Is Mikal Bridges on the trade block for the Brooklyn Nets?

Is Mikal Bridges on the trade block for the Brooklyn Nets?

coming up as the NBA draft approaches of course male Bridges is untouchable right I mean right we dive in coming up [Music] next you are locked on Nets your daily Brooklyn Nets podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day ah yes my friends it is the lockon Nets podcast right here in the lockon podcast Network it’s your team the Brooklyn Nets every single day he’s Doug Nory I’m Adam arrick we thank you as always for making us your first listen of the day we are 100% free on all those great platforms and let you know today’s episode is brought to by FanDuel make every moment more right now FanDuel is hooking up all customers with a boost or a bonus daily that’s right there’s something for everyone every day all summer long visit fanduel.com locked on to get started and Doug we have to ask the question is it that the Brooklyn Nets have already decided what their future is and that’s why they don’t need to make any moves or could they still be considering what would be seismic shifts in their roster specifically around Mel Bridges I think we’ve always kind of known that while the front-facing sort of like company line around male Bridges is you know he’s part of the future we’re going to build around him we’re going to bring another stars and I think that probably like that is the main goal but we also have ALS Al over the over this time talked about the idea that like even if it wasn’t the main goal that would be the only thing you said anyway because you would never come out as an organization and say well we’ll see maybe maybe with Mel Bridges I’m not sure like blow us away because you just never want to do that in terms of like the public or just in front of other teams or whatever so when we hear that Jake fiser reports uh over Monday evening that says the Nicks Jazz and Rockets are three teams that have been checking in on M Bridge’s availability it’s one of those situations where you you know like you said in the open is that you know is he really Untouchable I think we’ all agree of course not right for the right price he can be had there’s PE there’s teams there’s guys on teams that no one would ever call about no one’s calling the Dallas to say hey what’s Luca’s availability no one’s calling Denver to say hey what’s you know what’s jokic’s availability and there’s there’s that class of guys Bridges clearly isn’t in that class or anywhere close so I think hearing Rumblings that he the teams are still thinking like let’s keep calling because we don’t know what their you know let we don’t know what their overall level of commitment here makes total sense to me and the more these things come out the more I think there is some chance that eventually some kind of huge offer comes in the net say yes I don’t think it’s likely but it’s for sure like way higher than zero yeah I I think that to your point about the Rumblings heading in towards the draft you know that maybe it’s a weak draft class we said before that this draft class over the last month or so I think you’ve seen five six seven players that in different levels of spectrum there’s guys right near the top but there’s also players that were talked about near the back end of the first round that through some of the combine workouts all of a sudden they’re getting a little bit of steam so there’s enough probably names or prospects that you could look at if you are the Brooklyn Nets receiving some of these calls and maybe getting back some control maybe it is Houston with that pick third overall you go okay there’s a real pivot opportunity here the other side of it when you mention fiser and some of the the rumored teams I think get this one out of the way at the top do have you changed your position because have I I hate when I ask you a question but don’t assert my my own opinion on it I I’ve changed my stance on the idea that the only way you trade Mel Bridges is to Houston for all of your picks back and while that’s the best version and while if Houston wants to make any type of version of that trade it’s the first one that you want to start in on I do think that at a high level to sit to sit here as the Brooklyn Nets and say that’s the only way that we would make a decision like this around Mel Bridges it feels like you are holding on to trying to correct a mistake and if if you’re going to do that then you may be short selling yourself on two or three other teams that have a lot of players have a lot of picks and can at least help you turn the corner if moving on from male and other veterans is the plan you end up going with yeah I mean these things always come down to what is the actual thing right so like it’d be crazy to say no one would ever say it’s only this or bust it’s just the easiest answer because that’s the cleanest the the Houston thing is the cleanest fit and short of just going into Infinity different examples of other things that we would say yes to it’s just easier to say that because the oftentimes the other things are not realistic but I mean are there other deals out there that would make sense for for the Nets of course of course like it’s just it’s just sometimes the marriage of you know functional and reality or you know for functional and fictional doesn’t always meet up because it’s just like other teams aren’t going to come in those offers