Proposed Trade: 2X NBA All-Star Zach Lavine to the Golden State Warriors

Proposed Trade: 2X NBA All-Star Zach Lavine to the Golden State Warriors

Zack LaVine to the Golden State Warriors how does that sound we’re going to throw out a possible or proposed trade and I want you to hear me out the Warriors have to make big moves so let’s start taking a look at some of the options that are out there we’re going to break it all down now on lockd on Warriors you are locked on Warriors your daily Golden State Warriors podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day [Music] thanks for making lock on Warriors your first listen every day we’re free and available wherever you get podcasts and on YouTube part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day today’s episode is brought to you by Game Time download the game time app create an account and use the code locked on NBA for $20 off your first purchase terms do apply appreciate y’all being here I am your host kylin Mills a play-by-play broadcaster host with the Big 10 Network NBC Sports Bay Area and several others and I’m very excited to be joined by our locked on bulls host Hayes who is going to break down this maybe crazy depending on how you look at it trade proposal Hayes thanks so much for being here appreciate you taking the time hey thanks for having me well three topics to deut to talk about on today’s show and they all revolve around Zack LaVine I’m going to propose the trade throughout some of the proposals that have been out there floating around on the internet what would the fit be with Zack LaVine what are some of the concerns what are some of the strengths or what would the upside be and then is this realistic is this something that could possibly happen so Hayes I want to start by talking about Zack lavine’s relationship with the Chicago Bulls because you look back at the team signing him to this max deal in 2022 and now it seems inevitable all the reports are coming out that they are looking to trade him this offseason from you’re following the team closely where or what has gone wrong in that relationship and the what’s transpired with this team to lead to this point I mean what hasn’t gone wrong I think it’s all gone wrong in a lot of ways I think I think the the the new front office that we had that came in about four years ago they had to come in and correct some things that the previous regime and Jim boin did and I think they did that for a while they wanted to make sure that they were able to lock in Zack LaVine to who was up for a contract extension at that time they got him locked into a max deal they added Demar they added Lonzo they added nicolaevich and it was a team that looked like the arrow was pointing up and then injury happens actually it was a game against you guys both Lonzo ball and Zack LaVine went down with knee injuries in that game and nothing’s been the same since then and the team has had a worst record year after year all three years since then as well and I think Zack is a player that is starting to recognize that he’s starting to reach the finite portion of his NBA career and because of that he wants to win I also think with that the Bulls realize because we’re a team that doesn’t pay the luxury tax that realize hey we we don’t have a team that we feel comfortable paying the luxury tax for and they’re willing to now part from Zack LaVine as well because we’re right up against that luxury tax and I think it’s just both it it’s like a a marriage that both parties realize it’s over but they don’t want to be the first ones to say it and that’s where we are now with the bulls um it’s unfortunate they never really like Zack LaVine a lot of people blame just Zack and I and I don’t buy into that at all like no Zach’s not a perfect player maybe he’s not a number one right like they they around him they wanted to see if he’s the number one and he’s and he’s fine I think Zack LaVine would be a damn good number two or number three but um they just weren’t able to put the team around him that was able to sustain victories and and I also think Billy Don I mean uh Zack LaVine has some issues with head coach Billy Donovan and the Bulls seem like they are in the Billy camp and they aren’t planning on moving on from Billy Donovan anytime soon so all those things breed a perfect storm where it’s just time for the parties to move on yeah well something that you did say was music to years or should be to Warriors fans is that he could be a great number two and that’s what this team is looking for in the Golden State Warriors which is why this trade kind of sparked my interest a little bit maybe Zack LaVine is a high-risk High reward type of player because of the injury history and he is bringing in a massive contract at least right now he still has I don’t remember the exact dollar amount but you know 50 million he’s due this upcoming season but it is possible the Warriors could clear the way and that a trade uh could come about if the warriors were interested in someone like Zack LaVine I know reports just came out this week that that the kings are interested in LaVine and they’ve been interested in him for a couple years uh but LaVine specs first of all for warriors fans who are listening 65 200lb shooting guard 68 and a half wingspan 29 years old so under 30 is something I’ve been begging for the Warriors to just sign anyone who is under 30 years old generational athleticism great slasher has developed the three-point shot to where I think he’d be enough of a floor spacer to spit fit into the Golden State Warrior system but to me it’s it’s the big contracted the injury history I know some people look at the win percentage below 40% on his career does say to some people this isn’t a winner in terms of what kind of player in person he is so curious for you watching him up close how big are your concerns about some of those different things in terms of the injuries and then also like the win percentage how much do you read into that the win percentage I I’ll address that first I don’t like he’s had terrible teams around him like if you look at some of the starting lineups