and you might Shuffle the deck chairs around a little bit but it’s it’s there’s like not too much confusion about where it’s going to be this year I mean whether it’s ret whether it’s SAR like no one’s clinging like no one seems super high on the very top of the draft but there’s for sure NBA talent in in and around this like 10 to 20 range definitely I mean we’re gonna highlight a couple guys today that are close to NBA ready now who again you’d feel kind of sick if you were drafting them top five because they don’t probably have that ceiling right but in terms of just like NBA ready skills like this draft has a lot of dudes like that and and frankly that’s kind of where the Nets are like where that’s not a bad spot for the Nets you know knowing they lost this number three pick to the Rockets I mean if you want to just try to find some glass half full stuff it’s like you know they’re not going to probably get some franchise level perennial Allstar right but there’s dudes here that can play for sure well and isn’t that ultimately we talked about this before but the idea the well the draft class it’s a weak draft class okay it’s a weak draft class it’s not this isn’t youth B basketball tournament week draft class like these are the to your point excuse me these are guys whether it’s as a role player coming off the bench or rather than the third overall pick being equating to a legitimate top five Talent versus a top 10 or top 15 type Talent it’s still there so for the Brooklyn Nets I like the way you framed it as listen the Nets kind of need guys that can come in and contribute now because with the handful of veterans they have and some of the young players they’re developing they’re still going to be minutes there’s still going to be roles that need to get filled here the back court is clearly the one that I think we identify for first and foremost how do you look at players that can complement cam Thomas how do you look at players that have a skill set that maybe offers something that the Nets lack in that category and then ultimately can these guys be the both and can they come in now excuse me and then still Bridge across to another iteration of this team even if the role fluctuates or changes a little bit there pinning down on Devin Carter and Isaiah ker today what would I I wanted I don’t know if you have this off the top of your head what was the number like what were the top two or three traits that you identified for a backcourt player to add to the Brooklyn Nets because for me I was thinking about size which was hard hard to come by here but also can I find a player that has defensive upside on that end of the floor because that would complement cam Thomas nicely yeah and actually just before I get to that I just want to say one more thing too because remember the Nets like even like if you you know DQ Whitehead might get a look this year we’ll see how he responds like the Nets still are really devoid of young Talent so like adding young Talent here I mostly try to get away from like the where the Nets are fit to me matters way less usually right like where the Nets just aren’t at this place in their in their trajectory where like they should be drafting off fit it should be drafting off just like whoever you think the best players are so I do want to say that first right there are I mean short most talented I’ll sort out the rest after I will say like the one spot I probably would avoid that is Center if they signed Claxton because it would just be pointless right like it would just be it would mostly just be pointless like the draft on Talent at Center at the center position if you had him because that’s like one place you can’t really sort of be super redundant everywhere else like wings and guards the Nets just don’t have enough anyway so like at that point fit matters a little bit less that being said they have such a they have such a um they’re so shallow at the guard position when it came to looking at guards I really it was like you said first tried to get anyone with size like any size at all like basically 64 if you can have any size at all and honestly too like just being able to like have physicality and downhill momentum was really important like they just don’t have anybody like this and no matter almost like no matter which way they go in the draft or in Superstar hunting or whatever they’re going to need guys like this and so while I don’t like drafting for fit because they kind of have nobody like this on the it wasn’t hard to talk yourself into Fit Plus Talent equals a guy the Nets could really draft and I mean I don’t know if you want to start with k or Carter here after the break but that’s what I was looking for primarily to start yeah and and by the way when you need talent because you don’t have a lot of talent it’s easy to identify talent that makes a lot of sense so coming up here next we’ll start with Doug’s selection Isaiah ker and how he sees him fitting into Brooklyn and why it could be a nice selection at the 13th overall pick we’ll dive into that coming up next all right before we get to that tell you about our friends over at game time look if you’re looking to go to a game a concert a comedy show