Jacked Ramsays Live: Blazers Trade for Deni Avdija and 2024 NBA Draft Show
what’s going on everybody Welcome to Jack Dam’s Danny mang Brandon sprag live from our respective homes because uh everything is crazy up down left right we had planning on going live in probably about 15 more minutes uh but uh well Joe Crono and the Gang decided to not uh let us do that because they have made a trade and uh it is one that was kept very very very very quiet and is a guy that I really like Brandon uh the trail bers have traded for Washington Wizards uh wing Denny AIA what’s your your first thoughts on uh the entirety of this the day and kind of what what your first like what reaction was because when I talked to you on the phone you were out of breath well I I went on a Four Mile Run and literally the draft day yeah dude I had too much stress I was running on no sleep I needed to burn some some energy off and so literally as I wrapped like I’m not kidding you called I just finished my run pulled my phone out and I had a couple texts from Friends saw you call and I went oh man this is bad timing and instantly had to run up cool down shower get it going um is it let me before I give my thoughts on the trade which I’ve already tweeted so we’ll get into this but my my co-host has put on My Radio Show Twitter account and this is so part I think part for the course for a lot of the city did you know who Denny Oda was three hours ago yes or no and I think that’s where we can kind of start like you and I were talking right before we fired it up look I I’ve heard both sides I’ve heard this is a slam dunk trade I’ve heard like oh massive overpay your hack if you like this okay here’s here’s my original thinking I’m trying to like get my brain going right before we start the Pod so they have two firsts in this year’s draft and Lottery we presume they were going to use Danny one of those picks on a wing right a player of some size right that that was our presumption okay they got a 9 guy yeah he’s 23 he’s younger technically than Dalton connect I still like dton connect a lot but he’s younger okay so you still have your seventh pick uh your 2029 there’s three of them that Portland has this is the second most favorable one in that year so it’s ours it’s Boston it’s Milwaukee the second most favorable one is the one going to Washington Danny what year is it 2024 okay I don’t know if the world will exist in 2029 I don’t care about that pick right now and they have a buttload of second round picks you can certainly make an argument for Brogden the player whatever you think of it I it is what it is I don’t think that they weigh overpaid you can make an argument they paid a little bit over but that’s okay he’s 23 he averaged almost 15 points seven rebounds his shot efficiency was fine he’s the size you need and I know you’re going to get into the contract the contract’s pretty damn Team friendly so we were looking for them to get a wing they may still get another one with their seventh pick they got one an hour before the draft okay let’s kind of go through this step by step they trade Danny AIA for Malcolm Brogden the 2024 number 14 overall pick 2029 first round pick that is a lesser than your most optimized pick in that draft so if Milwaukee is bad in 29 that will still be Portland’s yes whatever the best pick is in that draft they have it yep that’s that’s what happens here okay and two seconds H how I’m trying to figure out how is a pick that at best was probably going to be used for Kon George Zack Ed jacobe Walter I whatever like you’re like okay or or you could trade it for a guy on not I’m not going to say probably the best non rookie scale contract in the entire league so just on that point alone yeah can you explain why you think that so he’s got a he just signed a fouryear $55 million deal which you’re like oh it sounds like a decent amount of money but it’s on the lower end for sure his contract this year will be $15.6 million in 2728 it will be 11.8 million it is a descending value contract the uh cap up his contract down his talent up contract down is everybody picking up what we’re putting down here okay he just had a season where he put up I’m going double check it real quick 15 seven and four so he can score he can rebound hey hey hey guys a wing who can rebound remember that you guys are very mad about that but he doesn’t rebound this one rebounds okay and he creates and he shot 50 3774 oh and he’s 69 oh and he’s 23 years old so if I was going to tell you because most of you didn’t know who Denny abdia was which is okay by the way the wizard sucked but if I told you hey man there’s a 23y old Wing out there who’s 157 and4 who shot 503775 who has one of the best contracts in the entire league what do you think that would cost think about it for a second do you think it was like uh guy a veteran on an expiring deal and then two throwaway firsts and I don’t care about the seconds they have a pile of them yeah what they get for gp2 like four of them five five they got five from one player two of them probably W convey but like again like every’s like well you need to maximize value I get all of that they probably got a player in Danny AIA better than any player in this draft assume cly better than every wing I assume that’s what they think yes and he like where you have questions up and down about you know what does this player do what does this player somebody citing Advanced stats from Denny ABIA in the chat for a guy who played on the Wizards I this is the kind of thing that makes my brain hurt um you know how I know I love this deal because people that are mad about this deal are Blazers fans who see draft picks and my phone with everyone who works in the league going this is an absolutely incredible deal how did they pull off Danny abdia so I I was thinking about this earlier and I you know obviously this trade surprised the hell out of me I don’t know where it rang for you but like it it pops up and it happens right so it’s like instantly we have to think about how it makes us feel and I did see the pics in Brogden I was like oh and I was thinking about it and I’m like I go back to this morning and I’m I’m certainly not trying to suggest that this is Apples to Apples here right I there’s a little apple orange stuff here but like would anybody have guessed that the Knicks would have had to pay six picks five five first round first four unprotected if for four unprotected and and and the the protected and the Milwaukee first and then a second for male Bridges who I think is a very good player certainly better than Denny but never made an All-Star team and now they’re paying 212 to OG I just you know what I think is happening here and I’m not I I’m not Mr like every deal the Blazers make is incredible I’m not I’m not one of those guys I’m trying to be honest here no this is but this is a this is a good deal like legit I don’t know if we understand trade value in the league right now I think it’s a really hard thing to comprehend second apron stuff’s going to change a lot of this you’re not going to have as many super teams and we’re just seeing we’re seeing picks fly off the handle for players all over and I think it’s kind of warping it like any other Year Danny I would have told you that’s what Bridges was going to go for you’d have been like no way I feel like today it was met with mostly like hell yeah now it seems like a good fit for New York and I think that’s why people say it but does that make him a title favorite no but it it seems like a really good play for a team made of good chemistry hard workers and guys that have you know familiarity with each other the thinking is pretty simple it’s a 69 player they needed a player mul tool 6 foot n player 23 years old who’s under contract for four more years what more do you want like that’s that’s the thing about this oh and by the way remember that the whole like well the Blazers financially have to worry about what they’re doing and and people kept throwing that one move one single move the Blazers cleared $16 million they’re under the tax yeah I I just I think this is the part of the rebuild that’s going to be fascinating aside from who they pick in about 30 minutes it’s just moves like this where it might be a player that we’re not all as and I’m certainly not trying to act like I watched all his games last year I watch a lot of Wizards basketball but following the league and knowing that he was out there I mean I didn’t know that they were going to trade for him but he’s a good player and they’re they’re thinking he can get better he can grow and he can help Scootin and Shan uh I want to shout out Hussein April 12th couple months ago he DMS me and says hey Danny what do you think about Danny Abdi as a trade cand for the Blazers this summer The Warriors pick Rob Williams an extra would really fit in this team and also a really nice extension I replied with really like AIA I don’t know if they’re at that stage yet of going for that of going for because like I’d heard aia’s name is like a name that had circulated around but I was like I don’t I don’t know if organizationally they’re there yet for the Blazer side and I don’t know if the Wizards are like Abdi is really the only guy outside of kabali that I had heard was like no they really like him like kiss bir’s a good player and I think I thought he was more getable than avdia um but I just wanted to shout out Hussein because he hit me up he says looks like I wished it into existence so shout out shout out Hussein yeah I I think um I just I’m kind of curious now like this is the team building part that we get to react to in real time of like we know they’re going to pick seventh tonight yep and it seems like if Donovan’s there they’re gonna they’re going to draft kingan I mean that’s what all the Intel suggest that he’s high up on that board well they’ll okay do you want say don’t say no say you want to get into it now well if you want to keep talking about this this deal we certainly can I mean very interesting I’m I’m okay either way that’s that that’s where I’m at with this because uh we we can kind of go through this a little bit more if we want to um I I think for right now it’s we’ve kind of covered everything of the the initial stuff like what they do now I think possibly changes um the the opportunities that are on the board here now probably change right if you got your wing does that mean that Cody Williams is probably off the board maybe does that mean toon St is off the board maybe does that mean maybe dton connects off the board maybe so much depends on what happens here in the next 20 minutes I’d be surprised if D was on the board still with this I would too just because it’s been so loud around multiple teams talking about moving up for him more specifically Memphis moving up for him if Memphis doesn’t move up for him then perhaps he’s there but I’ve heard that even Detroit