that Zack lven has had around him for this for the first four or five years in Chicago they were terrible you’re not going to have a good winning percentage with that um on top of Jim boing being the head coach at that time and he was terrible too so I don’t hold that necessarily against Zack LaVine he’s never been on those type of teams that had quality depth or even the lineup made sense the injury is the biggest realistic concern for me uh with Zack LaVine he had an initial uh like he had his ACL surgery and then he didn’t have any injuries for real for about two or three years after that but then the last two or three seasons he’s had a major injury every year uh over the the last three years something that’s kept him out of games or something that’s been lingering on I know he had the thumb thing which he ended up playing through but he needed surgery and he waited on that so it’s it’s always something there with injuries for Zack LaVine but I also think he’s carried a big workload and if he were to come to like the Warriors I don’t know if that injury bug would be as concerning considering that he’s clearly not the number one on that he wouldn’t be the number one on that team right exactly and that’s where I think there could be some positives from looking at a possibility of bringing him into the world um did have to undergo a season ending foot injury back in February so or surgery rather so not sure exactly what the recovery processes for that uh but looking back over his career do you think it’s possible for him to get back to that 2021 level of play because that’s what I think is a big question mark and to remind folks uh LaVine was averaging right around 27 a game incredible shooting splits like 50 42 85 The Following season was similar before you mentioned dealing with an up and down Road due to injuries but a two-time Allstar dynamic score do you think he can get back to that level still I do I think that that Zack LaVine still in there and I think Zack lavine’s flirted with being a 50 40 90 player I think twice over his Bull’s tenure and that player is still there he’s still somebody who if you ask him to do what he does well and you put him in a system I think Zack LaVine can Thrive if he has to be part of the machine what we found out is that Zack LaVine can’t be the engine of the machine but he can be part of the machine he can be a really good part of that machine so I think he can get back to that player okay uh good to know the other concern at least I know Warriors fans are going to be concerned about this is the defensive piece because the Warriors have not been good defensively since their 2022 title run it’s a big area of concern a lot of folks are looking at the fact that they were looking at for example an Alex Caruso trying to bring in an elite perimeter Defender they need to bring in size is it necessarily going to help this team to bring in someone else who’s going to be a liability defensively when you already have Steph Curry who has improved defensively but certainly is someone that offenses can look to Target in attack he has the athleticism Zack LaVine does so that’s where sometimes I don’t understand the disconnect when you see these players who are so incredibly explosive and so great offensively and then so not even close to that level defensively how do you explain that from what you’ve seen it’s awareness for Zack LaVine and that’s why we saw Zach I think play the best defense of his career when he had Lonzo next to him and that’s because Lonzo is a communicator on defense and he has such great uh basketball IQ that he communicates out there and he was able to help kind of overcome some of the Q issues that Zack LaVine has on that defensive end Zack LaVine as an on ball Defender has always been solid if you look at the metrics there he’s always been a solid on ball Defender it’s off ball and so if you have a team that communicates defensively I think he can be good enough um he’s you’re always GNA have his issues where he gets blown up especially off ball or he falls asleep on some plays and I think a lot of times too with Zach is it’s the momentum thing when Zach feels like he’s not getting calls on the offensive side of the ball he’s not giv effort defensively and that’s one of the biggest short shortcomings of Zack LaVine that’s driven me crazy but I think if you if he’s coming into a system that has an expectation defensively as well as communicates defensively I think he’ll be good enough not ever a lock down Defender even though his like you said his athleticism immeasurables tell you that he should have that ability to be Lockdown Defender but he can be good enough in the team system I believe yeah I also wonder with a better system a different system maybe a better culture because it’s no secret the Bulls have been trying to figure things out the last couple years I wonder if that could also help them bring up the 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to go and and you know really amping him up and making him start to turn the wheels in terms of having that defensive IQ because that’s what Draymond Green is is known for and then also just culture and personality wise being in a different environment would that bring out a better side of Zack LaVine from talking to him and getting to see him up close and personal like personality wise competitor wise what are some of the things that stand out and how do you think he’d fit into a different culture I think he I think Zack LaVine is the type of guy who I could see fitting in in in in a different culture really well especially one that has one and has and has a coach like Steve Carr I think that you know Steve Carr believes in his players and he tries to empower his players and I think that that’s something that’s Zack LaVine would respond really well to I do worry about the Draymond aspect in the sense that either Zack would be a player that listens to Draymond or he’ll be a player that completely gets under Draymond Green skin it’s I don’t see any middle ground it’s either going to be one way or the other on on those two because the pouting sometimes