theater whatever it is you want to make the ticket buying process super easy very fast and make sure you’re getting the best prices this is where the game time app gets you all of them in one very easy to use place they got killer last minute deals they got Allin prices you can see exactly what you’re going to see from your seat before you even sit down on the app they have the lowest price guarantee it just takes the guesswork out of buying tickets 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to the LA Lakers so maybe we could say Doug’s even reaching a little bit here but sub20 years old you you want to say you got to 6’4 Doug 63 and you know and three quarters is where he’s coming in with his Mark there and a wingspan under 65 hit me with the hit me with a breakdown it’s just hilarious with some of these mocks too because you see ker you can see ker mocked all the way to 10 or you can see him all the way down to 22 23 like this just and by the way this is like where we are with everybody here like it’s all over the map with guys moving around the board with klier look the the one of the main things is the Nets really lack guys who can get downhill guys who can get to the basket guys who can finish at The Rim guys who can sort of like press the defense at least at the initial point of attack to the point where like they like they don’t have the guys like have like that like little dog in them like you know maybe you want to say cam Thomas does but even his game is a little more predicated on just being able to worm his way into like weird shots that he just can make at an exceptional level they don’t really have like a speed power kind of guy anywhere on the roster and that’s exactly what ker is like he’s downhill all the time everything for him is finishing at The Rim he’s very physical already like for a 19-year-old the the body’s NBA ready right now there’s definitely weaknesses in the game and I’ll go into a couple of those shortly but overall like he wouldn’t start out of the gate but like Off the Bench ball handling Pace pushing especially if like Simmons isn’t really going to be around probably compare with Simmons even if you needed him to but like just in terms of physicality overall speed ability to get to the rim and just enough requisite size coming out I think it’s like I he would mix he would fit like he could play probably day one right just because because just because the Nets don’t have enough guys like they just don’t have a guy that they can bring Off the Bench to do this stuff and so even from that standpoint and I think it’s like NBA good enough regardless right so I’m not usually a guy and you’ll see with this with like with Cody Williams tomorrow I’m not usually a guy that likes to pigeon hole into like ones and fives unless I think those guys are awesome because it’s just hard to pair later right like it’s just hard it’s just hard to pair if you have deficiencies in other spots but ker I do think possesses enough of the skills to like have it be NBA ready now that I’m a little less worried about that than I would be in other situations which I for sure have been in the past yeah and coming in uh 205 at least by tanon in terms of weight so has a little bit of bulk behind him I like the he’s strong he’s strong guys bounce off him when he gets into the lane like he’s has NBA strength and that and you mentioned only being 19 years old when we get to my guy there’s a little bit of an age Factor certainly going in the wrong way potentially but I do like your initial premise of we know like that’s lack physicality you mentioned Ben Simmons but it’s like even right now okay Dennis shuder is going to be the other guy in this back court we know that Dennis schruder is you know paper thin and you still like his his skill set is veteran experience so having a player that make me play off of him as well thinking about a guy that can get the ball in his hands and drive and penetrate the lane with the ability to be physically finishing at The Rim as opposed to other players as we’ve seen number of times any player regardless of position they just get swallowed up in by a defense around the basket right they just can’t overmatch the physicality that teams can put forth on them so I like that premise but then if we swing it the other way what are the deficiencies inside of his game that you’d say this is why maybe why he’s not starting day one even on the Brooklyn Nets well he has to get better at shooting like so the catch and shoot stuff was okay um which is encouraging but if you’re a point guard like you’re just not going to be in tons of catch and shoot situations you’re going to be more I mean I mean you might be if you play with like LeBron but in in other you know but in other spots you’re just not if you’re the primary ball handler you’re going to need to you know put a lot of your shot creation sort of off the bounce guys coming under you on pick and roll and you need to be able to really attack that in a way where guys can’t come under because then you can just shoot over and like he’s just probably not at this point a good enough shooter the form is a little funky um the efficiency number were I wouldn’t say uh you