so yeah no I don’t think Houston’s the only way to go here there’s probably a jazz package for instance if that’s one of the teams that could make sense yeah um you know if you if you really look at it with young players and some picks and some stuff like that they might not be amazing over the next few years in the west like I think there’s a lot of stuff that could line up It’s just sometimes it’s just hard to out outside of just going into these crazy scenarios that are unlikely to actually be pushed in front of Shawn marks and Company that’s the reason we just always defaulted to the Houston think makes sense because it’s super super clean you get your back you control your own dra D draft Destiny to a point and you can kind of just see it like unfold in front of you a little a little easier yeah and I think that makes it interesting leading up towards the draft now Houston Utah you know we all know that every single on the network we know the guys that cover the Knicks have been knocking on the door just saying like listen just speculatively if we wanted to reunite all the Villanova guys what would it take to do that you know there’s going to be those type of realistic unrealistic versions of those trades I will find it fascinating if we come away from this draft and we’re going to talk about leading into it here as we go forward today but I would find it fascinating if we come out of this draft and we hear all the versions of all the packages maybe from X number of teams that called Shawn marks and the Brooklyn Nets and if I can go two ways with it if the Brooklyn Nets you hear said they considered them you know but ultimately couldn’t come to an agreement or whatever it was but if the idea is that we find out that definitively every call that was made to Brooklyn was simply them taking the calls but never considering the offers that were being made on those calls I it’ll be one of those moments again with Shan marks and Joe where you go then what what are we doing here because then it means that you came in with blinders on you were unwilling to assess legitimate packages to maybe go in a different direction and you can look at that as being okay they made up their mind this is the core they’re going with and 202 offseason is the agenda but I I guess maybe it just comes back to whether or not we agree that’s the best path forward versus looking at the options getting younger getting more draft capital and saying yeah ultimately we see the landscape we’re not going to be competitive over the next two years maybe three years let’s strike now when it seems like the value for Mel Bridges continues to be at a pretty much alltime High yeah and and and also the landscape’s constantly shifting too around the NBA things you might have thought going into last season we’re going to shake out aren’t shaking out possibly it’s like oh Donovan Mitchell is GNA G to out out of Cleveland well that’s looking more and more like he’s going to resign there and and get an extension and you’re like okay well that was a big chip that we thought we could probably push in for and maybe that’s not going to be the case but then you get like Darr Darren Fox who’s not gonna looks like he’s not gonna sign his extension right now is he gonna shake loose in 2025 I mean maybe so then you start talking yourself into that right or like maybe some of these younger teams made pushes earlier and these guys aren’t going to be um these guys aren’t going to be as available the Bucks folded a little earlier than possible so maybe Yiannis could be there I mean like the landscape’s always changing so you’re always trying to evaluate it I will say the path of we don’t have a star already and we’re just waiting for other stars to come is very shaky ground to begin with it’s a little different when you already have a guy and you are just trying to find the next guy not having the guy yet has been a place where we’ve always failed to totally probably see the vision here I I think that’s like that we’ve been very we’ve stood very strong on this one it’s like this star chasing thing is all good when you have a guy that you can just you and you’re just trying to pair them every once in a blue moon you get the KD kyy double dip free agent thing but that just doesn’t happen anymore and so I just that’s where we’ve always kind of stopped short on this hey have a ton of cap space and 25 and plus the pcks and you’re going to make it all work it like it takes a lot a lot to have that to fall into place a lot that’s completely out of your control and so while draft slots and draft picks are also kind of out of your control it’s in these two scenarios that those seem a little more controllable but you know with Bridges I I think this is something that they have to be just sort of like really hardcore thinking about and I think that’s why I don’t think it’s a mistake you’re hearing these things like from fishering company constantly like hey for a guy who’s Untouchable he seems pretty touchable right so seems like I’m pretty close to this guy who says he’s Untouchable you know it’s I wish there was another word by the way I’ve run into this I we’ll get break here in a second but I’ve run into this a few times where I’m like I really wish there was another word because like besides untouchable when it comes to like NBA players and stuff because this is just one that just never feels like it sounds amazing