NBA Free Agency Begins On Sunday – June 28: The Insiders + D-Lo & KC
hey chatty gang what’s good everybody everybody say hi to Matt George good morning oh boy I uh I did a bad job of preparing the studio today so we’re flying by the seat of our pants a little bit you did a great job what up Warren guys I kind of think Brandon a my time today is at Levis he leaves I need to hit my contributor up what up chatty house yeah Matt talk to the people entertain people mat mattress shy house NOP not on this show oh whoops Matthew’s mattress wants to give us little money then it be the Matthew mattress I appreciate that all right my mattress after all shout out to him though yeah um I’ll go there next time I need a mattress for sure what are The Vibes this morning we expecting are we feeling the trade today is today the trade is today the deal that Monty is set up set the table for he was like I know the Friday edition of the Insiders The Vibes is going to be high The Vibes are going to be high uh who got the belt today uh Chester monk Jackson gets the belt is that right that’s that’s who it says I’m on okay here we go let’s do a show oh it sure is but a little bit different addition of the Insiders Matt George filling in today for James ham James still down on assignment in Cabo he will be back Monday so Matt George from ABC 10 enough to fill in hey buddy hey it’s happy I’m happy to be here man uh no bets this time no no bets this time we’re out on that no I was a little disappointed honestly so if you if you missed last time Matt filled in on our filled in on this show um we made a bet on the was it it was a season season God it was that long ago it was literally the start of the king season because it was King Warriors home opener all right so before the season opener Matt and I made a made a little wager on that game where the loser would have to eat spicy foods of the Winner’s Choice and the funny part of this is that you wound up doing it to yourself yeah I I I doomed myself yeah because I I I got what I thought was going to be so I got a couple of different like spicy kind of chips but they were it was fine nothing crazy and then I got a a a curry which was bomb that I thought it was delicious fantastic just eating it just it just wasn’t that spicy at all I I put in the put in the door Dash order I was like make this as spicy as you can and they didn’t I I they definitely didn’t uh but you then got one of the hot sauces the the Bomb hot sauce from from hot ones and really did it to yourself yeah it was that was a tough it was an adventure it it was an adventure and shout out to Kyle because that was during a a recording of the lockon Kings podcast and and Kyle had to essentially carry the final segment of the conversation while I was going through an existential crisis point you went uh just talk about stuff for I quit you got it man and I started biting into a jug of Ice Cream Sweet relief was making eye contct with you while eating a Popsicle that was a weird moment making eye contact but just kind of looking through me there was nobody home oh no it was I was seeing red man all all hands on De survival mode kicked in yeah D bomb is no joke so when you see those celebrities have those reactions they’re not and I had like a drop they get a decent amount on that I had I had a drop yeah awful man it it’s part of my podcast set a little bottle so no no Wagers will be made on spicy foods today uh we are going to talk about the Kings though so you’ve not uh been in obviously it’s been Jesse Topia salute to Jesse I did a great job filling in this week um where are you at on the Kings as of today because the Jaylen McDaniels trade happened after our show yesterday so we’ve not gotten a chance to talk about that that was Davon Mitchell Sasha venkov the number 45 in this year’s draft Portland’s second round pick in next year’s draft that goes to Toronto for Jaylen McDaniels uh what what’s what’s your Vibe today yeah I know we’re gonna break down the trade a little bit more we’ll talk about Devin Carter and everything so I’ll kind of just sum it up here briefly sure essentially like to me it’s a what’s next right like it’s it’s an incomplete like the off season is nowhere close to being complete and even Monty by his own words at the press conference at the end of night one of the draft he was saying like he can considers the draft almost opening night of the off seon even though they made the Malik signing which not allowed to talk about for some reason and the Mike Brown hiring yeah they couldn’t he couldn’t talk I asked him about it he basically said I can’t talk about it right now even though free agency has changed for your own free agency I don’t know but he’s already made Moves this he’s he get the Mike Brown he made arguably the biggest moves of the summer already with Mike Brown and and Malik monk but he considered the draft like this the beginning of the off season so and that if that’s the case we’re very early days into this offseason right now so there’s still a lot more to come I hope there should be there has to be I said I literally yesterday on the show Jesse asked me do you trust Monty McNair to make those additional moves because I’m all in i i in the Devin Carter pick was odd at first yeah because the the consensus was just not a guard yeah we were on the same wavelength and then they take Devin Carter and it’s like well okay he’s good yeah can play and I thought he would be an upgrade in their guard rotation and sure enough Davon Mitchell was part of that deal to get Jaylen McDaniels but so so the consensus on on our show yesterday and I think in in the chatty house as well and salute to the chatty house at youtube.com ESPN 1320 and twitch.tv ESPN 1320 uh the consensus kind of was like yeah okay Devin Carter is good full stop that guy can hoop uh but that can’t like what so is Kevin herder just going to play the three and that’s the wing depth that can’t be it and so Jesse asked me if I trusted him to make those moves to kind of improve that Wing depth whether it’s over Harrison Barnes or whether it’s in the in the rotation as a seventh eightth guy and I said I trusted him to make a move but I didn’t trust him to not have it be and I literally said Jaylen McDaniels and resigning Kessler Edwards so it’s your fault so I’m one for two so far go I expected Kessler Edwards news shortly that’s why this is the Insiders Kyle Matson had Jaylen McDaniels before literally anybody else yep you never wrong just early um Yeah man so I’m kind of with you I think they’re in a good spot for the most part um it’s just very obvious they’re in a they’re in a they’re in a bit of a unique position to me because it they’re not it’s not like they’re up against it and it’s hey they got to sign somebody for a vet minimum and that’s what it’s going to be they’re not golden state has to figure out what they’re doing with Chris Paul they got to figure out what’s going on with Klay Thompson if they don’t bring those guys back okay what are going to do in the it’s not like a convoluted thing with with the Kings is pretty straightforward they need Wing dep yeah and that’s it yeah and and maybe depth at the at the center spot if if you can find it yeah to me like the word that I keep going back to is the word that Monty used when he first took the job and it’s flexibility like flexibility is what is one of the primary things that’s most important to him and he’s been consistent with how he has run this organization throughout his time here in Sacramento living up to kind of that that flexibility term the Kings have whether through comments or rumors or moves themselves set themselves up this offseason to go in a multitude of different directions right they can go for the big swing right now if they want to they set the table for hey we can not exactly run it back but we can sort of run it back both Mike Brown and Monty McNair made comments at the end of the season and their end of season press conference is like we we’re not that far away we’re pretty close so said in the table for it’s not a bad thing if we don’t make a swing this summer we know we have to improve and we’re always looking to improve that’s Monty’s thing we’re all looking to improve course but Monty is not the kind of guy that’s just gonna make a move for the sake of making a move which is respectable but at the same time infuriating when you go through two trade deadlines the most recent one you see a team like the Dallas Mavericks make the moves they have to make and lo and behold they made an NBA Finals run yeah I don’t know I don’t think the Kings would have made an NBA Finals run if they made those moves but you have an VI weakness yeah address it and you had with the 13th pick a chance to address it you chose not to okay you still have time to address it you need to there is no running Kevin herder and and whatever you have and Kesler Edwards and Jaylen McDaniels into next season and going okay now we can feel confident about our ability to compete in the Western Conference yeah and I think the thing with the draft pick specifically is I don’t think I think so so I think Devin Carter is going to impact winning now I think his role this year will be different than his role next year and the year after that as he kind of grows into the NBA but I think he can do enough things to help them win this year which is great but I think even if they had drafted jacobe Walter is a guy I always go to the forward from Baylor or the wing from Baylor he’s just the guy I always land on even if they had drafted jacobe Walter I would be saying the same thing yes it’s not hey yeah this guy’s gonna be your ninth guy now the there the the the need is still there it’s just such a it’s just such a vital thing in the NBA which is why going and getting Jaylen McDaniels is great um if they resigned Kessler Edwards okay great but there has to be and I think that’s where that’s where I was so focused on something like big it’s Brandon Ingram it’s KY kman now Paul George comes up we’ll talk about in a little bit but to your to your point with Dallas uh Dallas didn’t make any Earth shattering moves nope they just they they got better for sure when they brought in PJ Washington and they got better when they brought in Daniel Gafford and that’s the Kings to me okay if it’s not Kyle kosma then it has to be or or Brandon Ingram then it just has to be somebody who’s better than what you have right now if you can take Harrison Barnes who I think is Harrison barns is a fine NBA player I don’t think he can win a title if he’s your starting four that’s that’s just kind of it but if he’s your eighth or ninth Guy where you have that versatility he can guard two through four uh he can play a little small ball five in in a pinch that that all of a sudden that depth feels better so you just need it just needs to be an upgrade right and who that is I don’t know but it doesn’t I I think we’ve gotten so hyperfocused on the like Kyle kma type of move or the Brandon Ingram type of move where it’s it’s like okay if that’s not there fine go find something else then that’s not Jaylen McDaniels I’ll do respect sometimes I like to do this little exercise where it’s like what take the actual actions or moves that they’re being made and pretend they were words at the beginning of an offseason so the moves that Monty has made to this point right what if he had said at the beginning of the offseason we a rookie and a rotational Wing kind of in Jaylen McDaniels I don’t know if he’s a rotational Wing or not I kind of put him in the same box as Kessler Edwards at this point where a wing depth piece away from truly competing imagine if he had said that we would all rolled our eyes it it’s not enough it can’t be enough and I think Monty’s even acknowledged that to some point when he was asked about it on draft night and he talked about roster construction he goes hey we’re aware we know we have other moves to make on a roster but essentially he said and this is where we have to have faith in rgm and I Ed the Royal wi is and Us in Sacramento we have to have faith in rgm because what he said was we had options available I thought the kings were gonna pull off a buzzer beater trade I really thought they were going to Y and they had deals in front of them now if it were to come out that there was a Kyle kman deal lined up and they said you know what we’re gonna go the Devin Carter route I’m probably going to have a little bit of an issue with that but that information might not ever come out but we know there were deals in place or there were conversations and what Monty said was we weighed all of our options Carter fell to 13 they were not expecting him to be there and Monty said out of all of our options nothing was better than drafting Devin Carter sure that’s where you have to trust the general manager that even though we have these hypothetical ideas in our brain of oh get that guy or get that guy or make this kind of improvement that’s us kind of playing in the fantasy world based off of rumors and what we think would work versus he’s the general manager that’s actually having conversations and if he’s saying that nothing else was better than taking this rookie who is 22 years old high defensive upside can play both ends of the floor then we have to take him at his word with that yeah but that doesn’t give him a pass for you still have these holes on your roster you had eight guards at the time you’ve now traded one of them in Davon Mitchell which is good in a move that is a complete precursor to something more it has to be it doesn’t make sense if it’s anything else yeah we’ll dive into that move a little bit more next um I get I get it for sure of of Devin Carter was was the best option and and I think he’ll help him win games and that’s great um but man it would be it would be really really tough I think to to feel great going into the season if that’s it right and that’s kind of where it’s a it’s a tough line to walk uh but this Jaylen McDaniels move is interesting why did they do it who is Jaylen McDaniels how can he contribute we’ll talk about all that next plenty of Kings coming up and is Brandon auk just going to sign his contract today uh he might we’ll talk about next that’s Matt George I’m Kyle Madson we’re hanging out with you until noon on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader that would be a little anticlimactic wouldn’t it for Brandon auk just to sign today it’s like all the drama and then he’s just like all right we got a deal done I’m sure I think the the Niners would be I think Niner Nation would be Beyond thrilled but after going into training camp two years in a row with no uh Debo and then no Nick Bosa to get iuk candled this early it would be very offbrand good to see you too scooter um entertain the people I’m gonna go get our R I can do my best to entertain the people TV Georgia hey people I’m here to entertain you how’s everybody doing let me scroll through so we people are saying Brandon s don’t trust Monty Monty at all though why do you not trust him because he hasn’t made Moves when you wanted him to make moves or you don’t trust the moves that he has made because I understand the concern that he’s gonna stay put again but I think he’s earned the trust and the faith of King’s fans with the moves that he has made have been good moves especially the biggest move that he made right doesn’t matter what Tyrese halberton is doing in Indiana that was a good move that the Kings pretty much had to make so I am of the belief that he is very trustworthy okay and I got a clock right here too on this fancy schmancy little thing open up the phone lines drink some water stay hydrated Drew down matt you look much harder on ABC respectfully thank you I work harder he wears a suit I have to wear a suit and I have to get a little more done up than I am right now I miss I miss sometimes the radio Vibes of just like wearing a polo and shorts is freaking awesome you were dressed up I’m I am kind of dress joggers in a t-shirt I am kind of dressed up I W here’s my morning I walk over grab whatever shorts joggers I’m gonna wear I open my t-shirt drawer and I go I put on a t-shirt then I walk into a closet and I go do you do it in the dark no no no no um this time of year when I wake up it’s light enough oh okay um but I also uh when it is dark in the morning so when I wake up I just turn my like closet light on and it lights up enough of what I need to see yeah and I go in I grab a hat and I don’t I like dress clothes because at least I know that it’s they’re like I don’t have to mix and well you do have to mix and match colors but I don’t have to like plan that hard it’s just it’s dress clothes safe this suit but when you wear dress clothes every day it gets really annoying to get ready like it’s it’s almost a chore sometimes to get I’m just like I don’t want to wear it button down shirt and a belt crap nonsense but hey first world problems here’s a this is a real thing that I did one time because I was 24 years old uh Tracy Jordan in 30 Rock that’s Tracy Morgan’s character said to Kenneth the pig uh dress every day like you’re going to get murdered in those clothes which is hilarious but I was like you know what he’s right so I worked at a video streaming company it was like the company top to bottom was like 13 people we you could go in your pajamas it didn’t it didn’t matter uh and so I just started wearing suits I bought a vest had my button-up shirt at a vest um belt dress shoes it works I did that for like two weeks Tai did I went and bought taies just for this felt great about it and I was like H this sucks I it’s so bored with it so fast it’s annoying it’s like I’m done it’s annoying I like getting ready for game so and I just got like you’ll appreciate these Kyle I’m going to debut them probably on opening night this year but I got custom Lord of the Rings Nikes they’re they arrived yesterday oh my God I can’t wait we now back to the Insiders brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 it’s kind of the Insiders that’s Matt George from ABC 10 I’m Kyle Madson I’m always here Matt’s not Matt’s just I just broke in today yeah Matt I have no idea who invited him there still are people that don’t think we are two separate people on correct there still are people that existed genuinely think we’re the same person yeah which I don’t like I get I get if you’re only hearing us we don’t look alike but if you if you’re only hearing I think I think I get it but I I hear your voice differently than I hear my voice sure so I don’t hear it I don’t either but I think that’s offensive to you though if you sound like me because you’re the legit radio professional I playing it fast and loose with professional but you you’ve been in the game I got out the game but I think being a television professional is more of a thing than being a radio professional you’re being a TV guy and walking into a Press Room is like you’re the jock you’re the like oh I’m the TV guy if I’m the jock that’s bad no just not you but TV guys in general it’s you it’s Jake aaden it’s Sean Cunningham it’s Kevin John uh I don’t want to leave Anybody Out Who Am I who am I missing uh Michelle Dapper Michelle dapp sure all the all them uh when they walk in it’s like the jocks walking in when the radio guys walk in it’s like no the radio guys the radio guys are here the radio guys are the the kids that maybe you on and then you actually get to know them and they’re the coolest people that end up being your friends Beyond High School right sure sure sure sure sure yeah no that that makes sense and then the writers are the the quiet the AP the AP course yeah people nerds 91699 1320 9169 91320 if you want to join the program Don you’re on the Insiders that’s Matt George and Kyle Matson what’s up am I on yeah Don am I the Right Don yes oh okay yo yo what’s up Matt yo yo Kyle what’s going on guys happy Friday brosies hey I just wanted to I wanted to ask a question um so obviously you know we’re all waiting on Monty to make his win now move um do you guys think what would the trade package be to get a guy like cam Johnson Monty’s made deals with the Nets before and I feel like cam would probably be cheaper or easier to get than maybe azma or even like Paul George or all these other players out there what would you think the package will look like perfect thanks um first of all pause uh second of all ask me what my package looks like that’s crazy yo um too early for that uh no um yeah I I’m in agreement I think cam Johnson and what it would take to get Cam Johnson would be I don’t want to say better than than going and getting Kyle kusma but I think it would be less expensive and I think that cam Johnson for for me is is an upgrade over Harrison Barnes I if not not maybe not much of one but I think he would be an upgrade it would just depend on cost for for cam Johnson I think I I think it’s hard to look at it from this perspective because we’re thinking and looking from Kings first right so we’re looking at the different targets out there and going who do we want to go out and get that would fit on the Kings the best for the for the cheapest price I think another way to look at it is you have this the main package of what the kings are putting out there is Barnes and herder usually a combination of the two right I think it’s safe to assume that they’re probably isn’t a boatload of interest in that trade package around the league so when when thinking about cam Johnson and the Brooklyn Nets in the direction they’re going versus uh Kyle kosman and the Washington Wizards in the direction that they’re going which teams would have more of an interest you think in two players who are not expiring deals they’re under contract now Kevin herder’s contract is really good the Harrison Barn’s contract isn’t that bad either but Harrison’s under contract for they’re both under contract for two more years I think Harrison’s at like 18 per year and Kevin’s at 16 per year Washington I think they far prefer expiring deals which is one of the reasons I was a little surprised to see Davon Mitchell included in this trade to the Toronto Raptors because I think Mitchell is an expiring deal that you could have put into a package for ausma or if the Brooklyn Nets who are now in rebuild mode wanted to take on some expiring money as well and get some draft assets for their rebuild they just got a boatload of pics for Bridges but maybe they want more sure um I think you could have used Mitchell and maybe even Trey ly Sasha is not technically an expiring deal but his final year as a club option so you could treat it like an expiring deal if you wanted to as a team so that that kind of surprised me a little bit but I I like the idea of Cam Johnson I love the idea of getting both cam Johnson and Dorian FY Smith could swing it because why would Brooklyn hard ball you on both of them when they’re clearly trying to move in a direction away from where they’re currently at yeah I think the other the other thing with this is I think if based on what we know about Monty McNair and finding the right deal like that’s always been the thing right it’s not just making a deal to make a deal it’s the right one like you said earlier that’s where I think that’s where I think cam Johnson is maybe more feasible or Dorian fny Smith is more feasible where they might be able to find a sweet spot where the Kings say okay this upgrades our rotation it upgrades our wing depth uh and we didn’t have to overpay for that player or we overpaid a little maybe it was um a future protected first and a second like ah don’t love it but fine um that’s why I think a player like Johnson or or or Dorian finny Smith is more realistic at this point than Kyle kusma because I think if they were going to go get a big fish like kozma I think they would have done it already and I don’t hate it it’s it’s just um I I I I don’t know what Brooklyn is doing and I don’t know what they want out of those deals and if they’re going yeah we need multiple first for cam Johnson then I don’t I don’t blame the Kings for not doing that yeah absolutely um so when it’s it’s tough to be like yeah we’ll get into a bunch of picks for this player who’s been who’s 28 now and has been largely underwhelming the last couple of years and may or may not be an upgrade over Harrison Barnes right and you know they’re getting rid of him right the kings are trying to save their draft Capital because outside of they still have their their 2025 pick tied up in the Kevin herder trade with the Atlanta Hawks yes that’s still freaking going on but outside of that like they have all of their draft Capital going forward which is a really positive position to be in right you have assets but you don’t want if you’re going to use those assets you want to make sure you’re using them for the big swing that is like the same way look what we just saw the New York kns do right they just went and got Bridges who was a dream Target for me for the Sacramento Kings as well they threw as much draft Capital as they could five first round picks in that deal one of them being a a Milwaukee Bucks pick but that’s the kind of position that Monty I think wants to maintain flexibility for to where hey let’s say the Kings go out and get a cam Johnson without using a bunch of draft capital and let’s theof fifth seed and it out of the first round awesome now going into next season is that the time where you want to really make that big swing to add that one missing piece to put yourself in legit Championship contention you need more context before you get there right but I understand hesitation for Monty this is why I was never really a big fan of the Zack LaVine idea sure going all in right now when you still have so many question marks about this core if you go all in for a Zack LaVine for example you don’t have to go all in for a Kyle kuso but if you go all in for a Zack LaVine not because he’s gonna cost a boatload but because financially he’s gonna pretty much cap you out then you have to be pretty pretty confident that that group immediately can show signs of being a legit Contender because if they don’t you don’t have a lot of f flexibility to address that unless you’re willing to move on from M Keegan or a fox DeMont sabonis because you’re sure as heck not gonna be able to move on from LaVine you’re stuck with him at that point right so there that’s why I think there’s hesitancy amongst the Kings they don’t feel they have to go all in right now which might be frustrating for us when we’re like look at the West you need to get better yeah but getting better and Swinging for the fences are two very different things and sometimes that line gets blurred right it’s like they have this one this you articulated better what I was trying to say earlier they have this suit I’m gonna call it a suitcase of assets sure and okay maybe they can go get kyok kusma but they have to make that one big suitcase of assets uh three smaller to go get Kyle kma who I think makes you better for sure like full stop he’s your starting four and you feel great about it but now in the future when you’re in the Knicks position and you’re like man we are one big piece away from yeah now you have this quarter siiz suitcase and now all of a sudden you’re making smaller moves and we’re wondering why they’re not going all in it’s a little bit it’s a not Apples to Apples it’s a little bit what happened with Kevin hder they made that trade for Kevin herder and now their assets are still tied up which made it a little more difficult to make moves so um I I rock with that for sure and if they can find a a a deal for the right price with Kevin herder or Cam Johnson or Dorian finy Smith or some combination of it great awesome uh but I also understand if the Wizards are asking for ostensibly their entire uh chest which I I it’s never going to happen right and and I think they have to know that and be aware of that too and I think there were reports that initially they were seeking two firsts for kozma and a package at the trade deadline nothing happened and the idea is that price has dropped down to one now at this point I think Kyle kosma can be got for a combination of matching salary and one first round pick I mean look what they just traded Denny for which blows my mind that they made that deal but I’m with you they’re clearly picking a direction I guess so I think kozma can be had and I still think kma makes a ton of sense but if I think that and I know that it’s possible you best believe Monty in the front office have been on the phone with Washington meaning if the deal has not gotten done right by now on some side there’s hesitancy whether it’s the king’s hesitant to give what the Wizards want or the Wizards hesitant to give or to accept what the kings are willing to give right so there’s kind of you’re biing your time here a little bit I think for the direction that the Sacramento Kings are going ke uh uh Kyle kman makes the most sense as the biggest swing that they can make this offseason without completely hamstringing themselves or or locking themselves in but the Dorian Finn Smith or Cam Johnson route might be what makes the most sense for where the kings are at right now to where if you can get one of the two of the I think Mike Brown would be thrilled with either of those guys if not both of them if you get getting both of them is probably gonna take a decent amount yes but if you can go out and get one of them and maybe hold on to Harrison Barnes in the process mhm then now you feel pretty good about your wing depth enough to where okay the two of them compete during training camp let’s say it’s cam Johnson cam Johnson versus Harrison Barnes training camp you’re fighting for that spot that second Wing Spot next to Keegan whoever wins it you get it the other one is coming off the bench in in a significant uh role in that sense versus if I trade Harrison Barnes to go out and get uh cam Johnson for example now I have Kevin herder on this roster who and it’s I don’t think it’s a Mike Brown versus Kevin herder thing at all I know both guys are professionals I know they respect each other they don’t fit right it just it’s clear writing is on the wall that they do not fit they do not work together so the idea of keeping Kevin herder trading Harrison Barnes to address your wing depth you’re still kind of in a similar spot now I think cam Johnson would be a slight upgrade over Harrison Barnes sure but this team is more than a slight upgrade away from legitimately competing in the Western Conference yeah and that’s where that’s where it’s kind of interesting is okay they can go make a slight upgrade and we we’re going to blow through it we’re good um they can make a slight upgrade and get it a little better it’s just doing that and overpaying and hamstringing your assets down the line that doesn’t make a ton of sense so it’s what can you do with your assets that that you have on your roster with a first round pick included and if that’s Cam Johnson if that’s Dorian fny Smith maybe there’s a deal on the table for Kyle k and maybe they have that deal and the Wizards have said yeah we we we like this idea and the kings are working the phones because you know what hey Paul George might get traded here traded here in this timeline not to Sacramento necessarily the athletic Sam amch and Anthony Slater wrote a piece this morning and I this is what I do for for the radio um when a piece like that comes out I open it and then I control F Sacramento just to because I’m not read the whole thing just to find the