Reasons why the Milwaukee Bucks 2024 offseason may be similar to 2020

Reasons why the Milwaukee Bucks 2024 offseason may be similar to 2020

on today’s lockdown bucks we continue our look at the off season part two of the conversation between myself Camille and Van from Brew hoop and it comes your way next you are locked on bucks your daily Milwaukee Bucks podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day welcome into lockdown bucks I’m Justin Garcia as always by Camille Davis and today once again by Van FZ from brew hoop. comom as we continue our look ahead to the draft and the offseason for the Milwaukee Bucks we thank you for making lockdown bucks your first listen every day free and available wherever you get your podcasts you can find us on YouTube as well all part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day and today’s episode is brought to you by FanDuel make every moment more it’s playoffs wind down the Sports Stop sporting like we want them to but this summer FanDuel is hooking up all customers with a boost or a bonus daily that’s right there’s something for everyone every day all summer long visit fanduel.com lockon to get started all right we continue the conversation and look ahead to tomorrow’s draft and the offseason as a whole with vanas of Brew hop.com unlocked on bucks the Lopez one is interesting because I think we’ve all kind of uh aligned on it’s easy to talk your be I think it’s the last piece that we touched on when you look at where the contracts are that’s the easier one to Cobble together trades and say well you could send this out and bring this back my reservation is yeah and multiple again is just um how do you replace him on the court because you’re not bringing back a center for Brook Lopez in a trade we’ve seen names and Camille and I we talked about Kell Weare in the draft last week and maybe the Bucs get him in the first round but that’s a pretty big ask to say this guy who had some questions about his motor in college he’s gonna step in and be the Brook Lopez replacement I know that you know we’ve talked about five out and well the league is different and even the the argument because I’ve pointed out what you said at at the top there van a number of times is I just don’t know that you want Giannis at the five in the regular season you’re fine with the playoffs you don’t want to put the wear and tear on him and I’ve seen people push back and there is some truth to it of it’s it’s not as much wear and te as you think because it’s not as though he’s facing a ton of postup centers but the point is okay but you still have two games against nicokit you still have three to four games against Joel embiid you have the Minnesota Timberwolves two times on your schedule so there’s a lot of size that’s been accumulated in the league you still need some of that to combat that um and I guess the other piece of it that we didn’t touch on is you know we’ve mentioned Brook Lopez being an expiring contract and we had this conversation a lot with Chris Middleton of look it’s not as simple as just let him go and then you can sign somebody else because of the cap constraints that you’re up against it’s not a great spot it does get a little different next year though with the cap next year is when it starts to really go up 10% projected every single year and taking off that $20 million from Brook Lopez are you going to be under the cap probably not unless something else happens but are you going to have other things to use to fill that out like a taxpayer midlevel and other things you could use yeah so that’s where it does start to get interesting there are a bunch of uh option decisions next summer too Chris Middleton and Bobby porus with player options um and that’s when the new deals for both Giannis and Daman and Lillard kick in the extension actually that Dame Lillard signed with with Portland will kick in for that year um they have right now guaranteed salary on the books for 25 26 $173 million the the apron and the the tax are going up quite a bit that’s actually under the tax something yeah luxury tax for following year projected right now about 188 second apron about 20 million more than that um I think flexibility wise like it’s going to be very tough to get to cap room but yeah let’s say um well first of all let’s say let’s say any of these guys decline their player option I think the most likely one would be Bobby poris um and uh if he’s still on the team uh then he just like Lopez is gonna have a big cap hold on the books which um does you know allow you to make some moves that would take you over the salary cap um because you know some of that 173 million I’m talking about is coming off the books they drop below the salary cap but you keep those holds on the books um that allows you to resign each of those guys potentially for something cheaper which is I think what you do with Brook Lopez if he’s stuck around um while also giving you a bunch of flexibility um like maybe the non-t taxpayer mid-level exception for example um to add something next summer so there is some value yeah in keeping Brook Lopez on the roster um next offseason because it it gives you some some possibilities as far