when you say it but hey that’s a context thing all right we are GNA get a little bit bit more into where Bridges could possibly land should the Nets do it will there be a move made 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over to fanduel.com lockon to make the most out of your summer FanDuel official sports betting partner of Major League Baseball and as we continue today’s lockon Nets episode we remind you get over to YouTube get in the comments what is an alternative to Untouchable because frankly we want to have these discussions on the podcast but it’s not there’s got to be something better I don’t know what it would be maybe unobtainable who knows for sure there you go unobtainable that’s a let’s go with that one it’s doesn’t roll off the tongue um as cleanly but let’s use that one from now on but it doesn’t roll off the tongue as cleanly but the alternative sounds a little dirty so that’s the weird part here right that’s why you switch it up if male Bridges shouldn’t be Untouchable or unobtainable then when we look at these packages do you think that there’s a version of it when you look like at Utah if you look at some of these teams around the league that would make sense for a fit the thing that I come back to is probably maybe something that does hold me back a little bit in these discussions we do the network internal mock draft you you could get some more information about this as it comes out they may end up doing some you know Recaps of how it unfolded and I went into it representing the Nets trying to accomplish the objective of moving on from everybody let’s tear this thing down so it’s Mel Bridges it’s Cameron Johnson and storan Finny Smith first and foremost and without going into the full details of it I accomplished that goal I walked out of the draft with an additional four or five first round picks some swaps involved another handful of second round picks and some young players now to different levels in terms of expectation or where you think they are but do you think that it matters for Brooklyn what they get back in these trades I mean we know it does but short of it being Houston and all their picks do you think it matters about Young player that they can build with Cam Thomas around they can resign Nicholas Claxton and then showcase our young core or do you think they solely would want to care about every single possible pick you could give me under the Sun every single contract that expires this season and then we can move forward with an enormous cap space in 2025 the biggest problem with the bridges thing um from a uh just like a narrative perspective is that he’s the last sort of like he’s the last like guy in face of the sort of the failed KD Kyrie Harden uh trades right because what what they traded Bridges and kept Johnson as The Face of the trade and this is where this is where they also run into like I think what’s probably a pretty sizable roadblock is that you know what’s left from the Harden piece well you know a Philly draft pick that was you know either Clowny or DQ Whitehead okay um could be good good but it’s not like it’s not really tied one to one Kyrie what’s the what’s like the thing there it’s like well the Dallas pick hasn’t come to fuan yet and Spencer did what he’s gone and Dorian finy Smith may or may not be traded so it’s like okay what do we really get from that and with KD it was okay well we got all these Suns picks we can’t really attach a face to those I we hope they’re going to be good in the future and it’s male Bridges who came in and absolutely lit the world on fire in his first couple months like in a Brooklyn Nets uniform I think trading him for just for picks I mean forget like salary matching which you would have to do also but but trading just for picks just doesn’t have it’s like just so harder to sell so much harder to sell right and but isn’t okay so and I I agree with you and isn’t that then the problem if this is what the if this is how the Brooklyn Nets are approaching it of well then what are we selling them and don’t get me wrong it’s a product and it’s you need to sell tickets I understand it but if the ideas that you get hung up on boy that’s going to be a hard sell if you if you organizationally believe in the package that is surround is primarily about picks and future faces potentially of the franchise then I it feels like you’re getting caught up in the pr Battle of it all to be like oh if we don’t have someone to sell to the fan base right now then it’s going to be hard to just say wait two three years which it will be but that best offers are best offers for a reason it doesn’t always have to be about what’s the pr angle of this I I agree I agree I’m not saying I’m not saying yeah I know you’re not yeah I’m just I’m speaking strictly what I think is probably the thought process and and and it makes sense like there’s a there’s a cognitive bias around wanting to like sort of maintain a level of you know look what we did in the face of sort of like player star adversity when it came to KD KY and Harden right did we weather the storm and get like real functional NBA guys back or is it just going to be up to our draft Acumen later on to kind of figure it out it’s much better it’s much better to have both obviously um and when Bridges becomes the guy then you are probably going to end up overvaluing him just on that alone I get it I’m not actually even blaming them I