Warriors are Planning a MAJOR Move!
on a Saturday late morning marker Andy Evan gettings with you we are reacting uh to the latest report from our Warriors Insider Anthony Slater that not only have the Warriors and Klay Thompson kind of been frozen out of negotiations you know on either side right now nothing is going on at the moment but the Warriors reportedly according to Anthony Slater have not even offered clay a contract this offseason uh not a three-year deal which he was reportedly looking for not a 2-year deal not even a one-year deal the Warriers according to Anthony Slater have not even offered Klay Thompson a contract period and it seems as if and understandably so that has frustrated Klay Thompson to the point where he has unfollowed the warriors on Instagram he’s deleted the number of pictures of him on that Instagram and also according to Slater it has maybe upset him enough that even if the Warriors eventually come around and give clay the years and the money that he wants maybe he says you know what you’ve pissed me off enough I want to leave anyway that all from Anthony Slater via the athletic earlier today uh our Warriors Insider Anthony Slater but there are kind of as we welcome you back it’s Mark granny and Evan Giddings Evan there are kind of some conflicting reports going on around the NBA right now because earlier we heard from Tim McMahon of the SPN covers the the Maverick specifically but also the the NBA as a whole he said on the hoop Collective podcast via ESPN that the Warriors reportedly offered Klay Thompson a 2-year deal but now Anthony Slater of the athletic is saying the Warriors haven’t offered him anything there’s the report that Klay is looking for a three-year deal the magic reportedly not interested in giving him a three-year deal we have all these kind of odd reporting uh odd reports that are kind of butting heads I tend to believe Slater because he’s plugged in like this like nobody else but McMahon of ESPN saying the Warriors offered him a two-year deal Slater saying they haven’t offered him anything I don’t know what to believe yeah it’s really hard right now but it also the the timing of the the scrubbing is also interesting too because I originally thought that well if it is true that Klay Thompson you know was uh thinking about a two-year deal from the Warriors but he wants three well then you know you take down some pictures you want follow them on Instagram that’s that’s the signal publicly that you’re unhappy with out of maybe the years or the money but Slater Just Dropped a Bomb an hour ago and basically said there’s no money or years like there hasn’t been a contract it sounds like there hasn’t been a a single well there’s probably been negotiations but the talks have frozen so whatever the negotiations were likely between Clay’s agent and the front office that they’ve gone nowhere so like they are at an impass this is a this is a standoff right now and it seems it how I read it is the Warriors are basically asking Klay Thompson to dictate his own market and then if he decides that or he finds out whatever he’s worth then he can either choose to take it somewhere else or get it back in Golden State I think the Warriors are betting on the fact that Klay Thompson’s Services are not going to be uh wanted you know as much as right here at home and that the I should say that the difference between leaving they’re they’re banking on Clay being a HomeTown boy and eventually taking a HomeTown discount it does seem that way yeah and if you are the Warriors like this it makes sense right like this this seems to be a sound business decision a sound basketball decision and when I say decision nothing has been finalized yet but at this moment Evan for the Warriors the the Warriors Path to getting better and to being a better basketball team Maybe comes at the risk of alienating one of your franchise greats and pissing him off and making him upset and maybe he leaves and it gets a little ugly and and maybe he signs somewhere else and his his introductory pressure he bad mouss the Warriors like who maybe gets ugly it it seems to be the right thing for the Warriors to do in this moment is to not not agree to a contract with clay at this moment to allow yourself room to explore other options and for that while I completely understand how it might upset clay I think the Warriors deserve a little bit of credit for being willing to potentially make the the tough decision and to potentially upset one of your franchise greats for the sake of trying to improve the team like that’s not an easy thing to do and while it is upsetting and difficult I think the Warriors do deserve a little bit of credit for at least being willing to go out there and maybe upset one of your greats I wouldn’t give him credit for that I mean I I hear what you’re saying but I also don’t think it’s that like you don’t want of a choice though you just don’t want to give out a thank you contract for the sake of the fact that he won your four titles but why can’t you give out a thank you contract because you already given out three thank you contracts the last two years and one of them is no longer on the team okay so maybe no credit is deserved but we can we can agree that it’s probably the right decision and the smart decision yeah but it it’s also a result of you making poor decisions so