could consider going e screw it we’ll take him because you have a new guy in charge like he’s the only one they’re actually tied to in Detroit right now is Kade that’s it yeah I mean well hell even last year uh heading into the heading into the season the Chicago Bulls had the opportunity to trade uh Zack LaVine for Jaden Ivy and a first so the old regime was already like H you know we we we’re willing to move Ivy we’ve already whiffed you know so like you have an understanding of of what that looks like and for if for kingan now though right Detroit could just say we’ll move Jaylen Duren and we want to go with kingan because he that’s more like who we like okay then then the Blazers will adjust but it’s getting harder and harder for me to see kingan being there at seven as it stands right now from what I understand and through talks back and forth all day ret SAR are about as set as you could be going into the draft that sounds like it’s done okay that’s the other thing is AIA leaving Washington and them getting Brogden now whether or not they hold on to Brogden Washington feels like they might flip him though and try to get something they could or they could go hey you know it would be really good having a competent point guard and not entrusting our new number two overall pick to Jordan pool just you know yeah you know what I mean like yeah balock kabali Alex s let’s give Malcolm broen the ball and like let let’s have like some level of competence to run our offense yeah like I could see that I could see that incredibly easy um but looking at this draft you you understand kind of where one and two are three is that spark Point we’ve been talking about this for weeks about how this could possibly shake up is Houston gonna stay is Houston gonna make the pick is somebody gonna move up by the way I would just throw out there the the couple names you rattled off some of them I would understand if they’re not on I still think tjn should be on that list of like what is he he’s 610 like that’s still a player of interest for me I I don’t know if oh yeah no for sure for sure I’m I’m there with you like look if you can run like if if your you know your your wings going forward are Denny avdia and ton salon and you’re 69ine 610 at you’re 34 yeah I’m like a prry dog popping out of the hole baby you know I’m I’m happy I’m chirping that’s exactly what I want to see the other part of this too for me and I I think why I I I I like it is um the one thing that was important and we’ve talked about this on the pot a couple times was for me when I bring up like Dalton connect for example right it it wasn’t just that like oh dton connect and he’s the best player it was like I just loved that dton connect could probably come into the league get some buckets be a dog and help scootout when he when he drives and and he kicks you have that yeah you’ve got now support and I hope Shaden stays healthy next year but like Denny is somebody that like when he’s out there he should be able to help a guy like scoot not I just I like that I like trying to support the young rookie point guard going into year two that kind of figured some stuff out at the end of his rookie year and hopefully carries that in next year that was an underrated part of this trade to me too was I just think he’s a good support player like a really good player with a little more upside than what he had last year and he’s somebody that’s going to help your point guard out a lot yeah no for sure like the thing that I’ve I’ve uh begrudged uh been frustrated about with the Portland Trailblazers beyond the um lack of shooting is you you’ve heard me talk about this mostly offline is the playmaking right the secondary playmaking the the guy can attack a guy that has like natural playmaking feel avdia has that Y and that’s one of the things I really honestly that’s the reason I really like him is that he has the ability to yes be a plus Defender at at plus length and you know he can knock down threes and he can slither to the rim and finish and like but for me the thing that matters the most is like oh he’s a plus secondary creator playm you’ve heard me say this a million times so forgive me playmaking with size is the rarest commodity in the league so for them to that’s why when I say like what the Blazers paid for this I’m like sure a pick that they probably didn’t care that much about a pick that’s five years out expiring veteran Malcolm Brogden you took those things and you turned them into something that you really want that’s that’s great for everybody wondering Dallas is here because my wife is not here right now and so she wanted to jump on my lap and make a TV appearance you know it’s a three person pod now that’s okay it’s been a while but no I I I think you know that’s that that’s the aspect of it too for me is just you’ve got a playmaker with 69ine size and and you know what it’s not that he’s coming to some great situation from a win loss perspective but sometimes A team’s like hey thanks see you later you know it’s a new opportunity for him to come here I’m sure Joe and Company have already communicated with him like we’re going to give you a ton you’re going to get a ton of looks here this is a big opportunity for you he just got paid it’s a great contract as you mentioned at the start of the Pod uh I just I I think we’re seeing we’re seeing the stuff Danny and the stuff is like this it’s this wide and it’s like man it’s a lot of stuff in there but like if you just break the stuff down like Malcolm you mentioned expiring uh this year they their 14th pick it was whatever it was a flip of the coin if that was going to hit anyway for most of us the future pick that is in five years that I don’t care about right now you have two more five picks five years out I don’t care about particularly the lesser of the the of those picks you know what I mean yeah I just I don’t have time to care about 2029 right now it’s 2024 brother we’re trying to get through 2024 and two seconds she got five for just gp2 so you only got rid of two of those five I I just you know I think it was worth it taking a trade and getting a player a position uh of need so that’s that’s about as much as I think we have uh on Denny in general because I don’t know what else to add other than I’ll be curious to see what they do with Mal your your Malcolm point is valid they can very easily flip him too like they I’m curious if Malcolm wants to be flipped like hey I the Los last I will say right now unless he’s cool being in DC yeah which that that could be a real thing chocolate City I’m just saying um but I would strongly state that M would probably like to be flipped and the other side of that for all of this is the Wizards could just sit there and wait this out and see who goes where and then find the veteran team and goes would you like Malcolm brogon yeah like I I everything about this I I I really like this deal and it’s it’s it’s really funny it It’s it’s look it’s very funny seeing Blazers fans like this is an overpay and I’ve got I have literally everyone on my phone texting me dude this is an incredible trade who works in the league like I don’t know how they pulled this off I don’t think people in Portland truly understand how like where the value scaling of Denny is actually in the league um it’s a lot I think theist is longer from our side Danny and it’s like oh my God look at all we gave up whereas it’s like hey one player there it is that’s fair four things oh my God yeah the the the quantity as opposed to the Quality right right and and and look if he doesn’t hit call it out in real time but if he just play the thing is like I don’t think he’s not gonna hit he’s already hit he’s already a good player that’s kind of what I think too I’m just saying like and if he gets better it’s gonna make that trade I think feel a little better for people so yeah um you know you know how you know this this trade is good uh the Blazers are calling it overpay and the entire Wiz wizard sub threat is having a meltdown oh are they on on they they didn’t get enough for Denny look if you had asked me 12 hours ago basketball and a nutshell right there what it would cost to get Denny I would have talked about much more valuable assets than what they gave up like more draft capital I would have started probably with seven and probably would have included ant wow like that would have been my perception around like what it would take to get abdia from the Wizards yes okay so like that’s that’s what I mean when I’m like this is a from a value scaling in my brain yeah that that to me is like it sounds really good so uh but back to the draft uh as it sits right now rear one two the Rockets can go different paths if they if they make a move a bigger move not necessarily Kevin Durant but it’s a bigger move um Jimmy Butler Paul George whatever it may be and they give this pick up here that’s one path you know that that’ll go to whatever team that they they go and then it you can go 18 different ways with that pick the one that everybody has talked about is is if they’re making a move is with Memphis and Memphis is going if they move up they are taking Donovan Clingan that is that is the they don’t they don’t really have a center I mean they need they have a Steven Adam sized hole in their roster right now yes they do yes they do so um that’s the one there is a world where at five Detroit does trade back and I heard this starting yesterday afternoon I said it on the radio today that Rob Dillingham has started gaining a ton of traction and could end up in the first half of the draft which Buck get her and his name has been linked to Detroit but so if Detroit moves back that could also be a place where the the uh Grizzlies move up to or perhaps the Thunder they’ve also been like hey you know we’d like Clingan even though he doesn’t go down the path of the five out big sure so I don’t really I’m kind of curious too of Memphis like Memphis makes sense for kinging I’m not really sure what was it that I heard I think it was maybe smart earlier and I’m like Marcus Smart isn’t making Houston better who was his coach no no I I know I get that part of it I’m just like but that’s the reason behind it is like that’s a guy that e may can go to war with yeah that’s an interesting decision for them because like I I feels like if they’re trading out they’re trying to take that step right and I just I’m not really convinced Marcus Smart at this point of his career is going to put them over some kind of hump in the Western Conference which is already uh really tough Oklahoma City is a sneaky good point by you because of all the draft picks that they have they could just throw right at Houston who can maybe swing that into something wouldn’t even turn a dent no here’s a few firsts thank you we still have 85 of these and then Houston takes their draft Capital they flip it for something maybe a little bit bigger down