king’s news I’ll read it all eventually sure but prepping for a show uh zero things yeah in there about the Kings makes sense to me but if you’re Monty McNair he you probably don’t want that out there so maybe they’re keeping it under wraps and again I’m I’m very theorizing here that they don’t want to tie up an asset or two in Kyle kma or Dorian Finn Smith or Cam Johnson because hey this Brandon Ingram trade stuff is is still their stuff in motion and the Kings are on the phone trying to get involved in that and oh hey Paul George has indicated some again making stuff up here uh Paul George has indicated some interest he wants to stay on the west coast that’s his only stipulation oh kings are on the west coast we got these assets okay let’s let’s let’s call the Clippers and let’s start talking things out where if you make this deal for kzo it’s like okay that’s it you’re out of the running for that and that and you know that kma Deal’s on the table so that that is in the back in my mind too where hey maybe it’s not a bigger move down the road they’re worried about maybe there’s a big fish to go potentially land now and they’re hoarding assets for that and okay Paul George signed with the Clippers he’s staying there uh Brandon Ingram got traded to Atlanta or they just they they tell the Kings hey you know what we’re good on this we’re working out this other deal cool they call Washington they do that salary dump or not dump but salary Swap and and a first and they L kma everything’s good but there’s just not a rush to to do it I yeah that’s where I think again it goes back to the word flexibility and that’s just I have this mental picture in my brain of Monty and his front office sitting around a table and in front of them are like four pieces of paper four photos and one’s a photo of kusma one’s a photo of Cam Johnson one’s a photo of Brandon Ingram one’s a photo of Paul George and underneath them are like notes of what it’s going to take and and repercussions and what it looks like and they have all these options ma mapped out and they’re exploring all of them there’s a whiteboard there’s a yeah there’s a whiteboard in front of that flatty took a picture of that that leaks his information online but regardless like there’s there’s these options out in front of them and some might be swept off the table because they’re taking the time to gather everything so one might a team might go well we’re not waiting around we’re gonna go this round instead so now you wipe that one off the table but the kings are trying to collect as much information as possible and an idea of what the package is going to look like and and and what position it puts them in going forward and then they’ll make a decision with one of them like that’s if I’m putting trying to put myself into the brain of Monty McNair just based off of the access that I have and conversations that I have with him I’ve never had much of a conversation with him that wasn’t on the record and in a press conference setting but just my understanding of how Monte operates that’s what makes the most sense the kings are basically compiling different options that they have they’ll lay them all out there and hopefully they’ll be able to have their pick of which one is best for them when you take that route though you run the risk of you’re kind of playing different people you’re dating right and some might lose interest and go other other ways and then now a deal that was potentially available to you is no longer on the table and then you see the reactions that we see on social media which is they got that person Monty what are you doing how did they get that how was that all it took to get that person right well maybe because the Kings had a deal in place but they waited to look at other options so you just never know oh boy let’s talk about this Jaylen McDaniel’s deal uh that’s Matt George I’m Kyle Madson we the Insiders hanging out with you until noon so yesterday the Kings made a move and they acquired Jaylen McDaniel Davon Mitchell Gone Sasha bankov gone number 45 pick in this year’s draft gone Portland’s 2025 second round pick gone um there’s two prongs to this let’s get to the Jaylen McDaniels one first sure um this is fine I like Jaylen McDaniels as a project but he’s also been in the league for four years now mhm and he hasn’t been able to crack a rotation in Charlotte couldn’t regularly do it in Toronto maybe he gets to Sacramento gets in their player development program and takes the leap that Kessler Edwards never took and oh my God the Kings got they’re starting four for basically nothing is what that would come out to no no disrespect to Davon and those picks and Sasha but if jayen McDaniels turns into jadden McDaniels his brother uh if he turns into Jaden McDaniels that dra that trade is gonna be like wow flee him yep uh but I’m not super confident that’s going to happen this is a nice to me from the player addition perspective this is a depth play but I don’t I’m not super amped about Jaylen McDaniels hanging out on the cak yeah this is it’s it’s kind of a harsh thing to say because we’re talking about a human being and a player that’s unique and brings their own stuff to the table but to me you added a body you added a 6 foot n body you added a wing which this team needs more of so you you’ve added more size you added another option to take a look at going into training camp can’t sit here on the radio every day and be like they need to get a wing and then when they get a wing I go not that one exactly so you got a body but look Jaylen McDaniels had a woefully bad offensive season last season like 16% from three-point range but that’s not even that bad it’s like 33% from the field period 34.4% sorry how dare I 34% from the field is horrendous now he has defensive upside he has the measurements he has the athleticism he has the wingspan so again he’s a body but if we’re talking about this trade just from an asset for asset trade the Kings got fleeced because you gave up two rotational caliber players Davon Mitchell we know can play rotational minutes Sasha venkov there is a question mark I don’t think the Kings properly utilized him I also don’t think it was a good fit period I thought Sasha venkov was a year too late a year earlier he probably would have been fantastic on that first version of the Kings but where the kings were trying to go last season he didn’t make sense and the way Mike used him or didn’t use him I think speaks volumes to that it just didn’t make sense going forward but Sasha I think is an NBA caliber player you gave up two players that can play rotational minutes in Toronto plus two second round picks and just got Jaylen McDaniels back who is a body or a fringe rotational piece but that trade isn’t about the assets Kyle the trade is about the finances the trade is about the money I don’t know when you want to dive in and break into that so that’s so when I saw this deal because all it said the first report from WJ was that they just traded Sasha and Davon that was it to Toronto there you go take them for what w if W is not telling you immediately what the Kings got back that means it’s probably not as good as what they gave up yes or they were kind of just like yeah we’re working it out we got to get somebody they’re going it’s one of these couple of guys you gota so it winds up being Jaylen McDaniels but the the second piece of this and the piece of this that you can look at it two ways there’s the optim optimistic way to look at it and the pessimistic way to look at it sure it got him under the luxury tax so The Optimist says giving themselves some room yep clearing up some money what Paul George gonna want a Max Bron Ingram is goingon to want a Max hey the pessimist goes that’s their priority yeah is getting under that tax line doesn’t want to pay a tax bill buddy it can’t no it can’t be that I’m ref I just for my mental health I’m refusing to believe that that’s what this is I think that’s a little bit of PTSD too from all the public Mike Brown negotiations which were Silly and ridiculous and never should have gone that long but look at VC’s track record I know it hasn’t been the best he’s made a lot of mistakes as an owner but the one thing VC has never failed to do is spend money now he hasn’t spent money correctly they’ve spent money on the wrong kind of things at times but V has been pretty consistent with like compared to the males VC’s been pretty consistent with spending money and I think the writing’s on the wall and if Monty hasn’t had the conversation with VC already that hey with the state of the western conference right now we’re probably going to need to dip into the luxury tax if we want to maintain this core and legitimately compete V’s the one that’s upset that the Kings missed the playoffs last year he wants to be a perennial playoff team now that the drought is finally over I understand that completely you got to spend money to be able to do that you have a Payday coming up for Keegan Murray dearon Fox is not signing an extension because he’s holding out for a super max possibility if he makes another all NBA team and that’s going to be 300 something million dollars one of the richest contracts in NBA history so that the writing’s on the wall that you’re G to have to dip into the luxury tax you also have a new TV deal coming in that’s going to raise the cap and help you avoid that luxury tax a little bit more so the luxury tax today is going to be the standard tomorrow right that being said I don’t believe for one second that’s what this is I think it’s a pre you’re setting yourself up for financial flexibility you’re now $7 million under the luxury tax and now just shy of $15 million under that first luxury tax apron yes once you get past that apron now you start to have some not penalties but there there are rules put in place to keep competitive balance there’s certain things once you pass that first apron there’s certain things you can’t do like sign a certain free agent or execute a sign trade or something we don’t have to get into all that but essentially you have you don’t want to be on their apron correct you do not so you now have just shy of $15 million before you hit that apron use that 15 million to either go out and sign a free agent or execute a trade where you can take in some salary or of course if you include Harrison Barnes and and Kevin herder’s deals in a trade now you have wiggle room in addition to their combined uh $34 million that you can go a little you can take in a little bit more than that 34 million in a big deal if you want to make a big swing again flexibility is the word I’m going to keep saying it it gives Monty flexibility to make a big move the skepticism is will he actually make it right right um okay we’ll continue talking about this we’ll continue talking Kings off season couple interesting Moves In The West that we will get into and we’ll talk about day two of the NBA draft as well because that was a fascinating fascinating uh television production Don I see on the line we will get to you next as well your call is at 916 99132 9169 913 two that’s Matt George filling in for James ham I’m Kyle mads and we’re the insid we’ll be right back on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader clear that’s my fault I I totally just blew through the break didn’t I you’re good whoops that’s why we yeah basically if we get to like in that break it’s 28 uh if we get to 30 it’s just we’ll just keep going got because at that point it doesn’t make sense to break yeah makesense it wasn’t it was fine the conversation was good it wasn’t it wasn’t like we were uh we were up against it and slamming into a wall and had to drag it out lezy asks what’s the best sporting event you’ve ever been to it’s a great question being at the Super Bowl was dope just to be there was was pretty incredible um my favorite man that’s tough what was the question bet sporting event that I’ve ever been to oh like best game yeah yeah um that’s that’s tough because I haven’t truth be told like I just go to a lot of the same team over and over again I’ve been to a billion Kings games in my life so I’ve seen some amazing Kings moments in my life but um I’m not gonna like it it sounds cliche but that first playoff game game one against golden state was was unbelievable for me and that was my first ever Kings playoff game period I’d never been to one as a kid like ever I’d always been my uncle had season tickets but during the playoffs he went with his buddies his family or whatever so I didn’t I didn’t never go so that was my first ever Kings playoff experience and that was to win that game and to have the atmosphere be what it was like that’s an all kind alltime memory for me I legit so I was in Tahoe for that with uh some friends it was great weekend just going vibant that’s always we didn’t have plans we we didn’t leave our cabin nothing so none of the people I was with were interested in watching the game so I’d watch on a laptop I thought my speakers were broken how loud it was on my La yeah just the way and the way it sounded I was like there’s what is wrong with my speak and so threw it on the TV real quick it’s like nope it’s just loud as [ __ ] oh the whole game yes it’s like oh my god there have been some ear popping moments that translate well on TV from Kevin herder’s gamewinner against Utah that that moment I I will still stand by it I know it didn’t work out but the first ever California classic the first ever classic game when the kings were rolling out a lineup of fox Frank Mason Harry Giles and Marvin Bagley and rookie Marvin bagley’s first ever NBA bucket is dumping on Mo vogner dunking on him and that place lost it and I remember thinking like this is it because the Kings finally got the number two pick they got draft lottery luck they go out and get Marvin Bagley his first moment as a poster and we’re just like God is finally smiling down upon Sacramento I am able to separate that moment from everything that happened because in that moment it was Foria it was such an amazing moment plus first ever California class and of course Sac Sacramento showed up and that place was packed yeah that was sick before the Warriors stole it uh it’s back this year you can win tickets right now at ESPN 1320.com a four pack of three-day passes check it out um was i g to say the best sporting event I’ve ever been to was the Niner Saints playoff game in the 2012 divisional round Candlestick yeah that was banana sandwich uh that’s pretty sick that was amazing and then the 06 ALDS game three against the twins yeah uh that was uh that’s pretty crazy that was that was Bonkers that was a good ass time I wish I had gone to the that game two ALDS against the Tigers man I had the opportunity to go to that game in college the one with Coco’s walk-off and I didn’t go one of my favorite nights in sports ever wait game two or game four game two which one is game two game two was when Koko hit the walk-off no that was game four oh it was I’m sorry game it was game four you’re correct game four was when he hit the walkoff that was insane why did I think it was game two game four hey we’re back now back to the Insiders brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 Matt George there Kyle Madson here James ham Cabo we’ll be back on Monday Matt George ABC 10 filling in today uh talking about the Kings offseason just kind of recapping what’s happened through the now that the draft is over the Jaylen McDaniels acquisition clearing up some money what could be next uh meanwhile elsewhere in the west and Don I see on the line we’ll get to you shortly um the Mavericks traded Tim Hardaway Jr who inexplicably fell out of their rotation well not inexplicably he started playing really badly yeah he fell out of their rotation in the playoffs he gets moved to uh Toronto excuse me Detroit sorry guy Toronto coming in a minute uh he gets moved to Detroit for Quinton Grimes who I really like for them that’s a really nice pick up for Dallas he can hit a three plays some good defense uh does a lot of the things that I think Devin Carter is going to do for the Kings um so he is now in Dallas and that opens up the full non-t taxpayer mid-level for them to pay Derrick Jones yes so the MAV is going to try some form of running it back after going to the finals that makes sense and then other NBA news the Raptors gave him manual quickly five years $175 million that makes sense after trading ogan and Obi to acquire him want to keep him around uh and the other interesting piece out in the west the Warriors and Chris Paul have extended the date of his guaranteed dollars to Sunday so they have to either they can wave him outright on Sunday it had to it was originally Friday it’s been moved to Sunday according to ESPN’s Adrian wowski wowski wowski wowski wowski W according to W um so the Warriors by Sunday can either outright wave him for no money or they can trade him and his $30 million contract by Sunday so that’s why they extended it to Sunday to give themselves a couple extra days the deadline was initially today and it’s been moved to Sunday yes understood uh which means apparently they’re trying hard to acquire Paul George so shocking TBD on that but that’s again that’s just another you look at the Spurs you look at the Mavericks you look at uh I think the Grizzlies will be better next year look at the Rockets trying to acquire any big name they can possibly bring in and that’s that’s another reason I think it’s so frustrating watch watching the Kings go yeah Devin Carter Jaylen McDaniels and then wait and then hang out we’re good to go oh God uh don you’re on the Insiders Matt George K mson what’s up what’s up this is Fred PE you’re local serologist my man um so Matt I was wondering I was kind of surprised that davan was used in a smaller package deal like I thought he might uh be in a larger package to get maybe a like what you know the bigger Splash or as you would say were you surprised at all by that and for those guys that they signed on those two ways are any of those really intriguing to you do you like any of them to crack a spot in not necessarily the rotation from the start but make the team and maybe have a chance at some point of crack a rotation I’ll answer the first part of your question question thanks for sure because the I was surprised like I thought daveon because daveon had value and as a he’s on a rookie scale contract meaning at the end of this year his money is off the books but now you have his restricted rights so you can M you have options you have flexibility a young player so and he’s and he can offer a team we know what he can offer on the defensive end and offensively he’s shown growth consist really good in the second half of last year really really good so I’m I am surprised I because I really thought that he would be one of those guys that you could include in a Washington Wizards deal or a Brooklyn Nets deal to where they get a young player that has value and if it doesn’t work out he’s off their books like I just thought that made a lot of sense but in order to get a team any team to take on salary and help you free up salary you have to give them something in return to do that it’s not the Raptors doing the Kings a favor it’s hey give us something to make it worth our while to help free you up financially I do think giving up Davon Sasha in 2 seconds is a lot feels like a lot to open to go $7 million under the cap it’s a lot but nobody’s going to care if you use that money in that space properly but if you don’t or if all you do is add another rotational style piece then people are going to look around and go you couldn’t have just traded Davon straight up for that rotational you you why did you go this route right so I was surprised that Davon was included in this deal instead of a bigger package for more of a name that they’re looking for well that’s why that’s why it was so fascinating that W’s first tweet again was was just the kings are trading Davon Mitchell and Sasha venkov to the Raptors and so it was immediately like go to the Raptor roster man dve on and like that’s kind of not a lot but that’s not nothing right two rational players start going through and seeing who who it could possibly be then it’s oh it’s Jaylen McDaniels oh and the number 45 pick is going it’s like oh man that’s kind oh and and a second round pick next year Portland second round pick next year so conceivably an early second like man what which is why again going back to the salary dump aspect of this um it has to be a precursor it just has to be it has to be like you don’t that and give up that many assets unless you’re opening up money to make something happen there’s just no way super calculated very patient um waiting for the right time to strike front office led by Monty McNair is suddenly like yeah sure unless they love Jaylen McDaniels or something which would be fascinating maybe maybe fascinating he’s gonna he’s gonna fill the CLE Edwards roll to me he’s you he’s gonna have a moment or two in garbage time and you’re gonna go oh and he’s never gonna hit the floor again not if he shooting 16% from three point range yeah that’s what’s weird is just on on jayen McDaniel specifically he was 16.9% from from Beyond The Arc last year or last season but in 24 games with Philly the year before that he was at 40% uh and then with Charlotte before he moved on to Philly and in the 2223 season was at 32% he’s like a career 33% three point shooter 32.2 but that that got dropped a lot by 16.9 last year yeah so maybe being empowered maybe the kings are going to empower him to have a rotation spot and he’s going to be great but if he can play look here’s the thing with Mike Brown and again we’re going to stick specifically on Jaylen mcdel here for a second if you can play defense and you can guard effectively like one through four like I think Jaylen McDaniels can in his kind of peak version um they’re gonna find a way to get you on the court a little bit Yeah but that’s that’s where I think the kings are moving in a little bit of a different direction is because I don’t I think Monty and the and Mike are trying to get away from the guys that give you a lot on one end and marks on the other and that’s easier said than done because you’d love to have the perfect well-rounded player but Davon was look what he gives you on defense but offense is a question Sasha was look what he gives you on offense but defense is a question there are a number of guys Kevin herder look what he gives you as a shooter defense is a massive question mark right I think the kings are trying to get away from that and go and get more versatile guys who are consistently giving you something on both ends that’s why Devin Carter I think jumps off the page defensively you know what he gives you he can also rebound the the basketball and he shot 37% from three-point range last season so okay I see the fit on both ends of the ball that’s why Jaylen mcdonel to me doesn’t fit that mold he fits the mold of getting more Wing depth and getting another body out there so take a look at him and see what you have and you can use him as as kind of injury depth and and roster depth potentially but Kessler Edwards has been here for two seasons and has barely gotten any playing time and he’s considered one of the better Defenders on this team with Mike Brown is the head coach that’s a good point so that’s a good point I don’t know I I don’t there just has to be more right there just has to be more also the MS are potentially in onlay Thompson apparently I don’t know be my guest go for it I meant to mention that earlier nice nice little goose egg against the Sacramento that was tough to watch um yeah I I I I think just kind of wrapping this up and then we’ll move on to some some day two of the NBA draft I overall for me I like the position the Kings have put themselves in so so far get what what would you grade their off season so far uh probably a B+ yeah I’m there that’s that’s about where I’m at getting Malik back was ginormous yes and getting him to resign before the draft itself that’s Malik doing the kings of favor that’s ginormous no doubt and and resigning Mike I know it was bumpy but but getting Mike you got it done yeah you got it done so that that and itself is enough to like at worst you’re going to get a B it and then Devin Carter is not a bad pick he’s not a bad pick I think he’s going to be really good position is an interesting choice but the player is not a bad pick or at least from what we believe he’s going to be it’s not a bad pick but there’re still incomplete right to be determined yeah I think so far I think B+ is a good is a good place to be especially when you talk about freeing up cap space and the Devon Carter fit they’re really excited about that okay that’s great but man if this is the team right by the the first game of the season I will have a very different grade at that I mean that’s what I’m saying is you see the build right you can see the Mike then Malik then Carter then this trade you can see the build up to Tada but what is freaking Tada like what what is that final thing so help me God if it’s Dorian finny Smith and nothing else I’m going to lose my traded a first and something else been Chris dwarte for Dorian finny Smith I I do think Mike would love DFS though I think daily fantasy sports yeah yeah that too I think Mike Brown is probably a huge fantasy guy but um Mike Brown I think would love dorany Smith but I get what you’re saying if that’s the big move yeah that would be that would be fine underwhelming yeah but if that that has to be if they did that that would be like oh another piece of the build then what right like no but that might be what this offseason is that might be another piece of the build this year again see where you’re at and then the big swing still to come later I don’t know if King St dude I I know I cannot do tell you right now we got we gotta go here in a second I cannot do another king season of yeah hey you know what they won 48 50 games I even made the playoffs I cannot do another offseason of big swing time it’s big swing time radio listeners Kyle’s eyes are watering he’s stressed he’s stressed it might I’m just warning you it might happen loaded all my my big move takes it might happen it it really might happen mon if you’re listening he’s a patient boy I’m M for listening I don’t ask for a lot I think I’m a pretty good person for the most part you are don’t put me through this again uh well all right we have to go for real this time uh we’ll talk about day two of the NBA draft and uh we’ll have some good idea or bad idea coming up and of course the handoff uh Kenny carway DLo and Casey will be joining us at well that’s Matt George filling in for James ham I’m Kyle Madson we’ll be back with the second hour next on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader clear we’re clear clear NBA Guru Zach it hasn’t been fully reported but cakam was reportedly unwilling to resign with Sacramento which is why they were hesitant to make the deal with the assets that they would have needed to use in the deal multiple firsts plus probably Harrison and and Kevin in order to commit to a guy who is just going to be like a four to six month rental so yeah so that’s what I think is interesting so if Pascal SE yakum had the contract he just signed but signed it two years ago I think the Kings would have pulled the trigger 100% I think the Kings the the hesitancy with the Kings with seak because y’all need to understand when Toronto was in SA ramento that deal was on fire there were meetings happening in the king’s like front offices practice facilities there was rumors like Shams was all over it like that deal was on the goal line it was and then it fell apart all first and goal at the one first and goal at the one shut up Seattle uh it was it was right there and then it fell apart all of the sudden the only explanation for it falling apart and again this has been speculated about and kind of report and kind of not is that they they were far into this process and the Kings had a conversation with SE yak’s agent and it they were like n se’s not too interested in resigning with you and then all a sudden it goes from hot hot hot hot hot to dead that that only happens not because someone got cold feet that happens because the move you were gonna make no longer like you just lost the whole reason for making that move because he ain’t gonna stick around yep so and if the Kings made the playoffs and lost in the first round or second round and then lost Pascal seak this off season and now they have no Monte would have gotten Flay yeah destroyed yeah they would have had a little more money cap space but they would have not had any assets to trade and cap space in free agency in Sacramento is not typically Believe It or Not players like Malik monk just choosing to do the kings of favor and resign doesn’t really happen too often here so we shouldn’t rely on that to build a team yeah yeah especially just after how everything’s gone down the last two days monk resigning is just such a that was huge yeah that was very big shocking to me oh oops 374 of you you guys are the best yeah if uh you’re in YouTube If you could hit the thumbs up right below the video that’d be sick please thumb it up oh well what what’s wrong with that say what was wrong hour number two that’s Matt George filling in for James ham who is still on assignment down in Cabo I’m Kyle Madson great assignment tough tough way to go um we’re hanging out with you till noon then we’ll hand it off to DLo and KC want to remind everybody that we are giving away tickets to the California classic that is July 6 and 7th and July 9th we’re giving away three-day passes we’re giving away four of them at a time so you can enter to win four three-day passes to the California classic really great time Good Vibes it’s basketball with some NBA players some not NBA players but it is fun basketball no Stakes you just get to hang out and it’s like a basketball County Fair it’s kind of like you just kind of come together watch basketball a little bit in the summertime they have an outdoor concert I forget who it is uh and then the main like the main State Fair is Las Vegas summer league which if you’ve never gotten an opportunity to go to Las Vegas summer league it’s a good time it’s a basketball Festival you’ll run into random names out there and it’s it’s really cool uh it’s also God awful outside 120 de and you’re just melting onto the parking lot but the uh University of Las Vegas great facilities too right before I or right after right before right after I started the job that you and I used to both work at together um I went to Vegas and it was in August with with three people who had never been to Vegas before so they want to yeah and we were down at the end of the strip kind not on the Strip but kind of behind like MGM yep so we were a little we were a little ways down there but I said when we got there I said hey there is a tram that runs right back here that we can hop on and take down uh wherever we want to go yep we’re like we’re in Vegas we’re walking I was like do you know no we need to go get get the so sure enough first day we walk down and we’re going you know just doing the whole strip and we get down to like Caesars and somebody goes I don’t want to have to walk back like yeah duh duh you think this sucks so sure enough we go across to what is it the the link went across to the link got on the station there and everyone’s like wow we should have been doing this like