Klay Thompson again he he’s going to have to fall on the sword in all probability because the Warriors have expended themselves they’ve spent a ton of money and they’ve put it in the wrong places for the most part Andrew Wiggins right now is a bad contract they tried to trade him at the deadline remember when he signed and it was a gigantic a great deal yeah Jordan P I forget who said it last year someone on ESPN it might be the worst contract in the NBA right now I think it was Bobby marks as well now credit to them for getting off off that contract but they still gave him that deal Andrew Wiggins is a bad contract Draymond Green after one year as still effective as a player as Draymond Green is if he’s going to be suspended for 25 games for the remaining three years of his contract that’s a bad deal that’s a bad contract so Klay Thompson I understand why he’s pissed off I also understand why the Warriors do not want to give into his wants or demands because they put themselves in a position to where they can’t keep giving out these thank you contracts especially after a season in which you didn’t have a single playoff home game okay so what yeah what becomes important here isn’t just like ultimately what happens with Clayton that’s obviously part of this whole thing but the reason why it seems and we can read between the lines and Slater even said as much the Warriors are trying to set themselves up to make a bigger move part of this clay situation is to wait with Clay wait with Clay just wait because you want to have enough space to be able to move spots around pieces around and maybe get another contract in here the risk is you alienate clay and maybe you lose him entirely and as as we both agree he’s still a valuable piece on this team you need is shooting you need shooting period there becomes like the other half of this which is okay what is the option that is leading you down this Road like what is the risk what is the reward to this risk of clay time like you’re risking losing clay what’s the reward here and it there there’s there’s a big move potentially that is out there what is the move Evan that makes what they’re doing to Clay Thompson worth that risk because it has to be something that moves the needle at least a little bit to make this worth it well I think there’s two big names that are or will be on the trade market very soon that had been reported this week one of them is Paul George who can opt into his 48.7 and then be used in a trade by the Clippers could you do a sign and trade with Paul George too yeah yeah yeah I mean you could and that’s maybe what he wants probably he wants a new contract you could also trade for Jimmy Butler who’s got two years left at around 48 or $49 million I think those are the two players that the Warriors are weighing I think Paul George is on the table I think Jimmy Butler is on the table and so it’s not as if the Warriors don’t want clay I just don’t think that they’re willing to put a contract on the table that would jeopardize the possibility of upgrading to another star and I think the two stars that are on the market and that are getable are are Paul George and Jimmy Butler and those are probably the two guys that the Warriors are trying to figure out how they fit how they can get them what they have to give up and that means clay you’re going to be on the back burner so are the Warriors trying to piss clay off on purpose no I think they’re trying to get better and the residual effect of that might just be pissing off Klay Thompson so are the Warriors say with Jimmy Butler and and say you got to trade obviously you got to give matching money say it gets done and Chris Paul is involved and Jonathan kaminga is involved and picks are involved and you get Jimmy Butler back okay you get Jimmy Butler back you lose Chris Paul okay that’s whatever you’re not planning on having him around anyway you lose Jonathan kaminga and you lose picks and maybe there’s other piece or two in there as well say that also means you don’t have you don’t get clay back maybe he doesn’t sign somewhere else immediately but he’s so upset at you that you don’t get him back let’s just say the net the net you know subtraction the net net addition subtraction here is you get Jimmy Butler you lose clay kaminga Chris Paul and picks is that worth it does that make the Warriors a better basketball team I mean I think they’re telling you yes otherwise I think Klay Thompson would have at least an offer like if if if clay if bringing clay back was a part of the Warriors getting significantly better I don’t think this report comes out I don’t think we hear that they’re not speaking or that talks have Frozen I mean just from a bird’s eye view and at a quick glance after reading all this you know I’m just looking at the Warriors salary table for next season and I I do think it’s very clear that Klay Thompson is not a priority because right now the difference between what the Warriors have on the books including Chris Paul and the second apron is roughly 15 or16 million so if they want to use and combine contracts they’re going to have to stay below that that means right now they might not have budgeted more than $15 million for Klay Thompson you know if they want to use multiple deals to bring back a big boy player and also remain under the second apron which Joe lob has not just