the road um I I’m fascinated to see who stays and who moves like who is I had a mutual friend of ours I was texting with and I we were talking about like who who do you like who do I like and this was you know hours ago so I’m like I’d like him to take connect he’s a good shooter stability good culture guy seems like and I go who do you like and he goes man I like a lot of things and he goes I really would love San Antonio to take flinging I want some jumbo Towers out there and I’m like you know what may not be the most position need but I kind of like the idea let’s get real weird in this draft that’s just too much oh no he knows it was know but I mean like no nobody nobody nobody wants to see that that’s that’s too much that’s yeah there’s nowhere to go at that point in time like no I know it’s ridiculous mean do do you call it the Allied Powers at that point in time like good Lord um yeah no it’s that’s the other one we kind of skipped over four here yeah they’re interesting Spurs stff Castle yeah seems like that’s that look seems to be trending that way yeah everyone’s like yeah no the bring the draft it just started yeah this I’ve got up on the other monitor right now the uh the Spurs getting Castle feels kind of like them getting this isn’t the same thing but it kind of feels like them getting guard Kawai where you’re like well if he hits he could be really good and that’s kind of like I’ve talked to a few execs in the league who are like I really don’t want to see him end up there because of their track record with those kind of guys um and then just how easy Wy makes playing off of him yeah so uh I’ll be curious to see what they go do you go guard there it’s an obvious kind of area for him but I mean Castle’s I’ve talked to numerous people who have Castle number one on their board overall so you know who’s a big castle guy I found out today who the homie Mike Richmond no no no that that that’s tracks huge castle guy uh yeah no Rich Mike likes like weird guards yeah like that’s that’s that’s definitely his Jam like he he was feeling what Bon was putting down now can I ask you this so they get they make the trade they’re at seven they’re on the clock maybe they go hey let’s just be Boston let’s just get as many wings remember remember when Joe got introduced in 21 I went back and looked at those quotes and we talked about it on the pot of just like wangs wangs wangs right like does Joe just go you know Boston lot of size yeah let’s go buis I mean it’s I was talking to Dusty on the air today and the thing I said is look if whatever you want to find in the league in opinion you can find it I’ve had people tell me like yeah I can see buis buis is the guy in Portland I’ve had a bunch of people tell me that connect is the is a guy today I’ve had a bunch of people tell me that Cody is the guy today I’ve had a bunch of people tell me that Clingan is the guy today I’ve had a bunch of people tell me that you know that the Blazers were looking at EDI and Kishon George at 14 and it’s like well 14’s gone so okay let’s let’s see what happens how would you react if it’s Ed at s they’ve got their wing and now they just want their big they don’t care what you would see me go from here to here very quickly and you’d see me down here go from huh to H oh yeah give me some Edy I that would be like six to midnight give me some Ed yeah mine would be midnight to six yeah I know yours would be the opposite we be in a weird strip club together D I’m out I gotta get out of here you know whatever would come out and I’d look at you and you’d be like H I’m like not my thing going to stage four go get some steak bites uh Adam Silver is getting the draft underway with I’ve got him on mute purposfully he’s doing his little intro right now he’s about to introduce the first pick on the clock so this is going to be roughly about what we said around like 510 is is when this thing’s probably going to kick off well I mean like I said it’s the it’s the NBA it’s no I I know I know no they’re doing a nice little uh thing to to to Jerry West and Bill Walton right now oh sure it’s it’s all great I uh I have it I have it turned down and somebody’s asking uh at at what time is who AA is that you know to be fair to that technically sahay isn’t a boa now you know what I mean like she’s of the boa age so just we don’t King Shame here no we do not we do not um but so we’ve gotten kind of through picks one through five that doesn’t cover how everything can and might will could go but I think that’s the general consensus of of where we’re at with stuff I I kind of I’m I kind of I would like to see them go what you said as far as like wings wings wings wings wings just keep going on size even with them getting AIA I I would like to see them take Williams or Salon if Cody if Cody and tan are there like I would like to see them come out with one yeah like again we’ve talked about the connect back and forth a million times I don’t have anything against doton I think he’s going to be a good player I think the fit is kind of I agree now that we have Denny I would agree with that yes I think it’s even more so now yeah I it’s uh the way I described it today was not square peg round hole but octagon Peg round hole it fits but it’s not perfect yeah Denny AIA it’s a good fit I mean New Boston won how like obviously KP is a little bigger than a normal Wing but like they won with switchability and size and we do this almost yearly right it’s like everybody needs to find their yic and then now it’s like everybody needs to find Wings but like we’ve known wings are of value in this league for a while what did New York do today what’s the rarer thing like what’s what’s can you find Wings yes out there gener they be wrong they’re hard to find like I don’t want to make it sound like they’re easy to find but what’s what’s this is what I talk about with scarcity what’s harder to to to get a generational seven-footer or or really good Wings obviously the seven-footer is more rare particularly with the skill level like I could be wrong if they could go get a seven-footer like a wmi yeah go get me the freak that no one can deal with of course one ball away dude we were one ball away unbelievable and honestly think about think about pairing Denny AIA with wmy think about Denny with Dame and wmy like that’s now you’re talking about like title contending type teams and we are officially on the clock now um I don’t this is gonna be ree right I mean yes I don’t think they take any time here but they’re proba you think they just they’ll probably get a couple minutes they’ll got a couple minutes because they have to make sure hey don’t turn those in too fast uh we got to run commercials yeah it’s probably the one thing I hate about the leagues with their drafts of the drafts that we really watch in the NFL and NBA is like when you know it’s the number one pick like Caleb Williams was the most obvious pick for two years wait let’s see what’s gonna happen here and it’s like it’s 10 minutes on the clock starts now and it’s like dude I mean it was done months ago what are we doing here while we’re waiting do you think that Portland stays at seven um yes because you still in a way you still kind of in a way get to dictate some of your own terms I know that SAR probably number one on their big board right sure but you assume SAR re sh gone Castle goes to San Antonio Houston might go Reed if they stay you might get some of what we’re talking about just falling into your lap it really might just fall into your lap and at that point you get to choose the best of whatever is there for you so I’m not going to put it past Joe to move ended up trading an hour for the draft today but yeah stay at seven see what happen shout out getting the work done early for those for those wondering uh we cannot ask Joe and staff about Denny tonight at the press conference he will come out before the cameras come on and say uh by the way I cannot and will not according to league rules address any possible reports about players that may or may not have been acquired today let’s get under which is so so very dumb like we all know this is happening what’s going to get held up in this trade I know once in a while it happens but come on man uh the the Hawks fans by the way shout out them filling up that arena for this they are they are the official pick is in here we go and it’ll be wow they I’m curious how far ahead you are or you’re ahead of me I just saw the crowd yeah pretty good crowd for Atlanta I might need to refresh here that’s all right I won’t I won’t say anything I’ll just wait go ahead we’re going to break it to everybody else too so if you’ve got it say it that’s what we’re waiting for at this point I loved Alex sar’s Answers by the way when they were like hey would you would you love to go number one in the least shocking surprise it is Reet yeah did somebody tweet that in yeah for so much of his tenure but we usually see Zachary Reet number one overall pick it’s done it’s over with the suspense is over where you out on him I’m fascinated by him I like him uh if you remember my original uh uh top what I do top 15 top 15 Big Board like B before long before the lot I think it was late January early February uh I had him third or fourth sec I don’t know it might have been second or third I had s SAR one and then I had Reay Williams Salon h I can’t remember who I had fifth might have had topic fifth then before he got hurt twice sure so I that was that was where where I was with all of that so um but yeah no I I I’ve had re Shay on my big board the very top top three for six months six months seven months whatever that is I love that the pick is in and we’re still listening to Malika Malika Andrews is like Adam just get to the podium buddy what are we doing I mean we we’ve got to sit here and Dink around with it also shout out all the Hawks fans they’re all wearing the Berets yes I love that you know yeah uh the comments are like yeah the pick us in it’s displayed on the screen for the last three minutes but yeah they’re a they’re a weird team by the way the Hawks yeah well no they because they make zero sense that’s what I’m saying like I just if I’m a Hawks fan I don’t what do we what are we when are we trading what are we doing who is it around like just very weird very weird vibe the Hawks here we go it’s got to be a great moment for a young guy it’s got to be such a that’s a just a Unreal moment you know what I mean like all your dreams kind of coming together and like oh get emotional cry do all there he is have some fun with it I like it first got guy just chugging beers every time he’s shown on camera I think my audio comes through so I have to keep my audio down oh okay I got mine just barely I can hear it but I don’t think it’s coming through my mic but when I when I pull your sound I can’t pull directly from Zoom I have to pull from the desktop and I think the audio