as building out the roster with you know these exceptions and even uh real quick here Camille even theoretically Chris too when we talk about that player option um I I suppose that’s the which would you prefer we assume he’s going to pick it up or what if he declines it and you work out another okay give us a little back and we’ll give you an additional year and a player option on there um but then again you’re you’re getting in the conversation of man you’re really kicking this thing down the road if Chris Middleton is going to be going into at that point what is his 34 or 35 Age season and talking about uh adding on additional years I also believe uh I would have to look at the actual date of birth but then you’re getting close to the well you can only give him x amount of years because Chris Paul is no longer around to look out for his guys and say let’s just make this the over 40 Rule and not the over 35 rule it’s over 38 right now isn’t that way it is you’re right it’s 38 yeahh so not quite there yet but for Lopez it would be I don’t think that’d be an issue for br Lopez though so let me I’m sure go ahead let me ask you this van because I’m G kind of stare us in a different direction really quick I’m thinking something you said earlier when you mentioned just how the salary cap Works how you have these holds on your books so on and so forth and you mentioned the bucks first round draft pick and what that salary slot is at the moment we’ve been having these conversations throughout this show as well about Possible Trading trade options and so on and so forth but mostly around you know Brook Lopez Bobby pores Pat conington Uh when it comes to the Bucks draft which is a few days away now um and they have this first round draft pick as well as the second round draft pick which I think the second round draft pick is going to be really valuable for the bucks and given that this is the first year with this two-day draft I’m really curious to see like after day one ends and you see who’s on the board if there’s a lot of action with trading those second round picks with teams looking to get back on the board um but thinking of the Buc flexibility and just options that they have if you had to trade one of the two draft picks that the Bucks have would you be more inclined to look to try to get off of that first rounder or that second rounder and why what would be the reasoning behind that especially cap wise first of all I think it’s important to note that because of what’s colloquially colloquially known as the steppan rule uh the Bucks cannot trade this pick until basically after it’s made um because right now they don’t have a draft pick for next year it’s was traded out I think that one was still in the Lopez deal uhhuh and um that’s just what it’s going to be in even numbered years moving forward the Bucks aren’t going to have a pick until after 2030 and an even numbered year and the odd-numbered years they’ll have picks just they can’t trade them because they’re encumbered by the swaps right um so if they want to you know they could work something out with a team and draft a player for them at 23 uh the coming days um but nothing could be finalized until after the draft um just because you can’t violate that rule but I would prefer personally I think um I was kind of hoping that they would move that second round pick at the deadline this year because that was a part of the the infamous Serge Ibaka Dante dant chenzo trade they you know for what that didn’t provide on court it did provide the bucks with at least two I think it was three second round picks um it basically got you which couple of them were sent out for J Crowder right I was gonna say it didn’t yield the results you wanted but it basically got you Jay Crowder and then this yeah so this one um it was starting to look like especially last offseason hey that’s gonna that’s going to be pretty valuable and I thought you know had they been willing to to move that at the deadline alongside like if they had packaged that with Maran Bo champ I think that’s just as good as a first round pick and I think you know it might be the same this year just because it’s just barely out of the first round it’s like if you put that together with another young player it’s almost like you’re trading a late first round pick this year um now I mentioned earlier you know um if if you wanted to just trade out Pat content get that salary relief like not take any money back for him and if you did you you you have a lot you have a lot of this flexibility I’ve been talking about um but you’re have to probably trade that pick if not the first round pick and I don’t think I would just dump off this first round pick given the way that the team is um for for just getting off of two more years of pack hon and getting you under the luxury tax so you can sign someone to mid- level whatever uh but the other thing and I know you two have talked about this is there are a bunch of young players on this roster next year um yep there are there there are guys you want to develop like if you’re the Bucks you want to see what you have with green the ajs green and Jackson they both showed a lot of promise this year look