yeah duh yes I told you I’ve been to Vegas on Polar Opposites I’ve been during summer league when it’s hotter than hell outside and then during the Super Bowl when it was cold and rainy and Vegas is not built for any kind of rain at all like there’s just no draining so there’s just water everywhere which was very different gross very different circumstances but Vegas is a good time I just don’t go outside good idea either if it’s hot or C just don’t go just stay inside lose all your money um hour two of the show let’s talk about day two of the draft Yeah a few observations one this is in the NFL draft it’s also in the NBA draft but in the NBA draft all we heard about with the 2024 class is how bad it is this is historically bad draft class nobody wants picks in this class oh what A bad year to have the number one pick oh it’s just so awful yet on day two of the draft every single pick it’s like love this fit love this guy oh love this fit for this team oh this guy’s gonna be a player like man what we’re at pick 60 we’ve done two whole rounds of this awful draft and we’re still still talking about how good of a fit this guy is my my favorite is a dream scenario we saw that a lot that’s what a dream scenario for San Antonio getting this kid that is maybe a g- leager I mean it’s just you can look you can like college prospects and like how they looked in college and be a fan of their game but let’s not act like this happens in the NFL draft too round seven oh this is a guy oh out of Western Michigan oh a huge fan of his like what that guy’s not gonna make a roster I just I also get the impression talking to like draft experts and draft analysts um that this is also it’s not the time to make your money but this is the time to like build your resume almost if you found that diamond in the rough I was high on this guy and nobody took him and he was a second round pick and he turned into the next yanis tumbo like that this this is like the time where it’s like I know these people and you don’t so let me tell you why these people are better and I I get it like that’s your job is to analyze these assets and these players but I’m also like it’s a second round pick the idea it’s like yeah great fit okay okay let’s relax uh second thing hated that the draft was two days same and the day two production was terrible awful and I think ESPN will fix that I don’t The Green Room in the ESPN Studios was weird cafeteria the like folding tables and F it did not it was a weird vibe nobody looked happy to be there no and I don’t want like I don’t care tell me about the prospects more and give me somebody who’s not Stephen A Smith or Bob Myers please or boob God somebody hire Bob Myers for God’s sakes get our guy into a front office and off the television oh God not a good no it was over it just wasn’t very good and I think it’s because ESPN didn’t know what they like they’ve never done it before right so what is this TV broadcast supposed to look like I’m guessing it’ll look a lot better next year the presentation will be better next year but this think this is a product of the way the NBA kind of does the draft and the timing of everything and I think this is a problem on day one as well because if you’re not dialed if you are not a on your phone or B locked in like it is an episode of Game of Thrones you’re going to be lost on like wait I thought the Spurs picked Rob Dillingham yeah look he’s in a Spurs hat he’s doing an interview in a Spurs hat but I have my I have on my phone here that he went to the Timberwolves yeah and kind of this and I think it takes out so they spend so much time on the broadcast a they didn’t have enough Runway because it was only one round and it just it flew right which is fine I don’t mind that but it just hauls ass where they don’t have the runway to talk about it and then they’re trying to fit trades in and you’re trying to keep track if you miss anything yeah you’re way behind you’re so far behind so you are because we were talking about this a little bit before before the show started you’re you’re uh you’re a big fan of the NFL draft and how the NFL draft does it so what do you think the NBA draft could take from the way NFL draft does it to clean it all up specifically you can change the dates of moratoriums and free agencies and who can do what when and when can this guy trade that pick and this team can trade this pick it just make it make June one or June 12 or whatever date you want sometime in the middle of June the date that hey pick can be traded MH you can officially move these picks um so when on draft night uh Hey the Spurs and Timberwolves have executed a trade for the number eight pick Rob Dillingham can go up and get his Timberwolves hat and goba Timberwolves draft right but aren’t a lot of these moves riant upon who’s going to be available and who’s going to be on the board at that particular time yeah but they do that in the NFL too sure so it’s just not as bad you give an option to teams who just want to move into different round of the draft or different area of the draft or move out of the draft completely and don’t have to wait until because the Kings couldn’t move 13 until draft night because of the Kevin herder T trade but on draft night they can trade 13 because technically they’re selecting a player for another team on that night sure and trading that player and that I know that that has something to do with it because in the NFL you don’t tie up picks on contingencies at the same rate that you do in the NBA right it happens way right way too much in the NL and if it is if it happens in the NFL it’s like hey here’s a fifth round pick unless this guy starts a playoff game for you and then it becomes a four sure like that that it’s that kind of it’s that kind of deal and it’s always future not really what’s happening now right so uh yeah I think the NBA needs to change its calendar around and make it so on draft night when the Spurs and Timberwolves decide to do this deal Adam Silver can come out and go uh we have a trade the Spurs have traded the number eight pick to Minnesota for X Y and Z uh with the eighth pick the Minnesota Timberwolves select Rob Dillinger and that’s just what it is it would just make it so much easier so I think the NBA needs to do that yeah because if you’re not like you said if you’re not on your phone and you’re not buried in your phone or you’re not dialed in on the television you’re G to be lost yeah and then you go online and it it’s like yeah the Spurs picked Rob Dilan but you know they didn’t I just I hate it I’m out yeah fix it I’ve never been a fan of to you you’re taking a picture in your draft moment in a of a team that you’re never ever going to play right yeah you got family putting on is Rob dillingham’s family putting on Spurs hats man for what everybody knows you’re never playing you’re going to Minnesota yeah I don’t like it I don’t like it one bit and then of course yesterday bronny James gets drafted by the Lakers in a stunner shocking nobody saw this coming he’s going to Australia call my bluff I would have dude call it I would have I dare you he’s gonna do it he’s gonna go don’t do it I’d have been like if I if the Kings had had the 45th pick if they I I’d have just done it just been like yep go actually not the king the kings that’s a bad example because I think that they could have used that pick for some else but if you were at 50 so Boston picked one before them didn’t they yes imagine Boston did it Boston’s like LOL we take bronnie we’ll take bronnie um and okay yeah you go play in Australia till your right see enjoy yeah what why not LeBron would have been so pissed I know it would have been great Cinema and maybe and then maybe you get the Lakers calling and being like hey we want to trade for bronnie so bronny was at his uh his draft party sound like Bill Simmons I wish he hadn’t said to Celtics true he’s at his draft party at home and they had a Lakers hat there for him because they knew this was gonna happen all along can you imagine if Boston did that or any other team did that and they’re like well we can’t give you this Lakers hat there’s just this awkward moment in the living room when everyone’s just like huh LeBron’s just breaking dishes in the back ah that would have been a great moment I it’s cool look here’s here’s the thing stripping the we got to go on a second but stripping the like disdain for the Lakers taking that away this is cool objectively very cool yeah I’m looking forward to talking about it more because I think it’s a really really cool deal all right uh we’ll we’ll talk about that we’ve got good idea or bad idea coming up as well that’s Matt Georg and Kyle Madson and Don I see on the line hanging there we will get to your calls as well right here on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader uh Hey from what I understand Boston Sports stock guys don’t do great in Sacramento you can also turn the show off at any time instead of instead of getting your your comment off you can just leave and we won’t miss you that’s okay of all the things anyone’s ever said to me that’s very tame thanks for the number though that’s very tame oh honor esteemed one thank you oh God’s sakes God’s sakes you don’t need to oh my God my Este oh my God how are you buddy I miss you brother this is ridiculous oh my God the best of the best it’s about time I’ve been bowed to you know my son doesn’t even respect me hey man I like the Hat the the Giants the Giants Sacramento based like hats have been very very clean I just can’t wear them out of principle I need to go get a river cat’s hat maybe that’ll be my next purchase now a Sacramento a hat I have a bunch already because they’re not going to say Sacramento on going to say a they just going to say a and I’m having a hard time with that yeah so caval caval whatever he did say that they will have a Jersy that pays homage to Sacramento or represents Sacramento in some way but I don’t know what that means my guess is the bridge either the bridge bridge bridge or a tree or a capital or something in the logo no no like they’re gonna have they’re gonna have a Jersy that somewhat represents Sacramento that they will wear like a city connect like a city Edition Jersey because they don’t have a city connect right now do they no God no they tried and the city said no of course they don’t even have Oakland doesn’t even have a mayor right now well that’s that’s true oh well well they technically do but she’s on way Charlie Charlie we’re doing escapism today we’re not doing all that I know I know it yo um we are more coherent on this radio station than one of our cand okay all right I mean guys Jesus that was rough it was on our station dude I couldn’t escape it well I could I I’m proud of you I’m happy for you if I had to go through it though see the problem for Matt is he has he has the he has 23 minutes of hard news that precedes him yeah we were we pitched it and now a sports we pitched it we’re like let us do a because we do a Toyota sports extra Sports show after every sporting event we’re like let us do a sport a postgame show for the the debate please let us do it like no AB absolutely not let’s look at the highlights of uh anyway so the a city connect jerseys I’m with you Ramsey I thought they were going to have a clean ass Oakland one alas alas yeah if you go Tower Bridge behind the that’d be cool yeah but I mean the the the rivercats already have like a super dope towerbridge baseball logo that I think is oh yeah no I dude the day those dropped I left the show and went to the the baseball that’s the one that’s the one I have it’s so like can you do better than thaty how you doing bud uh Charlie can you can you come over here and say uh uh oh medulla Oblada Mulla ablang perfect I don’t I don’t get the bit I don’t know somebody in the chatty house wants him to do that oh I don’t know I thought you might get it I don’t get it oh know what that is but yeah I don’t uh we have 10 seconds oh boy it’s good to see you good to see you man thanks for coming of course my pleasure thanks Charlie uh as always lot lots of discussion around the pick uh as a lottery pick you know uh that was weird now back to the Insiders brought to you You by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 that was disappointing for some reason my drop of uh who said that stupid ass questions oh oh Mike Malone got uh got dubbed over with Monty McNair I thought Monty was just spitting on the beat for just although question what Happ that’s just the truth do what happened to the K-pop what what is it still here is it still there yeah of course I miss there’s a K-pop one earlier we had uh I don’t repres I don’t recognize K-pop instrumental yeah we had shutdown by black yeah I was on there okay yeah we got we got a bunch in there it’s more K-pop than not I was wondering if James changed you a little bit no we got 4:00 A.M Bay Bridge music by Andre nicotina is one of them we got little red bone by Childish Gambino uh 93 to Infinity by Souls of Mischief obviously I’ll blow the whistle by two short you just heard maskoff by Future we have this song called uh big wild no I’m sorry it’s called city of Sound by the band big wild this is uh one of my personal favorites we have a couple Kendrick Lamar songs pray for me and don’t kill my vibe gota Like You by post Malone good song yeah and then a bunch of kop little BTS stray kids yeah we have R ball Rock uhuh I mean I am excited about this ring look this is my deal with that okay I know we’re all going to miss uh and Don we’ll get you in a second uh I know we’re all going to miss Inside the NBA in a couple years yeah but I think a lot of that will go away the first time round ball Rock drops on NBC I agree because this the the music is gonna be like nostalgic and and awesome but I just I I hope we still get the opportunity to have a show that gives us the YouTube rabbit hole of moments that Inside the NBA has given us to where I mean they’re timeless can go back and watch a compl compilation from the 90s through today of just sha and Kenny moments or something and it’s just it’s so comfortable it’s comforting to know that I have these guys to talk about whatever the hell and it’s gonna be incredible and I it’s just that losing that is almost like it’s crazy how you can become attached to a show as people do shows it’s crazy how you can come attached to something that’s so familiar and it just becomes a part of your every day and when it’s no longer there it just feels like there’s a void and I feel like there’s going to be a lot of that when Inside the NBA we know it goes away no doubt let’s get into good idea or bad idea three things going on in the world we decide if the thing that’s going on is a good idea or a bad idea number one the Lakers drafting Bonnie James number 55 overall good idea I think it’s great I think it’s an awesome idea I it checks multiple boxes right as the most historic NBA franchise I know you just got passed up by the Boston Celtics but the Lakers are the NBA franchise right you now are making history by having a father and son playing together for the first time the same way you had the griffy granted Ken griffy Jr probably a bigger star not probably definitely is a bigger star will do more for the game than bronnie probably ever will in the NBA but you’re facilitating this moment this this this awesome NBA history in doing that you’re also pleasing your your Superstar and LeBron James and it is your ultimate goal with as the Los Angeles Lakers to keep him happy until he rides off into the sunset Bro Look it’s the 55th pick yeah they didn’t use the 17th pick on bronny James yeah they used the 55th pick we just talked about the the second round and how there’s oh I love this fit for this player and you’re probably never going to hear from that player again maybe Brony James develops and becomes a contributor maybe he doesn’t yeah but he gets to play with his dad and that’s dope that is objectively cool the concept of nepotism and how it’s discussed is so interesting to me because to me nepotism I mean it exists in the NBA it exists in almost all circles of of business and and Athletics and things it just exists right and it is what it is nepotism is frustrating if someone gets a position that you feel like you’re qualified for when it directly affects you it’s amazing to me how many people are bothered by nepotism that has nothing to do with them sure and in this case it’s like I understand if there’s a if there’s a player out there that didn’t get drafted because Brony James got drafted okay then a boatload of them were signed to as exactly free agents when the draft ended and arguably sometimes that’s a better position to be in because you get to pick where you’re going in the case of Keon Ellis he chose the Sacramento Kings because they needed a player like him and look how it worked out for him right so I understand the nepotism I understand it’s lwh hanging fruit the frustrations people are goingon to get their jokes off and stuff like that and that’s fine I’m not telling you how to feel but it it always interests me m how much people care or are bothered by this when it really doesn’t have anything we’re getting a historic NBA moment and you’re having a father and son playing together on basketball’s biggest stage would it have happened if bronnie wasn’t LeBron’s father or son probably not but it’s happening now and it’s here and we can talk about it and get the moment and then move on with our lives there were three picks left yeah when he got drafted which I’m more mad about that I’m mad about taking away draft picks from teams to punish them because that ultimately affects players who don’t get to get their names called yeah no doubt all right number two uh let’s BL through these last two quickly uh pause Andrew Wiggins will not play for Team Canada a joint decision between him and the Warriors um good or bad idea to not play for your national team are we talking about because the Warriors are involved in this the Warriors and wigs it was a mutual decision it’s a health related decis I’ll say it’s a good idea for both it’s a good idea for the Warriors to keep Andrew Wiggins healthy it’s a good idea for Andrew Wiggins who needs to work to get back to some semblance of what he was to focus on getting right and getting back to action in the NBA not not that playing for your country is not a big important deal but look sorry Jordy you’re just gonna have to go without Andrew Wiggins and Canada they’ll be fine can Canada Team Canada is very talented they’re gonna be fine Dylan Brooks will be just fine yeah um I think the Warriors might be trying to trade him and they don’t want him to get hurt playing in the Olympics great idea for the Warriors in that sense yeah um but apparently Anthony Slater from the athletic reported was a mutual decision so I I guess in that case it’s a good it’s smart for it’s smart for Wiggins it’s smart just focus on getting right yeah uh number three Keegan Murray working with the US select team for the second consecutive year so he’s not on Team USA but he will be working out with Team USA along with a bunch of other young players who make up the select team good idea or bad idea for Keegan Murray to be spending his summer down in Vegas great idea there there’s no bad scenario to this I know there’s always the risk of oh you could get hurt but you get hurt in any workout yeah walking out your door it’s not like he’s sitting on his couch all summer he’s going to be working with the Aon or working with his coaches or working with whatever so this he’s getting work with some of the top young players in the league in the Team USA Basketball system he’s practicing and he’s gotten the opportunity already to practice with actual Team USA he won’t go with them to Paris but he’s worked with them over the last two years that he’s been a part of this it only gets him better he’s working with the brightest Minds in USA Basketball yeah if you want him to develop into the best that he can be I think this only helps it yeah no this is uh this is very very good for him I’m uh I’m right there with you shout out to Keegan Murray working with the US select men’s basketball team don you’re on the Insiders you’ll take us into the break what’s up hey good morning how you how you fellas doing doing great very good no Big E sorry scen got it wrong I get it H real quick I just wanted to personally apologize to you guys because in the first hour you were talking about how people would confuse you for each other and I was definitely one of those people but I’m like three years ago good bye biggy yeah no joke what what’s up oh but on wigin are either of you guys in on him in a trade or are him and Barnes just a Spider-Man meme pointing back at each other uh thanks for the call biggy appreciate it um yeah no I’m out we talked about this uh yesterday or the day before um there’s just not he makes a ton of money yeah and there’s not a there’s not the Warriors wouldn’t want what the Kings would be willing to give up for Andrew Wiggins and vice versa there’s better options out there yeah again these are like he makes more money than Kyle kma yeah he makes a lot of money so it doesn’t make sense for the Kings from that sense and also you have to remember to when when when talking trades and I talked about this a lot with the Brandon Ingram situation too Kyle Like These Are teams that are directly comp competing with each other right now they’re in the same tier in the west right these tiers this tier of teams that is on the cuss with the playoffs are trying to get back into the playoff picture and and I know the Warriors are hoping to still somehow contend under Steph Curry but like where they’re at right now the Kings Warriors Pelicans these are teams that are directly competing with one another in the same kind of tier of the West these teams aren’t typically going to be willing to work together to swap assets to help each other or hurt each other like they’re just they’re GNA avoid each other at all costs so yeah Ingram doesn’t make sense to me Wiggins doesn’t make sense to me I’m I’m out yeah no I think we’re uh we’re all on the same page there we’re also on the same page and we got to hit a break we will do that we will have the handoff next with uh I believe it’s Kenny caroway day Casey from DLo and Casey will be joining us uh I want to take a look at the king’s lineup right now if they had to play a game today uhhuh what would the starting lineup look like what would the rotation look like we’ll hash that out next that that’s Matt George I’m Kyle Madson Matt filling in for James on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader and clear clear is that Jessie yeah it is that’s a Jessie in there he has is off didn’t he wow uh no he has this up on the stream probably so it might just be a little delayed he’s not reacting to me which is fair boy uh what was I gonna say oh somebody asked if I was a straight kids fan yeah yeah yeah big fan wearing a straight kids t-shirt today I’m a stay Han bias what’s up I don’t know what any of that means that’s fine I’m getting more into ATS lately yeah no I don’t think he’s getting I no I don’t think Andrew wiggin’s getting getting getting delt to Sacramento like it’s dude here’s the here’s the thing if this was the Minnesota version of Andrew Wiggins if he was in year when did he come to the Warriors in year six six year five year six if it was that version of Andrew Wiggins where where like hey we there’s still some untapped potential maybe getting a change of scenery then then I think it’d be a different conversation sure because on paper he’s exactly the kind of player you’re looking for and if you knew for a fact he was traded mid near Six if you knew for a fact here here’s what I’ll say about this if the Kings had a crystal ball and said hey when he comes to Sacramento and plays for Mike Brown he’s going to look like the player he was in the finals and through the 2022 playoffs m uh because in the finals in the in the final three games that they that they won uh he averaged 20 and 13 yeah he was a beast he was incredible yeah so if you knew you were getting that and and he’s playing great defense on Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum um it was such a key factor for them uh if you knew you’re getting that player then okay let’s have a conversation but he hasn’t been that dude since so I’m just gonna out yeah because Mike Brown it’s Mike Brown though Mike Brown left Wiggins Talent left with him Mike Brown is a monstar wow we’re working things out come on now I’m gonna have to write this down not the monster thing uh Johnny G if I had uh the ability to uh ban you from the chatty house I would for that horrendous question how dare you dare it’s just disgusting it’s just disgusting how dare you like you just disrespectful what what’s OO share the oo I’m trying to figure out I really like that King’s painting that they have out there it just bother me bothers me that buddy heeld is so big in it oh did you not did you not uh listen to D and KC the other day when they were doing that no Kenny went and picked it up off the wall and was holding it up on the stream and they were sorting out like they’re going to do a new version who makes it doesn’t yeah yeah buddy he’s way too big and prominent like yeah pause that was uh that was one of the complaints yeah Rudy Gay I think you could make smaller because I’m okay with BBY I’m okay with we gotta get ran Holmes out of there where’s rwn bottom right corner in front of Jason Williams oh yeah I like that picture of ran though it’s a good picture of ran but why is domas so small why is domma so small and Buddy heal is huge well what no what I say here we go this is K-pop kinda now back to the Insiders brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 Matt George filling in for James ham today I’m Kyle Madson hanging out with you until noon then we’ll hand it off to DLo and Casey speaking of handing it off to DLo and KC believe we’ll be doing the handoff with KC coming up in about 15 minutes all right so here’s how we’re going to put a bow on the week been a big week for the Kings a lot of moves happening a lot of things not a lot of moves a few moves happening got some some uh draft pick and Devin Carter traded for Jaylen McDaniels um let’s put together a lineup right now things out to play a game today yep um so this is just and and I say playing a game today you and I are both under the assumption I think most people listening to this are under the assumption that the roster today is not what it’s going to look like in October it can’t it can’t it would be nutty AB um but if it does and this is this is I think I I can’t tell why I want to do this exercise I can’t tell if I want to do it to to just survey the landscape or to drive home the point that like yo this isn’t going to be enough right um so let’s talk about it so real quick are we are we talking about what we think the king’s rotation would be or what we would want the king’s rotation to be uh what we think it would look like so put ourselves in Mike Brown’s brain yeah yeah yeah because I want Malik monk to start but I don’t think Mike is gonna start I don’t think so either so that you’re doing a prediction you’re betting money on what it’s gonna look like understood with this roster okay uh Daren Fox yes duh Keon Ellis yes okay I’m with you Keegan yep Harrison Barn still at the four doas at the five correct cool we run it back same same we’re running it back perfect uh Malik monk first one Off the Bench first off the bench yep then TR Al probably okay Devin Carter next or Kevin herder next I’m gonna say Kevin herder specifically because he’s not a rookie okay but I do think there’s hesitancy with Mike always to to play Kevin and I don’t know how Kevin fits okay but I also think that you might have to go Kevin herder earlier to get some size on the court potentially because if you’re going Carter first and you’ve got like Fox Monk and Carter all at once I think you you’re giving up a lot of size at the three I do agree except Mike found a lot of success with three guard lineups at the end of last season so that’s something he might stick with but I understand what you’re saying I do I do have hesitancy and and belief of Kevin’s ability to play the three or play any role within the King’s new system period off the I’m with dude I I and that’s think he makes sense that’s where the hangup for me is right now Alex Len would then be getting some minutes I think so and right now like Jaylen McDaniels just doesn’t factor in for me no I don’t think he Jay’s out Chris Duarte is out yeah Kesler is still out I I think this is a Max ninan rotation and co uh Alex Lenn and uh Carter are probably some combination of eight matchup matchup based right um yeah I just I like Kevin her and I think he’s he can go to a team and help and I think he has trade value when I personally when I talk about trading Kevin herder it’s not like yeah just get rid of him no he’s got value yes 100% And there’s been reporting that like the Bulls uh think highly of him I can’t remember was it Amic somebody wrote in the athletic I I I don’t want to put a name on it because I can’t remember exactly who it was but wrote that like Kevin herder has value in front offices around the league absolutely like this is a guy people know can shoot we know he can rebound her is an elite shooter in a modern NBA that prioritizes shooting spot up shooter movement shooter he can shoot and he when he he when he gets cold he gets cold but when he’s hot he’s a flamethrower where he can shoot 50% from three for a month like he did that in Sacramento correct so he is an absolute flamethrower shooter he 100% has value and he’s on a super Team friendly contract for the next two years yeah Kevin herder has value you’re not just dumping him to get rid of him you’re holding on to finding a deal with decent value I’m just talking about Kevin herder’s fit towards where the Sacramento Kings are trying to go it does not make sense and we’ve been heading on that road to a breakup for the last year yeah man and that that’s that’s the I think more than anything I think basketball-wise you can find a fit if you absolutely had to have Kevin herder in your lineup I think you could start him and then I think you could mess around with with Keon Ellis and and dearn fox and and Devin Carter and fig F out enough ways to uh limit what he has to do defensively and and feel okay about it but I also don’t think that you want to mess with your entire rotation just to make sure that Kevin herder can get on the court for 20 minutes correct and what does his role look like if it’s a volume three-point shooter coming off the bench I’m interested but if you’re going to play him at the three he’s going to get targeted defensively the same way that he gets targeted every time he’s on the floor as soon as Kevin herder’s on the floor teams make it a priority to go right at him regardless of who he’s guarding that’s why we saw these guys that Kevin herder was being switched on being the primary offensive Focus to start games the kings were getting scored on by the third or fourth best player in the starting lineup repeatedly to open up games on a nightly basis because that’s the guy that Kevin herder was guarding yep and it’s not I mean here’s the thing about Kevin he works his ass off he does he’s a hard worker he doesn’t complain he puts his head down he is just not the same way I am incapable of doing the job on the basketball floor that these