I’m just saying that this is probably what’s this is what’s got them stuck in between if like they he’s the last guy like there’s no one left like what do they get they got some picks and they got a bunch of guys who were kind of out the door already and that’s gonna and and by the way bridge is like a great dude and the contract’s great and he’s really really good like there’s other things here it’s not just like he’s just some bum that came over like he’s a really good player on a great contract by all accounts an amazing dude this is just the kind of guy you want to sort of like refashion some of the narrative around your franchise but that’s not g to mean as much to other teams so there therefore the the the deals that come in just aren’t going to be anywhere close to like how the Nets value him and and that’s part I think the problem here too for Brooklyn is when you make those trades for the superstars Kyrie and Kevin Durant when it’s Mel Bridges that comes back in I I I think there’s two ways you could have gone with it now obviously it represented well we got back not only picks but also very good players players we believe we can build around but you also committed like maybe overcommitted to that narrative male Bridges is the new face of the organization and he’s going to be the core going forward then over that year and a half you see that okay he’s a he’s a great guy and he represents everything you want for the organization he’s a very good player but he’s obviously not going to be or shouldn’t be or can’t be the first or second best player on your roster if you want to really achieve something so now you shift it a little bit okay well Mel Bridges is a great guy and he’s a great player and if you just wait two years then we’ll get the next layer of this deal and in the interim I think if you’re a lot of the fan base potentially excuse me I always get choked up when I talk about the fans emotional they support us you look at it and say well okay Mel bridge is at 27 is a little bit different than male Bridges at 29 and 30 like you know so when you move the timeline a little bit on where the expectations are that’s where I then think you start to get the rumbling from the fan base and you start to get the speculation from the NBA of so what is really the goal here and while while I think it’s fine and that that first couple of months that look so good for M obviously got us all very excited you probably would have been better suited to say we’re very excited about the players we got in return and about what it will offer for us in the future to continue to reshape the franchise if you did that and then said nothing going forward you could sit here today today and say yeah we’re going to we’re looking at offers for Mel Bridges because we haven’t attached this perception about what he means to the organization and I think the Nets have always sometimes in a good way been concerned about representing the organization and how they want the organization to be seen and that can sometimes in a negative way override what should be smart decisions or what should be Progressive moves for the Brooklyn Nets coming up here in a second quiet Doug we’ll go ahead and see how Doug feels about my perspective and also answer the question ultimately do the Brooklyn Nets stand Pat or blow this bad boy up heading into the draft this week we’ll get into it in just one moment okay so we want to turn here and ask that big bold question about what the Nets will ultimately do Doug but do in terms of that that perception in PR battle and maybe labeling male a certain way do you think that the Nets are having a little bit of remorse on on selling that version of this team season and a half ago well yeah because I forgot the one other piece I wanted to add before we get to this final draft piece is that the other guy he’s so forgettable at this point because it was supposed to be Simmons that was like this guy that was like the next it was actually supposed to be Ben Simmons that was the Ben Simmons and I didn’t all I went all through the stuff they got back from all those trades and I never even mentioned him which is sad because I’m just like he’s just so far a field of like thinking about him as like a functional piece of the organization when it also goes so so bad on that front too then you start weighing these other guys even more you weigh the other stuff more because I just again I went through all the stuff that got back on all these trades I didn’t even mention him he was easily the biggest piece like of of all the stuff they got back and it’s flamed out in such a spectacular passion so just wanted to throw that in there be remiss without mentioning that like his flameout actually contributes more to the bridges piece also is that like we swung and missed so bad on that one that now Bridges gains even more and and this other people this would be the difference here too in terms of areas where I think the Net’s organization made a mistake Because by the time you make that trade for Kevin with Kevin Durant and the Suns you’ve already now you’ve already kind of had the problem with Ben Simmons and the injuries and being healthy and available so if your if your narrative building was we’re gonna get male Bridges and cam Johnson then Ben Simmons he’ll be 100% healthy he’ll be our second best player our first best player he’ll be the lead guy and these guys will support