like they could be rotation players on a good team uh Maran bamp I I wouldn’t say that about I’m much less sold on him um and then uh you have Chris Livingston too I know is your guy Justin um who is like a total a total lottery ticket I would say um but that is uh and I wrote about this recently too that Four Guys adding two more guys to that core of young players is going to take away minutes from somebody um and you also are trying to win games this whole I mean we saw that the the two timeline thing in Golden state was I would say a bit of yeah yeah exactly yeah exactly I was gonna say fuic which I think that’s that’s what they it’s like that’s what uh Fool’s Gold pyite I think they have the same rout in Latin or whatever but anyway um I think yeah if you if you would want to carry at most I would say um at most five I would prefer to keep that group of young guys at four and I would just if it were me um I would keep the ajs I would keep the first round pick and then one of bamp or Livingston um and I would use whichever yeah whichever one of them and that second round pick I think um you know sending those two out as sweeteners in a trade once you get below that second apron if they get below that second apron um and they could aggregate something together yeah I think that that might be a good that that might be what I would do um at least in regards to the picks well I love sports I love them so much I never want Sports to stop but as the playoffs are winding down we get fewer games and the sports aren’t sporting like we want them to but FanDuel keeps me with sports going whenever I want them all I have to do is open the app and dream up any bets anytime I’m in the mood and this summer FanDuel is hooking up all customers with a boost or a bonus daily that’s right there’s something for everyone every day all summer long so head over to fanduel.com lockon and start making the most out of your summer FanDuel official sports betting partner of Major League Baseball we’ve I mean I I assume I know your answer to this because it seems rather obvious but we haven’t touched on any of the free agents that the Bucs have we mentioned one name um I think everybody is kind of aligned Camille and I a couple weeks ago talked about I don’t know do you maybe bring back um Malik if you can get him on the the the vet minimum again and as we’ve seen doesn’t appear to be the case our thought I see the face was more of like well you gotta be more judicious in the minutes and lineups that you play him in we know he can’t start next to Damen Lillard so is he just your scorer Off the Bench but that seems like it’s irrelevant um Pat Beverly is really the only other name worth having the conversation on since the injury occurred to than asses do you think Pat Beverly is on the team next year yeah well I remember soon after he he came to the bucks after the deadline I I was covering um their game at the United Center um and it was pretty funny interview we had with Pat conon afterwards in the locker room um he did ask us at the end if we subscribed to the Pod but um he let us talk to he let he let us talk to him first for a while and he actually gave some kind of funny answers and there’s a there’s quite a bond between uh him Pat Bev and Doc Rivers um which I think a lot of fans know uh the way the way that Beverly put it was like you know we’ve been working together for years basically like we we have this kind of understanding he yells at me more than any other coach I’ve ever had and I think he yells at me more than any other player he’s ever had so I think yeah the buck free agents he’s the most most likely to come back but I’ve had this conversation with others as well let’s say the Bucks are bringing in another ball handler or just someone in the back court um who could take minutes away from him even if they’re more like not even a combo guy just someone on the wing like who’s playing the two uh does Pat Beverly want to come back I know he said he might be looking for a little bit of a raise uh in the off season which I don’t know I mean Joe Engles got like 10 Mill bucks last year um so he might be able he might be able to get a little bit more uh and in that case you know the Bucks can’t do that without uh they can’t they can’t bring it back on more than the vet Min really or just a small raise on it unless they get into that exception which again gota get below the second apron so I think if the Bucks are able to you know do some of that if they’re able to go through all these steps we’ve been talking about and let’s say they sign someone with the midlevel or or a minim um there are names I really like for the bucks in the back court uh Chris Dunn would be Sensational to get I don’t think he’ll come in the mid level or on the on a minimum but I think he would he’ll get the mid- level wherever he goes that taxpayer mid level um uh Monte Morris who had kind of a Lost season last year but is a really uh was when he was healthy with Denver and was well yeah it was Washington his previous year was a really great uh like floor general you know guy who doesn’t turn the ball over and passes the ball really well um there’s some other names out there too