with not getting calls I think could drive Draymond crazy and I’ve seen that a little bit it looks like you mentioned some of the pouting some frustration to where he can hang his head I’ve seen some criticism of maybe just some of the body language and the posture when Zack lavine’s on the bench how big of an issue is it and what have you noticed throughout his career with the bulls how bad is it I guess is my question so the the time that we had a guy with his numbers and you want a leader right like you don’t want the guy who’s hanging his head and pouting about calls you know what I mean for sure and that’s the thing Zack LaVine is not a leader he’s a leader by the fact of like sometimes he’ll go out there and he’ll lead on the court he’ll he’ll I’m I’m going to make the big shot this game and sometimes there have been times where Zack LaVine has kicked it up we had a game against the Miami Heat a couple of years ago where Zack wanted the def the call on defending uh Jimmy Butler and he did an excellent job he you could tell he just wanted that assignment and so there’s that times and that’s why I think with the right coach you mightbe get that that Zack LaVine out there a little bit more but we had an incident where Zack played terribly he got benched in the fourth quarter and he pouted and the players sided with Billy Donovan not on Zack LaVine and that through what we’ve heard is a big reason why it kind of not that it at that moment it became that Zack wented out but that became kind of what everything goes back to in the moment that the relationship between Billy Donovan and Zack LaVine just reached the point of no return at that point so he is somebody who I think he needs to be coach hard and if he respects you I think he’ll do well but the Bulls have been losing we do have a bad coach so I don’t want to put that necessarily on him we haven’t been in the best situation admittedly and um but there is some of that concern there and players like I said they’ve sided they talk about Zack LaVine like in practice he motivates guys he he believes in his guys but sometimes when you’re in that battle and in that game whether it’s the the fiery emotions of the moment or maybe it’s even disappointment in himself in his own performance it doesn’t always come out the best way and that does when you’re when you’re somebody who’s looked at to be a leader on the team it really does affect the team negatively when your your leading scorer and leader is acting that way so well to me that’s where coming to A Team like the Golden State where maybe be a positive where they already have veteran leaders on the group who I think would hold him to a certain standard versus for example a younger Kings team I know Darren fox has really emerged as a leader of that group but maybe where you know what I mean he doesn’t have as many vets who are pushing him along and keeping him in line and trying to keep some of that in check I actually think like you said I think the Draymond Green relationship could be interesting I’d be curious to see how that plays out but in general the Warriors do have a solid core that does you know take control of those types of situations they do it with some of the rookies Jonathan kaminga is Young player for the Warriors who has had to go through it a little bit in terms of just bench eate the way he carries himself they’ve talked about like showing up to things late like they have kept him in line and there are vets on this team who are not afraid you know to get into guys a little bit who aren’t holding up to the standard that they expect so I think that could actually be a positive for Zack LaVine uh want to talk a little bit about the fit I know we mentioned some of the defensive concerns but offensively as well because he would be coming in at the two spot for a Klay Thompson who’s really been a catch and shoot Elite three-point shooter in this motion offense has been able to really space the floor and that’s worked well alongside Steph Curry where I look at some of the highlights of Zack LaVine and really he’s doing a lot by himself doing a lot off the dribble off the bounce obviously he’s a great slasher and I mentioned the three-point numbers really outstanding as we pointed out uh you know over 40% back in 2021 22 I’m just not really sure if he’s that consistent of an outside or perimeter shooter at this point I know it’s something he’s worked on in this game but just kind of curious how you think that fit would look in terms of the Warriors what they like to do lot of screening a lot of off ball movement they’ve been looking at their two guard to be more of a catch and shoot Guy where Zack LaVine is is someone who like I said his biggest strength to me is is the slashing and ability to get to the hoop but what do you think Zack LaVine is actually a really good catch and catch and shoot player we just don’t run that many catch and shoot opportunities for it doesn’t happen yeah yeah that that I’ve always you know um knocked Billy Donovan for myself is that Zack LaVine for example last last season small sample size 45% catch and shoot uh off catch catch and shoot opportunities he’s actually a really solid catch and shoot player um and I think because he’s had to be the offense a lot of times and the number one that that’s why you haven’t seen that part of his game be utilized to the best of his ability but I do think that he’s a player that off that if if you’re asking him to do catch and shoots I think he can Thrive the offensive fit is probably the least concern I have on the if he were to go to Golden State Warriors honestly okay interesting um I guess my last one just on the fit before I want to move along to just the realisticness of possibly making a trade with the Warriors and some of the pieces that that would have to move is for Zack LaVine what do you see the longevity being of his career with the injury issues that have popped up like do you think with a two roll where you mentioned maybe he has less of a workload less of a burden he can realistically be a player who goes back to not only the level of 2122 but is able to sustain it