well then I’m sorry you were already constructing you know you were working with popsicle sticks when you’re trying to build a sound foundation for a real house right like you can’t go forward with that type of thought process in that moment now you can also say that if you’re the organization you’re coming out of having Superstars and all the sudden they all want to leave for various different reasons you go I wasn’t exactly thinking clearly I was just kind of hoping something would come out of this where we didn’t look like a franchise that very briefly had Superstars did not achieve any level of success that we anticipated and then ultimately had to blow it up and now know that coming up we may be looking at a weird kind of handful of years where we’ve got a lot of picks don’t have our own pick control players that are good but not great and we’re in this ambiguous space I I so I can see that part of it I don’t even mean this negatively I’m sure fans react to it a certain way but running an organization having your job doing whatever you’re doing your life and going well that did not work out the way I anticipated like and what am I going to do now I think that that’s a big part of what’s happened for Brooklyn oh it’s it’s it’s the happen for Brooklyn it’s everything it’s everything it’s Brooklyn would have Kevin Durant right now playing out the back end of his career right like I mean you know we talk about like him going to Phoenix it’s like that’s the dream even if they weren’t winning championships just still having Kevin Durant and playing you know high level basketball and being in the playoffs and selling seats that would have been a version of the dream and by the way and like this is why heading into this draft I think that like other H it’s funny because I think other organizations and fans too see this in a totally different way so actually what’s part of probably the frustration or the head scratching or hair pulling like version of this is with whoever you are whether it’s other team a fan or whatever is that everyone else doesn’t see this situation with the same cognitive bias that probably the Nets do yeah which is you know like because they’re like I think for a lot of other people if you’re an independent thought person it’s like hey real like I think we know what we should do here right like I I think that this should be like it didn’t work it’s time to sort of blow it up reset we haven’t done this in 20 years or whatever and and like it’s just time to try to reset the deck as much as possible but we’re not in the building you know and so and and that just is always going to be a hard to thing it’s like whenever it’s why you value your house a certain way it’s why you value the stocks you bought certain differently like the ownership the ownership bias you have around something is much different than someone just looking at your portfolio and be like hey well why are we still holding here like you know what you think that’s why everyone thinks their kids are so impressive right it’s like oh a good examp that’s another good example right it’s like you know those things are always going to retain a higher value in the eye of the of the you know of whoever is you know seeing them and dealing with them on a daily basis that probably has happened to a pretty significant degree here there is a story like we said at the beginning where this could still work right 2025 you hold out for one more year blah blah blah so it’s not all that but I do think that it’s been un like they’ve un probably unreasonably weighted their their situation and they probably the wrong direction one thing here as we close out and I want to ask that you know do we think ultimately the Nets do make a big move is there something surprising here because as we know usually when it’s all quiet for Brooklyn it doesn’t tell you one thing or the other they they are tight lipped and then the thing happens whether it’s a trade or otherwise um a note about the internal uh mock draft scenario where I was trying to clear the deck here one thing that is worth mentioning is that in going through that process the one goal that I also had was eliminating any type of money that I could I’ll I’ll break one thing here Ben Simmons is still on the on the roster I could I couldn’t do anything with him but everything I took back was either a young player on a low contract or a contract that expires this year so while the Nets are already looking at 2025 offseason saying we have a ton of money to work with I went ahead increased that by 30 to 40 million dollar like the Nets will have every single opportunity to go into 2025 with some young pieces on the roster but to go in and look at the landscape and say I’ll take two superstars I’ll take two superstars on a high level guy whatever that may look like I’ll have 15 first round picks to go ahead and throw at teams if I need to sweeten the pot and I just wonder if that is a a feasible version for the Nets where they go hey with all the money in the world and all the draft capital in the world maybe we actually do rebuild this thing in a competitive way and it looks completely different than anything that we see before us right now ultimately do you think the Nets will field an offer for male Bridges before in or around draft night uh no I don’t think they will um I just don’t think it’s going to happen I mean maybe post-draft something like that