who are a little bit less sexy Dennis Smith Jr dlon wries good Defenders yeah but uh so I think if any of those guys were to were to come to the bucks then maybe it would cause Pat Beverly to you know take a take a a second and think well maybe I want to go somewhere else where I can go more playing time well and not to mention all those names that you listed are at the very least six years younger than P Beverly I think Chris Dunn was the oldest of the group and he’s gonna turn 31 he’s 30 dlan writes 32 but yeah yeah yeah um yeah so you’re shaving years off of there as well which is the other important piece that we talked about um you going back to the bigs piece and what you mentioned before too of again I would view this as more of a I suppose pie in the sky and it also relates to or or comes back to how do you actually view this player but we’ve seen and or heard I should say more and more Rumblings which is not surprising given how Danny a conducts business that the Jazz have said you know I don’t think Walker Kesler is really our guy we’re listening to offers on him his salary is enough to to send out even and granted you could technically do this it would take more but when you talk about Maran Bo champ and a draft pick as a sweetener that would match under what Walker Kessler is getting paid and you would then have to pay him next season when he would theoretically replace Brook Lopez not a bad suggestion he was a bit of a divisive Prospect uh very good rookie year and not so much last year yeah and what what Utah has done with him I find a little strange like Sensational rookie season and then what do they do they go out and acquire John Collins um who that’s another name that would be an interesting fit with the bucks but that’s that’s a really Hard One to to work um and also has some real drawbacks but with Kesler I remember Mitchell Mau my predecessor uh who has been on this pod many times he he was very anti- Walker Kessler when that draft was coming in and I I just I I was just curious to see how he would how he would do in the league because you know he’s and and just he’s the type of player that you see coming in the league right now and you don’t think will be all that successful because he doesn’t have an out shot you’re probably looking at him a lot like you look at Zack Edy this year um who similar kind of discourse right now uh going into the draft about whether or not you want him on your team uh but kler yeah I mean you could you could sell me on that right now um I think he the the the defense is real the rim protection is great um it’s just a matter of yeah like bringing in another non-shooter uh in that front court with Giannis non- floor spacer you have to find a way to do it I think you know that’s going to involve a lot of people in the dunker spot which of course bud would do from time to time um so yeah that’s that’s just a name you would it’s the same kind of problem you’d have with like Stephen Adams or or Jared Allen what we were talking about earlier and then too if the Bucks are looking to play a more versatile defensive scheme it’s like does Walker kler help you do that exactly or are you going to have to continue doing that drop coverage with him out there on the floor as well so yeah these guys aren’t very switchable are they right right and it’s like if you’re getting rid of Brook for more versatility like why would you go and get Brook Lopez light they cannot shoot as well so that’s something I think about too with with the reports that have come out so far this offseason like what exactly are the Bucks looking to do um with that Center Spot is Giannis more open this year going like now that he’s getting is he more open to playing Center because if that answer is yes I do think that changes some of the conversations that we’re having because I’m assuming we’re all operating out of the sense of what we’ve heard before which is Giannis does not want to play the five that’s how I’m operating and I continue I will continue to do so until I hear different so it’s something to think about too when people are throwing out names like if the Bucks are looking to be more versatile defensively then the center that they’re bringing in would have to be able to do a bit more defensively than what Brook Lopez do did which is be excellent in that drop coverage yeah and to that end one of the things I learned uh about bringing in Ibaka and um not to not to dwell on this too much but uh just in the past thinking about other centers um especially in that year that that Brook Lopez was you know missed most of the season with the back surgery is just that to do what Brook Lopez does in the drop defense um that’s not easy I for years I would I would always think you know there are there are other centers out there who could do it I always looked at Miles Turner um you guys centers who are big quality Rim protectors long um once who are younger than Lopez and maybe a little bit lighter but could could kind of fill that role when the time you know came for Brook Lopez to move on but Ibaka you know had a a great career prior to the you know his his back injury as a Defender like remember him in Toronto and um he was I