said is a priority but now his actions are showing me that it is the priority to stay below the second apron so he said he might want to get all the way out of the cap entirely which seems very unlikely but you’re right at least under the second apron yeah I mean I don’t think they can completely get out of out get out of um the salary cap unless they want to not resign clay move off of Chris and if their intention is to bring back Looney that also would be a contract that they’d probably move off of but regardless yeah I think Chris Paul’s the next big Domino because he’s the one that can Court them that can bring back big boy and so if you’re looking at Chris 30 and you look at kaminga is going to be 7.5 um I think someone like Gary pton II might probably be a salary filler uh Moses Moody is going to be making close to Six next season he’s also extension eligible this summer maybe they don’t want to have him Beyond 2025 and has maybe a little bit of value so as a young guy perhaps yeah I mean I don’t know psky could be in there like all these things they could do to go out and and get somebody worth you know 45 to $50 million I think that’s the player they’re targeting and that’s the player that is if he’s here probably going to cost clay as roster spot yeah if you’re just joining us uh it’s Mark granny EV gettings with you 888 957 9570 Anthony Slater of the athletic has reported I’m going to read a portion of this for you quote Klay Thompson isn’t currently mulling a shorter than desired offer from the Golden State Warriors despite a wide open negotiation window there isn’t a one-year 2-year or three-year deal on the table because nothing is currently on the table according to League sources there’s been no productive discussion between the Warriors and Thompson or his Representatives talks are essentially Frozen with free agency less than 10 days away Thompson’s exit from the only franchise he has ever known feels closer and more probable than ever before that’s pulled straight from the Slater article on the athletic he later tweeted out with the link to the article saying quote there has been no offer made so it’s not just that an offer was made denied by Clay and then pulled off the table by the Warriors there hasn’t been any offer made by The Warriors which as as we’ve talked about signals I think very clearly very obviously that Klay Thompson is not the Warriors priority he has understandably so gotten frustrated and upset or so it appears unfollowed the warriors on social media on Instagram the leader some photos and is now potentially testing the market what is even more interesting as Slater reports is that the market potentially is not as hot on Klay Thompson as we previously thought we’ve brought up the $30 million number quite often that was a number that Bobby Marx ESPN’s NBA salary cap expert threw out a number of months ago about Klay Thompson’s potential free agency value this off seon um maybe he wants three years maybe he’s not getting the right years maybe he wants 30 million and maybe he’s not getting anywhere near 30 million and free agency has not even opened yet so there’s still a lot of time for all this to change and develop but the development from Anthony Slater no contract offer from the Warriors to Clay and the market maybe a little bit more scarce maybe it’s teams worried about Clay’s injury history and his age maybe it’s teams worried about the salary cap and the and the tax but there are a lot of teams out there who are under the cap and have room to spend and have money to spend but according to Slater perhaps um even those teams aren’t willing to meet Klay Thompson’s contract demands so it’s turning into a game of chicken who is going to uh Flinch first and the Warriors are betting that it’s going to be Klay Thompson yeah I mean I again I just if this is true and Slaters reporting that the Warriors have essentially not even opened up conversation after the finals I think the Warriors are okay with letting him walk like I I I just I think they’re all right with the big three being broken up I mean that’s that’s essentially the report they’re okay if Klay Thompson’s not on the team next year and some people might perceive that as disrespectful I think more people than last year are are also reading it as you know essential um but either way it’s a big move I know that I don’t read it as Klay Thompson being a priority for the Warriors but it is a big change if Klay Thompson’s no longer wearing a Warriors jersey next year and that’s going to be a shock to a lot of people but the Warriors are no longer in a position to where they can I guess kind of just operate and and run things back like like you said Mark I I don’t think they can run this back and if they think that Clay Thompson means that they are locked into just keeping the band together because of money or because of play style or because he won’t you know acques to a new role I I don’t know what the reason is but if Klay Thompson represents running it back to them I don’t think they want to do that yeah it seems that way and now I guess if we play this out like what’s the worst case scenario Warriors delay delay delay on a potential clay deal they upset him they try to take a big swing and it doesn’t work out for whatever reason doesn’t work out uh you end up cutting Chris Paul or or whatever and you