professional athletes I cannot do it I don’t think Kevin can defend at the NBA level to what the Sacramento Kings expect I just don’t think he has it in him to do it well I I I I don’t know if it’s beyond what maybe it’s short of what the Kings expect for sure but I think Kevin herder defensively is probably fine if you have an elite rim protector right if he’s on if he’s on the Timberwolves like here here’s a good ex here here’s a I think the Timberwolves are a perfect example because you plug him into Minnesota now he is a legit as we said three-point shooter one of the best Shooters in the league he is a legit three-point shooter and on defense when he gets beat you have the four time DPO behind him to to erase whatever whatever yeah yeah and now all of a sudden he’s this super Valuable Player for Minnesota right in fact I think Minnesota should trade for Kevin herder Anthony Edwards for Kevin herder should get it done personally I think that’s a deal that King should do um but here I’ll just kind of put a bow on this too like please when you when you are emphasizing defense the way that Mike Brown is and you’re trying to improve defensively if you continue to give Kevin herder playing time and again he’s an NBA caliber play he’s not the worst defender in the league he’s 100% an NBA caliber player that can help the Sacramento Kings 100% but the more you improve defensively and the more you get guys around Kevin herder to buy in defensively and live up to the expectations of Mike if Kevin’s not able to meet that as the team gets better defensively the weakness becomes more glaring and that’s what teams are going to continue to attack and go right after we saw that last season as the Kings defensively started to get better Keon was getting more playing time uh even Malik was doing some good things on the defensive and Malik got targeted from time to time too it wasn’t just Kevin but it was obvious blatantly obvious nightly to start the game The Scouting Report was find herder and go at him because sometimes Kevin could make a play he wasn’t just a revolving door but the majority of the time Kevin could not stay in front of the two and three go threes that he was defending and he just that’s the speed of the NBA he he just wasn’t able to keep up yeah I think um I think he gets moved for sure I think so too I think the writing has been on the wall and now and I guess this was the point of the exercise so you and I are are in agreement that he’s probably in the rotation but also hey here’s the other thing I don’t even know that he would take a Ben roll I don’t know that he would he would um what’s the word I’m looking for I don’t know that he would persevere through that because I I’m of the belief and I could be wrong I’m not inside the guy’s head but it sure seems like based on how last year went that Chris dwarte getting potential burn as a starter in the preseason just derailed Kevin herder for the entire year it rattled him for sure I don’t know that if the Kings look at what they have now and they go yeah Hey Kevin You’re Gonna Play what in the world uh my phone was vibrating I was trying to figure out what that noise was um they’re saying hey you’re gonna play 15 minutes a night off the bench You’re Gonna Play in in a few three minute spurts go out there and knock down some shot I don’t know that he would be able to yeah so that would be uh I I think when we when we kind of look at this rotation with with the starting five with Keon at the to uh Malik Monk Is your Sixth Man Trey L’s coming off the bench Deon Carter coming off the bench like again that glaring weakness is like man they need Wing depth yeah and whether it’s Harrison Barnes coming off the bench with a different starter at the four whether it’s Kyle kosma or whoever or it’s Dorian finy Smith or Cam Johnson in that Kevin herder spot where now they’re the wing dep coming off the bench preferably both of them yeah that’ be nice but I I think it’s just no matter how you package it it’s like dude they just they just need to they need size they need to ESP and and it goes even beyond the Kevin herder dilemma it goes to like you lost to one NBA team six times during technically the without play that’s crazy and it’s because of matchups like look the Pelicans could not beat the Los Angeles Lakers the Sacramento Kings swept the Los Angeles Lakers the Pelicans beat the ho you know what out of the Sacramento Kings six times and it has everything to do with wing depth and physicality now the Kings got significantly better playing physical basketball over the course of the year and dear Fox talked about this at his basketball camp that I was at a couple weeks ago and dearn brought up the officiating like officials kind of allowed them to play more physical the second half of the season and the Kings ended up thriving in that because remember early in the season the Kings had back-to-back games against the Houston Rockets dearon Fox didn’t play because he was out injured that had part uh that had something to do with it but the Rockets just muscled Sacramento in this that was tough to watch beat the crap and Sacramento was not ready or capable to play with that level of physicality that we saw at the end of the season the kings were not allowing themselves to get pushed around and in fact at the end of the season they were doing some of the pushing but a 6-2 dude can only push a 69ine guy so much sure and when the when when the kings are as bad as they were on the perimeter defensively when defending the three-point shot it was not for a lack of trying they were trying and working hard and scrambling scramble drill close out they were doing everything they possibly could but I’ve been hitting this this nail on the head over and over and over again to the point where it’s probably annoying at this point but it’s a lot easier to shoot over a six foot2 dude with a 65 wingspan than it is to shoot over a 68 dude with a seven foot wingspan it changes the way you shoot it’s Believe It or Not taller guy harder to shoot over get out of town so this is it’s not meant to be disrespectful for towards Davon or even Devin Carter I know he has a 68 almost 69ine wing span which is amazing it’s it’s he plays much bigger than 62 100% he does but the Kings need more guys that when you’re closing out on a shooter you don’t have to be all up in his business all the time but if you’re closing out on a scramble drill you can probably change their shot and affect their shot a little bit more a little bit because giving up 40 plus percent from three-point range every single night ain’t gonna cut it no and that’s what happened all season long that’s what kept the Kings from being a top 10 defense was that alone wait between um tall players are better than short players and good players are better than bad players which was my my take yesterday uh I don’t know why anybody would would need another program to be honest that’s true we’re just locked in pretty straight I do think that’s I do think that’s something that gets kind of lost though in the NBA with kind of the small ball Revolution or whatever where hey size in a sport for tall people still very much matters it matters a lot yeah so that’s got to be Priority One for sure but yeah the Kings just need more Wing depth period hey real quick I don’t want to drag this out Kenny caroway coming in for the handoff um I don’t want to drag this out you can’t say that you’re hitting the nail on the head you can say I’ve hammered this point but I can say pause uh I see but I can say Hey you hit that nail on the head so I can’t give myself the credit for like no you’re like I hav’t been hitting this nail on the head like no I’ve been I’ve been trying to drive this point home no but I I mean you did having tall players is better than not having tall players yeah know in-depth basketball ation Kenny buckle up I couldn’t log into that computer so when you host a solo podcast and you talk to yourself you have to tell yourself you’re doing a good job no you are no you’re doing great no you’re doing great but I see what you mean um it’s fun to talk to somebody this is pretty cool yeah friends are no for sure shout out uh James brought up a good point with uh with the trade that we did not talk about uh it allows them to use the full non- taxpayer mle which is 12.9 million right so that’s exactly what the uh the Mavericks did by trading Tim Hardway Jr right and now the Kings have that added flexibility yep as well flexibility that’s word of the day man it’s options Monty’s got options he can he can absorb a bigger contract and a trade if you wants to or he can use the MLA to go out and get a a free agent I I like time for the handoff Kenny carway in I like that I like having the flexibility I like all that that’s what he’s been preaching for since he got to Sacramento it’s been his word literally his word absolutely this is the last summer to happen it’s time to cash in on all that I don’t I if we’re here next year and you know may the playoffs and all this other stuff you know we want to we want to maintain our finance no bro it’s going it’s going all bad we’re still trying to maintain our financial flexibility this is the oh man there’s a chance though here’s my only here’s my only way th those are yours by the way those that’s all you um so the only way that I’m cool with with this is if they’re looking out at next year and where certain teams are going to be and there’s a player out there that they think their current War chest of assets it’s all NBA caliber player and they’re like hey we really think that next year these assets we can go get this player so they don’t want to give up a first or even two for Kyle kma right now because they think okay he’s a he’s a tier three player uh but we think there’s a tier one we can go get and that and that’s fair and that but but to your point up until next June like what do we got yeah you you gotta you gotta win first of all you gotta get I don’t really care how it gets done but if if they had some deals that didn’t work out or they got got too rich right or they didn’t have the assets right like I I I draw the line at Keegan Murray right like if New Orleans is asking for Keegan if Washington is asking for Keegan and all this other stuff yeah you got to draw the line there but anything outs anything outside of those four that we talk about like I’m not I’m not worried about future contracts I’m not worried about you know being on the first apron none of that this is this is it this is the time I feel this is the time to cash in on the flexibility that you have maintained for the last three years but you you I mean I maybe I’m wrong but you can’t just be having Financial flexibility Forever at some point you got to have some players that you’re like all right we’re locked into to these guys and this is what we’re trying to do well through Monty’s own words too like the whole reason he wants flexibility is to be able to move when the time is right I mean those are the word like when he came to Sacramento he did not bring or adopt the Sacramento mindset which is oh this player is available oh but we’re the king so we have no shot so we’re not even going to try like Monty came in with the belief that we’re going to put ourselves in a position to where if some move becomes available to us we’ll pursue it and we’ll explore it and I think he’s been consistent with that from the Zack LaVine situation right Zack LaVine doesn’t really necessarily make sense in a lot of ways financially or otherwise but here’s a player who was is a star caliber player who might be available on the cheap because of circumstances okay we F we’ve maintained flexibility to put ourselves in a position to consider the this is an option but like you said you can only do that for so long at some point you have to strike right and I still think like I still think this king’s team believes that they are in a position to where they can play the long game and I don’t mean that’s a the right way to handle it but they might look at this offseason and go we can get away right now with just a cam Johnson move or a Dorian finy Smith move which would help improve the team but is not gonna cap them out on assets and money and go let’s see where this goes and then see what comes available at the trade deadline my reaction to that is you’ve had two trade deadlines you didn’t do anything so why should we trust that the third one you’re going to do it and I think a lot of fans kind of echo that but I think what Monty wants to avoid is going all in now when you’re still a long ways away from truly contending go all in now you’re stuck and now you have to probably move Keegan or move one of fox and sabonis just to get something different like that’s if in in the case of Zack LaVine this is why I’m super hesitant on Zack LaVine you go for LaVine you bring him in I think it could be exciting maybe it could work if it doesn’t nobody’s taking Zack lavine’s contract you’re stuck with it for the next three years so now in order to financially get out from under that to have flexibility to make some moves Keegan’s probably the guy you have to move in order to do that and I don’t think Monty and the Kings feel that they’re in the right spot now to go all in and run that risk without feeling that they’re in the same position the Knicks are in one piece away from truly contending I I’ll real quick K I’ll put it to you and everybody else like this though if if you’re in a like I’m looking at the timeline and and people might get upset for me saying this or feeling this way or whatever and they may have different expectations the the the the must is the playoffs like you have to be there that’s it those are mon words be there you have to be in playoffs into your looking forward point three straight years of the playoffs and maybe like a series win here and there and everything else like that I actually think that’s fine and the only reason I say three years is because that’s when lavine’s money will come off sure sure so I like three years You’ maybe gotten to the second round twice it’s not going to work with line he off the books you ain’t got to move Keegan you you don’t have to move him now now you’re looking at it like all right free agent wise we got money’s coming off the books who’s going to elevate us to a championship I think three years from now two to three years from now that’s when they should be looking at what do we need to do to get to a championship sure I feel that two to three years the only hesit Championship level now we’re talking about sabonis and Foxy in their 30s or getting to their 30s that’s the only hesitancy that but I hear exactly what you’re saying and I don’t think like V VC was upset that they miss the playoffs after making it one year I think the Kings would be thrilled and Kings fans would be thrilled with knowing they have a perennial playoff team start there but Mike and dear they’re all the ones talking Championship so if that’s the bar they’re holding themselves to well and that’s why that’s why I think that there’s a middle ground Jaylen McDaniels is not gonna cut it God bless him sorry Jaylen McDaniel is not gonna cut it but I also don’t think it needs to be Zack LaVine Brandon Ingram Kyle kzo because we’re just running through this starting five right now Fox Keon Murray Barnes domas yeah yeah uh monk Off the Bench ly’s Off the Bench Carter Off the Bench and then herder Len TBD right if you take out Kevin herder from that and you plug in cam Johnson or Dorian vny Smith and you can even plug them into the starting lineup for you if you want and bring Harrison Barnes Off the Bench now you’re ve you’re there that to me is a playoff team for sure for sure but but right now when you just it’s like dude they are they are like one quality rotation player short for for me from just being a yep that’s a top six team so that’s why I I I kind of land in the space of I’m with you if there’s a big move to make if the Clippers are like yeah we’ll trade you Paul George we love your assets uh here you go here’s Paul George then great then then go for it now you’re all in right but I don’t think it necessarily has to be to get to that playoff level if you’re talking about Championship contention in two to three years then okay then then yeah hold on to the assets if if Washington wants a couple of first go get Dorian finny Smith and cam Johnson instead and be cool with it you need a I I I hear everything you’re saying I think I just think at the end of the day it doesn’t matter if it’s kosma cam Johnson uh finny Smith is a little borderline but I D Smith well no no I like him but to my what I’m about to say is my point is sure sure sure you have to get a starter you have to get a starter a guy that is starting on every single team in the league and that’s why I say fny Smith who I like I don’t know if he fits the category of fitting starting on every single team in the league I think cam Johnson it does fit that category and I think that’s that’s that’s what you need for this roster yeah I think if you can get them both start one have another one your wing dep is so much better now you’re I’m into that more than I’m into kzo not Li is a fantastic compromise because you talk about a middle ground okay let’s go out and add something to the starting lineup but don’t you don’t have to swing all in yeah yeah I love cam Johnson and and like you just said if you can get Cam and and Finny Smith now you cooking yeah I think I like that more than kma too because and you know I love kma that’s my number one but I mean that just you’re just adding to the roster being able to get those to and so much of last year was you would watch the Kings play and Anthony Slater brought this up the other day you’d watch them play and toward the end of the season it’s like man they just need more dudes like God they just they’re not enough guys you you trust on this team or Jord goes to Brooklyn is about to lose all dudes damn sorry Jordy well JJ gets LeBron so that’s fair and bronnie yeah what what do you guys are coming up on d uh man a lot of lot more King stuff I don’t know if you guys got into the Jake fiser stuff but there was there was something in his article that really stuck out to me we probably G to dissect that a little bit and we’re gonna figure out what’s going on with Monty now after he had trade Davey on let’s do it can wait I’ll be joining you guys at 12:15 that’s Kenny carway he’s Matt George Matt thank you so much for hanging out pleasure 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himself he is the Kenny carway yes sir acknowledge me and we are with you for the next four hours K Manon will be back with us coming up in about 15 minutes and then we’ll will be staring at our phones again oh man I got haven’t stopped yeah I got I got Kenny to laugh uh as we were handling some some work on my way into the studio uh I got a a text uh from a very trusted Source um who was helped dowlo and Casey throughout the years and we had been communicating yesterday and I thought I’m on my way in and I’m like right at the turn to get to to to the Odyssey building right to get off of Eureka and and the name pops up and I’m oh oh hey hey what is click the button and the text reads and I don’t think uh this person will have an issue with me sharing this with you the tech read the te text reads for btim crickets come on man come on all right we’ll see you guys on Monday look I I appreci I appreciate our guy getting back to you but he could just left you on red for that one well at least I know at least I know they’re thinking about us that’s true but no that was that was tough because I’m thinking I’m thinking all right we’re about 30 minutes before the show we okay what is this do we tweet it like all of this is running through my head in the span of like five seconds do I tweet it do what is what is it crickets all right say LOL do your little show that now that would have been a better text like hey do your stupid show pal because you don’t bother me during this whole thing yeah but uh Friday we got we got Bon Hills sending us tweets shout out Bon um yeah man there’s and then and then I saw uh I guess they they push back to Chris Paul I don’t really I still don’t know what that means like I I still still unclear someone explain this to me like I’m an idiot Drew Down call in like where uh where’s where’s where’s Rory I was going to text Anthony Slater but the way ant-man’s been working the last few days like he might not get back to me till Sunday um I ass I assume it means they’ve pushed the guaranteed date back in hopes of a trade the dumb part is Chris has to push it back right Chris is the one who has to push it back so no no let’s do this let’s do let’s work through this they push the date back if they didn’t push the date back let’s just for argument sake say it was today it I think it was today it is today yeah so if they didn’t push it back it would either be the Warriors have him guaranteed or last night they would be able to cut him he would not get 30 million correct so if they push it back and he’s traded to the Clippers for instance the Clippers would be on the hook for 30 or have the same option as the Warriors so that’s what I thought it was is they’re pushing the date back which just does this doesn’t even seem legal to me you change the date you say hey we’re trading a $30 million contract team X takes Chris Paul hey Chris you’re cut yeah and in the end depending on the team that you’re going to they get a big salary dump or in in and and that’s where that’s where if you if you go with um you know these these different scenario like if it’s someone who’s trying to compete well there is no scenario where someone’s who’s trying to compete takes chis PA no no and the other thing that and you’ve said and I don’t know if you can cut him and re I don’t know dude I I don’t understand and you’ve said it a number of times what is in it for Chris Paul that’s if I’m Chris Paul and I’m just like yo uh I’mma call you Bluff I’m going to make you cut me or I’m not gonna get in the 30 minutes I’m not gonna like do this song and dance where I might get traded and then the other team might cut me unless unless the only thing I could think of is they go they find a team that’s willing to guarantee the 30 million if if if they told Chris Paul they said look Chris we’re going to cut you you’re not going to get the 30 million if you extend this deadline by a couple of days we will we will try to work out a trade for somebody that will keep you on the roster that’s the only thing that would so I because like if if he’s faced with the prospect of they’re gonna cut him like you might as well extend and see if they can help you out in my apologies to everyone listening because clearly we’re idiots and we can’t figure this out because I’m I’m I’m reading I’m reading W is this WJ no I’m sorry this is this is Kendra’s write up on uh W’s report here’s what it says for bet the Golden State Warriors uh and Chris Paul intend to move the date uh to guarantee the $30 million on his 2425 contract to the start of free agency on Sunday the deadline to lock in Paul’s contract was originally today but this gives the Warriors a small window of time to keep exploring possible trades there is still a possibility that the Golden State Warriors ultimately will wave Paul this is where I get confused giving the team mjor cap cap relief but sources says ESPN that the Warriors wanted to help ensure Paul had a good Landing place on another team if they can find the right deal okay Paul’s contract would have to be included in any big trade for an All-Star caliber player okay so let’s let’s work with another hypothetical if his contract becomes guaranteed today I if his contract has to be included what would it matter if it was guaranteed to it it seems like all that’s happening is the the Warriors have a buffer to cut him so and this is that’s greater than today what what I what I’ve come to the conclusion of maybe and tell me if this makes sense is the war and the thing that I just laid out the the scenario I just laid out the Warriors went to Chris Paul said we’re going to cut you you’re not getting $30 million from us if you extend this deadline we will try to find a team that won’t cut you and you can keep the $30 million but if you say no you’re not going to extend fine we’ll just cut you and you’re not you’re not getting $30 million from anybody that’s the only thing that makes sense for both sides so thank you to Matthews mattress Sky River Casino West Coast Car Audio in the in in the in the advertisers that spend roughly a million dollars annually to advertise on this show because we have to have Drew Down explain to us what this means Drew walk us through this like we’re as stupid as we sound right now all right I’m GNA try to explain it I think the the easier way of looking at his contract is almost like a team option I think it’s easier if you look at a team options basically the date was today so if I there’s no way they were going to guarantee his 30 million today without having a trade in place now why would Chris Paul agree to extend the date a couple days because like Kenny was saying if they didn’t have a trade in place by today nobody Chris Paul’s not going to get 30 million a year from any team so it’s in his best interest to say hey take a couple days see if you can work out a trade because that way that guarantees him 30 million for for next year and now I don’t think that Chris Paul would agree to extend the date and have the Warriors trade him without the option being guaranteed I don’t think that’s an option my thing is Chris Paul is saying take a couple days that way you know work out a trade so I can get that 30 million now I can see a scenario where that that trade happens and possibly a team buys him out and he still gets a large chunk of money and could possibly end up going to another team and you know for the Warriors sake you know like I said they’re not going to guarantee him that that 30 million yeah without without having a trade in place so by extending the date that gives them a few extra days to try to work out a trade like I said I don’t know they’re going big big fish you know looking for you know they’re going big game hunting so there you know that’s why they both agreed it’s in both of their best interest because without paulse 30 million in the trade you know they do have some other contracts but they’re not going to be able to get to that next level you know of tier of salary of high players so it’s in both of their best interest you know for them to extend the date and have some time to work it out so that’s why it’s you know that’s why for Chris Paul you know he I think for him at at his age you know he’s not like I said he’s not getting 30 million from any team or anything even close to that right so that’s why for him like why would he help out the Warriors you know it’s not just he’s helping out the Warriors He’s also helping himself possibly you know secur a bag and like I said I think that there’s also depending on the the team they make the move to if it’s for Paul George like I said I don’t know that to me it it seems like there’s got to be obviously more there’s gota be more in the trade right why would they just want Chris Paul there’s got to be picks and stuff whether it’s that or if it’s an I could see a scenario possibly where he’s moved to a team that maybe doesn’t want to keep him they get a draft pick and maybe they negotiate a buy out and he still gets a large chunk of money and can hit the free agent market so it’s really about the 30 million I think that’s what you know whether it’s a trade or Chris for you know for the Warriors it’s using that in the trade and for Chris Paul his incentive is you know guaranteeing him that chunk of money because he’s obviously not getting that on the open market so I think what what it really comes down to for sure appreciate you Dre and that’s and that’s kind of the conclusion we had just came to is the the Warriors The Warriors would say we’re not paying you this right you’re not getting this money so help us out and let’s find out a way for you and and like but there’s one question that I don’t think has been answered and I think I think Drew kind of mentioned it there at the end why would any team do this so which meaning it the whatever the they’re trying like like Paul George for example like why would the Clippers do this they’d have to send something back other than Chris Paul to incentivize the clippers but this is the thing the Warriors May be working on maybe a three teamer May I’m just throwing out a team maybe you get the Wizards involved you buy out Chris Paul you don’t have that to Sacramento I got you you four team deal there we go four team deal but that uh Drew Down brings up a good point and that’s what I was thinking too it’s not necessarily just the 30 million but maybe he can get a a high buyout wherever he’s at because what is I mean I don’t want to disrespect the Hall of Famer but what is Chris Paul getting as just a a random free agent um is he getting the midlevel I think he can absolutely I think he can get the midlevel 14 mil but but here’s the thing though here’s the thing like a buyout for Chris Paul is probably gonna cost you 25 to $30 million well not the whole thing right not the whole $30 million abut no but I’m saying like as as an agreement like if if Paul’s like I’m only getting I’m only going to get 14 on the open market and the and the Wizards are like man we’ll buy you out for 20 like I think Chris Paul might take that but get get the 20 yeah and and and so and that’s yeah he’d get he’d get he’d get the 20 and then my guess is then he’d take the mid level of the 10 or whatever like he’d get to 30 somehow this year um it’s one of the the interesting subplots there we go uh going on over the course of the next couple of days and and and as as read there from ESPN the date has been extended to the start of free agency uh on Sunday um there’s things to watch here over the next next 24 hours with Paul George D’Angelo Russell uh Lebron James I think we all feel like we know what LeBron James is going to do given uh the news last night but there is multiple ways for it to occur now there’s Bryce watch going on in Los Angeles so uh we’ll dive into all of that we’re so happy you’re here with us Kyle matson’s gonna join us Friday Vibes is steo and KC here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 damn I was going to go into the chat as a random person but I I need uh it’s Matt George did you get are you are you like gu you’re not even you’re that’s what I thought yeah just a guest yeah I was I was looking at it I was like this looks weird why does this look so weird and that’s why because you’re a rando yeah let me try that Kyle Madson came through the clutch what kind of donnut is this KC a circle maybe he hates us I don’t want to go on and talk power with you [ __ ] yeah well I’m glad I’m not caught up I’ll uh I was trying to watch last night but I started to fall asleep now I don’t know what the hell’s going on just shoot there’s Cary Manson Let just let just do KC you think it will take a big package pause to get Cam Johnson uh Ley first of all sir he keep that thing on him so well he do that he do that uh Second of all no I don’t think so but there’s probably a lot of competitive offers if the Nets are actually weighing that there’s probably a lot of competitive offers you would thank Shan but talk to his new head coach who might say hey help