think he was on an all defense team at one point um he of course not prime Serge Baka but could he couldn’t do what Brook Lopez was doing and he’s someone you looked at as like you know he’s maybe a littleit more mobile than Lopez uh I don’t think just anyone can execute in that drop scheme uh you can’t just take a really good Center on one team and necessarily do it it takes a lot of instincts Brook Lopez’s timing um his vision like and the the ability to guard two players like that’s a length thing but also just you know keeping his head enough on a swivel to where he’s able to deal with a roller and a ball handler and he’s able to move back to the other and then the help can come in uh for whoever you know is he’s he’s not going with it’s just not there’s a big learning curve to that um so it’s it’s that’s the scheme the Bucks have run for years it’s been great if doc doesn’t want to run that as much anymore okay I mean he’s not he’s not uh he’s not Mike buen hter but um then you know May and then maybe in that instance you have like you can you find another Center who can execute in that scheme that that doc wants especially if they’re coming out and hedging more or something like that or or blitzing you know as we saw Bobby poris do but uh you’re going to have to change what you do on defense dramatically if you’re moving on from Brook Lopez you have to basically abandon what worked for you for many years it’s I mean it’s it’s a complicated conversation with Brooke I think all three of us are aligned and we’ve tried to stress the importance that he has and it’s not the best comp but I just go back to a lot of times if if we’re watching a football game and you see a touchdown and you see a guy was wide open your inclination is to blame the cornerback and like well what happened there he got burned when you just don’t know was it a Zone like what type of coverage was it what was his assignment it’s very similar with this as well when you can look at Brook Lopez especially in the first half of the season when we would see him constantly under attack and guys with that little floater scoring off of him and it’s well Brooke is washed and he’s lost a step and he’s not the same guy when everything around him has changed defensively in a defense that was set up to okay we’re going to hold our own and our assignment is to push everything into Brooke led the league in uh shots def yeah and it was the same number it was close it was more than a year ago but last year was by Design or two years ago it was by Design this year it was basically the perimeter was an open door and Brook Lopez was constantly under attack yeah yeah um as we begin to wrap up here so we’ve we’ve touched on the second apron we’ve touched on the draft and and what’s going to make this interesting for financial reasons I don’t know that we’ve fully aligned on what we think to expect in the offseason that I I think at the start of it as we were talking about you kind of talked yourself into well it was a year change and it was a coaching change and another coaching change and Damen Lillard so you can look at this as keep the group as is year two under dock we feel like we’ll be better next year I think the difficulty with that is Camille and I have touched on I know you guys have mentioned it on brw hoop as well is I mean it’s it’s two straight years of the same result that at one point does it start becoming an excuse to say well this happened and Giannis wasn’t healthy that’s the one piece while you can talk me into all the rest that kind of leads me to believe this is not going to be a status quo season for all intents and purposes off season that I think of the names we mentioned I would not be surprised if we saw multiple moved where it’s one move to set something else up to get you under that second apron and then you make another move that I I do think you know you have Damen Lillard and everything we’ve heard from Dame he’s he’s going to be in a much better spot with everything coming into this next season what you saw from Chris in the playoffs the fact that you didn’t see Giannis again but as Camille and I talked about just seeing Damen Lillard and how he played when healthy in that series seeing what Chris Middleton did that gave you part of the equation of okay this does make sense when these guys are healthy we got to fill in the gaps around them yeah it’s I think all this off season what I’ve said uh is just about getting the middle of the roster right I think you have answers um on on either end your star talent and like young some young players who maybe have some future with the team but um aren’t quite at the level of like you know a starter role a high quality role player um and yeah I think one thing about we know about John horest um and I don’t think people maybe fully appreciate but he’s never really sat on his hands um obviously last off season first round exit was he he he pounces for Dame Lillard um major major trade uh happened right before the season kind of set up like you know just a bit of a difficult transition for everybody involved just because the expectations completely changed uh but moreover I think this offseason i’ compare it a