here comes out at the same time so oh gotcha okay um well there you go it’s official Zachary ret number one overall pick headed to the Atlanta Hawks now what the hell do they do do they Trey right if it’s me yes I St him in a cannon and shoot him into the Sun and then whatever comes back that’s you take uh I I think it’s addition by subtraction as talented as he is there’s far too many people in the NBA that talk about him in a manner that just other players aren’t talked about that just teammates do not enjoy playing with him it’s because he had the he had the New York moment and honestly it was before that well he came out of Oklahoma pretty hyped and fun right don’t me wrong the the talent is there and he’s fun like he’s exciting he throws lobs but the the biggest complaint that everybody says is like he oh that’s cool re Shay going over to salon and dapping him up yeah um big moment for bua eni let me tell you bua eni famously Nicholas batum’s agent Victor we yama’s agent and basically every player from France agent Ryan repair um he’s doing real well these last couple of years he’s cleaning house man French are just getting drafted left and right he’s French Rich Paul right now with the way these guys are coming to the league it is [Music] um the Chad is asking where the hell is the timer on the draft Yeah well that’s on purpose it’s it’s like they’re treating it like Vegas there’s no clocks on purpose then you can’t hold it against them uh because they want to make sure they get all of their commercials and and talks of the top end um I would trade Trey expeditiously see the report that deante is gonna have more value you sure like and they’re not wrong because um maybe not on the whole better but he makes more sense for more teams because he’s cheaper and here’s the thing do joh is a little CR little crazy like screw loose but that also allows like people when he is being a pain in the ass like ah Deon is just crazy you know what I mean like you just deante being deante yeah where when when it’s a trade it’s like oh he’s just being in a dhole yeah right and it’s like could you not right you know it it it’s probably not fair it’s not fair like it’s but that’s that’s the world we live in um I I would basically jettison everything not named aong wo and uh Jaylen Johnson yeah uh I would do whatever I could to get my picks back from the Spurs if necessary yeah um but uh see but to your point earlier like if Trey I Trey and wimy make a ton of sense but like if that’s the reputation does pop want to get a headache in wimy second season I not as convinced about that Alex s by the way Shams is just well he he’s been getting his ass handed to him by Adrien for the last 12 hours so that’s not surprising you know the worst thing for Shams was he kind of had the reic thing right oh no he didn’t kind of he did he had it Nails I I know but like he also didn’t technically break when JJ got hired it was Wo well that was on purpose I know it was but it’s like damn dude he just bullied you he just took all of your lunch money um obiously Sor going number two we haven’t talked about really the bridges trade in general but uh the I find it funny that everybody’s like well the bridges trade is going to set the the the course for how things are going to go going forward and it’s like no it’s not everybody knows that the bridges trade was a very specific set of circumstances the Knicks had exactly what the Nets wanted and the Nets had exactly what the Knicks wanted and it was a deal where Bridges was like I’m GNA be a free agent in a year I’m gonna take my value and I’m gonna tell him I’m not gonna sign anywhere but New York to go play with my friends be Nick yes so the leverage was played by everyone and the Nick net said okay we’re not doing this though unless we get our picks back from the Rockets the Rockets said all right bet instead of leveraging you we’ll leverage our in-conference rival the Suns that actually kind of works out for us better he uh somebody had a really funny tweet on that and they were like next CBA the owners are going to ban players from being friends ban friendship yes like I mean that’s about as good as you can do with trying to get rid of this stuff I mean it’s it’s the villain NOA Knicks man I I just I can’t believe that that team and they might sign Kyle Lowry as a backup for a vet Min it’s just like look I I I I’ve never seen anything like this not this many guys from college playing together like Kentucky no like the Kentucky guys have like one or two sometimes three like uh Harrow and Bam right like oh we went to Kentucky together like you didn’t win a National Title together you know what I mean like that’s crazy to get four of those guys was it the 2016 title team four of those guys were on at like it shows you number one how successful they were together wasn’t a fluke like and how successful they’ve been in the NBA I I I love the fit and honestly you and I have talked about this offline I love what the Nets did they they they made the best move possible screw it we’re gonna we’re gon to tank like we’re going to be bad on levels that you should not ever aspired to for two years and hopefully we’ll figure it out they’re gonna Ace the tank or they’re goingon to Capture the Flag like that’s clearly the goal for them yeah um don’t don’t sleep on two more names Dylan Harper VJ edcom okay I think we’re opening the like I was talking about VJ earlier with somebody vj’s is my sleeper in this draft he’s the sleeper like guy that breaks out I had somebody tell me I think he’s gonna be Anthony Edwards 2.0 and I was like oo I like that that’s a spicy little addition to that draft class I’m telling right now VJ edcom has the kind of athleticism in bounce that makes you go oh and he play he plays like he had a dunk in practice you know when you’re a little bit smaller and you just kind of like keep going up you know like Shan and you just kind of keep going up but you also like power through people that’s VJ but he also talks a whole heap of trash while doing it uh somebody sent me a clip the other day of him at the Bahamas national team practice of him just talking an endless amount of [ __ ] and I was like good good yes that’s what I like to see that’s the stuff inject that into my veins I’m like oh he yammed on somebody and then he let him know about it I’m like oh you’re not even a freshman in college yet yeah yeah I like you I like where this is going um but by the way I got I got another text from one of my friends like what are the let’s see what are the what are the Blazers doing and I said uh they got a 23-year-old 69 and scores 15 a game has good shooting splits and A Team friendly contract not a fan he goes never heard of him I said well you didn’t watch the Wizards last year did you I think he just got a lot of like didn’t watch a second of wizards passet and I don’t blame people I’m not telling you totally F yeah totally fine no um in fact while we’re doing this um I’m gonna pull up his uh cleaning the glass profile just so I can get into it and actually since I have all of his stuff I’m G to actually pull up his Synergy profile as well and and second Spectrum there we go oh why have all these tools if you don’t use them you know what I mean oh yeah the the fun part about it of course is uh trying to sign into to all of them all right Denny AB trying to see who if anybody’s ruined the next pick yet oh no perfect nobody yet um let’s go Denny abdia play types let’s see where he ranked in the spot up last year 80th percentile and that was his number one thing that he did so a guy that plays off ball in the transition 54th percentile in isolation 53 53rd percentile like yeah there’s stuff here I like all up and down the board well look this isn’t to say that like he’s without flaw no this isn’t a guy he’s not gonna take in like break down a team with the ball in his hands no but like what I would say to some of that is if that’s not as good number as you want also let’s remind ourselves who he played for that team was just I saw them play in person they were God awful to watch yes uh let’s see last year abdia uh for forwards was in the 89th percentile for assist uh percentage 17.3 the push back is he was at 14.7% with eth percentile in turnover percentage so needs to tighten that up a little bit yeah uh let’s go take a look at shooting uh shooting accuracy effective field goal percentage 69th percentile nice uh 77th percentile at The Rim 95th percentile on Corner threes oh Houston’s keeping the [Music] pick and it’s gonna be Reed Shepard interesting now I’m fascinated with that now does cling and fall this is where it starts to get weird man you know if kinging falls after getting ABIA fine totally fine I I I if that’s the player that they have that’s the best available player on their board go with God go with God uh you feel about that fit though I think you you take the best player available it’s okay if if if you think that’s it okay um somebody said I can speak Clingan Clingan I can speak lingan it’s great um the other thing that I like about abdia is he was in the 86 percentile in Rim shooting frequency so that’s Rim pressure yeah okay back in the rim uh he was in the 17th percentile in threo attempt uh rate so I I ideally I’d like to see that come up yeah especially he what did you say he was 80 percentile in spot up shooting yes yeah but that was his number one profile trait too so he’s a good finisher at The Rim uh because we talked about his accuracy at The Rim finished 70% of his shots and that’s not an abnormality in his shooting he’s shot 66 63 67 70 yeah at so he’s a 66 to 70% this is SC 68% finisher at The Rim which great I love plus Rim finishers and guys that take threes okay yep y cool cool cool cool cool co co co cool um he has been a historically a 32% three-point shooter with last year being the variable being 38% how much of it is real if he’s a 36 and a half plus percent plus shooter all good yep I’m in I’m in um I I don’t know why ESPN is figing making these picks [Music] um you don’t know why what ESPN’s doing what like holding on to like the whole like oh the P like sh Shams is spoiling it just I know keep it moving it’s kind of a bummer for them though man they pay a lot of money for this stuff like I don’t know it’s just it’s to me personally and I’m somebody I’m sitting on Twitter so I’m seeing these pics get ruined and you can certainly say well they get off I just come on man you know yes and no but like we don’t need to do all of this like it it doesn’t need everybody knows what what the deal is here everybody has spent the last six months preparing for this yeah but it’s a show I mean it’s entertainment I guess they they it’s it’s I mean really think about it like summer league is going to be here right but like if you ask the NBA yeah this is their last like big production the summer league is just it’s just money to them they just want