know alarming but not good like the catch and shoot stuff at the college level was okay it was like the C the shock creation for himself that wasn’t at The Rim is where you see the efficiency dip down a lot and at the NBA level like you just H if you’re the point guard you just have to be able to hit those shots because if you don’t and we’ve seen this many times if you can’t hit those shots it’s just it does be it be it becomes much much easier to defend you yes so the shooting will have to get better the free throw rate was like bad 67% I I that’s that’s pretty bad for a guard right and so when you’re not really hitting your and that’s what I mean about like sort of the form could use some doctoring and that’s where like the off the bounds stuff doesn’t come in it’s like well you also can’t hit the free throws and that’s just and that’s and that is that’s for sure problematic I after watching the decent amount of tape I think that’s probably correctable and he seems and he projects like a hard worker and I hate to like use that as a litmus test for whether or not you can change but if you can work hard like you can work hard in all areas right so like you can work hard on physicality you can also just work hard on getting your shot corrected and so I think like when you have that as part of your core mentality I’m a little more encouraged that it can shift but a point guard who can’t really shoot can’t create his own shot from outside the restricted area has limitations on his game but I’m but like no one’s going to be perfect here if he was if he was 66 and could shoot threes he’d be the number one pick so like it’s it’s like this is sort of like what we’re talking about there’s a reason why the 13th overall pick in a perceived week draft class we’re not talking about quote unquote the perfect prospects I think my that would be my biggest drawback on him coming in now at 19 again it fits the timeline of okay let’s spend a couple years correcting areas of your game while still having a role in the immediate future but it would be that for a team that lacks scoring and Lacks know on ball creators I would be cautiously you know cautiously optimistic if they took ker because you’d be saying now if he can get over this hurdle here around his shot if he can extend that range with consistency if the free throw shooting can improve then you’re talking about a player that even coming off the bench has a real role if he struggles in those areas or continues to struggle or doesn’t develop those well then you just got another one of these dudes that now I will say in his favor would be that could still hey I’m a bowl in the china shop I get it the basket but lacking the on ball creativity feels like at least in the short term we talk about cam Thomas hung out to dry again try to make things happen when the shots are needed on the offensive end because you don’t look around the room and say male Bridges Cameron Johnson these other guys are going to be able to pick up that slack that’d be that’d be my biggest concern with a shooting deficient guard being added into the back cour right and this is where you trust that it can come around right like if you trust it can come around the age matters that’s what the age matters yeah ex if you trust that it can come around then you probably hit on something um if you don’t then you know you are stuck with probably just a guy that’s just a little too one-dimensional and probably still probably can carve out NBA minutes for himself but it’s just not going to be at like the super high end and that’s that’s the only thing Doug coming up here in a second let’s talk about NBA pedigree and let’s take a little trip out to Providence we’re going to talk about Devin Carter and why he out of these two I make the very strong case would be the better option for the Brooklyn Nets at at the 13th overall pick we’ll dive into that coming up next all right before we get to that tell you our friends over at prize picks look prize picks is where you can turn $10 into $1,000 in a single game just watching your favorite sports this summer you got one more NBA Finals game to go got baseball all summer long as well got WNBA to you can make prize picks you can make a prize 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them we can send back a contract that isn’t going to hurt the Nets two bad and are more than willing to give a lottery pick emphasize enough it’s a lottery pick in the 2024 draft class when we get to my guy I’m going with Devin Carter here I mentioned their NBA pedigree son of Anthony Carter who was essentially a lifer journeyman around the NBA never never be regarded you know pump the brakes here wasn’t regarded as an All-Star in the waiting but all the prospect out looks on his son are saying yeah look at his father and then kind of go 2.0 it’s a little bit better in all of these key areas so I’ll start with the with the one drawback here which would be 22 over 22 years old at time of the draft played through his Junior season so you’re talking about an older player coming out you can think about a Jaylen Wilson type in terms of where his age is going to be the big positives for me sitting in the back court