Should John Collins Be An Option For the Sacramento Kings

Should John Collins Be An Option For the Sacramento Kings

a name that is entering the conversation a little later than I expected the John Collins he he’s one that I feel like kings fans have really liked um maybe they’re maybe they’re off that train a little bit um I got to admit I was never the biggest John Collins guy I didn’t understand the the idea of him being here um you know everybody’s got a price like you know tell tell me what it is and I’ll tell you if I’m on board for it uh but I expected that name to pop up a little bit sooner in conversation who is John Collins in the league like what kind of role do you think he plays is he a star is he a role player like I know he’s not a star but like like what what is he is he he’s a he’s a good role player like he doesn’t play the same type of basketball is he even a Kyle kman type no no he doesn’t he doesn’t play the same type of basketball but I could see him in the in the right situation being what PJ Washington has been to Dallas like he’s that level of talent um and he gets in the right role with the right team he can Excel so and this is where I get stuck with with John Collins right now is I don’t exactly know what they were doing in Utah and I hated that Atlanta team like that Atlant the team he was on before didn’t make any sense to me and I think that impacted him especially when you you know not just Trey but when you you know you’ve got bogy there and deante and you all of a sudden it’s like what the hell what is John Collins role in all of this and eventually they move off from him so that could play a factor in what we’ve seen you know again I I think you said this perfectly comparing him to PJ Washington in the right situation this is what he could be um people I think thought PJ would probably be a step down from what he was in Charlotte because he’s on a better team and his role is going to be different and maybe scoring wise he did take a step down but he’s been a significantly more impactful player because of his skill set has been needed both through the regular season and and and through these playoffs up to this point where we’ve got game five tonight and that’s certainly what you would hope with any contending team or team trying to contend who acquires John Collins yeah I I like John Collins here in Sacramento as a move if that’s if that’s the oh you traded the 13th pick and you know in in your assets to acquire John Collins or create space so you can get John Collins and then that’s it and you try to sign Malik Monk and all this I don’t like it in that respect I like him as an additional move to like if you got kosma kma’s the one kozma’s the number one pick for me that the kosma deal is number one so so before play with your wording for a second again wording kma’s the move or a move he’s the move he’s the move that at at the at the end of the off season obviously resigning Malik monk too but like yo you upgraded you got Kyle kman here to start at the four or three whatever you want to say and you brought Malik monk back and now let’s let’s cook let’s cook he’s the move if you added John Collins like after all your assets were done with whatever you have to use to get Kyle kosma and you’re able to use the rest of your assets to go get John Collins cool that’d be great that that’d be great but if put that in not in reverse because you wouldn’t be getting kozma but like take kosma out and put John Collins in there and you use your primary assets to go get John Collins I’m not a fan of that one I’m not a fan a lot of people think he’s a fit I I don’t think so I people are talking about like these these Rim protecting centers and power forwards and stuff like that like this goes back to what I was saying you can’t take away from the offense you can’t take away from the dynamic ability to be able to shoot at four of the five starting positions um and knock down the three ball and spread the floor for Fox spread the floor for sabonis and things of that nature that’s the way I would build this team you can’t take away from that what would that number look like then for a player in that position right if we’re talking about someone in a four let say you want more rebounding but you’ve got to you’ve got to to be able to have that offense what’s the number of and this is a a super generic way to pose this question and have this conversation but what’s the number of Threes per game you want that player to comfortably be able to take um probably five to six okay five to six threes a night be able to shoot Collins pretty much lives at about three and a half yes for me for me personally and and just and for him to be guy the teams he was but that’s that’s Utah right you know and that’s um Atlanta where everyone shot threes yeah for him to be your you know big offseason acquisition I wouldn’t want that if he part of an offseason where you you know upgraded that roster sure absolutely I I would take take a chance on him but career 35% last year 37% he did have a career high in 201920 at 40% John Collins also I mean if if that’s the move like 26 years old also by the way I’m probably keeping my pick I’m probably not giving up give up the first round pick for he not well to me he not good enough to give up the first round pick KY kosma is I agree so I if I think KY kma I don’t know I be clear though I don’t know know I’d give up anything else like I whatever like salary I have to make work but I don’t know that i’ give up much else like like if I look at kosma as being better for this team better fit better ball player John Collins don’t get the same trade proposal as Kyle K from me so but I I want want to reiterate though I do like the idea of him being on the team we’ll have some fun with the Kevin her stuff what if it was a straight swap herder and Collins that’d be fine yeah that’s easy yeah that’d be fine okay no problem are we that out on what Kevin herder can do offensively I’m not but it seems like the writing’s on the wall it seems like the coach well that’s right that’s the him I I I still if I was a or I was a coach I still have a little more faith in Kevin hder than than maybe others offensively I think he can still play well but it’s I’m more in on Ellis and Malik monk then like those are the two guys I’m running with what if Malik’s gone does anyone’s opinion change on Kevin herder if Malik monk isn’t here Kevin herder can stick around but I don’t like the idea that Kevin herder feels that Malik monk role because Malik monk does so much more than that like I’ve kind of seen that around like I don’t think Kevin her like that like you don’t keep Kevin hert around to like feel that role or whatever no he can’t fill that role but can you afford to lose him because I think uh I think uh an important component to the end of last season that is really commonly ignored is hey you know Malik goes out Malik goes out Malik goes out Kings really Struggle No Kevin was out too and the depth at that position was completely wiped out Kevin herder can’t F the role that Malik monk has but that but losing everything you had at that position particularly scoring wise is brutal um he can score for you though if you lose monk doesn’t that give Monty Moore incentive to just be even more aggressive that he is or whatever because if you if you lose Monk and you got Hur around like that team’s not doing anything oh no I agree like he you almost your your hand is kind of forced like you have to do something at that point Kevin her I think is kind of involved in that okay yeah I I I think Kevin hder is involved in it if you’re talking Kyle kosma or Zack LaVine or you’re talking someone who can score or be a playmaker I mean they probably go hand inand at the level in which Malik can uh but if you’re looking to bolster the roster I don’t don’t know that Kevin can be a part of that the crazy thing about that um that proposed Kyle kmail I think Matt George talked about maybe it was going around well there was another locked on one that he had there was a locked on one and then there was a Bleacher Report one as well um you didn’t like you didn’t trade Kevin herder in those that would be I I would do that I would like I would be perfectly fine with um trading for kosma using a 13th pick um I would try not to have Davon and Tre in there maybe get Sasha in there for one of the two or or for for Trey or something like that but try and work that out and then still be able to keep Harrison Barnes and uh Kevin herder to either be on your roster or you still have them as assets moving forward that that would be that’d be a fantastic scenario fantastic

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