people to go to Vegas and watch these games and hang out and consume and be hoop nuts but this is their last like big production plus you know also let’s be fair to the the kid the guy being drafted man this has always been we always make fun of the suits look back at the photos we talk about who missed on the draft who hit on the draft it’s a big day for these young guys I’m just being kinly I guess well you are a we all know you’re a kudin come on I I am a kudin I just I just want to give me give me give me my stuff give me give me give me my stuff that’s that’s where I’m at with this um do you like do you like the Reed sheeper fit in Houston it’s to me it was one I’m weird I’m weird on it I don’t really get it to be honest with you um how’s it work with Van vet I mean his he’s his Looper yeah I mean I don’t know they’re getting van vet at you know Payless Shoe rate yeah I I don’t know if I’m as sold on it goes from making 40 million to 9 million what what makes me like it though I mean I’m still not sure I’m like all in on it but like what makes me like it is he’s white I’m yeah no uh I assume eay is pretty sold on the kid despite them trying to trade it I have had some bad moments like where I’m like oh you know who I really like I really like Dalton connect you know who else I really like I like Zack Edy well he’s he’s Asian at least shout out my Asian brother can and he’s he’s a lighter white he’s a Asian Canadian yeah CH Chinese and Canadian Chinese and Canadian be specific that’s a that’s a weird combo yeah you don’t they don’t see that one every day they don’t don’t see many seven foot five Chinese Canadians I’m just concerned about Reed’s size Oh you mean the fact that while he’s being interviewed right now between three different people mon MC mcnut is the biggest person yeah the only person shorter than him is his mother bro Monica mcnutt’s arms are easily bigger than his I mean Monica’s jacked no I know I’m giving her a compliment but like that’s supposed to be an NBA c yeah that looks like my little brother forced to go to church he he needs to spend two years in an NBA weight room like uh minimum yes that or go on the Balco braa plan dude he he’s going to get hunted day one as soon as he’s on I would love to see him go full Don Landry all of the gear just all of it just come back with like 40in biceps how how did you get those do you remember when he was like no it’s all Natty you remember that my goodness that’s that David Boston weight plan yeah it’s like you got to be kidding me uh we are going chalk so far Steph Castle to the Spurs the thing that all yeah well I mean it’s in yeah damn it the thing that um executive R around the league didn’t want to see if Steph Castle finds his jumper I don’t want to go full Drake it’s scary hours but you might have one of the better defenders in the entire draft probably the one with the best athletic profile unless you think Ryan Dunn has that although he’s as good athlete as he is he doesn’t necessarily have like the plus length everywhere um he’s got incredibly high IQ he’s already shown that he’s willing to sacrifice to win like he he’s a Spurs player you know what I mean like he’s already gone like being a Danny Hurley Yukon cult member has like brainwashed him and made him ready to be a Greg papovich Spurs cult member yeah I I don’t think you could probably find which which one is is more guys I I don’t mean like a sound like a jerk somebody asking for us to stop spoiling that’s not going to happen because we’re going to dress as we as they come through that’s it’s yeah I mean there’s a thousand there’s a thousand people in the chat so it’s it’s just gonna happen sorry like that we we can’t sit here and wait if you want to like I’m not tell you love that you’re watching with us yeah but like that’s I’m not trying to be a jerk it’s just it’s an impossibility to do right now okay here let’s do this like I I’m I’m I’m kind of with that person but also to your point like it’s it’s almost an impossibility at this point I’ve got it on let’s just do this just for our pick let’s just not ruin it just for the Blazers let’s just do one traditional pick is that possible no you’re a kudin a-hole it’s not me I’m just there’s a thousand people in here that’s what’s going to happen are they just throwing it in the chat in real time like castle castle castle castle yes it’s just flooding flooding the chat that’s like it’s like it is what it is oh look at you you got the camera tracking going on dude let me tell you this put your you put your hands up me hour to get this camera to work I was screwing things up left and right which is hilarious because this thing plugs in and just works Danny we don’t need to expose Secrets here nobody needs to know that um did you did you other than the NCA tournament did you watch um much of Yukon at all oh yeah I mean they were one of the few teams that I probably watched the most of this year just because I’m like I’m I’m sold on narrative guy not a big college hoops guy I think the product kind of sucks but you’re going for a repeat we haven’t seen it in 17 years and you’re bringing back some experience even though that we had a rotation of of new starters Castle was definitely a guy that you read about early I mean he might be point guard Josh Hart and that’s to me like a really good player that’s terrifying think of could you think of a better player to pair with wemi no no like no hi I need a point guard that doesn’t really dominate the ball that does everything else oh and by the way there’s a chance he may learn to shoot the ball and you’re like crazy huh yeah that sounds like a terrifying Mach matchup let’s throw the kicker in there too like let’s not act like we like Castle right we’re we’re in on Castle 100% yeah no I I really like him and I but I think you need a very specific fit for him and the Spurs are that exact fit for him it’s the wimy thing though too like I I’m challenging you here a little bit I don’t know if they could have made a pick that you’d go I don’t like it they have Wy he’s he’s going to he’s the all-encompassing makes up for anything you may be lacking in and so yeah I I like the pick I like Castle I think he’s going to be a good fit and knowing it’s the Spurs even though they’ve gone a couple years without being Spurs now that they have wmy like he’s probably going to become point guard Josh Hart who shoots 36% from three and we’re g to go damn it damn it I mean the Spurs when I wrote my mock draft I was like I’m I I wrote Steph castle for four and then on the Intel part of it I was like look I’m done trying to pretend what the hell the Spurs or trying to understand what the hell the Spurs do at eight and I’m not even going to guess what Sam pry does at 12 because it’s just rabbit hat mhm like that’s they have it’s it’s not just that they’re smarter than everybody else because I don’t think that’s the case because you start smelling your own farts at that point in time yeah there’s a great amount of luck in getting Victor rinama there’s a great amount of luck in getting SGA and then like you they made their own in that case but him turning into an MVP candidate and then getting Chad you know like the are those those things matter but a lot of what makes those organizations great is that they did fall face first into greatness whether it was the last iteration with KD where they didn’t have to make the choice between KD and Odin KD was in their lap yes they did well taking James Harden I’m not taking that away from at all and getting uh Russell Westbrook and getting sergy Baka they also gave James Harden away for a basket of cookies everybody tends to forget that like Kevin Martin was a nice player he is not a first ballot Hall of Famer that they was like ah we don’t want to sign him we want to keep Serge Baka okay yeah like hindsight cons reconsidered they probably should have traded Russ and kept pardon right okay so they make mistakes too yep the Spurs they’ve been in the A Wasteland for five years but they set this all up and once they got the guys they got they were like oh we can that guy works with this guy that guy works with this guy that guy works with this guy that’s what I think is still they’re trying to do and that’s why they need a Cooper or an ace Bailey or a Dylan Harper or a VJ Edge come like what like whoever or if you believe scooter shayen is gonna be that guy yeah we still don’t know we go to wait for this year that they’re looking for that North Star yeah and they just don’t have it yet yeah so somebody points out well I mean a basket of cookies is a lot of cookies because I’m saying Kevin Martin wasn’t a bad player it was just a probably not what you should be getting for James Harden I was like oops is Detroit going is Detroit going to stay here do do you want to know I I was I was resisting I was resisting checking I was just on it here we go let me see uh nothing yet no nothing yet did we go it sounds like they’re talking to Memphis right now there it is that’s the one [Music] still hasn’t ruined yet still not ruined yet yeah I imagine if this is but James Edwards I think he’s the guy who covers the Pistons for the athletic he has been banging this drum a while whoa Ron Holland at five whoa buddy everyone I talk to said flat out Holland was going to fall Ron Holland at five and W is now in on ruining the pcks he’s he’s had it he’s like enough of this shot I’m bodying him well they I bet I bet you he went to their director and was like can’t have this no yeah he can’t be outdone on Twitter dude that feels like the old piston regime making the pick I thought the new regime was supposed to be different that’s the surprise of the draft oh easily I mean the surprise of the guess who’s falling to seven Clingan well they the Blazers so Cody well Hornets the Hornets are a wild card they might go connect or buis or buis I think kingan’s falling to him so if I you know if I tell you I give you the the stat profile of Denny and say you’re getting this player who did this in the NBA at this age and then I give you klling in I think if you put that up on a Blazer pole question what’s the percentage that says they like the draft are we gon to have people respond but well we lost two seconds we lost to 2029 I don’t I just if they end up getting Doan out of this I I think they’ve gonna feel like they hit a home run Ron Holland I’m I’m stunned I everybody’s got to be stunned I mean everyone this morning was like Ron’s probably going to fall probably going to fall probably gonna fall you know what I I I know there’s been some Intel on him and his personality I am kind of happy for him though man it’s got to suck to be in that green room and you’re like all the Intel’s like yo he’s falling way out of this I am this is a damn this was exactly what slobber knocker so one of kingan buis Williams Saloon will be on the board okay who do you want them to get Joe calls