you know like when things calm down a little bit free agency shakes out like we see some other uh maybe some other things I don’t think leading into this draft I think we’re probably too close to it to to see I think they’re probably I think there’s something with the Nets that probably makes sense where it’s like let’s see how some of this other stuff shakes out like let’s see what happens in Atlanta with Trey with Trey young and deante Murray like let’s see what happens with I mean what are some of the other like major said let’s see what happens with Paul George like let’s see what happens how some of these other teams end up shaking out I think that actually probably does benefit the Nets to be late that better late than early on the on some of those things because you just there could be some ground Brandon Ingram like there’s other guys of varying levels of just like Talent superstar that are gonna are gonna are gonna shift places here and that’s going to change the league but not really change the Nets view of it or sorry it’s not going to change like probably better for worse than Nets but it’ll just make it different and and a new situation to look at let’s see what happens with Garland let’s see if Mitchell actually signs like I think there’s like no reason to probably at this point rush it unless they were like hey it’s am and Thompson and all the picks back right that’s not gonna happen yeah so like short of something like that I don’t think it makes sense for the Nets to like rush it into this because the landscape is about to change and one other thing that I know that I learned as well doing I think internally with the network in and then looking at the way teams are getting talked about the way players are getting talked about is to make a decision about male Bridges even if it is a significant offer even if it’s not Houston the the the behind the next step of that is okay Dorian finy Smith you know cam Johnson let’s let’s start to strip this thing down and I think it’ll it would be interesting to see how that unfolded for the Brooklyn Nets organization communicating to the league that we ready to move on still wanting value and then turning around and and running into to these issues right of of where do we evaluate a a role player like cam Johnson it it may all of a sudden become oh yeah Pennies on the dollar for him as well so I think there’s probably a push and pull there for this organization too around making sure you get the right value at the right time and you could be correct that when the dust settles from the draft and some teams that wanted to go get a guy or wanted to make a trade for one of those other names they may look over to the Brooklyn Nets and who knows maybe the value starts to spike again here it’s interesting to watch the unfortunate thing as dougle wrap up here for us is the Nets don’t seem to be making any news or any waves heading into the draft tomorrow well I’ll tell you right now what’s going to happen I’m going to call this it’s 8 it’s 800 a.m. on I just looked at the clock wrong it’s Tuesday more let’s just say here’s I’m gonna do you I’m gonna learn how to read then I’m gonna tell you what time it is okay I’m headed out of the house here I’m gonna be gone all day today and I’m gonna be gone almost all my god get ready tomorrow yeah this historically yes around these times when I know I’m not going to be around is when the Nets do something like and so I know I’m not going to be able to do an emergency podcast for like a decent amount of like Tuesday and Wednesday so you can almost guarantee that this is going to come up you know why because it sticks Adam it has Adam hold in the back on being able to do all the emergency content so there you go folks if you’re if you want to look at any any like little light coming off the ocean here as to guide you to short it’s that uh I can’t I’m not gonna be able to podcast here uh for the next 48 hours so that means the Nets are probably going to do something all right we’re g to get out of here make sure you subscribe to lockon Nets over on YouTube because if something does break Adam’s got you covered live we’ll be going live on locked on Nets over on YouTube you got to subscribe so you know if it happens subscribe to locked on Nets on YouTube hard or impossible to get to or to get at why that is the definition of unobtainable the alt who said that the dictionary Webster okay we got I don’t can’t call we gotta take who the poet is here so let’s try that again is a part of the process Hold on said it yeah give me a second hold on ready let’s reset if if you’re watching or listening just you back up with us too hard or impossible to get to or get at why that’s the definition of unattainable from Webster’s Dictionary I’m one of the all-time great poets we back again 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While Sean Marks and the Brooklyn Nets have said publicly that Mikal Bridges is unattainable in a trade, there continue to be reports about teams inquiring about him. What is the real story here? If Bridges really wasn’t available, why would these reports still be coming out?

It’s a confusing situation, possibly, with the Nets still stuck in between different modes or rebuilding or retooling during this offseason. The Locked on Nets take a look at the Mikal Bridges situation leading into the draft.

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