injury because another issue with the Warriors is that they have to look forward and try to figure out what’s the next plan Beyond even Steph Curry in the next one or two years like is he realistically a piece that they could bring in and hold on to and could play into his mid to late 30s at a high level the injuries that Zack LaVine has had lately have been nagging injuries like even this the the injury that he had last season the end of season it was an optional surgery and I think that may have been ayed to not go to the Detroit Pistons which it sound it sounded like he was he made before the trade deadline yeah real real coincidental timing on the announcement about the surgery wasn’t it yeah and then and then right after the Zack it was like a day or so after the Zack LaVine trade all the pieces that were rumored to be in the Zack LaVine trade went to different trades it’s like oh I see what you did there I wouldn’t want to go to Detroit either um but um I think that I think that it’s really just been a lot of nagging injuries for for Zack LaVine L lately I don’t think that he’s had anything that’s that you can look at and say this is going to be something that plagues him over his career even with the ACL injury like he he’s he was been a better athlete since the initial ACL injury and then he did have the he had to go in and get a scope done and things like that but uh from what I’ve read that’s kind of typical about three or four years after an AC ACL surgery that you can expect to get that so he’s always going to probably have some type of nagging injury that probably force him to miss about 10 to 15 games but anything that’s like lingering or longterm or being the same exact injury I don’t I don’t think you have to worry about that with Zack I don’t think so okay because that’s I mean like I said I just keep going back to the injury issue and the Warriors have players who have been injury-prone they’ve got older players they’re trying to move this organization into the future and it’s like you hate to bring in another injury prone guy who you really don’t think is going to be able to get healthy and sustain you know longevity in terms of minutes and and being able to stay healthy for bigger portions of games Jimmy Butler is a player that I talked about on the show because he’s been linked to the Warriors or just you know some of the again projected trades that are out there and it’s like man do you want to bring a 34 year old who’s been injury prone the last couple years like is that really what the Warriors need on this team full of guys in their mid-30s and and that are already struggling struggling to sustain the minutes and the expectations they have right now so that’s where I kind of look at Zack LaVine he’s under that 30-year-old threshold but because of the seriousness of the injuries and ACL now foot surgery like what is the realisticness of him being able to sustain a bigger workload um and being able to stay healthy uh last question for you is going to be just the realisticness of this trade I’ll put out some of the proposals and exact pieces that were put into a couple of projections that have been out there so MLB season WNBA season still Sports going on over the summer the Olympics coming up right around the corner so that’s going to be a lot of fun um while you’re waiting for NBA season to get back in full swing there is a way you can make watching those games more fun by playing prize picks put some cheddar on the line use your big brain to win some money with prize picks you can turn $10 into ,000 do in a single game watching your favorite sports this 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floating around as you’ve got the Bleacher Reports of the world check Sports a couple so this was actually a trade package Bleacher Report put back in January so it’s not quite um as relevant but the Bulls would receive Chris Paul Moses Moody Corey Joseph who’s now off the books and then two second round picks via Atlanta uh in 2026 and 2028 chat sports just put out a couple weeks ago proposed trade with Trace Jackson Davis Chris Paul and cavon Looney going to the Warriors for Zack leine and I think you’d have to include picks in that as well for the Warriors I would not like to see them let go of Trace Jackson Davis this is a team that desperately desperately desperately need size and I like the potential he showed this last season came in as a really nice piece average eight points per game out of Indiana was much more polished than I expected good in the pick and roll and I think that he should stick around if at all possible something interesting I actually just read an article about hay would love to get your take on was that Chris Paul actually could be a good addition to the Bulls based on kind of what we talked about and them needing a table Center Center I saw it on ESPN uh just a couple days ago and kind of curious do you think that’s someone the Bulls would be interested in we talk about age he’s 40 um but they need some stability in the back court like do you think that would be even a conversation the Bulls would entertain I want to say no because I’m just not a a Chris Paul guy at this stage of his career but unfortunately there’s two many ties for me to to for me objectively to say that it may not be something the Bulls explore reason being Chris Paul saw uh one of his resurging years under Billy Donovan and he’s a close mentor to Kobe white as well he has t to the Bulls and I mean like I said I got to be objective I could see them entertaining that and I hate myself for having to admit that if I’m being 100% honest with you I hate it ah yeah well a lot of Warriors fans had to eat crow as well when Chris Paul came to the Warriors after uh many weren’t his biggest fans either and that was the reality of the situation so understood um realistically like what kind of Hall do you think the Bulls would be looking for what do you think the price tag is going to be for Zack LaVine and some these conversations we’re throwing out pieces like from The Warriors of Moses moody maybe potential three and D guy Chris Paul we’ve talked