going to the notes here as I always need to only 63 but unlike say comparing to ker he has a near 69 wingspan which is what helps him we talk about his defense in a little bit offensive defense is split from a rating standpoint 115.2 94.5 so the compliment on both ends of the Court what is what matters here my biggest thing to start is that he feels like a compliment to cam Thomas if we talk about would you plug him in day one starting again based on what the Nets have on their roster yeah I probably would because he gives you some defensive tenacity his defensive rebounding for his size and position is exceptional and then we can talk about his offensive game but just from a balancing your backourt scenario could you envision walking in the door day one and saying hey starter or not but significant minutes for Devin Carter based on skill set Age and what he’s bringing in yeah the frame is super concerning just because he’s so like he’s so thin um and like that is you know the the old 205 for uh ker yeah listen I’m coming in 193 and that might be soaking wet so that’s that’s certainly something you’re going to watch here for Carter yeah it’s always like a little concerning when it’s thin plus older right because you’re like because you’re less you’re less likely you’re probably getting pretty close to sort of like what your frame is going to be and so that’s a little bit concerning you like the length a lot on him I love pedigree guys by the way like I love I love just guys whose parents were in the NBA because and you’ve made it this far because almost for sure you already understand sort of like the work ethic and what’s needed around it it’s not it’s not a total you know P pass go you know $200 kind of situation but it’s like I it counts a lot for me I also really love guys we talked about this last year with psky like I love undersized guards who rebound really well because I think that is actually just like a mentality more than anything else and we saw that because last year was like ah you know he played it like a lower level is it gonna translate to the NBA and it just kind of did and I just think because rebounding like that just is a mentality more than anything else it’s a skill it’s a mentality and you can either do it really well because you’re always trying to do it and that’s where carer I mean eight rebounds a game like almost nine rebounds a game last year like that’s a lot for a guy that’s 6’3 right I actually think stuff like that does translate so framewise a little concerned age-wise a little concerned tweener style like it’s a little weird but sometimes tweener can make it so that you kind of pair well with like a guy like cam Thomas too because you have a little more length and can defend it I don’t know it’s it’s I don’t I don’t mind this one too he’s another guy that’s mocked all over the place yeah yeah it’s tanon had him going 11 to the Bulls but you can watch him go back eight spots you can watch him even go maybe a spot or two higher it’s the beauty of the 2024 NBA draft I I’ll start on all the positives I liked about him before we talk about what I think is highlighted positively when you watch his tape or when you hear the way they they look at him for a pro from a prospect standpoint but will be a problem based on his frame at the NBA level the positives are that his catch and shoot numbers from the perimeter are 40% that he improved year-over-year at the college level the really thing that I like is NBA so he shot 30 37.7% from three-point range in college but from an NBA level because they go ahead and Mark this stuff out on those deeper shots and by the way he has NBA range as in halfway to the logo maybe towards the logo this guy was jacking up from all over he still would shoot it at almost 37% of the NBA level so there’s no drop off here he’s not taking any gimmies at the college level when it comes to the outside shot I like that there’s a balance between what he does on the perimeter his ball handling his ability to work into the paint create a little bit of space for himself so whether it’s off the dribble or catch and shoot he can be a guy that if Cam Thomas is on Bowl I’ll find my pocket I’ll wait for my opportunity and I’ll knock down those looks if you get blitzed you can put the ball in my hand and I can go ahead and create for myself so there’s plenty of things that I like about him including you mentioned liking ker a little bit of a gritty guy I don’t think he has the full frame to be a totally gritty guy but but he he wants every High motor opportunity playing out in transition is good for him ball in his hands where I get concerned is getting into these halfcourt situations when you go and watch the tape I don’t want to say that he doesn’t have the step because you see him penetrate Del Lane and get towards the basket well my concern is based on the frame and the size that some of these athletic determination finishes around the rim become oops see next Tuesday you know we have length and size and physicality to kind of force you away from that would that be the end of of my upside for him if he can’t get to the rim no because cam Thomas can go do that for you so this is where I go back to