my guys in Sacramento out but what do I know Weezy said there was lots of package talk on the Insiders today yeah we said package too many times what happens you’re get cold okay oh son of a come on you know when you like hit the text thread and it goes all the way up to the top or something like that tribal Chief said he’s taking the the eagle guys to the Giants d rers tomorrow that’s nice of him I like the Giants uh 689 I got an invite 856 I’m the only one uh shout out to Z did you really yeah shout out oh he’s confused by your hat this is true I hope they don’t play the braids today I know they put it doctress you just said that big serious but uh it is well sure USB the Landon Knack That’s My Boy Logan web though that’s my boy Logan web shout out to shout out to Dodgers Kyle by the way Kyle I mean I know he’s got to do some work or whatever but he knows more about the Dodgers than maybe uh I was gonna say Vince Scully but yeah um what was I was about to say something else though I can’t remember uh Dodgers Eagle um invite the ro oh no no no shout out to Zay because he did a great job the the little intricacies of that intro he did a great job of matching up the personalities with the intro yeah th% that was phenomenal like when he had especially after the conversation we had when he had Aaron and Aaron just yeah yeah yeah well it said with Aon and can you move the screen oh man I think Field Day might be working in our favor next week too the way things are moving I’m not saying anything about field day I don’t want any problems all all I said was whoever is bitching and complaining about it is fine we’re doing two [ __ ] shows next week it’s already in my brain right now that we’re doing two shows next done deal yeah don’t don’t don’t don’t do that oh Ryan looks good today that’s a good look right there I thought you said Paul Ryan and oh boy that was going to be crazy no that was no that’s my man Ryan RC RC looking good it’s not it’s not my bag at all I’m not trying to disrespect anybody I don’t know these guys fighting and this is supposed to be a big a big UFC fight I I don’t I never heard out of touch never heard of these guys the hell is the pfl P the P what the P well the pfl is their version of it’s the it’s like the it’s another it’s another League um MMA League oh it oh is is it a is it affiliated with you is it like the it’s not no it’s like the pocket fer it’s like the XFL do you take anything seriously at all oh God no Kyle Matson to the Insiders back with us I should have told you before the show oh wait people heard that well I know I should have told you you were with us earlier this week you’ve had a long week if you wanted to bail today you could have it’s too late you’re here so you go to you got to stay with us now hey by the way know that my intentions were right no for sure you’ve had a week I got a question I’m vibing love it been thinking about this all night shout out to Jesse by the way do I have a black job that’s a good question um that’s a good question I was really just waiting for someone to say the black last night I I just felt like we were we were right on a cusp of the blacks reference but you don’t have to laugh it’s okay I understand this might be awkward Kyle I have I have some thoughts well I oh I didn’t I didn’t watch the debate I I saw enough on social media I guess boy I’m not gonna say what I have to say on the boy that was I’ll tell I’ll tell you guys that was tough yeah it was all bad hey I’ve been doing escapism today shout out to President Biden who looked a lot more alert this afternoon it just might have been too late for him I saw him at his rally he he looked like Lil JN out there like he was he was turned I like well all right hey somebody go ask Aaron if this is a black job so we could can I find out for sure no somebody really asked karon that’s is Kim hey he would hey he would go he would go what is that yeah is we’ll ask Kimberly like Kim’s in a bad mood maybe that’ll make her laugh she’s not over there we’ll ask himim when she comes back if these are black jobs she’s wearing a great shirt today she should be seen on camera um I told her she looked stunning I I thought I thought that was appropriate she just looked at you yeah like she wanted me to get the hell away from her not that that’s terribly different than most days normal yeah it’s pretty normal um but had a little extra it had a little extra get out of my face to it oh like it was real not yeah like I’ll I will throw this stapler at you if you don’t keep moving sure Daman said okay I will see you later s says y’all need to leave Michigan Wolverines alone man y get oh man come on man said Biden makes Michigan Wolverines look young this is crazy hey the real talk though is everybody in the chatty house uh Michigan wver ring probably beat your ass hey mi Michigan Michigan is he look like he gonna be on UFC 303 Michigan look like he run a 4240 right now can I hey do you know the other thing Michigan does he does this a lot where he like extend because he wants know well you know the sleeves are up here too got medum and this is not if I was if I exercised at the at that rate I’m trying to uh uh it’s hard to talk on this show h no I know you I’ll just go for it I’ll just dive in get the flag ready if my body looked like that oh that was that’s not bad okay good uh we’ll let the official decide no it’s easy perfect uh I would 100% be in a medium shirt and extending my arms as often as possible everybody can see yeah man good luck shout out Michigan Wolverines and he likes a great College he what he likes a great College uh okay the national don’t don’t you can’t even say nothing because we are the national champions congrats we are your tribal Chief College a little too much you tone it down a little bit there and we’re going back to back oh look and I’m gonna be like Tatum you know what we’re gonna do it again he Tatum did not do that don’t don’t do that he that when you retweeted the words um when uh Tatum saw Brony got drafted he woke up Deuce like get out mom like that was hilarious that was that was hilarious you know I know it’s I know it’s cheesy but the meme that did make me laugh was LeBron James is sleeping with his teammate’s mom I thought that was funny Savannah reposted one of them on her Instagram did I had to um like I had to see that like twice yeah before I was like well someone someone saw it on my story was like is this real yeah yeah hone it’s absolutely real he is in fact sleeping with his teammate’s wife and then seconds pass by and you see oh the light bulb goes off but while while we’re here by the way while we’re here I was I I don’t I don’t know what it is I don’t know if I’m triggered or what I don’t know why I would be triggered or whatever maybe I’m disappointed I sent you a text it’s nothing important go ahead maybe maybe I’m frustrated with sports society and all this other I I don’t know what it is but I’m a little perturbed by people being upset by this I think this is a and LeBron are you speaking specifically about bman Jones I saw bman I was dis not specifically but I saw that and I was disappointed bman went so like it was like man it feels like this is personal like why are you wild but just everything you know the nepotism takes jokes whatever the case may be I just this is this is such a dope moment to me it’s I mean I don’t know if it’s a a father and son thing but you know I think about I’m not in the NBA but if I was in the NBA man I wish I could play pickup with my son like play Sunday in West Sack with my son let alone in the NBA this is a this is a awesome moment it’s a historic moment and regardless of what people think I believe and I’m of the belief bronnie earned this moment bronnie isn’t no scrub he’s not a bad basketball player he did not work on his game he did not push himself to get to this point where he could be drafted um he deserves this and it’s just a great happy moment for LeBron man and I I was just and yeah that yeah for sure but I I was just like I was like man everybody that had talked about the nepotism and all that I just think it’s it’s so whack I just think it’s really really whack man there are so many instances of this in sports where but it’s typically at like the coaching level or level in the front office level or whatever it is hi Stephen Jones yeah he got three of them in there did you see that did you see Charlotte runs like the whole the whole stadium thing yeah did you somebody tweeted that out there’s like four Joneses in the front office gez but I mean this happen it’s like you said it’s not like bronnie went to some random niia school and they drafted him after a year he went to USC uh did he come out a year early yeah probably but they took him 50 yeah his heart stopped too there’s that right and they took him 55th they didn’t draft him 17th there were three picks left if they didn’t draft him 55 they were going to sign him as an undrafted free agent so I don’t all of a sudden we have to protect the sanctity of a late second round pick now it’s just people’s hate for LeBron like Rich Paul Rich Paul’s the most has grown to be one of the most if not the most powerful agent in the NBA yeah and they hate Rich Paul because LeBron got helped him get that opportunity and Rich and this is the stuff people like ignore like rich took all of the you can’t just be an NBA agent yes you don’t the amount of hurdles you have to clear to be an NBA agent are extraordinary you have to be like certified I can’t just be an agent tomorrow right exactly you go hey I’m just I’m going to represent a player today that’s not how it works like you have to be approved by so many different people and there’s so many things that you have to pass and they hate LeBron for giving Rich Paul that opportunity because he disrupted the system nobody said anything and I don’t I’m I’m not trying to hate on this young man I I forgot his name but Chris Collins were son’s not good uh Jack thank you he’s not good nope but he has one of the biggest jobs in the NFL because of who his dad is now the flip side to that is Noah’s very good but he got his opportunity because of who his dad is you like let’s not pretend nepotism you talk about nepotism in sports nepotism in life is not new and I know some of y’all won’t like this but boy it really agitates people when nepotism is on the black side versus the white side now I’m not trying to go Stephen A because Stephen A went pretty hard like seven straight minutes this morning morning on this Ste A Smith did yeah stunning right um but just if if you’re upset salute just be upset about everything don’t be a LeBron James hater that’s that’s all it is and then you you got I seen uh in the Matthews mattress uh chatty house a guy like the other James uh saying yo casc if Ronnie earned this why did the best player on USC go and drafted it’s literally nepotism so let’s break this down just a little bit because I watch USC I watch I like the other James avat uh Avatar thing by the way yeah that’s that’s that’s good but let’s let’s break this thing down just a little bit so and and let’s Boogie Ellis who signed a summer league deal with the Kings I like him I like him Boogie Ellis was a 20 I’ll just take a guess I could be wrong you could fact check it but I’m going say 22y old senior on a garbage USC team who is quote unquote the best player on the team 23 years old almost 24 he probably shouldn’t be drafted like to be honest like if we’re going by CU there’s people who will won’t draft a 22y old because the 18y old has upside unless shman McNair of course well he that’s why that’s why boogies with the King go and and and we always got to have a boogie on our team but I USC was a major disappointment a terrible team and it’s arguable that Boogie was the best player Isaiah paer was the guy he was supposed to go number one he was also on that team so like when you talk about why the best player on USC went undrafted it’s because USC sucked the guy’s damn near 30 and that’s why that’s why he didn’t get drafted not because uh LeBron James is is crazy not because LeBron James is Bron’s uh dad like stop man like we talking about stuff that we don’t know that we you half the people three quarters of the people won the second round the other James and other people don’t even know who the hell they are they probably are borderline NBA players just like bronnie but when it come to bronnie it’s nepotism stop man well shout out to dude drown Drew Down who’s always willing to poke fun at his team he said I’m proud the Warriors have zero nepotism in their front office great that’s a really great Point what what’s his name uh the entire Lake up family is in the front office assistant GM or something like that D le yeah isn’t isn’t Lup son though isn’t he yes off that’s right Kirk that’s right by the way uh Drew down also just can I just point out jeie bus is the owner of the Los Angeles Lakers point just I’m just pointing gu just hey with two other brothers not Brothers lingering around not black jobs not black jobs not black jobs not black jobs at all so and and like you know Drew down just wanted to know look I’m happy that I’m able to be in the position no one to have my family here with the Cowboys because I just want them to win so bad and we’re gonna do everything that we can I like what I’ve seen from Trey Lance this summer and Dak I I love him like a son and Micah he’s gonna do what he can to bring home a Super Bowl because I want to win just so bad why don’t you ever fade him when he does that honestly when he does the Impressions I’m thinking of like would be great to like have on like Jing expand no yeah that’s all I do when he does the Impressions hey speaking of uh maybe Doc Rivers could weigh in oh good that’s great Austin Rivers that’s a good point we have to deal with this we have to deal this in our in our house you know people look at Austin even though he was the the number one high school player in the country but but they they would say it was nepotism they say he get a new contract and it’s because I was his dad and you know guys it just wasn’t true I mean you look at Austin the guy can shoot you know he’s quick and really he’s just a really good basketball player call saying saying the guy can shoot about your kid well I guess it’s a good thing oh wait a minute hold on miss m miss m want to know what does he think about bronnie being in the league bronnie tries to guard him opening night what is he gonna say get your hands off of me this young heathen named bronny shall not call him Brony I shall call him what I called the Matson of Ky oh no oh no is a Savage come on Mrs I don’t know oh he’s a Savage man I don’t know why that amuses that’s hilarious not what no because we it’s so real it does feel like that’s what Luka would sound like the idea the idea of Luca sounding like a 14th century that’s what it is like clergyman is he just he just constantly has this look on his face like don’t touch me I am Luca and I cannot be touch and then he goes straight into uh like the 2024 when he sees Kyle Matson yeah says don’t touch me he he’s like two Live Crew with that word that was crazy Jesus man that is an awesome Story by the way n that is an awesome story it was it was way more awesome when I didn’t know that he just did that to every person that he’s ever looked at I was G say yeah each game of the finals he had like someone even Celtics owner at one point he was talking to like I you see him hit a three and he turn around and bark and he do his little like nod thing like oh man that’s what he he talk about someone’s mother at some point say it to Snoop or somebody like who it was Jimmy Jam oh it was Jimmy Jam that’s who it was Snoop was there too though Snoop right there what he look like K what do he look like when this a visual what he hit a three oh Luka Luka what Dall what Dallas do Dallas just did something they tra that’s what it was and and and uh yeah Detroit they got some they got some uh some cap draft picks cap relief the thought is to sign Dar Jones they get their F they got Dallas got cap Rel they got their full non- taxpayer mid-level to pay Derek Jones I don’t know if I I don’t know if he’ll get the full I like Derk Jones I always wanted him here in sack apparently money did too that’s what James always says I wish they would have been able to get him like Derek John but he this pass from the start of the year like the calendar year that’s the best Derrick Jones has ever played basketball in his NBA career yeah he was he was really really good facts um fiser can’t keep the king’s name out of his mouth um I know I know Fisher’s your guy Jake fiser oh Jake Fisher hey he was hilarious on draft night I missed I wasn’t I wasn’t F oh my so all due respect to Jake fiser he got in the first 10 picks he got like nine of them wrong oh and kept having to like quote tweet himself and just he was going through it it was like watching somebody wait wait what was he trying to report the B before it was yes he get like the team wrong or the player wrong and at one point he was like he was like he tweeted whoever it was and then he quote tweeted himself and was like it’s effing wear sorry everybody like just it was like watching somebody trip in fall but it took him forever to fall down like the person that Meme with the girl at the movie theaters with the popcorn yes yes oh no um he has uh and this is what our our our our our our main man Von Hill sent us this morning three teams monitoring the Brandon Ingram situation that’s Cleveland Atlanta and Sacramento let’s play along here for a minute yep which one of those three teams is most appealing for Brandon Ingram to sign a long-term contract with Cleveland who Sacramento in Atlanta Cleveland I’d say Cleveland OH no Sacramento what what made you change your mind on Cleveland uh I’m oh man I don’t know it depends on what Cleveland you hate Cleveland like Kenny does I don’t hate Cleveland I Allied vacation there he hates Bone Thugs and Harmony he hates Jim Brown he hates dogs Le out of this sty remember he’s a good little rapper I mean he still raps I guess had a little buzz for a second okay we’ll leave him out of this that’s fine sure you got it pal uh no it depends on what Cleveland’s trading in that in that move because in my head the Brandon Ingram to Cleveland thing only made sense if it was Donovan Mitchell and if they’re trading Donovan Mitchell to get Brandon Ingram then I’m think it would be Darius Garland yeah I think it’ be Garland and Jared Al but I think the Kings would makes sense if it’s James has laid out that three-way deal right with with the Hawks where the Hawks send Trey young to New Orleans New Orleans sends Brandon Ingram to the Kings and then the Hawks just get a boatload of assets from from both teams and that would make sense to me for for Sacramento but I don’t think I’m giving up like Keegan and other stuff to go get Brandon Ingram so I want to make sure I bring this up while both of you guys are here because I want to get both your guys um thoughts on this the the there’s a line in there because I’m learning from my main man DLo Damen Barling to read between the lines sometimes words matter sometimes right in the the article there’s there’s a line in there that sticks out like a sword thumb says one team to monitor for Ingram would be Sacramento the Kings have been weighing paths to acquire various Wings sources set weighing P I don’t I don’t necessarily think that means the Wizards the Pelicans the Nets are just like hey Sacramento do whatever you want whenever you want to come back over here we’re ready to do the deal I don’t think it necessarily means that but Wayne paths seems to be that the Kings have options and they’re trying to figure out which direction they want to go that’s what that says to me am I reading that wrong both of you guys I think so Jesus Christ okay you go everybody life and odyssey um go ahead um no I I I think so because we brought this up earlier on The Insider shout shout out to Matt George thanks for filling in today um maybe the reason that kma deal that was apparently like on the table on draft night maybe the reason that didn’t go through is because the Kings know okay this kosma thing is over here but hey we’re still on the phone about Brandon Ingram and there’s a lot of Miss there’s a lot of pieces that got to fall into place here but we want to make sure that we’re stockpiling our assets and keeping this war chest that we have this full War chest that we have because we’re going to need it for this bigger deal or maybe it’s Paul George I’m just picking picking big names out there maybe it’s Paul George maybe it’s Brandon Ingram we know that we can get Kyle kosma for two firsts and Kevin herder and Chris DTE or whatever it’ll take I don’t know we know that we we can do that deal we can massage that and get something done but we want to make sure that before we do that that we’re exhausting all our options with these bigger fish doesn’t that mean you agree with me yes oh I thought said I disag I don’t think so right as Dame said I think so yeah oh was I reading that wrong you said I don’t think so I don’t think you were wrong yeah no I think you might be so the line is both of you that’s right uh the Kings have been weighing P to acquire various Wings you asked I think that means they have options well sure Kyle kosma might be on the trade market Zack LaVine might be on the trade market Brandon Ingam may or may not be on the trade Market that that doesn’t mean the kings are like picking between the three yeah unless I’m misinterpreting well no when I and I I I kind of I kind of uh cushioned it a little bit saying I don’t think it’s necessarily that where all those three franchisers are like kings do whatever you want when you want to come back whatever I don’t think it’s necessarily like that but I do think it might be something like Kyle Kyle just put out like maybe not NE maybe so maybe we do have the Wizards in our back pocket like we we we know what that deal looks like we can push the button on that any time what do we what does Ingram look like they they they are engaging with us they are talking to us how far do we want to go with that and that’s I I I think I think they got options and the Nets we know we can for for the Nets we can you know maybe give a little less than we have to to get kozma but we think koosman’s a better player whatever so and that’s the that’s the thing with the Nets that I get stuck on is I feel like you could do one of these and the Nets interesting okay because I don’t again Jordy you want to help your boys out a little bit just like like because we’re we’re probably talking a draft pick yeah but I thought you could do that that makes sense before the draft and even more so before Davon and Sasha got traded now I feel like you only got one more deal left if you could wind up with Jordy might really like Chris orte give it to him what I’m saying I if you could um if you could wind up with any two of Cam Johnson Dorian fin Smith and Kyle kusma that’s a home run for right absolutely that’s huge any any two and I know that kman is on a different level than like Dorian Vin Smith but you can wind up with two of those guys are cooking I agree I think they I think the king we’ll talk about it some more but I think I think they got they got some in place I think they got options fit a pass on his body I’m John Stockton we’ll come back uh we’ll discuss these options that the Sacramento Kings may or may not have uh big thanks to Kyle Matson uh great week tough to uh you know have James out this week but you and Jesse did a fantastic job on the Insiders AKA The Producers indeed um go take a couple of days off we’ll see you back here Monday and we’ll come back we’ll talk more Kings options when D when Casey return on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 beat your ass and hide the Bible of God watching Kings acquired uh J Kenny hates that song Hate is a strong word I just not the big I’m not as much as he fact checks that song oh yeah know for sure would you be okay if we used it as a rejoiner sure fact checking fact checking I listen to it every day I R along we have to factchecking that song feels a lot like being like well Fred Warner played great in the Super Bowl you know it’s like man well it wasn’t be awesome I mean I you you ain’t never fact checked push-ups Family Matters yeah I did did you yeah okay I think I think but I also think those are that’s a great song right I think Euphoria is a great song Not Like Us is not like us is a is a okay song that’s been elevated I don’t think we it should be that’s I guess that’s more so the case not like us as a Gra song but Euphoria is the one out of this whole thing Euphoria and also I mean feels like it when you go on Instagram and you’re looking nice you’re dressed up ladies fellas or whatever um you’re not the first or 500th person that has had the captions sometimes you just got to pop out and show them all right all right we we’ve seen that that’s not original at all that’s at this point that’s saying you can’t touch this Kenny come on man come on no I gotta re in real quick no come on bro no they’re having fun that’s that’s corny that’s it’s not corny it’s not corny on June on June 28 be like the amount of people like oh I’m about to put this I’m about to get them with this one some it got a pop out and show them the amount of people that that use Drake lines over and over and over and over again in Instagram C which like the dude makes the dude name it uh in fact I’ve used some stand by yeah do you look imagine if I never met the brosis one was a big one on my timeline for a long for a long time do you think do you think do you think like uh you think you had seen that like 200 times it really is maybe yeah maybe doubt it allow me to reintroduce myself is one that people still use a lot from J they shouldn’t they shouldn’t that’s not I mean you can do whatever you want but that’s think that’s just like all right I think it’s great whatever you’re you’re not if you have a good caption if you have a good caption I you got I’m not going down anyway I’m not going down anyway I’m not the hater I like Kendrick I love the pop out no ha I like who’s the hater who’s the hater me or you you I no I don’t like Drake you’re the hater I’m I’m not a hater I don’t like Drake there’s a difference I’m not the hater I like Kendrick I like I enjoy both of their music the it’s not like us the only song that I that I was like I’m not feeling anything else Kendrick put out this whole time like 66 I thought it was okay I I did not like it I did not like it I think you warmed up to Euphoria yeah and then what do I say now it was dope like that what did I say when like that before Drake did anything yeah no we we yeah I was like you stupid if you I was like this is dope I like Kendrick music I didn’t like not like us that’s F I know you’ve been consing with that you’ve been consistent with that believe you called it trash that was that was a that was a hot te that was an emot that was it was an emotional reaction definit not trash huh I said you guys have a black job for sure 100 I’m not in California bye Kyle mson Kim got the hell out of here hold up is this it ban give me give me my money give me all my money appreciate you man you too thank you brother I don’t know if if Bryce is trolling or not he said Mike Florio said uh people could be entitled to three to $4,000 for that NFL lawsuit I heard where do I sign I heard that too I need I need at least I think as long as you had Sunday Ticket that check will be coming I need at least seven or eight years worth of just just give me my money back how do I prove I have it they just have it in the system I think have you guys ever gotten a settlement check before I got one when I was working at Champs got $4 I think I got a I think I got an apple one once it was like $70 Champs need to give me a champ definitely need to give me a settlement check they they never fired me really we talked about this before yeah we got ours because Champs used to hire you and then tell you no you have to wear our shoes so if you didn’t buy shoes from there like you had to get a pair of shoes and all that how would they know I don’t know bro they got sued for that’s all I know they never fired you they just stopped putting you on the schedule yeah I was it was this was a long time ago too I was this is before I went to C Hayward so we talking about 04 I think I remember you telling this story I called in like hey what’s it looking like on the on the schedule they’re like ah no you’re good this week it’s like all right cool called in the next week what’s it looking like no no you’re good this week bro all right cool did it for another week and then I just stopped calling well there you go so they probably owe me some money the mall next that 401k you got is crazy I know right I ever tell you the story how I got fired from io’s first job no so IO this is this is gonna sound tough io’s first job I’s my best friend for those who shout out he was he worked at KFC well that’s just not let’s just not but no I ain’t gon but D I ain’t gonna do it I’m leave it we was on the phone I was like hey don’t you got to work uh he’s like I don’t feel like hey hey call in for me I was like yo what he’s like yo like I I I don’t want to call it yo just call in for me call just tell them just just call in say you’re me and say like you can’t I’m like yo bro that’s wild all right bro like whatever um which one is it again he tell all right hey hey this is IO um I’m not I’m not going to be able to make it in I got a family thing and the guy goes yeah okay I think we’re just gonna not put you on the schedule anymore this doesn’t seem to be working out I was like all right cool no problem hit iio back I was like hey bro I think you’re fired what did he say he was like all right it’s cool I swear he might have went to work like twice like that is not that is not my man’s life right there oh man he was once the uh the like Michael the pr person for the Kings he had that job once with who the Kings what happened he he seemed like he’d be great for that job he was great at it and then he left and he he he he went to do what he does now yeah he had that job for he was there with like Darren Ma and and and and and that like he like the kings were good yeah yeah he was doing that yeah man should have stay yeah he should go back I mean I like my people over there now I’m just saying be able to get my my man is a is a my man is a politician I can’t believe he has I can’t I can’t believe he hasn’t uh I can’t run for president I can’t believe he hasn’t run for anything yet um still young true true story true story uh all right you were talking about options a minute ago uh for the Sacramento Kings what what do what are we thinking here if we get to Monday and we’re signing off at four o’clock and nothing has happened for the Sacramento Kings what’s I’d be shocked and disappointed and and maybe I shouldn’t be because um it doesn’t have to happen that that day whatever is going down it doesn’t have to happen but if some of those guys that we talk about have been traded or word has gotam kosma yeah Zack LaVine Zack LaVine cam yeah um or word has gotten out to various it doesn’t look like they’re going anywhere or something like that then I’d be shocked and disappointed I look at the draft pick the trade and I’m gonna give Monty the benefit of the doubt which I think everybody should and say he’s not no dummy okay he Mani draft dein Carter knowing eight