little bit more to the 2020 offseason which was like what you got right in between the bubble and when it started in the season started in December of course that was the Bucks Championship season but they really overturned the roster That season I forget the exact numbers but half of the was new yeah and and similarly the previous roster was also kind of old like you looked at the the roster you saw in the bubble um George Hill her son love me some her son uh Robin Lopez Wesley Matthews Kyle corver um Marvin Williams uh these were all guys who were I they were over you know I think they were probably all over 34 at that point um maybe maybe not Matthews or or Hill but they were very close um it was an older roster and then I think you know i’ I’d have to look back but I I thought I remember seeing something it’s like this is they had an older roster that that year or at least the age of players that they sent out if you were to average them all up uh that offseason was was pretty was kind of older and they went into that offseason obviously the the Drew Holiday trade completely reshaped the franchise um they go into a free agency they sign DJ Augustine that wasn’t so great um but they were able to trade him for for PJ Tucker um Bobby poris on the biannual exception uh and they let’s see who else was I I don’t think there was any other real veterans they signed Cory Craig was the guy that they brought in but again traded him early in it um Bren Forbes BR Forbes that’s of when you comp the two years too yeah it was seven guys they had the year prior that had 10 or more years of service in the league and the following year it was four but two of those were Jeff Teague and who was very they come along until later yeah yeah and then DJ Augustine who you traded to get PJ Tucker yeah I think um I I’m glad you brought Forbes because I forgot about him he was actually on that he was a guy they signed a little bit higher than the minimum yeah uh using part of the mid-level exception um so so you know they’ve had some success with that the little midlevel as you sometimes call it in years past they brought in George Hill the following offseason on that like you can sometimes split that up it’s harder now because the value has decreased a little bit and it’s gotten to the point now where what a player if you were to split that between two players at 5.2 million uh what one or both of those players is going to make is probably not much higher than his minimum salary so it’s not worth it to do it for the team or for the player um but back to the original point we were making yeah I think revamping that roster creatively uh that was obviously big Master stroke for horse that offseason that got them a championship um but what the Bucks really need to do when looking you know in the the free agent Market is we’ve talked about this guy in a completely different light but they need to be looking I think for at least player who’s Like Pat conon was in 2018 yeah who came off um you know his rookie deal in he was a second round pick so it wasn’t very long rookie deal in Portland looked like you know had some flashes flashes being a decent role player and the Bucks really developed him I think you know for all the hand ring about the Bucks not having a lot of young players over the last five years I mean they’ve only had two first round picks since um 2018 um and you know one of them is with the team they helped develop him I’d say pretty well but what the Bucks are good at is I think developing guys kind of on that second contract like the the Young Veterans like Bobby poris for example um these were guys who maybe didn’t really have or Javon Carter um guys who didn’t really make an impact in the league prior or or were playing on bad teams didn’t really weren’t really seen as like winning players that was the Bobby poris thing and the Bucks molded them into very high level role players at least for a stretch those days may be behind some of them now but um that’s something the Bucks haven’t really done in the last couple offseasons they’ve gone older they’ve gone like with with established veterans the last guy I remember they brought in who is kind of fitting in who would fit into that that archetype of player like that that kind of career to a te was shmy oel that didn’t work out like it it I think that and maybe that ruined it a a little bit that poisoned the well a little bit where it’s like okay this is a guy we can develop everyone is thinking hey this could be the PJ Tucker replacement you know they they they have similar profiles um I think the Bucks need to kind of do that again now uh and use that minimum or maybe part of the mid level if that’s available on a younger player um and hopefully you know they they develop like into something you know a good a good role player and you can roll over that that contract a bit kind of like they did with you know cont aoris and you can make it into a trade ship for example um as we’re talking about with those contracts now granted a forgettable trade but shmy ojay was part of a trade within that season and that you know to the point that we mentioned another area where John horse deserves credit not only