Will the Detroit Pistons Trade IVEY, DUREN or AUSAR?
so obviously Treon said he’s willing to wait it out with this young C yes he didn’t speak to IV specifically yes but we know what the young core is it it’s he he Kade Darren and assar I’m assuming that’s what the young core is when he said that those are the heems he’s speaking of the heems yes okay are you cool with that no I I’ve said it before I think two of those five assets need to be moved before next year and those five assets being Ivy Duren assur uh the number five pick and Stuart right Stewart yeah Stuart Ivy Duren assur and the five pick two of those five need to be moved before next year so I I don’t know what two of those are I’m not going to be mad if two any of the two that go the two that I’d like to keep the most are assur and Duren uh so we’ll see what happens but I don’t think you could just run it back with with that roster so you hate K C I love K Cunningham so two you’d rather keep you said K Cunningham was not a part of the five he’s what he’s part of your your young four what do you mean part of five I 100% I guess I did 100 totally 100% of me all right lay it on me one more one more game out of these five assets who the five Stewart oor Ivy Duren and the number five pick two of those need you can’t have two of those next year I’m cool with it in a in a situation that I ini wisman is gone to that’s true wisan was part of the young Corp oh yeah he was renounced today I believe the right were renounced wasn’t it [ __ ] he’s going to be playing for the Guangdong commodity either way would he would he cook clinging in the post probably he’s going to be hanging out with K Kellan overseas here shortly we saw him cooking up backups in the in the post the back half of the seon and people like oh my God yeah look at him look at him go he’s going to be a staron effect it’s like I’m not even go there because we’re on this topic I would be cool with it and I can make sense of it in terms of keeping this young core in this way because obviously the team was [ __ ] awful last year but the way I’d be cool with it is if you do a piece that I wasn’t initially cool with and that is grabbing Tobias Harris yeah and maybe and or another vet along with it because at that point you can win games and you could put Ivy Duren whoever it may be in a in a winning scenario to just make them look better and just raise their value by that you know what I’m saying like start Tobias with Cade then allow Ivy to get working with fono get his assist numbers up let him run the floor as like the guy staggered so you propping him up to staggered F yeah exactly you know what I’m saying you’re putting lipstick on the pigstick on the Pig making it look a little bit prettier because again I’s rookie year he looked a lot better he who was on the court with him his rookie year who who was in okay I could tell you who wasn’t on the side lines yeah yeah Kade wasn’t there Ivy looked better so yeah stagger him that way get some vetan pieces win games so it looks like you at least like win or do something with this and then yeah yeah don’t stagger like Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum stagger them like yeah somebody else I I just think of it all the time like what do you think these worldclass athletes who perfect their bodies and health think of us two fat [ __ ] sitting up here calling lipstick on the I think about that all the [ __ ] time dude like when I’ve yelling at my phone about the Tigers I’m like what if like Spencer Tolson sees this it’s like who’s this [ __ ] fat inter like telling me I can’t hit I don’t know it’s true hey Brian windhorse told Luca he’s out of shape so I guess it doesn’t really matter he’s lazy he’s lazy he’s out of shape he doesn’t put in any effort yeah um yeah I’d be cool in in that aspect you know what I’m saying raise the value cuz I got to be honest with you as much as I thought you get a lot more out of ivy last year I feel like his value is like at an alltime low right now I think a big reason why it is at an all-time low is because of Monty Williams he set him up for failure last season I would be down to see them run it back again with upgraded Talent around those two specifically Kate and Ivy and then like you talked about stagger them where ivy can play that number one type role where we have seen him struggle at times with Kate Cunningham but if he’s um you know if the minutes are staggered and he has is the lead ball handler I think we could see him thrive in that role but I think for me the guy out of these assets that I would trade is AAR because he simply can’t shoot that’s where I’m at with thear Thompson if you cannot shoot you cannot play in this league I would try to sell high on him which I don’t even know what his um return would be because of the injuries and the obvious um health concerns with the blood clot so real quick can I can I ask just cuz I’ve heard this a few times now yeah and I could probably get an idea for I feel like this guy generally just failed the team but where did Monty fail Ivy specifically he started killing and ha 31 games last you think that was him trying to you know stagger the trying to stagger him I don’t think there’s yeah I don’t think there’s any excuse when you’re starting a guy and Killian Hayes over a guy like jayen iy there’s no excuse I get the initial thought process again cuz I think they work better stagger but it’s killing is so [ __ ] bad there no there’s no justifying that one specifically he wanted to by the way k cut from the French team for all you guys that was sharing that little workout video yeah surpris he looked like jumbo Julian Newman like you guys know who Julian Newman is he does these stupid he was this High School Phenom he’s like 52 and dribbles like a bulldog and like when Killian did it he looked I was like no way he’s just turning into tall Julian Newman and yeah Killian’s dog waterer he might not even get signed by a Chinese team have to play in to be honest with you I I feel like we go play for that Lithuanian team that lamelo played for for a while yeah there you go do you think we could see one of these guys move tonight fellas yes I I think it’s quite possible I mean Ste that’s why like when I said my young core I didn’t clue St in there because I just I think he’s older than all of them one and secondly they’re already talking about like you know getting a gauge on his market so I I didn’t really include him that’s the thing too this team won 14 games so if you’re counting K C him who’s obviously going to be a part of the rotation so it’s six but we’re not we’re not keeping them so for all intense purposes the five