of the people on the roster were guards and knowing yeah you probably don’t want that so he didn’t draft Devon Carter best player available oh oh man I didn’t realize I had all these guards and I don’t know what I’m gonna do now no he drafted Devin Carter he traded Davon Mitchell because he has he has moves in place hell you can make the argument that move was in place the DAV Davon sh he drafted dein Carter with the Davon deal in place I got you so I think I don’t know what it is I I I can’t even really guess as to who the player is or whatever the case may be I mean we’ll have fun I I think it’s I think it’s kozma that’s who I think it is um but I think he I don’t like I said I don’t want to go so far as to say Hey you know I got I got these three teams on hold right now you know we’re we’re deciding I don’t know if it’s that you know intricate but I think he knows what directions he can go in I think he’s got multiple and I I do believe the Jake fiser um kind of report that they’re trying to figure out which one they want to go down the Toronto Raptors are picking up the $23 million option on Bruce Brown’s contract salute to Bruce Brown get that money boy uh Brown will be a be a valuable trade asset on an expiring contract for the Toronto Raptors wge did not throw that last line in there on accident read one more time for him the Toronto Raptors are picking up the $23 million option on guard Bruce Brown’s contract Brown will be a valuable trade asset on an expiring contract for the Toronto Raptors again he did not throw that last line in there on accident not at all not at all I was just getting ready to say it feels like you know yesterday with day two of the draft um that it felt like ah things have kind of quieted down a little bit today after a bit of a hectic two days and um I I I you know business is going to pick up to a certain degree uh at some point maybe maybe this evening uh and certainly headed into tomorrow with opt out deadlines uh for the likes of Paul George uh for the likes of um whom am I missing there’s a there’s another big name I miss uh D’Angelo Russell D’Angelo Russell is another one um I I I imagine there’ll be a lot of you know if if Paul George opts in it you know I’m immediately and I’m I don’t I’m just I’m drawn to the James Harden thing the James Harden opting in to the final year of his contract and then forcing a trade to the Clippers that’s the way that all transpired with I lose track of the teams he’s was on I think this was Philadelphia at the time and I I I I feel like people talk about signning trades I think signing trades are a little more difficult to execute I think uh optins in trades are it’s the new wave Cas see it’s it’s the new thing in the association yeah and I think that’s what we’re looking at here I agree and so if Paul George opts in I will be very very curious what happens right after that very very curious yeah because I’d be shocked if he’s opting in to play with the Los Angeles right his situation specifically where he wants a new contract and doing all this other stuff like you said I doubt he’s just opting in like oh let’s just do this one more year like no he just become a free agent he he’s either going to sign an extension or he’s going to become a free agent and sign a long long-term deal there let’s get Buddha in here 91699 1320 Buddha what’s good baby what’s up family how my boys doing today man good man how you doing dog hey bro I’m doing amazing bro I see y’all cooking we cooking over there in Sacramento we doing our thing like yes sir to I love I love the boy Devin Carter you I mean that you got rid of Davon it make more sense because Devin Carter he’s a beast for he can strap up get a bucket hopefully he could just knock down his three-pointer and everything be cvy but as far as the trade that happened yesterday jayen McDaniels people gota St sleeping on him man because I seen him when he was with the Philly he was a strap he played uh the Hawks and he was playing like Trey young straing him up making them work going crazy like so he was with a he didn’t get a consistent consistent minutes last year so I feel like if we give him consistent minutes he can really turn up for us and I ain’t gonna lie I think that K Trad should still be alive because he’s the missing piece for real for real because if you can trade Cs and get for I’m sorry not get but you know for Barnes and Kev and will say bread and give whatever picks I feel like that’s the mission piece to the starting line because if you got to line up of fox monk Keegan K and sabonis that’s crazy it don’t I mean you could even start Ellis if you want to to bring the fir power off the bench because then you’ll have Carter M you might have jayen or you can get a free agent because you know we got the midle now so Trey l ly McGee oh my God what you guys think we got see see you cooking man see you I see you cooking yes a good look absolutely man excited I’m on for it and and like like Buddha is talking about man I I think just think there’s more out there I do you think I’m off we’re off when I say when I say Monty has a at the very least a good idea in what direction what’s out there for him and what direction he he can go in I think that’s a optimistic view which is nothing wrong with that like it doesn’t mean he doesn’t um I think it it’s like I I think it boils down to are you a glass half full person or a glass half empty person um maybe he does uh there’s there’s obviously there here here’s here’s the thing I think we could say with extreme confidence they’re working on something mhm the the glass half empty part is they’ve worked on stuff before like there was a report about the SE yakum tra like Toronto was here the meeting happened in person I don’t even know if we were off the air before it was like well trade talks are over like what did they what did what did Messi land and just go hey forget it never mind it’s over like they’ve we you know we we we’ve got some pretty good knowledge on the ogn and noi stuff like they’ve worked before but whether something has stopped them from pulling the the the trigger to get the deal done or someone on the other side has kind of slowed down momentum or you know they just hit a brick wall we’ve seen this before and I think I’m maybe more of the you’re you’re optimistic in this I might be a little more pessimistic and it’s like well what wall are they going to hit like who’s going to swoop in and go no I want Kyle kozma here’s a f an extra first round pick or who’s going to swoop in uh you know Brandon Ingram doesn’t want to resign in Sacramento and this time Monty’s like oh you know what I’ll take I I I’ll I’ll roll the dice on that yeah but he wants to sign in Atlanta and they just sweetened this deal so we’re going to Atlanta because they know he wants to sign there so they just sweeten the deal up because they know he’s going to be there for the next four years I’m waiting for that and that that sucks you’re waiting for Lucy to pull the football away yeah I’m I’m just I’m just waiting for what’s happened so many times here over the last really year to happen again yeah understandable and all of those by the way happened at different moments OG was a different moment than SE yakum cakam was was there at the trade deadline we don’t really know what if anything transpired with Kyle kman or Zack LaVine to the best of our knowledge nothing actually nothing ever went anywhere with Zack LaVine last year at the trade deadline there was no Pursuit there was there was talk there was a thought but I don’t know that there was like a true Pursuit so there’s all these different things in like different places the difference right now is all of this stuff is now it’s like right now all happening at the same time you know you know who might be the back pocket uh person of Zack LaVine all else fails you know you can go get Zack LaVine and and I’m not saying that’s right or anything else like that but we were talking about the other day like who else is pursuing him like that like all else PHS you know you can make that move yeah you’re G to explore different paths to see if maybe there’s some other things that you could do that might fit a little better might be a little better on the on the the books but the thing that really told me that there were two well both of the things that I talked about really told me that he had something going on the Devin Carter draft and then the Davon Mitchell Sasha trade number one for space and number two for a team that’s asset strapped you don’t just give away two assets you know what I mean like you you don’t have a lot to give away you don’t give away what little you have to to use yeah for just cap in in and meaning in in correct me if I’m wrong here you talking about Sasha and Davon with the idea of it doesn’t matter that maybe Sasha’s not didn’t enjoy his time in Sacramento he wants to continue his NBA career else well the Kings could have included that remove the name sorry forgive me for doing this remove the name they could have traded the $6 and a half million dollars somewhere else attached to something else right and in in my opinion you hold on to that if you don’t have anything like ready to go so what do you think why do you think nothing has happened yet I I agree with Jake I think they’re trying to figure out what direction they want to go or maybe they I do figure out I do think um and I just thought about this as we’re sitting here talking about I do think Zack LaVine is the back pocket deal like you always have that there they’re trying to work I think I’m not sure if they’re 100% sold on it the whole the whole front office and I think they’re trying to work some other deals out they’re trying to work with some some other teams maybe the Pelicans maybe the Wizards uh maybe the Nets Maybe the Blazers to see if they can get something else going working the phones working trade deals but you know at the end of the day worst case scenario so we don’t come out of this with anything or with nothing uh you can you can always get Zack line do you think um why that’s our guy Logan right why does Logan have the bedroom of a teenager he lives in the Bay Area why does oh oh oh that’s his bedroom living room dining room poor brother’s kitchen’s off to the side okay I got you okay you’re you’re right my bad my bad just shout out DJ Lee with the PHD just just shout out DJ Lee just for fun a little while ago I went on like Zillow or Trulia and typed in like uh like Brooklyn New York or something like that looking for some investment properties no I just was curious oh okay well I didn’t poor people hey it be may be that room that you saw from Logan it’s like $3,200 a month to rent stop it’s crazy man it is CRA I don’t know how they doing it out there boy I got distracted I just looked up saw my man Logan Murdoch was like why is why does Logan’s room look like that know and then you reminded me because poor brother’s in the Bay Area it’s price price price to live it’s tough man price to live it is tough what do you think um let me read let me let me let me try that again dump button how does how does free agency factor into all of this because we keep talking about acquiring contracts through trade you have this space because of you know the moves you made yesterday the moves you made yesterday gave you a little bit more space but what do what do Sunday how does Sunday play into this how does the start a free agency play into this I feel like more um more than I originally anticipated free agency does play a role like the actual because the new money available and actually getting a free agent um using the mle you know and and and and bolstering your roster that way too I mean it it could be it could be a couple different things like you’ve talked about it I think Kyle talked about it as well it doesn’t have to be one deal it doesn’t have to be one trade that all right we’re done it could be two or three people you know what I mean it could be quote unquote smaller deals like Cam and finy Smith might be considered a smaller deal but it may allow you to sign Nai Marshall you know for going those two and while I like CS while I like Brandon Ingram if you can get a essentially a three for one type deal maybe that I’ll probably be more apt to go with that than trading a bunch of assets for one guy so could could be something like that do you think there still needs to be some room because you know Davon was traded yesterday and that was obviously a big um dominant that was a big talking point at Tom’s watch bar in Twitter on on Wednesday uh Wednesday evening okay so nine guards went to eight or eight went to seven or whatever they’re still like we talked about Chris dorte like there’s still a there’s still an abundance of players at that position including including a guy who I just am not quite sure what you’re gonna do with if he’s here and that being Kevin herder like Chris dorte man my apologies brother but Chris like can sit and it’s not really a big deal you know obviously it is for him but you know what I mean it’s not a big deal you probably don’t really just want to bench Kevin herder no like you don’t want Kevin herder racking up dnps Jaylen and jacobe will go nuts like you don’t you don’t want they get together somewhere and go crazy you don’t want that so youo it okay Davon was traded all right you still have an abundant of players at that position and then you still have one of all of the other ones that I feel like you really need to figure out what you’re going to do with and and maybe doing something with is you’ve committed to how this is going to work in your rotation because Kevin herder staying on the Sacramento Kings is not the worst thing that could possibly happen Kevin herder staying on the Sacramento Kings and him playing like last year that’s probably the worst thing that could happen you don’t want that but what do you like what do you want if he’s here and probably the greater question and I think we have asked and answered this on multiple occasions do you want him here and I think there’s one one very very very very important figure in the Sacramento Kings who doesn’t and I don’t mean that maliciously or mean I just don’t think Kevin herder does what Mike Brown wants I agree and you that has to get fixed yeah either by Kevin not being here anymore or by all parties figuring out how to get the most out of Kevin her of this upcoming season I agree 100% man thank um there was another part oh man I thought I had it here right in front of me I don’t but I know what was said um in the fiser article is he said the contracts of herder and Barnes match up perfectly with Brandon Ingram’s $36 million I think he’s guaranteed this year um just interesting I mean he’s kind of getting into detail I wouldn’t I don’t think and I probably wouldn’t like I don’t think Harrison Barnes works for the Pelicans I would see and I don’t know if the money works as seamlessly after this but I would look more so for herder dwarte and maybe a pick maybe multiple picks at that point that might be more appealing to me if I was um if I was the Pelicans dwar is an expiring contract and if I can get a couple of Kings picks maybe that might work if you avoided I’m trying to work through this if you avoided trading Harrison MH and were able to land Ingram for the for the reasons she slid out just because maybe he might not fit over there MH if you’re able to avoid trading Harrison and you can land Ingram and somehow land cam Johnson losing Ingram after a year isn’t nearly as impactful no now obviously I’m not trying to say cam Johnson as good as Brandon that’s not that that wasn’t at all my point it means that you still have you’re not empty yes in in in the wing position and so if you’re and and and maybe you know maybe there’s an importance to as as you and Kyle were kind of talking about a minute ago not Landing one guy but landing to and and this I think is particularly true it doesn’t matter if it’s kosma because you know Kyle kma’s here for a while if you’re able to land that it’s a it’s a it’s a fantastic luxury if you’re able to land somebody to go along with him but if you land Brandon Ingram getting a second player like a cam Johnson to go along with that helps cushion it it it helps depending on what draft Capital you have to to execute something with New Orleans it it it it cushions anything that could go ay for you at the end of next year and I wh while I believe Monty is willing to take risk this year I think he’s also uh if he sees a path to minimize his risk as much much as possible he’ll take that too we’ll come back um way in let’s talk it’s Friday baby it’s been a long week here it’s been a long week man A lot’s going on uh and we’re hoping for a lot to happen 91699 1320 you could jump in uh and take part in the conversations uh in the chatty house brought to you by 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Michigan Michigan Wolverine strikes me as a guy who has uh a cheat day like he eats you know broccoli and dry chicken for six days a week but but one day on the weekend man my my my bro goes and gets a a burger and fries from Five Guys Drew Down said Michigan requested five gu for Father’s Day oh you y’all are y’all are a mess how do y’all feel about the draft being two days we’ll talk about that I had I I I had that in I had that in my notes we’ll talk about that I was like why don’t why does it sound different yeah Michigan I need to I need to go back to cheat days Michigan your boy you your your your boy ain’t been on point lately I gotta got to tighten up man me too oh appreciate you Roxy thanks man I don’t I I hate dressing in the summer so I go to lyen a lot I go to linen a lot in the summer I appreciate you I don’t think I’ve worn this before so it’s it’s good to hear Drew down stop it yo Drew you wild bro Drew is wild PJ Tucker has exercised his 11.5 million options I don’t blame him what you gotta do brother PJ got a shoe collection to feed though I doubt he’s paid for any of them shoes but still I think he paid for some he got think so yeah yeah some of them he got he got the hookup on hey do a little video for us or whatever I think he did man well I mean he’s probably I mean most of his shoes are Nikes no got oh does he yeah most of them but to your point most of them are Nike yes I mean the man played a game in awful ones which is just insane on like nine different levels he played a game I think in um in some uh Whatchamacallit uh easy joints oh the but like it was crazy the ones he was talking about it’s crazy well Drew having met your wonderful bride you two are perfect together you two are absolutely perfect together together I tried to land a pair of shoes like last weekend and failed I can’t remember which ones they were they were they were some dunks though they little like like they were gray they were pretty hot I hope so oh look at the roller wink opening up that’s gonna be shout out HF man that looks spectacular yeah they did a really good job that looks spectacular is that oh I was gonna say is that mayor Steinberg nope it’s probably a good idea tonight not send him out there got our boy Robbie and the rest of the crew can’t wait to see that joint I won’t be out there this weekend I’ll go see it next week for sure I told him uh told him about two weekends I’ll be out there I’m uh just taking a look at IG here during the um commercial break we know some pretty there’s some pretty dope people here in sacrament is man looking at our our our HF crew Robbie and and and abs one and and and the rest of the boys over there who open up the roller rink right downtown across from the golden one Center where the ice rink normally is that took me right into King melly’s feed who’s just one of oh my God man he is just the coldest designer he is killing it uh what he does with these designer Brands man are just spectacular and Y these are these are our people out here man there is so much incredible there are so many incredible people here in this city man and it’s it it’s it’s a I tell my my buddy all the time man it’s it’s starting to Boom out here right now man we’re on the I think we’re on the precipice of like a Renaissance out here like it there is a lot of creative people out here a lot of talented people out here and it it’s it’s going up right now man shout shout out to my people over at HF man for that roller ring thing man that’s that’s so dope that’s gonna be so much fun uh all summer long you know something that that the family can do you know what I mean it’s it’s I was I was telling my guy Robbie man I was like man I’m I’m so happy to see you guys doing this man this is this is dope man y’all keep putting on for the city shout out AB shout out Tony all the dudes over there man they doing a great job great group over there and Stephen points out rip to Solomon I was sad to see Solomon go uh the Hof crew kind of let that one go let let let some new people uh take over and I they just they didn’t know what to do with it and I guess we’re I guess we’re setting that joint down um I went down I don’t know what triggered it oh yes I do I watched the uh how music got free Doc that we talked about on ksfm the little the little I don’t know why they did this they they made it two episodes they’re each 42 minutes it could have been a just an hour and a half documentary um but they made it a little miniseries or whatever it was on Paramount plus and you know you’re you’re talking records tape CDs all of this stuff and obviously Tower Records and is featured in that and it just sent me down like a rabbit hole of Tower Records and and and um just looking at Solomon like all of these different things that uh we’ve had around this city for so many years and it was dope like it was cool to know like that’s part of that’s part of Sacramento’s and it’s respected you know what I’m saying like people respect Tower Records right you know around the country you know what I’m saying like started here man it was here with us man so and Jaylen I mean Jaylen makes a hell of a point Solomon’s had to die for the grand opening of Malik all right all right guys breaking news that’s where Maliks is gonna be we were trying to keep it under wraps but all right the the the Twitter investigators who are like wait a minute why is Monty doing this deal oh to clear cap space Oh there’s something on the way they saw Solomon’s closing wait a minute we know what’s going on here wait a minute you guys aren’t slick y’all are sharp man y’all are sharp Maliks is on the way all die for the grand opening of Maliks hey all the mighty ones gota fall man we here we here someone asked I think it was our man Aldren Jay yeah Aldren Jay ask so D KC how do y’all feel about the draft being in two days y’all think that it should continue or go back to one day uh I think there’s a couple of important points about what happened yesterday in terms of the second day of the draft I believe the reason the draft was on in the middle of the day was the debate that makes okay I I believe that the the reason it wasn’t a second day of prime time was because there was a presidential debate that many of us tuned into last night and so I and this obviously won’t be a problem next year right so I’m I’m I’m guessing next year we get two prime time JS to answer one of your questions Auden I don’t think it I don’t think it needs to go back to two days and it’s not going back to two days and the number one reason why wait wait you mean or I don’t think it needs to go back to one day yeah I don’t think it needs to go back to one day because and and it won’t go back to one day because if you go back and watch day two of the draft which Kenny was very critical of because it was happening at the the ESPN Studio on on on the on the seport say it was it was the cafeteria no it was the ESPN studio and just look at just look at the draft panels there were like five sponsors on that panel like this is not going anywhere I loved what Adam said it made a lot of sense teams wanted time they wanted this they wanted that and we saw deals I think the Knicks just made four more deals in the last five minutes like they they they they was making moves all day yesterday they were using that time that they had most teams didn’t even Draft when you know they were slotted to draft and so everything Adam said about the decision to move to two days happened but it was also another day to sell a massive amount of advertising which clearly they were able to do very successfully so I enjoyed uh the two days I think I partly enjoyed the second day more because it was happening during the show um I’m not I’m not as confident I’m going to enjoy it as much next year if it’s starting at like five yeah you know what I mean like it might be more it might wind up being more background noise than appointment viewing like Wednesday was um but you know we’ll experience that next year I guess I I thought it was I thought it was fine all all jokes aside or whatever I thought it was fine um that they did it on a separate Day part of me kind of feels like it took away from the second round of the draft a little bit I’m not acting like the second round when it was all one day was this great appointment television or anything like that but in some respects you were already there right like as a viewer you’re already there not not much else going on you’ll stay for the second round you’ll see some of the stories you’ll see so I remember watching that guy play you’ll see him if it’s it’s like anything else right if you go away if you turn it off then they go away they might not come back right so that’s you know that’s the one complaint I’d have from it but it’s it’s fine I mean it’s a I think it’s it’s all good it’s another day of and what we do another day of content another opportunity for Content um this was this was I wonder what it would be like to your point if there was no bronnie there like how interested I’d be because outside of bronnie i’ really wasn’t interested in any I was more interested in the the people that get picked up that were undrafted MH than a lot of those second rounders so I I wonder how that works out now and then next year it’s going to be a stronger class so there may be more guys that you’re more interested in in the second round as well um but from I think uh San venti said that the it’s not going nowhere because the aside from the advertisement and stuff they said like the GMS and front office people loved it yeah they were like yeah this was great first round was great you know uh you know I don’t mean to sound like this this they’re like yeah it allowed us not to get home at an ungodly hour all right we’re talking about one night settle down we could be with our families and we didn’t have to get home in an ungodly hour okay relax relax bro settle down so I think that’s some jackass in New York who thinks the world revolves around them Monty got home and got a good night’s sleep on Wednesday and Thursday so did every other general manager on the west coast I swear I swear Sports thinks they revolve around these these these dudes on the East Coast think Sports revolve around them it’s like settle down like you said one the one time I do remember when he drafted Davon I think I think the the the press conference was like at 11 that sound about right Davon was I feel like Davon was a pandemic draft pick I feel like that was on Zoom if I remember correctly well Tyrese was definitely the pandemic yeah I think there were so DAV maybe lesser of a pandemic yeah maybe little little little because I I feel like I remembered well I guess all draft picks are on I guess they’re all on Zoom um because uh no I think Davon was there I think Davon was there I think they were all in Brooklyn okay because I kind of remember him like remember people were like it doesn’t look like he wanted to be there yeah yeah yeah yeah I remember that yeah and and he was just like no just how I looked or you know I didn’t talk to him whatever so no he was he was there he was in the building but that was I think that was uh kayada and and uh NBA champion NBA champion me kada and Keon Ellis and I think I think Monty had to do the I just remember being at home we had the eight hour show so we didn’t end till I don’t know who knows I wasn’t able to be with my family going to say I got home at an ungodly hour but I was at home all day so um yeah I just I remember that the latest that it would be for the West Coast it’s and even like I said if you’re in Maryland it’s one night relax if you get home at three it’s fine you’re fine you’re fine boy hour draft shows goodness gracious uh Paul George is the big story headed into the weekend yeah yes I put Klay Thompson up there too if clay if clay when when clay well my opinion when clay officially goes to another team yeah that’s gonna be a big deal when so okay a couple of things here Paul George is probably the biggest story on Saturday Klay Thompson might be the biggest story on Sunday um because CL Paul George has to make a decision tomorrow or by tomorrow um do you think a Thompson tweet goes out I don’t know what time free agency starts is it 3 pm. maybe 3 time yeah I was thinking I was thinking noon um but maybe it’s nine I don’t think it’s nine I don’t think so either but I don’t think it’s nine stand by six so three oh three o’clock it’s gonna be lit yeah it’s going to be crazy it’s going to be that’s going to be hot I got a game on Sunday at two does just come out of the game be like like to massive wge alerts choms why’d you say it like that no I gotta include Shams too well you just said it weird well I I didn’t want to leave him out because he’s gonna be breaking new well hell Damen Barling he’s the one that beat Shams so I I might get well casy did and that only happened once was really hoping it happened the second time and we would somehow be the Malik monk insiders but crickets that didn’t happen you know what one actually hurt me a little bit was the Harrison Barnes one we were on every detail of that story for weeks yeah and didn’t get it what happened that also happened after the show or something right Harrison happened might have been a weekend or something I don’t think we were on air we weren’t on air when Harrison happened we definitely weren’t on air um I think it was I think it happened after the show yeah it just happened after the show do you think a um we’re really kind of Young MC right now we’re a one- hit wonder oh damn that is a shot at Young MC well we dropped bus to move and that’s about all we it’s about all we’ve had in our Arsenal so far what was the uh what was the other song that Father MC did does he have Father MC yeah treat treat like the one with Jesy he’s got that and then does he have another one well no no he’s got two he’s got uh um everything’s gonna be all right that was him in Jesy he might have done it that that’s the one I was thinking oh oh no treat it like that’s that’s Aaron Hall yeah well Aaron Hall is canceled right I I don’t know I don’t know I miss you is a phen I know but did you read the what you didn’t you I don’t I don’t even know if I want to know oh oh oh you don’t know you really you you you as a shoe you don’t know no there’s there’s new stuff with and all there’s stuff tied to Sean yeah no I do remember that yeah yeah I do remember that yeah yeah oh uh uh if you do for me do for you so got how did Father MC come up because you said uh We’re Young MC Young MC and I was when you said that I thought about Father MC but they’re too now Father MC got too many hits to be deal with JC we