don’t have him but you save those $30 million but you’re not able to get anyone of value back so you lose that contract slot as well you get Looney back you have gp2 back but you pissed off clay enough that he doesn’t want to come back either so now suddenly you don’t the the the wiggle room you allowed Yourself by delaying the clay deal doesn’t really pay off you lose Chris Paul you lose clay and you have no room to do anything else unless you’re trading away Wiggins which okay maybe you want to do that that it’s a decent amount of money you trade away kaminga you trade away Moody if this gamble doesn’t pay off the Warriors don’t have a lot of other room to make moves where you clearly say that makes them better because the only other way to get someone of value back at that point that that can of legitimately help you is to give away more of your prized assets like a Jonathan kaminga potentially and if you’re already without clay and you’re already without Chris Paul and you get rid of kaminga suddenly this team looks entirely different so it is a risk because this could go poorly you need two sides to make a deal to make a trade and you’re not going to just sign Paul George because you can’t you’re over the cap you can’t just sign a major free agent like that you’re going to have to have some other team work with you and there’s a chance that this all does not work out you lose Kay you lose Chris Paul you lose that contract slot and now you’re stuck back at square one yeah I think the larger risk to me is losing the favor of the fans but I don’t think J necessarily cares about that um because I think they also wouldn’t be willing to kind of play this game of chicken if they didn’t believe that their younger players weren’t ready to maybe have to fill that void like I I I think the stretch now he not he’s not a perfect player in my mind and hopefully he’s got a lot more to grow but I I think psky stepping in as the starting two and the Warriors being as successful as they were with him as the starter kind of gave them some confidence of like they might have not the air parent but they might be able to still win 45 or 46 games if Klay Thompson’s no longer there well and that was the report from just this week the reportedly the Warriors are looking at psky as just being the starting two all next year I mean I what one of the reasons I wanted Clay back was as a six-man like I I don’t I don’t think his days I think his days as a starter or as a as a helpful starter to like a a contending team are are done and if he’s playing north of 30 minutes A Night at age 35 I just don’t think he’s going to be able to help you more than he hurts you so yeah I mean whether it’s pky whether it’s Moody I I think the war the question I would have for the Warriors was like do you really think that your young guys are ready for this this type of responsibility but then again Tick Tock because kaminga is going to have money coming his way either this summer or next offseason same with Moses Moody and then a year from now you’re going to be thinking about what you want to do with pod so they have to start also thinking about their younger players in where they fit in their future as much as where the older players fit and that’s where I think Klay Thompson probably doesn’t want to take a back seat to some of these quote unproven guys but the fact of the matter is Klay Thompson is kind of over the hill it doesn’t mean he can’t be a still productive player doesn’t mean he can’t help teams on given nights but I think stuck still in 2022 and the Warriors are trying to be a team that thinks about 2026 yeah I think maybe the the clay conversation and he he seems frustrated now and it’s totally fair and understandable I think most of us in his situation would feel the same exact way it it’s partly because of the the the waiting on a contract offer from the Warriors and the report is from Slater Anthony Slater of the athletic the Warriors haven’t even offered him a cont ract period so that’s part of the frustration like why haven’t you at least offered me something yet like I’m I’m a franchise great I deserve something the other part of this is even if the warriors were to offer him something it might just be to you know be the Sixth Man and come off the bench and pajun is our starter and that in and of itself might also upset clay so it it might not only just be the fact that he hasn’t been offered a contract but it might also be that the plan that the Warriors have for clay this coming season if he does indeed come back is one he does not want and maybe that leads to you know what what Anthony Slater was writing about another part of this story that he wrote was even if the the contracts that he get from other teams on the open market is not what he was expecting he doesn’t want to sign them and the Warriors ultimately acques and give him what he wants he might be upset enough to not want to do that like he might not even want to be on the Warriors not just because of of the slight that he feels because he hasn’t been offered something yet but because he just doesn’t want the role that the Warriors want to pigeon hole him into no I also think a telling nugget from Slater story refers to Malik monk which is monk chose to essentially not test free agency because he could get the fourth year with the Kings he could get