Camille and I have talked about this but getting moves done where you thought there was just no Avenue or resources for the bucks to do it the holiday deal it made sense everybody mentioned that name all throughout the off season and end of that season go get Drew holiday we all signed off on it you just thought I just I just don’t know how the Bucks could do this same with Daman Lillard obviously um so he deserves credit there and also deserves credit with the other names we mention of DJ Augustine it’s not working out we’ll turn two DJs into a PJ and same with shmy oay and some of those Rodney Hood was part of that deal too of this didn’t work let’s let’s trade him as well so he does deserve credit there um and it’s look it’s it’s going to be interesting to see John Horst is able to do this off season but I think it’s a good point a very good comparison to to go back to what they did in uh not the summer but what the late fall early not quite winter November December when they reshaped basically the bench and the middle part of the roster is what you’re looking to do again when you know you have we think Dam Lillard Giannis and and Chris Middleton on the roster uh a lot of good stuff here van and I know you’ve tweeted it out as well all the details around the second apron so if this didn’t clear anything up I would say contact van on Twitter as well or look at any of the tweets that he has uh put out about the Bucks situation is that it’s been the place that we have gone to to uh come up to speed on a lot of this do you guys have anything special planned for draft night to brew hoop it’s in the works right now we’re going to do uh I know you two are doing a lot live stream so sorry to you know s sorry that we’re we’re going to be you know competing with you in the same time slot um but uh yeah we’re gonna try to do a live stream we set up something SP Nation our parent Network partnered with a a a new kind of startup recently um towards the end of last year called playback where playback is cool yeah yeah okay so you two are familiar basically it’s like um it’s kind of like the it’s like a watch alone the Manning cast sort of what they did for Monday Night Football um we did them for the playoff games where like yeah people can tune in and watch using their league pass subscription or we also can get in some people without a subscription they can watch the game with some of us from bruh Hoopa we brought in some special guests we brought in Jim pashy we brought in um Brian Samson who you you two know of course um Frank for one of the games too so yeah I’m I’m working I am working on uh someone to join us on draft night um but I will be joined I think I I’ll do it um we will be joined live from uh from ferve by Gabe saltz um once the the pick is made and when there’s you know a presser and everything we’ll have him on for some live reaction but otherwise it’ll be me and uh Jackson gross who’s one of our other contributors who’s a great draft resource great talent evaluator I would I actually I would encourage you Camille especially to read his piece on Tyler kak the other day if you haven’t already it was a good okay good it it was I it was a fun read I I really enjoyed that one so um more the marrier with with all the Bucks content that is out there especially when we think back to you guys at Brew hoop were the Pioneers basically that was it that was out there you knew you weren’t gon to get it and Charles Gardner and Company at the Journal Sentinel but you knew you weren’t getting nationally yeah bucketball as well um rip bucketball that was a good one yeah uh but really good to catch up with you and hopefully we cleared up a lots of questions and set the table for what is as we’ve kind of gone back and forth I think we’re all aligned it’s going to be a pretty busy offseason for the bucks that I I don’t think it’s just gonna be one move that is made by this team yeah seems like there gonna be multiple moves multiple yeah I really don’t think they’re gonna sit on their hands yeah uh well that’s what we have going on for the rest of the week as van mentioned as well they’re doing a live stream Camille and I are going to do we still haven’t Hamed out the time yet that we’re going to do it um but we are going to do some components of a live show during night one of the NBA draft we think we’re gonna have Frank on uh the following day to get his thoughts recap that as well and then maybe we’re talking about a trade that has already been made by the bucks on night one of the NBA draft but appreciate everybody for tuning in to this extensive conversation and to Van as well for giving us the time today to knock this one out for Camille and Van I am Justin we’ll talk to you once again tomorrow un locked on bucks

Justin and Camille continue their conversation with Van Fayaz of BrewHoop.com, digging into the Bucks offseason. Is there one name that seems the most likely to be moved? What are the Bucks goals this offseason and why is it that this summer may be very similar to what the Bucks did in November of 2020? We get into it in part two of the conversation on the latest Locked on Bucks.

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