just got the one Father MC got two three I think we’re at three every everything’s GNA be all right is on here yeah might be a hey we going to the roller r with this one Bo get this one on the roller ring we moving I’m spinning let’s go oh yeah this is fire he hey I didn’t know see hey yeah that’s fire that’s fire all right we’re we’re uh come on fat so just bust them move um we we like Monty we’ve been close on other breaking news but never we only traded for sabonis that’s all that’s all we got um do you think a Klay Thompson signs with tweet goes out between the hours of 3 pm and 4 pm Pacific Standard time on Sunday afternoon yes yes I think it’s I think it’s one of the headliners feel like it’s a done deal that he’s leaving the Warriors yeah did you see there’s too much think it’s Orlando well did you orando there yeah Denver’s in there too now talking about Denver wait I think I for Clay did I see Denver and Paul George this morning I didn’t see that I’ll look that up maybe maybe maybe I maybe I maybe I maybe I read that wrong yeah just everyone be quiet by the way no yeah no didn’t new new report on Paul George to Denver uh trade rumors I thought I saw that um uh the deadline for Paul George to decide blah blah blah that’s tomorrow if George Ops in on the final Years big of his deal the expectation is that he’s going to get dealt that’s what we talked about uh a new report from Ant-Man and and and and Sam am of the athletic was revealed at the Denver Nugget showed a level of interest in trading for George but we’re unwilling to give up what the Clippers wanted so it was a conversation that went nowhere it looks like wonder what the Clippers one I’m my first thought is Aon Gordon um my first thought the next St would be Michael Porter Jr would you would you give up if you were Denver would you give up Michael Porter Jr for Paul George I think I’d start there instead of Aaron Gordon definitely Aaron Gordon seems like a non-star so I think you’re on well okay I think you were on to something a second ago um this is uh from our guys at the athletic yet in addition to giving George uh the max deal which Denver I guess was going to do in this conversation or was willing to do in this conversation they also and and this leads me to believe this is where the Clippers sources come into play they also would have had to give up Michael Porter Jr uh in a significant amount of draft Capital the Nuggets value their draft picks uh perhaps as much as any other contender in the league and so their interest ended there I wonder what a significant amount of draft Capital means three plus probably at least I think yeah because this isn’t a one year let’s see if it works this the idea was he’ll Paul George probably ending his career there yeah wherever he go wherever he goes yeah I I don’t know obviously Paul George is a better player I don’t know if I trade Michael Porter Jr for Paul George at this point in his career now I’m also thinking I do have a championship in my back pocket like we have we’ve gotten to the mountain top so there’s a there’s not the same regardless of what they say there’s not the same level of urgency as if you didn’t have that Championship yeah Paul George right now is better correct I yes yes I’m gonna say yes do you think M Michael Porter Jr will ever reach that he’s good but I don’t know like I feel like I feel like they could win another another title with Paul George see I think so too and I think i’ take Paul George for the next three years I don’t think Michael J is gonna just reach like that ability I know you’re I know you you’re you’re really high on Michael Porter Jr I think Denver could win with Paul George like next year I mean not that they can’t win with Michael Porter Jr either that’s I’m not more of a sure thing is what I’m yeah I’m with you the thing that I’m I’m hung up on and and and maybe maybe uh you guys are 100% correct but with yage and Jamal Murray they don’t need I don’t believe they need as much of a shot Creator as they do a knockdown three guy that’s gonna that’s GNA knock down the open jump shots when joic is kicking it out to and things of that nature and I I wonder if if if um Michael Porter’s better for that role or Paul George that’s what I’m hung up on because everything you guys are saying is making sense but Paul George I don’t think he’s going to have those ISO opportunities in Denver that he had with the Clippers and he’s going to turn into like that catch and shoot knockdown finisher type guy and is he better at that or Michael Porter Jr now this is a tough time to ask that conversation Michael Porter Jr was was terrible in that second round against Minnesota so you got to ask yourself is that is is that more so who he’s going to be moving forward or is he going to be like the guy that was you know cashing out during that Championship run do you think that Clippers do you think the Clippers want Paul George it’s all relative right I kind of feel like they don’t they want him at their price like if Paul George left if he just flat out left opted out gone do you think they’re kind of quietly going all right let’s go to work or do they feel like they lost something um it’s interesting they feel question they feel this is a a tough term to use they feel borderline and different that that’s kind of what it is and they answer your question to get off the fence maybe maybe they don’t want them because if they wanted them they’d sign them to the extension well I feel like they’re ready to move on but like Paul George at the right price is still great in this league too so Paul George wants to come back for less than the max like yeah we’ll take that easy okay so so Paul George Paul George is only great at the right price I think that that’s the Clippers thinking yeah so so okay I’m not sure I’m not sure what they’re thinking because you say you lose Paul George you let him walk what are you as a franchise I’m sure they have some type of plan because you did Max out Kawai so you’re expecting to be competitive but they don’t have no money right like losing Paul George doesn’t open up a I don’t think it does I don’t I don’t I don’t think you mean open up cap space form I don’t yeah and and we we mentioned this during the commercial break didn’t mention to to to the radio audience PJ Tucker exercised his player option uh that’s 11.5 million um is that expiring so yeah I mean if he’s opting in that that means there’s one year left on his deal so the the only the only thing Paul George lein does for your cap is that it gives you more money to give to James Harden man pay paal George stop pay pa pay pay him pay pay pa God pay Russ too if you want pay Russ always Russ played for like four million last year that’s probably what he’s gonna play for again this year but um Harden was Harden on the cheap deal last year no no he was on no he was on the final year he was on the final year of his his big money deal wasn’t he yeah just everyone go silent let it digest trying to figure this out uh that could be the move sure um sure I mean Paul George is better than Demar de rozan I think it’s close and you know you know I say all this saying know Paul George my boy but I think it is pretty close feels like feels like it feels like Demar is a little bit more reliable than Paul George okay I don’t hate I don’t I don’t I don’t hate that I think I think it’s pretty close though I think they’re Mark can create I think at this point in their career they’re on the same tier does everyone from La have to go back to the Clippers or Lakers at some point yeah gotta go home yeah gotta go who who’s who would be next I don’t think he’s from LA but Zack LaVine is La ties where is Zack LaVine from that’s a good question I don’t know oh Terence what’s Terence Matt’s trade value you think because he’s got a contract at high number too like if the Clippers wanted to make a splash probably start there like you put him and um PJ Tucker together that’s like 35 million ex ter Washington Terence man would be um he’d be he is from Washington that’s right like Seattle area that’s right um it should be about 25 mil I was looking at the wrong number he put them together man’s got 25 mil no he’s 11 mil I was looking at the wrong column he’d be good in Philly I don’t know Terence man would be good in Philly I don’t know how he gets there but you you’ve got me wondering about the Clippers s recap situation we’re going to we’re going to we’ll we’ll we’ll look this up a little bit because it it just really feels like they do not care what Paul George does in the next 24 hours I mean obviously they want to get they’re not a team in transition yet they’re just a team that’s kind of like stuck they were the hottest team in the NBA for a split second last year and oh this is an expensive basketball team dud well you know you know what though oh my goodness you know what though if there’s one person who doesn’t care how expensive things are it’s their own and rightfully so yeah rightfully so he is the richest owner he’s playing with different money than anybody else in is that’s a shoot we’ll come back we’ll talk more basketball get in on the conversation if you’d like the Matthews mattress chatty house across our streaming platforms or hit us on the phone lines 91699 1320 ste1 casy brought to you by Sky River Casino get in on the action Sky River Casino is the place to play with 2100 of the newest slot machines in over 80 table games sky is the limit at Sky River Casino y’all hit the thumbs up while you here I saw some funny stuff happening on YouTube yesterday I got to tell you guys about uh oh oh I think I know where you’re going wild wild magic beans hm okay okay okay it’s in the notes we can talk about that a little bit Charlotte is waving Seth Curry but interest exists on both sides to keep talking on a new deal okay is this a shoot is Dalton connects number four that’s correct come on man that’s funny that is that’s funny all right settle down Lakers this Bob I watched this B Myers clip like five more times last night my favorite is when he pretends to write something because W is typing on his phone that’s by far my favorite part like he was trying to look busy oh man Bob Myers bronnie will wear number nine that’s going to be one of the most attended press conferences in history I’ll be watching so was making a good point is it dad passing me the ball is it Braun pass me the ball pops Stephen A Smith went big today on his show he did five uh top five nicknames Bron should call LeBron oh that’s what he was doing I did see one of them was old man I think lazy KD is better right now I think yeah this is a completely accurate summary of Bob Meers yesterday I like that just call him his number six what is he six I couldn’t remember if he was six or 23 I think he changed back to 23 now that I think about it hey 23 two three I hope braon at least bronnie at least one time hits him with it I love that Ley just fires off questions to all of us can you see the Rockets getting oh I read that as can I see the Rockets getting a point guard can I see the Rockets is getting Paul George that seems like the Rockets are positioning themselves in a good spot I don’t know if Paul George is what they’re looking for um they seem to be trying to make a play they’re trying to do something they I mean oh I like I like this Kyle Westside connect game that’s a that’s that’s a good one West Side connect gang that’s good that’s good Bang there you go lazyy I’m with it I’m with CV Rockets can get uh Harrison Barnes I don’t know for what though I I don’t know why we doing that deal um let’s go to Hoops hype this isn’t spot track isn’t helping me with this as much as I want oh oh yes it is there it is that’s what I was looking for to cap allocations the uh I’m trying to these are the 2425 Clippers that’s the season we’re going into yeah they’ve got some yes sir yeah so kawai’s do 49 .3 gotta wait to see what happens with Paul George this is a this is an interesting team that’s that’s that’s all I can say this is this is an interesting team with an interesting makeup that is that that needs to do something um otherwise they’re just kind of stuck they’re like Stuck in the Middle again this was at one point in this last season the hottest team in the league mhm and they cooled off significantly at the end you dealt with the dreaded kawh Leonard injury um and now you’ve got this situation going on with Paul George that I can’t make heads or taals of because like I said I feel like they’re indifferent to whether Paul George stays or goes I feel like a playing Team without Paul George like them and the suns are two teams that finished top six and I don’t really see them doing much this year the way things neither one of them I’m with you on that I’m with you on that I I want to I want to see exactly what happened with um the the suns in the second season but I don’t have a lot of confidence that they’re going to be I don’t have none they’re gonna be able to be any different I don’t I don’t know um I don’t know like what additions they can make like one of the things that I really think they they needed was a point guard and I don’t know if they were able to get that in the draft I haven’t looked at what they got in the draft and I don’t know if they have you know they have a mid level or something like that where they can get a point guard um but if they’re if they’re just running back uh Bradley Bill at the one nah man and and it just it’s just a it’s just a game of chicken just in general trying to get all those guys through another another year like I don’t I don’t think that that’s are we confident in the Mavs too no I’m not so there’s three spots kind I was you’re not confident them being top six oh uh is talk yeah top six I’m kind of like looking at the Suns and the Clippers I think they’re going to fall out yeah I I wouldn’t say confident but like I wouldn’t be surprised I need to see them I need to see them do it again you know yeah I don’t even need the whole season let me let me see how you start the first two months I felt a certain way um as the as the as they were headed into the finals even during the finals they getting their ass kicked I didn’t hold that against them that was about that was about Boston um but then I said man can can they do it again like are they gonna be better all like because my feeling was they’re going to be better they’re going to be a year together but obviously they’re still they’re still working like they’re not content and maybe Nico and and and that crew I don’t think Mark Cuban has a role I just think he rides around on the jet didn’t U didn’t uh windhorse talk about that like a job he’s like yeah he’s just kind of there just yeah he’s just riding on the jet they literally just let a pedestrian he’s got Alvin’s job I guess for the Dallas Mavericks he’s the vibe curator that’s a good job to have well he’s not as good as Alvin but hey hey do your thing feel like a lot of the Mavericks role players played above how they usually do too I’m curious how much of it is like okay that’s who you are now or like all right you just got hot in the playoffs are they all capable so which you like are they all capable of doing it again and what are that you know that’s another team clearly they’re they’re not sitting still they’re trying to get some things done are they a team that can make one more move that all right it gets them going a little bit little bit further gets get meaning like gets the wheels turning a little bit faster and can get everyone on the same page you know headed into next year what would it be though if you’re Dallas like I’m looking at the I don’t I don’t know it’s almost like you would upgrade a guy who was probably good for you last year K kzo would help he he would help but you you don’t need they don’t need a lot they just need I think are just a more solidified third player well they they also have been in the the rumors are they’re try they were sniffing around trying to see if they can get Jeremy Grant that would help yeah but I mean what you sending PJ to the which well not just what you’re sending it’s what it’s also what you’re sending to Portland because that’s that’s like that’s that’s bread true that’s money yeah that you gotta so you’re you’re coming off something um uh and to be honest with you now off the top of my head Tim Hardway Jr probably would have been somebody involved in that who was traded this morning yeah I think he makes what Jesse makes like 18 19 yeah 18 million right now they’re 15 million under the luxury tax after that move so you could that would put them yeah I was going to say 15 million under the luxury tax puts them seven seven maybe 30 away from the second apron right because it’s I think it’s like I think it’s like plus seven and then maybe plus seven more increments of 15 million or something like that no I think it was increments of like seven million oh so they’re below they’re below the tax so seven will get you as a tax team another seven gets you in the first apron right no I think 15 gets you to the tax team another s get you to the first day that’s what I that’s what I yeah yeah so they’re 15 away from the T man they have more money than I thought yeah cuz that’s how the Tweet was presented too and I remember who tweeted it out it’s like yeah the Mavs are, 1500 the luxury tax but if even if they jump in there they’re this much away from the first apron This Much from second yeah they they they got room to work some bread they got room to work some bread and they’ve this is as this is as successful as they’ve been in you know getting out there and making moves and acquiring players then I mean not a shot Nico’s been stronger in these Acquisitions I think than Mark Cuban ever was and I don’t know why that is like I always found it fascinating that that the Dallas Mavericks couldn’t close deals uh to land guys but um maybe just Nico’s a basketball guy and Mark cubin is a funny owner not trying to be jerk but like you know he’s not a basketball guy what yeah it it it it very well could be I I don’t want to minimize Mark cubin too much but there probably is something to be said about Nico um being around the league being around these guys as just guys you know when he was with Nike yeah and he was you know I always I I don’t know what Nico’s title was but the way Nico was introduced to me was he’s Kobe’s guy like his job at Nike is Kobe Bryant like Kobe had Nico uh Lebron had Lyn Merritt like those were that’s what that’s what you had um and anywhere Kobe went there was Nico so Nico established these relationships all throughout the league just by his relationship with Kobe and Nike yeah yeah man and I do think that stuff’s important like that’s agents right that’s why agents are are suddenly becoming general managers agents you don’t have to do math you don’t have to figure out salary cap you got to have relationships you hire somebody to figure out the salary cap you have a numbers guy you get will in there to run the salary cap numbers for you and you just handle the relationship you’re the relationship guy you hire a numbers guy that’s it and that’s yeah that’s easy work so they they they got an opportunity to do a little bit more than maybe yeah uh I originally thought um have they they haven’t been linked to Paul George have they no I haven’t seen that I haven’t seen that wouldn’t be surprised though wouldn’t be surprised what you cooking up what you cooking up they wouldn’t they wouldn’t go for James Hardon would they no I hope not no that would be crazy yeah the Mavs right yeah no they that would be crazy why would you just asking no I’m like yeah like just journalist just if they go for James Harden I’m completely out on them I understand I understand I’ll be right there with you can you imagine in 2024 hey fellas you know what we need on this team we need us some James Harden that would be crazy well it’s not like James Harden’s out of the league next year no but who does that Clippers probably yeah the Clippers definitely bringing them back for him to leave the Clippers I think would be like somebody give him that offer that we that we’re saying is crazy what do you think the Clippers offer James Harden if they do it’s not a Max I feel like that would be insane that would be nuts multi-year deal yeah multi-year deal two two two for 65 two for 70 maybe two for 80 guys guys are playing for 55 now so what are we what are we talking at that point we’re talking uh like 3040 million a year yeah I’m thinking range of 30 to 40 per w personally I wouldn’t do it but the cers like him I think that’s kind of the range you’re a nice GM that’s the market for him where are you going I’m I’m going I’m probably going I mean he’s you’re right though Jesse because my first thought it’s like three three for 90 maybe Paul oh three really well three for 90 that’s not the same because you got him at 30 Jesse had him at around 40 I thought 3240 324 okay okay okay because if Paul George’s not around someone take those shots too man I I feel like it’s goingon to be a two-year deal boy if man I’ll be offended if he gets that much my boy Russell Westbrook out here playing for $5 million and James Harden getting 30 that’s tough Russ playing for three for 15 and Harding getting three for 90 doesn’t isn’t Russ like a Ops Russ is Russ is on the squad next year right like he he’s not a free think he’s on the squad yeah yeah for sure I didn’t think so so yeah dang that’s crazy as I as we talk it out that’s a lot for James but I think he’s gonna get it that’s crazy imagine Paul George leaves and they offer James Harden the max that’s what that’s what I’m saying look that all that is is just open up money for him I’d hate La if that happen if I was Paul George R has a player option for okay so he’s he’s another one dude um he probably surveying the landscape a little bit I never I mean I love my guy I don’t know what it looks like for him so is there I don’t want to say is there where is there play from I I don’t I don’t know yeah I don’t know and and I think it’s in James has talked about this before once you play for that amount it’s hard to it’s hard to go back up like I know he wanted to play in Los Angeles I think playing in Los Angeles is really important to him um I think he genuinely like a lot of guys don’t want to play at home they don’t want to deal with that headache I think Russell Westbrook genuinely loves playing in Los Angeles he loves being at home he loves you know being close to the to the flagship store of his clothing brand he loves being close to his business offices and uh his family being there I think he he loves that um you think he’s the next star from the last generation that retires uh so I was actually just gonna say like he might closer to retirement than I what is he 13 years in the league maybe maybe even more than that he’s a good number of years in the league I remember we did a pocket watching for us that’s did he come in in ‘ 07 or or when did he come in feel like 07 it was before 07 16 17 years Westbrook is 35 years old he uh entered the league as the fourth overall pick in the 2008 NBA draft my man is a nine-time Allstar two time allstar MVP two-time all NBA first team five time all NBA second Team two-time all NBA third team and of course a MVP in the 2017 season chat just reminded me they went Durant then they went Russ and then they went Harden and no rings damn well that’s not fair yes it is come on that’s how we’ll tell the story that’s not fair Fair that’s not fair I mean you know I mean everyone loves prey but at the same time everyone will point to like he he he made a move that he probably didn’t he did he made a move that he had to make he just didn’t have to make it when he did right um and whether they would have won an NBA championship like I I I don’t know James Harden his first year in Houston wasn’t what he was in uh Oklahoma City like the the the makeup of a team is important um I mean you know you get your jokes off about like all three of those guys did wind up winning MVPs it’s just they weren’t going to win the MVPs together that’s Kevin Kevin Durant won his he he was the man Russell Westbrook won his the year after Kevin Durant left James Harden won his in in Houston and that’s the crazy thing about um what pry did man he draft to three straight MVPs three think about that and every but but the tough part so so the the double-edged sword the double-edged sword of that is everyone maximized their potential when they split apart except for one guy who and is I respect James Harden he’s not my favorite but he’s a phenomenal scorer and he’s he’s had like moments in his career you know Russ is one of my favorite athletes of all time but Kevin Durant was the he’s the one like of the three he’s the one and he’s the one who won the you know Russ was there when they won when he won the MVP KD leaves Russ wins his James Harden campaigns for three years and wins his a little hate there’s a little bit of hate he deserved it a little bit of ha call hate it’s a little bit of Truth well is that still hate though that’s my bad that’s my bad J is James James is from LA right yeah yeah okay yeah you everyone has to go back it’s true if you’re from La you have to go play so you’re right you you you you I think Jesse at the Demar de R Roan is going to going to the Clippers he has to it’s just a thing that imagine Amanda Rosen gets the deal Kenny reported three years ago oh my kind of around million or something like two yeah it was like two years 60 3 years 90 something like that it it was the most random number that didn’t make any sense it might been two for 80 in that range the Clippers didn’t have two pennies to spend yeah we were sitting there like wait how’s that even possible I don’t think that’s right that would be Al like why is DeMar de rozan getting this much money that would be one of the greatest moments in show history if Demar de rozan gets the deal from the Clippers that Casey reported we wouldn’t be Young MC anymore we’d be Father MC we have two hit that count it no W for that credit no you get it yeah you get the dub you get the dub if that happens W I want to see that tweet yeah Demar de Roose signing two years 6 milon with the Clippers first reported by keny carway years ago yeah the Clippers had like no money none none absolutely they couldn’t buy lunch much less sign Demar D rozan and I think the best part is we had just talked about it yeah yeah we had just talked about how they had you know no money in Casey look at this and then you’re like wait so no I remember what happened I go who I call out the deal two years 60 million to go to the Clippers I was and you were like oh boy like that’s crazy and then like maybe 10 seconds go by he’s like I have I still haven’t gotten the notification I go ah never mind don’t worry about that KY the origin chatty house Z Zay if you can find that video oh that’s not hard just go to YouTube and it’ll come up on your suggestions it’s got to be like a July 4th July 3rd around there it’s a free agency video it might time though pandemic yeah it was a different off seon yeah you when was when was the NBA Finals that was like September maybe like it was September October or something yeah I was gonna say I feel like it was October yeah because remember the okay wait a minute the league started up in August again late that was the when we started the show The League started up like that week no no no because M Vlad got fired remember Vlad got fired two days before the show started must have started early a so but that was going into the playoffs wasn’t it yeah it must have started early August yeah because it only took him two three weeks all right see Washington come on man okay all right relax will you will you stop you got me L here man come on come on man we gotta report stuff here I’m might to turn his notifications off man got me a little antsy around here ky saw the Washington Wizards and passed out that’s exactly what happened the Washington Wizards and Landry shamut are moving his 11 million guarantee date till July 13 uh the deadline had been Saturday uh the team this time gives the Wizards a chance to explore deal scenarios including the possibility that shemet returns next season but Kenny saw the Kenny saw the Washington Wizards and almost died KD for three there goes Kyrie sh it stupid oh my God Drew Down tagged us in a summary of the chatty house oh this Live Chat is about a discussion regarding possible nepotism issue in the NBA and whether LeBron James actions created this issue or not fans want to hear Shaq and Chris broussard’s opinions on on this matter and whether this is common practice in other sports leagues as well that damn AI that’s terrific they they that is terrific here sh I’m surprised they didn’t get a Jerry Jones in there somebody gotta say Jerry Jones I guess that’s what it is because that’s not a summary of what we’re talking about that’s a summary of what the chat’s talking about correct that’s what yeah that’s what the AI is is what they’re talking about yeah that’s why it’s so crazy well it it it might it’s probably more spot-on than we realize um as it pertains to the chatty out that’s why it’s so damn crazy I’m surprised there isn’t a Michigan Wolverines Five Guys reference in there somewhere I’m I’m uh because that that feels like I I don’t even know how how do you get the because I don’t feel like the AI thing always like pops up I don’t know how they’re getting this to be honest with you maybe it’s maybe it’s chatty house exclusive and and we don’t get to see it this is spectacular me earlier in the in the on the the show that was no you were a visitor here I was about to get in the chat though that was a crazy thing but it didn’t let me I had to sign into Matt George’s YouTube I wasn’t going to do that oh that would have been funny you are a better man than I well it sent a code to his phone oh damn it damn it I was just G ah we’ll just do it anyway we’ll do it live but they were like uh yeah we’re sending this his phone Matt’s like what the hell is going on here oh for goodness sakes um all right let’s see here we’re getting Landry shamut updates it is way too about to say I’m still I’m still kind of shook man I’m still kind it’s way too quiet we are we do W didn’t even need to tweet that like what is does that okay I agree with you it is pretty quiet what is that saying to you or is it saying anything it’s not saying anything it’s not the answer I was looking for it’s not saying anything what do you want me to lie to you it’s not saying anything just it’s exactly what the Devin Carter pck what’s it what’s it saying nothing nothing now the the deal did come about the next day but that deal was one of those more questions than answers thing everyone was left when that deal was executed with more questions about what’s next and that’s kind of where where we’ve been since it was like 10 minutes into the show when that deal dropped that’s where we’ve been since then is what’s next what’s this mean and fiser keeps mentioning the Sacramento Kings um I listen to uh the athletic basketball pile with with Anthony Slater and and and and Sam amck for a few minutes today they’ve they they talked a little bit about the Sacramento Kings um clearly like the the all the the Insiders aren’t referencing the Kings for no reasons like they’re having discussions but them having discussions is nothing new and that’s okay is are are you excited about these conversations thinking the deal is going to close or are you prepared to be heard again I think uh I’m