complimentary I think it can work well but I wouldn’t Bank on him being downhill getting on the back getting at the basket if we’re talking about half court sets I can see that in transition where his get out and burst and run would benefit Brooklyn the way they want to play yeah not everyone has to finish at The Rim but if you like and and especially if you’re small if you’re like a smaller on the smaller side size as a guard like it’s not a prerequisite especially if you can shoot it’s just like I don’t know you it’s actually really just a frame actually it’s really actually for me if I were to like pick between the two I kind of would just go for which guys might have the NBA Body by the end of it knowing that I can’t replicate the wingspan and that does maybe I’m under maybe I’m undervaluing that compared to just like the weight and the muscle tone and that’s the defensive value here right that He’s only 6’3 but if you talk about having a near 69ine Wings span like that’s why you’re almost shocked when you watch on tape that he can defend and can go on switches but NBA level it’s the same problem on the offensive is that is that slight frame going to be the same problem defensively at times depending on matchups right like it for sure will be it for sure will be because you get situation this is such a stupid com but like switch on to Luca use your 69ine reach like yeah well watch out as you get blown out of the paint going to the basket yeah and so again and by the way it’s worth noting here that I think it was Kevin o’ Conor um someone has reported that Carter has received like a promise from someone in the lottery so like there are teams interested in here now whether or not like they that ends up coming to fruition or like the team trades out or like whatever it ends up happening so like if you believe what’s coming out of that camp that like he is going into that Lottery range you know like we’ll see if he ends up even I mean it’s a good sign for him by the way like it’s a good sign for if you know sort of where his stock is right now if there’s already a promise that high in the draft and and basically if we let’s let’s pull it back a little bit you can go and watch some of these players as I mentioned at the top here you’re going to be talking about we come back tomorrow you’re going to highlight a non-b backcourt player near the top here same kind of premise getting into the 13th pick in Cody Williams out of Colorado I’m going to take a look I believe at Jared McCain there’s some chance that I switch it up but who knows the bottom line is from a age perspective on these players this is where I think it is interesting when you mention getting a promise from a lottery team well if it’s a weak draft class perceptually then maybe age matters a little less because you’re kind of talking about well who’s the guys that are best ready to contribute right now because even a 19-year-old not to put down cyer it’s well okay but he’s a 19-year-old in the week draft class talking about maybe all the way back to the 20th pick so how teams look at them and the teams that pick there might look and say we want a guy that at least has the defined role right now and we don’t have to wait on because there’s certain teams in this Lottery that expect to be competing for the playoffs when it comes to the upcoming season right so there’s a interesting Dynamic they’re probably at play when it comes to who wants to take what over the course of these top 10 top 15 picks all right always fun to talk draft stuff we’ll be back with more draft guys this week and like look we’re just hoping that the Nets end up landed with this draft picks like we want to do draft coverage is awesome when the team has the pick so um speak distance here right that that’s what we’re doing we’re talking about players they can draft because they will get that draft pick I’ll be devastated with Shawn marks if they don’t get there just for having all this amazing work out the window go ahead off beat I’ll be devastated if we go through draft night and Dorian finy Smith is still on the team it doesn’t even need to be about the 2024 draft pick but if Dorian finy Smith is still on the team it’s going to be the worst of all of all world I mean you want to see my eyes roll all the way back into the back of my head like that just go into the draft night where this guy’s still on the team and then that’s on draft I mean forget about it I might lose my mind I’ve talk about all the you know the we’re kind of out of problem so let’s create some like this would be this would kind of fall into that category we’re gonna get out of here make sure you subscribe to lockon Nets uh wherever you listen YouTube we’re g to climb toward 8,000 subscribers over 7,000 now let’s go to 8,000 make sure you 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The Nets seem ready to trade Dorian Finney-Smith this offseason and it could land them a pick in the first round of the NBA Draft. The Locked on Nets guys look at Isaiah Collier and Devin Carter, two guards with very different styles and makeup. But both could be impact players in Brooklyn almost right away.

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