about the age things like that Trace Jackson Davis cavon Looney I’m like what I don’t know what they would even use him for but maybe but what do you think realistically is what this team is going to be targeting as some of these trade conversations come about I think that the Bulls are looking for a couple of different things they’re looking at salary cap relief I think it is unfortunately a big motivation motivating part in this and then I think on top of that they do want some type of young player that has some upside and so uh Jackson Davis is somebody I love I love when your guys is roster like I AB I’m not even going to lie to you I love I love him MOS is Moody I like a lot too and I think when you look at yeah I like when you look at the Bulls they need some defense they need three-point shooting those are two players that could definitely help in those in that aspect so those are two that I personally really like and I do think that those are players that could get that conversation started as well with the bulls but some some type of draft compensation would have to be in there as well yeah for sure a big picture just though in shopping Zack LaVine around I know the Sacramento Kings have been tossed out there and that move would make sense depending on what happens with Malik monk uh like what in general are the Bulls looking for like are they wanting more draft capital is this a team that is accepting they’re in full rebuild are they wanting pieces that are going to be helpful or you know more win now or or whatever you want to call it are they looking for any certain you know position or you mentioned defense just big picture kind of like what are some of the key needs for this team or what do you think this front office is going to be looking for unfortunately I don’t even know if our front office has rebuild in their dictionary I think they just black that part out in the dictionary why not I don’t get it I don’t get it either uh but I think this is a team that is looking draft compensation is something that I do think that they want and I do and I think uh overarchingly is that they want some players that can contribute now because in their mind they’re still in win now mode why I have no idea your guess is as good as mine but this is a team that is still until they show me otherwise everything that they’ve communicated everything that they’ve done they operate like a team that went to the second round of the playoffs and they just feel they just need a little bit to get them over the top that’s how they operate so as as long as that’s what they’re showing me that’s that’s the the the um the the the focus here for the Chicago Bulls I guess to say that’s funny because Warriors fans it’ll sound a little bit familiar at least for some folks who feel like it has been or it is time for this team to move on from the core and the roster as they’ve had it constructed they feel like there needs to be more major change but the front office you know has been indicating at least to this point with for example the last trade deadline like people were looking for a big move didn’t happen um they feel like Hey we’re not close to just being over the hump like we’re a team that’s 500 throughout the last two regular seasons like big changes need to happen but the Bulls are way worse off I I I don’t understand where where the wi now is still is still the idea like you said even like a soft rebuild I feel like something um more needs to happen than just like we are right there like you watch this team all season so so I mean maybe you can every single game unfortunately indicating that they’re right there every like every like this year after the trade deadline when we made no trades yet again our our president of basketball operations you would have thought that he was out there like yeah we we we’re competitive we feel we’re competing for what like the like what are we doing here like it’s it’s I don’t know uh it’s something in the water in the United Center and I’m glad that uh I’m not drinking it because it’s it’s the delusion is real with the Chicago Bulls right oh geez well the positive for dubs fans is that all reports have indicated and even Mike Dunley V the GM has said at the end of the season they’re open to making big moves they’re open to making major changes what those might look like how that might come about Still Remains to be seen But at least they’re open to some big changes happening and now it looks like one of those big changes could possibly be Klay Thompson moving on and you know maybe that does really really Usher in a new era of Warriors basketball remains to be seen but hey thanks so much for coming on really appreciate the time where can folks follow you where is the best way for them to keep up with your content as we continue to watch the trade scene develop and just in general follow your great NBA content you continue to roll out thank you you guys can follow me uh at CEO Hayes you can also follow us at lockone Bulls um yeah we deliver uh the best daily Bulls content you’ll find out there that’s for sure oh yeah 100% lockon also has launched the first ever National Sports 24/7 streaming Channel on YouTube and now it’s also available on Amazon Fire TV in the free Fire TV channels app locked on sports today is here for you 247 covering the top sports stories of the day with the local Experts of the locked on podcast Network plus our national shows covering every League find locked on 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The Golden State Warriors front office is reportedly open to exploring significant roster changes and adding key pieces in the 2024 offseason. The Warriors are in need of a consistent secondary scorer, and may be in need of a shooting guard if Klay Thompson departs in free agency. Zach Lavine could be a high risk, high reward pick up with major injury concerns, but the potential to put up numbers like he did in 2021 – 27ppg on 50/42/85 shooting splits. Kylen Mills is joined by Locked On Bulls host Haize to discuss the upside, the risks, the fit and more.

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