asset a Spencer name you are not keeping six things in a rotation of a 14 sorry five things in a rotation from a 14- win team you’re just you’re not like you have to get rid of I’m with Spencer you get rid of two of them you look at you you look at I I’m the highest on the core for obviously of Cade Ivy assar Duran but I think you really got to look at moving one of those four that’s not named K cuningham and call them the core four I yeah cuz I mean what what have they been like what they that’s not a COR of any good team exactly like that is just your four just call them your yeah it’s your lottery picks that have been jumbled together to get you the most consecutive losses in NBA history that’s what your core for is you can’t bring back I mean a 10 a 10-man rotation is a lot in the NBA so like you can’t have half of your rotation be from a 14- win team you just can’t do it Ma mathematics say I don’t care how early it is to move off these young guys you got to unless you’re just burying them deep in the rotation they’re not even in the rotation anymore like AAR or an ivy and I don’t necessarily see that happening either yeah and it sucks cuz yeah like they’re all good guys I’m sure like I I love Ivy as as a person but yeah like it’s a business it’s a business and we might have just failed him you know what I mean I met him before M we did fail him was it going to [ __ ] work we did fail we did fail him we have people you hate Ivy you hate no I don’t [ __ ] hate Ivy I just hate the fit I hate the fit I’ve always said this before the [ __ ] draft you could work in a situation where he’s the guy and and his rookie year you saw it when he was the guy and there was no K cun him it looked like somebody could be somewhat promising you put them together not the same it’s it’s we failed him by [ __ ] making the selection if you knew he had value at that point if you’re Troy Weaver and that night I said it not even that night but on the way to that draft Troy selects yeah J iy or he’s not stupid enough to select j i I wanty listen you at that point and you know he holds value you New York really really wanted him they already own one of your picks you should have negotiate something there CU now we’re in a situation where we need assets or at least to use our picks to go grab a veteran piece and we can’t because New York owns our [ __ ] first round pick for the next like 3 to four years at that point you should have got our pick back and something else and you gave them Ivy we wanted Mitchell Robinson at that point too we end up getting D yeah well remember the report I mean maybe for Ivy they would have liked it more but when we were engaging with them on Boon they were not interested in giving up the rights to our pick and I don’t blame them because what if this organization tells you that you should get rid of that pick everything tells you hey keep that Pistons pick man be top 15 yeah for sure yeah the very least [Music]
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31 Comments
The level of intellectual curiosity in this community is invigorating. It's a joy to be surrounded by such inquisitive minds.🧡
It's true..one of them have to go! It might be Ivey or Aussar.. Duran is here for the long run
The only way to do this is build back from the ground up. Deal Cade tonight and the party has begun.
Keep them all. Coach is trash. And pistons were screwed in the draft by Adam Silver of not getting Victor.
Folks really want to trade away our young core talent is beyond me!! If you’re on board with that you don’t know shit about basketball 🤦🏾♂️
I do not understand why Ivey couldn't be the PG and primary ball handler using his cutting ability to open up the perimeter and allow Cade to live in the mid range where he thrives. Cade's largest issue is turn overs when he dribbles himself into a double team.
Nobody needs to go…the pistons have 60 plus million in cap and can't attract any quality free agent… watching the starting lineup Cade Ivey and Duren need two quality forward who can actually shoot and defend…in 2022..2023 season they had B. Bogdanović and defender in S. Bey also they were better than average three point shooters who help space the floor as well as I. Stewart who would occasionally shoot the three ball so the spacing was much better…even without Cade for most of the season the was much better floor spacers in the starting lineup…you'll need to learn more about baseball and stop calling for quick fix trades….get some 3&d forwards Tobias Harris DE'ANDRE HUNTER
Jerami Grant
Harrison Barnes
Obi Toppin
Caleb Martin
Patrick Williams
mikal bridges jus went for 5 plus first round picks who is not even a all star…who can the pistons trade for that can really make a difference
Things just got interesting with the drafting of Holland.
I am not debating Cade's improvements. But, he continually dribbled into double team turnovers. When ever Cade would put his back to the primary defender, the secondary defender would swipe at the ball causing a turnover. When Cade was able to roam and move with out the ball, the offensive actually looked fluid a quick. Lots of ball movement. Just an opinion based on what I watched all season.
Trade Ausar
WTF !!!! Holland is our pick ? I'm done ! 😆🏀
If this team trade Duren after 1 season at 20 years old, averaging 14 & 10……they will go down as the dumbest fuks ever
Ivey is gone
Trade AUSAR? Idiot
Ivey has no business running the ball up the court. He will just run around, and throw the ball away.
I'm sorry, but what I see is Stanley Johnson the 2nd in our pick.
Cade needs spacing and Holland does not provide that. The Pistons are too worried about filling the seats around the conference table, and not concerned enough with the team on the floor. I hope future moves will be with the TEAM in mind.
Y’all fuckin hilarious
Cade needs to play with a bunch of veterans that want to sit in the corner and wait on the ball
Everyone else run the floor all game that’s why we go on minor streaks win Cade is hurt and go on a losing streak when he returns
you dont send your best defender off in Ausar… im moving stew and ivey
tray·juhn
Has anyone actually watched Tobias Harris play lately?
4:18 stop blaming Monty for Ivey
He played minutes and what happened? Lame excuses
YOUR 4.!!!!!!!!🎉😂🎉
There is nobody in the trade block that is worth trading for.
Yall need to stop talking basketball
Trading the guy who fucked up Team USA with the 2nd unit is a crazy take
You guys are the worst sports page in Michigan!!
And it's TrajEN
Stop blaming Monty for Ivey being bad at basketball
If there’s one thing Woodward is gonna do is push that anti Ivey narrative
DO NOT trade Duren.