you says Danny who do I go you think Adam’s reading Ron Holland after scoot at three last year going damn it dude maybe I shouldn’t have shut this down these guys are actually getting drafted pretty high I I expected something weird from Detroit that’s crazy nobody had that not a soul and of course now my headset wants to take a crab also what does it say about what does it say about this draft that Memphis ultimately was like you know what actually we don’t want to pay your price we’re going to stay where we’re at unless they’re going to trade with Charlotte that’s the wild card here I I they have to be trading back who Charlotte another team working to move up secure Donovan Kling and sources tell ESPN Portland maybe swap with Charlotte I can’t believe this holy I’m still shocked by by Ron Holland I mean we talked about it what was it going to be we all identified maybe Houston it ended up being Detroit they mean they went way like way into left field hey way into left field because the Intel out there was he was going to be available 9 10 11 12 13 that’s Charlotte’s Charlotte’s looking to move back Memphis is coming in here we’ll see if it happens it’s not official but we got Jake fiser coming in trying to say that Charlotte is actively talking there’s Memphis if Memphis gets there they’re taking him we have a face off oh my God who will Donovan cling and play for the Grizz or the Blazers Grizz Grizzlies vers Blazers oh my God this corner Portland’s not going to move it sound Fisher’s basically making it like Memphis is making this pick I’m nice like refreshing my Twitter feed somebody just said smart uh clingan’s from Connecticut so you know he’s comfortable with snow tires it’s a shot at shot at [Music] da buddy dude are we getting Donovan C it or not I can’t tell stressing I I do not like Holland going to Detroit no well you didn’t like Holland in general no but I mean I that him going to Detroit is you’re T you’re sending him to the team with the worst spacing in the NBA well Connor Kevin oconor said this is great news for him Fred Vinson is an assistant coach he’s shooting coach he’s the best shot doctor on the planet helped overhaul lonzo’s mechanics and turned Ingram into a reliable shooter made his biggest difference with herb Jones so if Ron has everything else that you like and you got a guy that you really think can turn his shot around could end up being a good pick it’s all about fit Albert gim at No Ceilings the Pistons took a swing at five not the swing I would take wish them the best man um Holland was plus 230 to go top 10 an hour ago brother I’m I’m telling you this is out of nowhere are we gonna get the pick or is or is Memphis because W is saying we’re moving up Jake fiser who I know he’s not W he’s saying Memphis I have no idea what’s happening right now this is we’re Flying Blind here man yeah no this is uh this this this is the spice this is what ESPN was hoping for yes yes give me the transactions good good why do you trade to move up one or does Charlotte just not is just like yeah we’ll get our guy seven another second okay I I wonder if this is three seconds to get Denny and Donovan with Malcolm two firsts I wonder if this is them forcing their hand like that trying to Jin up some more interest on the other side now there’s real interest God foring that’s that’s been a real thing I don’t I don’t know what’s happening right now I’m sitting I’m nervous I’m not going to lie I kind of want them to get Donovan kinging oh absolutely crazy unfreaking believable this is just what’s what’s what’s happening I’m sweating this ring light’s making me sweat why why are we going to commercial break and not getting updates stay on the pick and put the freaking commercial on a lower third Danny why do we do an NBA Finals halftime show that’s maybe long no it was a minute and 10 seconds unbelievable yeah um leser what if Portland trades back with Memphis I I don’t know why they would do that there I mean I guess they could but if kingan goes here I mean kingan goes here I don’t know I don’t know how everybody feels about it I’m tell you right now Joe is going to tell you they love what happened today um if it’s Denny and Donovan you know Charlotte’s taking Salon they’re not trading Charlotte’s going swing so Portland’s got Kling the board kinging there it is Donovan kinging Jonathan gavone you bastard he knew he knew it all along un real oh my god dude we got him the surprising thing here is was what Kristen Peak said earlier today is that Charlotte would suddenly came out of nowhere to take a look at Salon that’s absolutely nuts wow I love look that’s are you happy with kinging um you’re not sure well I mean let’s let’s make sure the pick’s there like that’s that’s Lord knows something comes weird like I want to I want to make sure that that gets submitted and goes okay hey guys let’s Source stellia has been clinging will make it to the Blazers at number seven yeah W is saying the Blazers aren’t going to move off him I mean we’ll see what happens they got to announce uh that’s what I’m saying like let’s see what does Memphis go we really want clinging and now the Blazers have the Grizzlies by the short ones and they leverage something out of this that’s what I’m saying let’s see what happens I think they take kingan I think that’s their guy but you want you want a wild stat yeah this is where I wish I was smart and a good Gambler if you had an inkling to go against your own thought here and say you know what there’s going to be a dumb weird team in the top five Ron Holland was 5050 to one to go top five today brother everybody’s like Oh see it’s so clear he’s a top five Talent I’ve seen some people say that in the chat and and on by Twitter I’m like I’m telling you the Intel among teams was that he was going nowhere near that the Pistons P the Pistons pulled this out of their ass wow like it is it is a stunning stunning move they kept this under wraps or they made a pivot at the last second here we go Hornets silver says well the Hornet we already know He Salon yeah all right that was the shortest duel for the six pick ever it was the shortest all right now we wait here we go unbe how do you not love the draft this is great next year’s going to be even more frustrating I will say this I will say this it is funny that for two years in a row the Hornets tried to leverage the Blazers and the Blazers double barrel them it’s like no no I don’t think so Hornets we’re good I don’t think so okay now man it’s Tak taking a long time for uh that pick to get announced slid in here by Shams or WJ I know you know what I mean like yeah what’s going on here Joe yeah let’s give it a second Shams just three minutes ago did the ton one I mean everybody is saying though that like the clinging Blazer stuff has been and if you’re the Blazers don’t you take the call from the Grizzlies oh you you you always take the phone call 100% right that’s what I’m saying until the last second leverage this thing to the very last just that’s rhyme with this yeah and I think that’s a fair thing to do I’m just gonna go off of I’m very much with you that kingan is the guy 100% I know we’re we’re we’re in agreement here you’re just saying like the point is you you keep taking those phone calls up until cuz you know you’re going to take if you don’t like what’s offered because if you what if you want to trade back you want you want to trade back to to nine with Memphis and you might get something real like I who knows what they say and that’s the thing is like I I would sit there and hold on to that till the last possible second and then go okay gonna be watching all of the draft people people going that is an insane pick at five is uh mildly entertaining to say the least god dude just refreshing yeah I know I’m doing the exact same thing I’m Donovan kingan yep there it is there it is Donovan kingan falls to the Trailblazers oh the Clinger unreal they got their guy real wow absolutely unreal I’m I’m shocked bro I’m absolutely shocked I they had to have thought there’s a chance he falls to him right like I said earlier I didn’t think he would fall the seven shout out Detroit just shout out Detroit not moving and then taking Holland which bumped like three players down that is such a wild move and and Shout Out Memphis for not clearly offering enough to Charlotte and Charlotte for saying nah we we we want this dude unreal this is W said W said if he would have been in last year’s draft the Blazers would have tried to take him then they’ve liked him for two years as a freshman yeah yeah wow this has been a it’s been an A+ draft for Portland it’s been a good day if you’re talking value extracted you got under the cap you got a wing that matters and impacts and you got the he might be the best player on their board I I think the mock would suggest to me and I don’t know if Joe would admit this but the mock would suggest to me he was one onea whatever you want to call it so they got W if W is on TV especially Danny you know this yeah if W is saying something about the Blazers we know where it came from and they’re talking about we would have taken this dude last year yeah by the way all of it lines up not that this is that important but like all of this lines up with the age okay let’s just kind of go down this now your starting lineup as it sits right now Anthony Simons Shaden sharp Denny abdia tanii Kamar are Jeremy Grant and de raon Off the Bench scoot Henderson tamman Kamara Donovan kingan that is your top eight yep right now right now right now there could be trades could be more movement this changes that’s um our guy is wearing a bow tie your camera just keeps floating up on you everywhere damn it I got to turn that off yes it’s it’s it’s in the tool in the webcam yeah I know hold on um for those wondering I’ll go through the Synergy stats of Donovan Clingan for those that weren’t aren’t subscribed to the um patreon uh Donovan kingan rated in the 95th percentile on post-ups in college basketball last year 77th percentile on Cuts 63rd percentile on putbacks 86th percentile on pick and roll the interesting thing here though is that his pick and roll volume was quite low for what you would expect a guy who’s consistently put in pick and rolls um we’re really getting a look at your five head right now it’s TR stuff trying to there you go just tap it I’m yeah I was in my I was in my settings God it’s move it again there we go there you go um everybody keeps asking is Da gone doesn’t necessarily have to be that right now I’ll give you a high take I think he’s gone by the deadline and you’re floating up again God damn it don’t go into your phone go into your settings and click the tap unlock the red button I am it won’t let me oh geez it won’t let me unbelievable I’m clicking it I promise yeah nothing like solving this on live on air um the only the only real consideration I have about DeAndre or DeAndre aen about