the player option and that would give him more stability so I think I think the Warriors would be willing to still have a twoyear offer on the table but I think that they’re hoping that Klay Thompson goes out and finds that there’s nobody that’s willing to give him anything longer than two years and then it’s just a question of clay can you swallow your pride and come back because you’ve perceived these slights and you feel disrespected by The Warriors but I think the Warriors are banking on Clay you’re going to feel disrespected by the market like you’re going to you’re going to feel you’re going to have to swallow your pride wherever you go and at the very least you can stay here be at home a place that you are comfortable in you might not be happy at first but at the end of the day you’re not going to be able to like you can’t have both you’re not going to be able to eat your cake and have it too and that’s what the market is telling us and I think the Malik monk contract is a pretty good example that if you want to be rewarded it might be better off just to stay put maybe uh from the Xfinity mobile text line 530 say say and this is what you were talking about clay isn’t back and leaves in free agency there will be a lot of pissed-off Dubs fans looking to go off resign clay um and that that’s fair and it’s what you’re talking about Evan if clay does not come back I think sometimes we kind of get caught in this social media like Wormhole where everything we see on social we feel as representative of the entire fan base there are so many fans out there that absolutely adore clay despite some of the issues recently and if he leaves and it appears that the warriors were the the main reason that they kind of pushed him out and were willing to take that risk there’s going to be a lot of upset Warrior fans and there’s one of them on our on our text line right now the 530 saying resign clay if you don’t we’re going to be ready to go off and in the way it’s currently playing out it seems like the Warriors are the aggressors in leading to that potential reality well that that’s why I think as much as it is about basketball again I think it’s also about the Optics of it it’s about how you can control The Narrative of the choice that you’re going to have to make because even if Klay Thompson comes back there might still be some fans that feel like clay was disrespected or they’re going to be shocked at whatever number he resigns for or they might feel like he’s going to be a problem because he feels like he’s better than pods or feels like he’s better than the moody people might perceive him as a locker room cancer I I don’t know how they see Klay Thompson but I do know that there’s a large contingent of fans that will love Klay no matter what and they’ll always appreciate everything that he’s done for them and will never be an anti type of fan that’s all well and good but at the end of the day I think the Warriors are trying to in a perfect world of clay walks to set this up as he chose to not come back we extended the olive branch for what was fair for us in order for us to get better and they can always fall on the built-in excuse that look we missed the playoffs last year we had to make adjustments and it sucks that Klay Thompson just chronolog ically is the first guy that we have to move off of but that’s just business and I think that’s the kind of narrative that they’re trying to put out or that they’re going to try to create um but this Slater story certainly messes with the Gumbo Pot yeah it does really quickly before we get on out of here uh YouTube chat powered by first NorCal Credit Union at copes control with a super chat $5 to say he that the guy we the text line we read the 53 zero he does not speak for all Warriors fans I don’t want him back yeah there’s people on both sides there’s people on both sides it does seem to be the the anti- clay contingent is generally louder on social media than the pro clay contingent I’m just saying there are fans on both sides but that’s all we have time for today here
Marc Grandi and Evan Giddings continue to react to Anthony Slater reporting that the Warriors haven’t even offered Klay Thompson a contract this offseason. The only way this makes sense is if they’re trying to make a major move work, right?!
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35 Comments
Saying the warriors should give klay a thank you contract is the dumbness thing a analyst has said, he's not worth it, I know they give 3 to dray, wigging and poole but those were worth it at the time they were given.
They gave him a fair offer before the season and he declined it then didn’t play well when it mattered. He should be upset with himself
Let Klay test the market.
7:16 we need shooting!
didn't you watch the elimination game against the Sacramento Kings?
Klay aint got no shooting.. 31minutes played, 10 FGA, 6 behind the arc.. 0 point made.. so what shooting are you talking about? Klay is acting like a child.. he needs to grow up! js 🤷🏼♂️
Benched as a starter and nearly unplayable in elimination games. And he wants 3 years.
If you're letting Klay go, you better be planning something big, like freeing cap for a relevant hire. You either make big moves NOW or bye-bye Curry window.
Klay bet on himself and this will not end that way he expects. Full stop.
good. klay is washed.