Donovan kingan is that he had a foot injury and 7 foot three guys two 280 pounds with foot injuries make me go other than that it’s a hell of a draft hell of a draft trying to hear what he’s saying right now to Monica truly incredible not too often see things work out in this manner um ah come on the draft ask a work ethic question the draft value Scouts folks of that nature who I’ve talked to I’m trying to think of one that had anything negative to say about Donovan and I can’t think of anything like there’s there’s occasionally somebody who like I like somebody better than him here um but [Music] I the people that I know that like him think that he could be like some fact some fact simbly of Mark soul marcusa would be an awesome player to have right hot take so it’s a uh it’s an interesting one that what might I might have to jump back in I can’t get this to stop what what did you un did you click the standard button it won won’t let me do anything makes a noise you’re like it’s because you have another window open behind it if you need to hop out and hop back in that’s fine okay I got it oh you had another window open didn’t you no I I figured it out I figured it out it was something else it’s definitely not what you said definitely not what you said all right there we go no slow think I’m good there we go good fantastic stuff God all everyone just so you know because you don’t watch the chat the chat is basically just laughing at you right now um well they they look if they’ve been following the Pod they understand what this is you know what I mean welcome to draft hairlines not the strongest but he’s first rounder there you go it’s still there when when the age is factored this is a good spot um where where do you think of the the draft right now if the they don’t do anything else they move 34 and 40 for whatever um what’s what what what’s your what’s your take on the the draft at this point really good draft I mean I talking about all these prospects uh thinking in the 714 thoughts the minute I saw kinging I was like everybody else I’m like well they got da though and then I’m like oh okay that kind of maybe tells me what the future might hold for that I like Donovan kingan I think he’s a really good basketball player I am one that loves that you come from a good system good coaching strong coaching by the way um played really well curious to see what his minutes production can be because he did it wasn’t like he was playing high high level minutes but a very effective player who worked perfectly within his system and I I I I know you’ve highlighted some of the things you’re kind of uh I I don’t know I say worrisome about but like some of the things you’re curious about but I think he’s the kind of player that works on things gets better learns takes good coaching um you know what I mean I just I I think he’s a very good player and then they ended up with a 69ine wing who already has played in the NBA I saw it with my own eyes I saw it in person and he averaged 15 points per game he had good shooting splits he’s 23 he’s got a very team-friendly contract I I don’t I don’t know how you can think this was a bad draft I guess the things that I have heard about kingan are incredibly high IQ player and the plus playmaking stuff like he’s able to read the floor incredibly well and I think you highlighted something there with you talk about the system that they play in at Yukon it is a very highlevel NBA system it is a ra and react system um there’s that that clip that went viral where they mentioned that each play has 12 different Action Reaction cuts into it that it’s like the NFL where you’ve got option routes but the entire floor is an option route yeah and it’s it’s not premeditated you’re reading and reacting and cling went Dilly by the way there it is Dilly Dilly they went castle and Dilly just want to highlight somebody may or may not have had that in their Intel this morning holy mother of ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding um that was the the news that I thought was going to break the draft the Dillingham pick was like hey guys this one’s a little crazy um had somebody tweet me stand up the shot just it’s you and Rob Dillingham stop get get in frame get in frame we actually me and Rob Dillingham fun fact me and Rob Dillingham the day he got announced his height and his weight exact same size there you go and it was a little offensive how many people like God he’s so tiny this pathetic tiny man Buck 64 I was the day that he was announced a buck 64 I’m a buck 68 now I love this low floor low ceiling sweet pick on Donovan clinging God I love how miserable human beings get about things that they just have no idea maybe maybe but you know what just that’s fine you can have that opinion you don’t have to love it uh I like I think he’s a good player he comes from a good system they’re saying Minnesota traded for the number eight pick which is isn’t all that surprising um because they were they were the team that was rumored to trade up for him that they were the ones tracing trade tra they were the one tracking Dillingham so uh what that cost is going to be though super interesting um people very fond of the forehead shots yeah know it works really good somebody said it’s uh probably pretty awful for your ADHD it was really testing you no it definitely was it definitely was like I could not look at the screen and like have it [Music] like over and over again like an elephant trunk and it was like uh uh uh I swear to God people see white center and it’s just like no I’m not gonna do that I think he’s just my wife is going to drive my dogs entirely crazy so if you could I can’t hear anything no I can’t hear anything you’re kidding me I mean 100% I don’t hear a thing if I could hear it i’ tell you shout out this microphone because they were screaming well my dog was barking earlier in his dreams and I’m like oh my God this guy won’t shut up he’s chasing a mailman right now with a Pam bone in his pocket Memphis is taking Zack Edy number nine there it is yeah so with kingan gone fast this was what was expected is that if kingan they couldn’t get him they were going to take Edy and the thought process was could they fall back and considering they’ve already dealt with it the answer is no so Edy doesn’t go seven but because kingan did go seven Edy goes nine only two picks later Edy top 10 hot damn hey I I I’m a Zack guy I’m rooting for Zach Edy I like the story two-time National Player of the Year like I don’t want to take that too lightly there are a lot of random national players of the year but like two times is is an achievement in itself had a great college career I’m looking forward to seeing him with the grit and grind him with triple j John Morant coming back this year I’m curious to see how it goes happy for him um somebody’s asking what are we doing at 14 well the Blazers traded their 14th pick so not you missed it uh let’s go ahead and refresh I also had a comment I feel like Don was a good pick but is Denny that good and worth all that draft Capital all what draft Capital well let’s no let’s let’s do this let’s let’s act I mean let’s do what we do on the radio okay for people that just hopped into the Pod maybe late then when we started yeah that’s what I saying I was going to reset here was go with yeah the trail blers have traded for Denny AIA they gave up Malcolm brog the 14th pick and a a less favorable a first round pick in 2029 and two second round picks the Blazers had nine second round picks to work with so whatever Malcolm Brock was on an expiring deal and they gave up their less favorable picks their second um the second one they have three of them so it’s like there’s a worst one they’ll keep that the middle one they’ll get rid of so yeah they’ll still have the best one in 2029 if you’re thinking about 2029 right now which is okay some people do I’m not one of those people um they still got two picks in 2029 from the first as you mentioned with the second they still got a ton of those they could use uh for any other moves they want to make um you know they got a 69ine players 23 and average 15 points per game and rebounds I I’m pretty I’m pretty okay with that personally yeah uh abdia is probably better than every player in this draft as far as all of the Wings are concerned somebody said that that the Blazers are going to regret if modus Falls to 14 I don’t think they are I I think they they got the player that in Denny AIA that’s probably going to be better than Maas ever is at this point and I’d rather have that especially when they’ve got it under his contract is is slightly more than like a top five pick like I just I just want to like people to think about that for a second can you explain that real quick to him for those who didn’t hear it he the is on a 4year $55 million deal and is a descending deal it’s at155 I believe this year and it goes down to 115 in year four it’s one of if not the best deals in the NBA for non rookie scale deals that’s thing and now we’re seeing you know kinging can’t move and I’m just like well I I mean I mean no disrespect to anybody in the chat but and we may not change your mind on how you feel about that uh Denny trade what I would add to it though too and it’s okay to say this because I’m putting myself kind of in this category probably didn’t watch a whole lot of Wizards basketball and and it’s okay if you’re not as familiar with that name and you’re like what we gave up all these draft picks in Malcolm for a guy I never watched it’s it’s okay to be curious about it but if you dig into it yes that team sucked no it wasn’t single-handedly his fault and he’s 23 um I don’t know about you Danny been here a long time most of my life feels like this city since Nick left has been craving a guy that’s 69 that can score and handle the Rock and put it on the ground and rebound I mean I is that track with you yes I I was gonna say this is the best Wing they’ve had since Nick like Jeremy’s more forward than I think Wing um don’t tell my brother-in-law that he swears you just Jeremy’s gotta play the three like no stop um jumping face first off the bridge that’s every time I hear somebody say that it’s like I hope he’s watching right now it’s not how it works he’s a four and that’s where he takes advantage of people he’s gonna be like hey I think I just killed mering but yeah what’ you do I put Jeremy at the three like hey if this was Neil Neil would tell us with Denny we project to be a 54 win team so uh as it has been over his career Denny has spent the majority of his time at the three he has slid down to the two very little and he has slid up to excuse me to the five very little but he does play some four I’d love to see all of it to be honest with you three four interchangeable that’s like that’s what I like about that um as a uh as a rebounder because that’s what every wants to know um with Denny abdia on the floor