The season after the Warriors gave Poole his contract he averaged 20ppg off the bench and 5 assists and 26ppg when he filled in for Steph when he was injured for 26 games.
The only reason he initially struggled in Washington was that he was being played out of position.
The minute they moved him to PG, his average jumped to 20ppg and 5 assists. His last 10 games he averaged 23ppg, 8 assists and 4 rebounds.
Since you all know so much who on the Warriors put up those numbers. Not named Steph. Sick of the Poole slander.
The Warriors are over. They dug this whole and ended the dynasty.
Neither Paul George R Butler? Need to come to the warriors. Bad mistake, you have to give up half the team to To get either one .
Klay isn’t getting better. He’s getting worse. We all see it.
Whomever made the decision to draft Wiseman RUINED the near future. Also, Kuminga and Moody were not good picks at their draft positions. McCaw, Bell D. Jones, Smiley, Pascall picks all a complete waste. Myers was not good. Dunleavy's 1st draft was better than any of Myers drafts.
No to JK
No PG, thank you! It would be the same mistake as signing CP3! If Dubs sign PG, they're are doomed.
Yes, trade CP3!
They lost me with pg 13 and jimmy buckets 🤣👎
Poole's contract was fair and market acceptable. Who knew he would absosutely self-implode afterward. Wiggins' contract was fair and market acceptable. He has so little drive that the optics are terrible, and he might not look as bad on a team that didn't have championship aspirations. I hope you don't mean to say Green's contract, to you, is a thank you contract. He has a contract the reast of the league would trade for. He means so much more than just what he can do on the court.
Klay is becoming a baby
Don't put JK$ name in your trade fantasy.
I'm sorry I love the big 3, no disrespect but the last 10 years have been blessed for the most part. Y'all did create a dynamic dynasty. But it's over if you think you running it back again with Drey Klay n Steph yal are blinder than Kerr was the last two years playing the guys who won you a ring 3 years ago.
35 yr old, injury prone and wants the MAX,, you're trading JK and others is Dunleavy crazy
The Dubs don’t owe Klay anything just as Klay shouldn’t take a contract he doesn’t like, let’s see what the other teams are willing to offer him, and he can decide if he wants to stay, best of luck to him.
Klay can't give you half the defense that moody can right now let him walk
Mr Klay is an important asset to GSW
Fantastic squad for 95.7 – i enjoy having these clips and discussions on the weekend
Plan whatever. Give that Klay that 3yr deal and it’s over! Him and Podz next to Steph will mean another 10 seed
Losing klay and trading kuminga for jimmy ain’t it. Jimmy missing half the season also. Idk why but klay leaving and draymond staying doesn’t sit right with me.
Paul George – that would do it.
Play got a thank you contract with the max deal after the ACL injury
Klay Thompson is a spoiled brat. Look at the film how he acted during his absence. How he acted when he was benched. He's a "Me" player. Tired of the guy. Thanks for your work but get real dude.
3 year 16 mil. 16 helps up build the team, give Klay 3 years 50m, and give the team flexibility of a 16 mil expiring contract to trade year 3.
Klay wants the money and years.. The Dubs don't want to handicap their cap with the money and years. Why is Klay upset? He should know it's business and the Warriors have to also look forward (as Klay is doing as well). Best thing for both is to part ways on good terms.
If the trio doesn’t work; if Klay/Green not good on team; how/why they win 2022 championship? Maybe it’s the supporting casts not good enough; JK/Moody/Podz/CP3/Looney and others just not good enough! W’s still could go 2-more yrs to get championship if they surround the trio with better supporting casts; not the other way around. If Klay/Green out; it’s pretty much over for the era; knowing how hard it is and will take long time for all the newbies to work with Curry/know the system well
Podziemski should NOT be starting. The Warriors need to find a good veteran combo guard to pair with Curry. Have Podziemski come off bench with Payton 2 or Moody.
It's hilarious how much of a baby Klay has turned into
W’s I think could live/thrive w/o Poole, CP3, Wiggins, Looney, JK, Moody, Podz; but if loose Klay/Green; it’s really over! They have to find another Curry/Klay/Green and that wk t ck e for another 10-yrs or so