I’m looking through through his career teams Rebound with him at a 93rd percentile on defensive rebounds and 60th percentile on offensive rebounds yeah no he um he rebounds for a forward his lowest rating across any position in his career is the 85th percentile on the defensive glass hey who what GM drafted Jaylen Brown uh Danny a what player would you guess Danny a is taking at number 10 Jaylen Brown’s not in this draft right but Danny Ang loves what weeks yeah which one Utah oh Cody oh yeah no Cody’s been number one on their board yeah that’s not surprising at all I just I think it’s funny it’s officially announced he’s going Utah yeah that’s yeah that I didn’t think in talking to Utah over the last couple days no one believed he’d be there and they were looking oh I can’t believe he’s at 10 I can’t believe it the the opportunities that were there they I think they were looking at topic so it’s an interesting pick for whoever m is now there at 11 and Urus is Lithuanian and has ties to the lith Lithuanian national team which modest plays for um there’s they could I’ve heard uh him I’ve heard Devin Carter and heard uh Dalton connect those are the three guys I’ve most heard associated with Chicago Bulls so the modest one do you think he’s more a three or a four because D rozan being there is interesting well might be on the way out if Paul George leaves where’s D Ro where’s D rozan from no I know I know Kendrick told me I know we out here oh my God that was one of the best concerts I’ve ever seen in my life uh hands down also uh Russ was about a millisecond from going gang sign John Wall before he realized there’s a lot of cameras I can’t throw up sets I don’t have a guaranteed contract Russ does enough good things in the community wherever he lives that I think people would have overed it but the funniest thing was me actively cutting vegetables in my kitchen in Damascus Oregon just listening to Kendrick I was sitting in this chair like I was like I’m going to get some work done and then it turned to me just doing I know I was my so embarrassed she’s like what are you doing I’m like this was cool back in the day don’t worry about it just let me gig just let me do it yeah I just um I’m gonna put this as just a quick warning to everybody in the chat keep the politics out of it it’s not it’s not we’re not doing it here um politics yeah just we’ll just keep it at that um who brought no no no no no I’m no not you I’m just talking about what’s going on in the chat we’re not we’re not doing that here oh please no this is a basketball podcast so go to C or wherever you want to go for your news we’re not doing it here I have no interest this is this is a is a is a basketball safe space this is sports brother don’t argue about your favorite old gu somewhere else I have no interest right now I uh I I I like Cody Williams is the guy obviously I wanted Portland to take uh I like Cody a lot them getting the Blazers getting AIA for me was like I I soon as that went through I made a couple phone calls and I was like I don’t think they’re taking Cody anymore so I went and checked it out after you said it it you were right like not that not that like Reddit is the end all be all um it’s very interesting to read the Washington Wizard subreddit yeah no they’re they’re not they’re not happy about that so um I think D we’ve been going for an hour and a half here yeah do you want to I know you got to get to the facility yeah um I’ll tell you what folks if anything else pops off tonight I’ll do a patreon and we will uh number one Dusty and I will be on air during the second round we will be doing the picks live as they come to us and then we will do a another show again tomorrow like I don’t know if Brandon can do it I will be doing a show again tomorrow I will text you yes I know you’re never mind you’re yeah I’ll text you yeah yeah um but we will do we’ll do a followup one too because the presser Saturday satday and I just don’t know what time yet yeah so if I think anything like you have reaction to the second round stuff um tomorrow just coincidentally ended up my the draft was 5 days later than last year’s tomorrow is my wife’s birthday so tomorrow is a really tough day for me and then I know that the press conference is going to be Saturday I will stream that where I’m at but I won’t be back in town till Sunday I’d love to do if you’re available to do a pod Sunday totally down yeah no for sure we we want to make sure we kind of put a bow on this process because we start moving into summer league I know in two weeks like you’re flying out to Vegas in like two weeks so yeah um if if for whatever reason we get a big trade tonight and then I mean by that I mean like a Jeremy Grant size trade I will Circle back and throw something on I don’t care what time it is I’ll do a quick solo one uh go over that stuff catch catch that too if that happens and then uh I’ll be on in the am on 1080 we’ll talk about it obviously there um we’re effting a Wizards person tomorrow for 8:30 a.m. so we’ll get kind of some Intel from people who followed Denny last year to give you more of an understanding of who the player is um we’ve got um uh Tyler from No Ceilings on at 7:30 to give us his thoughts on their trade getting clinging at 7 he’s gonna be I can tell you right now he is going to call this an absolute smash of a draft it’s kind of why I was hoping he was available um so that’ll be that’ll be on the radio and then as you mentioned your show 12 to3 you guys will be going live with the second round picks as well so we got you guys fully covered follow Danny on Twitter tonight for the post first round presser with Joe and Company and um yeah man this was this was a lot of fun nerve-wracking as all hell and this draft isn’t even supposed to be good I’m gonna be a mess next year it’s GNA be tough next season oh the lottery especially uh they’re asking if they can see you from the forehead up before you go yeah absolutely let’s just you know let’s just end it end it like that there we go get that hairline just right all right everybody you can find us on social media Danny BR Brand break Jack dramy email the show Jack dramy gmail.com like review subscribe uh help us grow the show a thousand of you in here today uh if you haven’t already subscribed click on the Subscribe button I don’t do that enough I don’t ask enough of that so we appreciate you we love you uh like I said I I put a quick patreon post up on uh Denny AIA that’s up now I will do a draft write up uh probably I’m going to go to practi right now and start working on it while I’m there while they’re getting everything ready for the press conference we’ll react to the press conference and any other deals any other happenings or any other Intel that I have leading into tomorrow’s second round thank you all so so so very much we appreciate you we love you um this is a good day like I I look if you if you mad great grand go be a miserable human being I I’m telling you right now my phone has basically said the Blazers are crushing this like from the jump from everyone they got their favorite guy and they got a position of need for a price that they don’t feel they overpaid for I’m happy so um we’ll Circle back and then uh we’ll talk more here in the next 24 40 hours take care everybody talk soon
Join Danny Marang and Brandon Sprague for the 2024 NBA Draft where the Trail Blazers open things up with a big swing trading for Wizards wing Deni Avdija and sending out Malcolm Brogdon and picks.
What will they do with the #7 pick in the NBA Draft? We’ll bring it to you live!
26 Comments
Blazers great moves
Not the night I was hoping for but I do like Clingan, and Avdija is a solid rotational role player. I'll need to see what Blazers get in return for Ayton and Timelord.
Clingan to PDX, Beautiful!
Wiz just messed up BIG time!
How can any real NBA fan not know Deni??
Such a great trade!
Play ayton for 28 min and clinigan 20 its about what he used to trade grant start ayton walker deni sharpe ant 6th man scoot 7th camara 8th rupert 9th clinagan not nessisarly in that order except scoot interesting young team
Avdija can ball. This was a good trade for Portland
Sinking Sprague cracking me up.
With Brodgon basically looking like salary filler in this…and RW3 predictably hurt. The real loser of this, is in the review of the Jrue Holiday (two time champion) trade.
All the good teams in the league are trying to load up on 2 way player but the Blazers draft a one dimensional player
My takeaways from tonight:
– Holland at 5?? Sell the team, Pistons
– Edey at 9… we done broke the Grizzlies, y'all
– Wizards were aggressive and made some very respectable decisions, for once
– Blazers front office finally proved their competence
– Lakers won big with Knecht at 17
Watching Sprague wrestle with technology cracks me up!!! 😂
Unless u have a dominant center (which is rare), the position should be manned by committee- 3 duded w different skill sets, like a bullpen.
Let's go ##RipCity ❤🖤
Brandon, man your a funny guy, preciate the pod. Love the trade, but not sure on clingsn guy, i truly dont think he is better than aytom, matter fact i know he's not. Damn the kinecht guy shoulda been the pic🤦🏿 #flowerpower👊🏿😁
Wow, what a move.. Deni is a really good player. What a huge win
LOL… Best Part of Draft CLINGAN (Lets GO!!!)
Then brandons camera continually falling & giving us a head shot… ; )
"too small" signal i guess… ;
I heard his nickname is "cling kong"
Deni Avdija is best as a point forward. he played PG at high-school. they've changed his role from SF to point forward after the TDL and his numbers went to 20ppg 6apg 8rpg at that part of the season. ending with 15 6 4 the all season. True shooting 60%.
I honestly think we overpaid a bit but i get the reasoning
Deni is Mario Hezonja’s potential realized.
I think it's wild we could've traded 7 for 9 and still gotten Cody Williams.
Blazers want to try to start winning now, Deni fits that timeline. Wiz are one year into a complete and total rebuild where they are still jettisoning players to acquire assets to build with. Seems like a trade both teams will be fine with. You all should be excited about what Deni can bring, he wasn't likely on the Wiz timeline anyway.
Thanks for breaking down that trade. That makes a lot of sense. Avdija sounds like a player that we were looking for in the draft and he is proven.
Another key detail: Deni Avdija is multi positional and he is a valuable asset now and into the future.
If Portland wins Cooper Flag or Ace Bailey next year, Deni can play along side them at either 3/4 position.
Also – in the Hypothetical situation we get a Cooper Flagg/AceBailey and Tumani takes a step forward to where he NEEDS to start over Avdija, Deni still is an incredibly tradeable and useable piece for ANY NBA team. He’s not going to lose much value, or inhibit our future flexibility. Great short term and long term move by Joe Cronin.