I’m the latter or the former and I don’t know which one’s which I never have the former is first so I’m excited about these conversations former is first the latter is last like who determined that like what does that even mean the English language Mark Twain that’s who Mark Twain created the English language oh Woody Paige my man woody look like he about to run for president come on man do what that’s my man I love Woody Paige Woody some what he paid sometimes what he oh no he’s too young he’s 7 oh he’s 78 sometimes what he paid feels like um like he has good days and bad days as far as like on the show like sometimes he look like oh man I guess that happens when you he like oh yeah man I’m I’m I’m here and then some days it’s like I just want to get back to something did Mark Twain invent the English language I don’t think so oh okay I don’t know we talking about we we talking about former and latter I mean he might have maybe now is that lur like L A TT e r or lad TT like TT TT situated or occurring nearer to the end of something than the beginning who determined that the ladder all right dude I need a break this is ridiculous more Mark Twain when we come back here on KC I mentioned uh Russell Westbrook uh is one of my favorite athletes of all time well my favorite athlete of all time is going into his team’s Hall of Fame tomorrow and I’m tapping in for that we’ll talk about it here on I’m sorry I didn’t mean to mess up the teth they’re also something that I think is really cool that I don’t know if Dam’s gonna like well that got my attention that’s next on ESPN 1320 no 13th round but we can talk about Tif Fimo or is Floyd likes to call him Tel aimo Lopez his fight this week against Steve clanger or something like that TL should win but he he needs to look better than he did uh the last time he fought that was not okay sorry I’m just trying to trying to celebrate my boy real quick man Allstar season came to an end he did a great job okay Drew down let’s talk uh UFC 303 let’s go that’s it that’s all I have I I ain’t got nothing else I don’t know what else going on here I don’t know these guys I’m sure I’m sure all the UFC people will enjoy the night though they always do that that’s the thing that always gets me uh when it comes to like this UFC stuff is like oh I don’t that oh there we go hold on hold on on I I think I like that um is like be talking about the UFC and stuff like that and it’s like all right it’s cool like I like what you like it’s good it’s good but they get so upset if somebody likes boxing what are you guys talking about bro it’s all good is Dr Davis shout out Faith doing her thing yeah yeah big Up’s Faith man MVP or Ian Gary there’s only one MVP I know oh no that was uh RVD sorry oh I do know an MVP too MVP too yeah MVP was a wrestler is a wrestler uh um you know what I don’t I don’t think so uh Michigan um not unless the wife goes cuz I’m like that’s what we do we watch Boxing and my mom watches tank too so I don’t think I I I wouldn’t leave yeah she’s that’s her boy I gotta get home and watch the fight man your two sons are out here hosting a big event yeah I gotta go home and watch the fight August 3D Zeo oh yeah yeah August third that fight that fight car gonna be crazy I’m trying not to hit the wall I just I need spol yeah where the hell she what what wait what did you just say well is should be excuse me it should be was out there me to do false alarm but D I gota get Kimberly in here too so everybody still here well yeah she I think she was out doing something and I as I was running out I I let her back in oh my goodness that actually wasn’t that bad that wasn’t that bad at all I do love the idea of close your ears though it’s so okay hold on whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa the hell were you teasing before the commercial break I thought I saw I saw something I was like that’s pretty cool I was like I should bring it up on the show but then I was like I might be a oneman wolf pack on this show thinking this was pretty cool all right you to talk Drake Well he would definitely be got a new track out man with he did ass you don’t like that type of music I don’t it was it the whatever the record was probably for its intended audience um the middle school girls at Whitney High School they’ll love it no it it’s a pop track right uh uh uh what’s Camila Cabello yeah that’s who she’s talking to no wrong with that he came on sang his little part and kept it going it’s whatever it’s your boy whatever to talk about Kendrick doing a song with Taylor Swift and you out here doing that but hey it’s cool it’s good it’s good fact check that Kenny well we already fact check what that means when you got first came out said how could he say that I was like this point hold on I didn’t don’t do don’t do don’t do that don’t do that don’t do that his point was he’s don’t over exaggerate me while I’m sitting here don’t do that no man so um I don’t know man I I saw a clip on the on the internet of uh don Staley reacting to a play last night I thought it was pretty cool okay did you see the clip no I didn’t was this was this a Asia uh play Asia black uh uh my girl card oh oh goodness and but so she was she was watch like she was filming like maybe she was on live or something like that and she’s like yeah sitting here watching my girls play or with they’re watching the game and like as that H as she’s filming Asia blocks her shot and she’s like hey hey don’t do that to Camelo don’t do that to Camella I thought it was pretty but look it wasn’t stay cuz look she was watching it when it happened what no I saw it the game and that’s what happened what do you think Dow okay dude he’s not buying it okay you’re right yeah you are you’re right you’re you’re you’re alone on this they wants none of that now like what all right I thought it was a cool moment what thought it was she her two or two two of her former former uh players go at it that’s right in a in a real live moment you know Asia blocks you know Camella she reacted all right bro was a good moment that paid off when you when when yeah when are you getting your Dawn Staley Jersey you you going to get a comments one a USA one look I get a I get a Don Staley one The Sting joint I would get a a Carol awson Monarch’s Jersey don’t do that don’t do that well probably G uh okay bro um what is this that was so fake you’re a little goof all right never mind time okay yeah don’t do that it happened real are you sure when when did the Tweet go out well I don’t I don’t well I think she was on thing but she’s she’s sitting there saying oh yeah man I’m just chilling out watching the game and the block happens in real time play one more time you can hear her you can hear her hold on hold on let’s do this the right way she’s just like yeah you know I’m just watching the game oh no hey don’t do that to Camella I should have known when you had that stupid look on your face what this was about I should have known it’s my fault for going through the whole commercial break and not knowing hold up they make this a little bit more diff there we go all right she’s just watching the game having a watch part on we oh Cam oh no don’t do that to camil do not do that to Camila i’mna fight i’mna fight i’mna fight i’mna fight game is on look see the game is on she’s about to say something and she said oh no I think I’m with Dame there was like one too many little punches at the end all right we get it leave my girl down alone manw Drew Drew speaking the truth find you someone that loves you like Casey loves Don I love Don stale I know I like a lot of Co we all know we all know how much you love Don Staley love the real Coach K come on now my Tex just came through sorry gave your all-star game tickets away that’s not true um well that was that was casy’s favorite athlete of all time last night on Instagram live and uh the guy who I’ve always said is my favorite athlete of all time is going into the Kansas City Royals Hall of Fame tomorrow and that’s Bo Jackson shout out Bo Jackson Bo Jackson is prob probably the reason I love sports um even more so than even probably even more so than Michael Jordan like I remember the first professional athlete that I loved it was Bo Jackson and watching him with the Raiders and and I was I remember being so happy when he signed with the Chicago White Socks because I could watch them on WGN cuz my grand Grand grandparents had cable and they lived like down the street so I could just walk over and watch with like when the Red Sox playing I remember watching the game I remember being so excited for Bose’s return and he he hits a home run that night like I’ll never forget watching that wearing that number eight uh I you know we couldn’t afford like the real Jersey but I got the knockoff yeah you know basketball jersey or the the knockoff baseball jersey with the number eight on it had my Chicago wh socks hat all of that all because of Bo Jackson he was I had Raiders gear as a shoot I had Raiders gear because of Bo Jackson did you uh you watch the cartoon right Pro Stars yeah Pro absolutely Pro Stars Absolut Pro star came on right after kid play didn’t it or right before or something like that yeah I absolutely watched Pro Stars I always find it funny with those shows that the person wasn’t the voice right like they’d get a voice actor to play Bo Jackson like like they uh uh Uncle Phil was the Junkyard Dog on Hulk Hogan’s Rock and wrestling now see I never knew that yeah Uncle pH Phil was a voice Uncle Phil was uh yeah he was the voice of the Junkyard Dog wow on I bet I bet I’ll find the clip I bet if I play for you you’d hear Uncle Phil now probably won’t hear anything but Uncle Phil I never knew that though yeah that’s pretty cool well uh Hulk Hogan was he’s famous he’s not he’s not my bad uh I think his name is Brad Garrett maybe he was on Everybody Loves Raymond and admittedly I’ve never seen an episode of that show me neither but I think he was the big dude on the show and not not the not the big start the like like stature wise he was the voice of Hulk Hogan there were some famous people on that I never even thought about that how the the the people weren’t the voice I don’t know who did I don’t know who did the voices for bow and Wayne Gretzky and I used to love those cartoons though K play and um and what you know though in the Pro Stars what you know about proar Cal yeah they had a seral um based off the uh obviously the cartoon that that was a time that was a time that so so Bo Jackson Bo Jackson isn’t in any of the hall of fames huh no that’s C that’s that’s one of those guys that we we like what if we have those well not even what if but like like um definitely what if like for sure but uh how we try to tell Like Jesse like how do we explain this how do we explain what Bo Jackson like Jesse do you think you understand like what Bo Jackson was yeah I do but I don’t know if like people are younger than me will like my younger brother and stuff he’s four years younger I don’t know if like he fully does like that there there’s people like Damian and they’re not necessarily wrong but like y That’s the greatest athlete I’ve ever seen in my life they like well okay well what records did he break what no he’s not in well see that’s how I feel about it like like you can go back and see how good he was like from what people talk about it like from as good as he was in football and baseball I think it’s fair to assume yeah and but and and there’s a point where the uh we talk about LeBron and stuff like that LeBron never want to go play football and stuff I that’s where it’s like different yeah there’s a point where like someone like the longevity will come into play and you have to look at guys who did it longer did it at a higher level and all of these different things and and broke records and all of that stuff but for me and and part of this is probably just being tied you know to my childhood and my Grandpa and all of that stuff Bo will probably be my favorite athlete of all time like over Jordan and LeBron and Russ and all of those guys that I love now like it’ll probably always be Bo Jackson I remember being was probably 12 getting the bon no bow book like reading a dick shap book like what what dick dick was the man though oh he was he was the one absolutely I knew who he was because of that book uh but yeah I love I love some Bo Jackson we’re going to have to pull up some Pro Stars video but um the junkyard five the name of this episode of Hulk Hogan’s rocking wrestling USA Network that’s that’s Uncle Phil I don’t know why they made the junkyard dog sound like that well yeah or whatever first of all I don’t know why he was the Junkyard Dog that start there that was his that was his now maybe you can’t really hear that it’s Uncle Phil but it’s definitely Uncle pH no I I heard I heard Uncle Phil yeah but but also because you told me I don’t know if I would have heard it if you didn’t you didn’t tell me um yeah man Bo Jackson shout out to him going into h of Fame I I read some his highlights are still just phenomenal to watch uh let’s let’s all hold up one second oh yeah come on man this this this this gon this gonna hit you right in the fields this gonna hit you right in the fields here God bless it that’s awesome what the hell is that um well is that a a turtle it all right ocean hero all right let’s save him and it’s that’s probably what it is is no yeah it’s fine just save them and I don’t know why that was the next that’s a that’s a ad yeah it’s just a turtle going swimming that’s all it is save the turtles little baby turtles I don’t like I don’t like don’t I don’t like the way you guys are saying that I said it normal save them why’ your voice just go up then because you’re accusing me of not I’m with the turtles all right Jesse’s on team turtles yeah man but Bo Bo is just one of those guys like oh yeah they they’ve I mean and let’s be you know let’s be let’s be honest there weren’t a ton of episodes of Pro Stars feels like there were no I don’t think there were um I think you could watch them all on YouTube kid play on I’m sure I bet I bet I bet there is play that that bo bo was uh somebody that tweeted out I wish I would have kept it come on man YouTube YouTube got everything it really does come on man YouTube got everything I would let me I I I we are we are we are walking a dangerous line we’re walking a dangerous line we’re getting no money for this video well no I was going to that’s not what I meant we’re walking a dangerous line by putting kid and play on the screen while we’re on the screen at the same time hey oh yeah hey hey hey that is fire waxing videos come on here we go all cartoons are magnificent it’s funny that we’re talking about Jackson and we play this they’re probably along that lines of like Jesse or other they don’t realize how big of stars they were Kid and Play yeah yeah that that tracks for like what would you say three years yeah 80 yeah like 90 wasn’t that the story they were headlining the NWA uh tour is that who was headlining it Kid and Play headline in NWA one of them one of them gangster rap uh that might be right tours they were opening for Kid and Play yeah that might be right yeah I do not look like kid y’all need to stop this I do not look like kid well yeah like look they had a cartoon like they had house party like now I was like oh that’s kid and play and stuff like that yeah and they only had I mean rolling with kid and play and two hype were the biggest records They had they had ain’t going to hurt nobody and like the house party joints but um to me that was like that was that was it I I don’t remember their music like that I remember yeah like their music outside of the movies I don’t remember the music like that the mo the whatever they had in house party in House Party 2 that’s that’s the and ain’t gonna hurt nobody like the soundtrack was crazy uh that’s what I remember from them not like anything outside of those two movies oh no I knew I knew I knew rolling with kid and play um but I loved house party oh oh yeah those records weren’t even in house party yeah those ones weren’t even in the movies maybe know ain’t GNA hurt nobody is they performed it in in the dorm in the pajama Jammy jam and then and we always we always go down this rapid hole we talk get play but Class Act love that movie love that movie so I’ll throw y’all on uh oh they might not this actually might not be on YouTube uh oh we just start we just gave YouTube a bunch of love I’m trying to find the very first time Will Smith The Fresh Prince I think Fresh Prince came I think Will Smith came out a gospel song this morning oh really yeah that he’s going to perform at the uh I hope not I hope that’s not what we’re doing um I’m not sure if this is it but the very first time Will Smith was ever on camera was on the pilot episode of yoom TV WS wow was it him and Jazzy Jeff okay yep wow yeah was him and Jazzy Jeff I’m not sure that it’s on here and if it might take me a little too long to find but yeah I Love Will Smith too he’s gonna perform that possibly I hope I hope yeah like I hope not the they were like oh new music from Wills like no no no no no no no no cuz I thought he did the joint on Bad Boys and it’s like all right like r or die like all right that’s okay yeah and then do summertime and you know maybe you know Numero Uno or parents just on whatever yeah men and black but we don’t need to w h no we’re going straight unless unless Drew Hill or unless Drew Hill or Stevie Wonder are gonna be on stage I’d probably pass on that one but if Drew Hill is there he could do the willennium oh the Willen celebrate the year 2000 in 2024 he do Miami yeah he could do Miami absolutely yeah shout out boss man uh oh no it’s not Bossman X is uh old boy he he sample Miami plug he was on the he’s on the double XXL freshman class but um uh what was I gonna say oh did you did you know they’re doing a uh Usher like tribute like he’s getting the Lifetime Achievement Award and you know when they do that BT the people got to perform MH they’re like Usher songs and they were trying to figure out like who who would you trust who would you want to perform some of these Usher songs and it’s tough it’s tough I don’t I don’t know who who might do it I I’ve heard genuine I’ve heard Tyrese I’ve heard jacquis I’ve heard a couple different other people but Usher that’s tough yeah that’s a that’s a that’s a tough one to reenact uh BET Awards on Sunday show should be fun though always it should definitely be fun uh lost in your nonsense that started this segment uh Asia continues her MVP season she had 31- six last night the acce of Aces by the way have won three straight all since Chelsea Gray has come back they’re getting back to normal and then Angel ree finished with 18 and 11 significant because it’s her ninth straight double double uh she is Angel sabonis here at this point uh in the W she ties Candace Parker for the most consecutive double doubles in a season Candace is actually wound up stretching three more games over the course of two seasons in her longest run Candace love if angel sabonis and a double double straight Candace love that’s it yeah Candace love for sure uh her record is 12 straight over or the record is 12 straight over two seasons so uh those two put on a a special a special performance last night again the aces get the dub uh 18 and 11 I’m just GNA keep saying till it’s not true that girl’s touch is still not there I was still wrong about her and the second she finds that touch she’s going to be one of the most unique players in the entire league what what um what kind of let’s just you know she finds a touch she gets her legs under which all these young rookies are starting to get their legs under him yeah um what who would you compare her to in the in the NBA would it be sabonis it’s not that far off it might be dominant rebounder kind of stays I’m trying to think of a I’m trying to think of a player who cuz domas like who’s like physical who is Scrappy like will who could beat you to every loose ball um Devon Carter well well uh I mean sabonis is sabonis isn’t isn’t a bad example like or isn’t isn’t a bad comp I’m trying to think of someone like is comparing her rebounding man she doesn’t pass likeon so I I don’t want to do too much is comparing her rebound to Dennis Rodman like out of pocket I don’t think like Dennis Dennis like he always got himself in the right position and if he wasn’t in the right position he would he would find a way to get his hand on the ball somehow I feel like that’s what Angel does that’s not bad that’s not that’s not bad at all she’s already better she’s already a better scorer than Dennis ever was which is why the comp might be closer to to domas I just feel like domas is a is a bit of a more graceful rebounder yeah like he gets a lot of rebounds like right under the rim that come off gets like she is attacking the basketball and that’s what Dennis used to Kyle Kyle continu in the Matthews mattress chatty house continues to say Joe Kim Noah oh that’s not bad at all at all yeah that’s not bad at all that’s that’s a good one Kyle let’s get Ramsay in here um just right is alley 91699 1320 what’s up Ramsey I I when you started talking about Bo Jackson I just got to thinking about how parallel Bo Jackson is to another former white sock in Frank Thomas how they both went to Auburn both played both played baseball and football I mean Frank Thomas follow because he was a few years younger than him and then they both ended up on the white sock playing together in the 93 and9 Four Season when it when it was uh Frank Thomas’s MVP years yeah when he won MVP with the white socks and it was just like those two together how they finally met up and had a chance to be teammates it just let ended up being parallel and just how their careers took they took two different paths but but their professional careers and college careers were extremely extremely parallel and on a similar path that’s a good call man I was always a big fan of Frank town because of O Jackson because that’s where I I was I was I know this is hard to believe in I was locked into wh Weiss Sox gam well you know I was watching baseball you know what also helped for for me was uh they both had shoes yeah I used to want them Bo Jackson orange joints so bad did did you ever get any you guys no I never did right now know I never did get right now I can point you in a direction right now I’m sure you can because you’re connected like that we come back the internet well I can’t P like the prices that you pay for your shoes I can’t stop it stop I can’t afford it’s steo and Casey uh we’ve got man come on bro what are we talking about cspn 1320 Z says I can hear the no AC running I gotta be honest I thought I thought I thought uh Ramsey was coming in with the w Bo Jackson gets the people going I like it I like it Kid and Play is in your town you gotta keep rocking to The Go Go sound you gotta see smackdowns at MSG today oh is it really yeah they got like 18,000 I think sold out or something like that oh I didn’t know that man smackdown’s been fire lately I am not wearing the Dior ones man I think I’ve born those maybe three times oh that’s fire oh that is dope that is dope right there Jeremy good stuff um that’s the true I I don’t think he bought it I think Drake gave it to him but I feel you I feel you appreciate you Tyler thank you my man oh yeah happy ass Ramsay with 112 degre temperatures love it love it I can’t imagine I can’t imagine what happy ass Ramsay would sound like I can’t imagine happy ass ramsy actually being a thing like Katrina when y’all go to comedy shows does Ramsay laugh like audibly or does he just does he does he smile I don’t even think I’ve seen Ramsey smile well that that’s possible I feel like baseball makes Ramsay Happy Well Andrew that could happen with James out of with James out of of town I I was just thinking oh man we we need a tweet to come through all right Ramsey okay confirmation from everyone involved that Ramsey does actually laugh I’m with it I’m with it those asking about Mitch Mitch is okay’s he’s okay yeah he knows he knows de it’s all right he’s okay maybe after the our our little holiday break Mitch will be oh Ramsay is a delight to talk to Drew down as is Katrina wonderful people this whole crew in here is fire it’s dope because with the exception of Tim Richards who just seems to hate me for some reason um I feel like we just do the show we do this show every day with like our people just like our homies tapped in talk Kings talk Bo Jackson talk happy ass Ramsey happy ass lazyy make Five Guys jokes about Michigan Wolverines Just Vibe out uh DLo did your grandpa enjoy watching wrestling with you uh no he did not enjoy wrestling but he always fed my habit of it and when um WWF used to be at Arco one regularly he was the one who would take me he he took me almost because it it feels like WWE would be here with a house show like once a month that’s what it felt like as a kid but maybe I’m sure it wasn’t that much um and he took me to a ton of them a ton of them oh man it’s actually so crazy Z I got to look it up get a get a pen and paper ready um this is a shoot this is how you spell it hang on it is c a e l l i g h that’s a shoot look look at you hi you look magnificent I don’t I tired you look terrific this is the best you’ve looked in maybe ever that’s really rude no like it’s so rude this is like just exceptional I told you you look stunning either this one or they’re DLo and Casey is you know the blackish one oh man that’s it I kind of really like that one scoot over this way there you go because otherwise it was just yeah hang on I P my okay yeah I’m really glad you scoot it over to do that that that would have wow okay so hang on we’re coming back we’re coming back okay don’t no no but so we we we we found Kim Kimberly is here been looking for it all day we we’ really asked it was like 1205 that Kenny posed this question we’ve been trying to figure out uh we didn’t think the tribal Chief could answer it for us and Stacy’s not here and I don’t know if you could answer it do we have black jobs I saw that was that on Tik Tok no that was on the presidential debate oh was it yeah okay all right I couldn’t watch that gibberish I mean honestly from both sides let’s be real okay okay I won’t get into that anyways I’m here no we don’t this isn’t a black job this is not a black job okay I was just at I don’t know how we we hav it’s literally the only black people like we’re the only black people SPS 1025 that’s not it’s not not really I know do you have a black job no I don’t have a black job oh so we just out here working for the man damn I’s the only one that come on man yeah come on man okay Drew Down Tik Tok is she 12 I love Tik Tok and let’s not get into this discussion it is the greatest app ever it’s oh no yes it is she’s she’s popping off at the chat it’s I hope she don’t C can you make those like bigger so I can really it’s all it’s all downhill chat going to get shut down like 957 again man I tell you you really oh my gosh Von showed me what some stickers that you guys made or someone made them yeah no the chatty House made them we have them he said he’s coming up here so well come on Bonte we ready for you come hang out oh my gosh are you just sitting there reading I am says a lot about you really okay all right really can we block him go back to work no I am working no no I’m working my black job block him seriously she’s been in here I’m like starting to sweat now she’s been she’s been in here two minutes you she wants to block people from do something about it block him get him a day one he’s got love oh well his day is over bye God good Lord okay you’re it’s okay okay I have to go because guess what we’re getting ready for field day the same day that it’s still yeah I heard I heard indoors don’t worry people we going to Rocking Jump no we’re not 12 where we going 12 um I’m not saying it wa don’t would you act like we’re a bunch of crazy people out there like what you mean nobody checking for us up the invite no oh what oh no bro are you serious that where the picnic was though I don’t know yeah picnic isn’t p i I forgot okay this is dumb oh my God wait wait wait wait how far are we driving for this hella far yeah I’m we driving hell we went from going a half mile are you concerned about gas you do too I did not bring you in here to be scolded anyways to block I I left Justine alone I can’t believe Stacy fold at all cuz Mickey said someone might die hi careful careful all right goodbye bye that’s Kim on the next episode of life and hesty she wanted the chat block she I saw her eyes zoom in on that chat I was like oh my God it’s over Drew Drew got her what Drew Drew got a lot about you what oh I’m crying I am crying that was an all time that was an all Kim Kim hey Kim delivers on her uh appearances on the show oh she ain’t it’s never been like ah that was kind of a weak Kim appearance like n she delivers and that might have been one of her best and all of that was happening as they asked me to spell Kelly for him because he found the video of Kelly’s kids oh snap and I had to spell it like I don’t even know if he he got that can I can I spell it on here should I do you think you can no I’m I want to try but should I is it okay I I don’t see why it wouldn’t be I’m gonna go see we out Rich’s email on this show we’re fine no that’s true go ahead I’mma go c a l i e nope nope nope okay wa let me try nope c c a a i l d see yeah you’re missing one I don’t think you’re going to get it I’ll give you three more chance yeah you won’t get it you’re not going to get it c a e okay l i e n what the hell nope it’s c a e l l i g h no human being on the planet named Kelly spells her name like that except for her let’s go are you sure Kelly who did this I think Kell Kelly was here earlier I was talking to her earlier I know she’s oh man she’s probably not I think ever been on the show the kids she’s has she has been in here with the kids before like she’s I’m sure she’s been on camera before boy Zay found that video with the kids that’ll be that’s hey Zay we’ve got a I don’t know this for sure I think Stacy’s feelings might have been a little hurt like I’m not 100% positive said whatever he just said one word cute right yeah I think Stacy’s feelings were hurt a little stupid ass video and then when Aaron when Aaron described how he felt when he was watching it he got mad when he saw comp all that Goodwill we built up is just gone now no no it’s CA we because because he was like when I saw complex I was like oh come on complex but then they finally there I was at the end and like I said Z did a phenomenal job because that uh Aon sitting there like oh that’s a that is a great steal like that’s a great cut that he got right there oh poor z z went through look through 40 hours T and Casey Jesus to try to find Stacy if Stacy were here I would just call her in and we’d get her in here today but I don’t think she’s here I think I know where well Z might have looked at but she was on around the start of the season was she on the day she wore the dearon fox Jersey she wasn’t on the show that day right because I could look at the day of the picture yeah but I don’t think she was on the show that day I remember we called her in a different day I don’t think so I don’t think so either I think remember did she wear the shoes because that’s what got her on she had some shoes on she was like see look look at my shoes now I don’t think that was the day she wore the jersey so Theo was was the um the opening the home opener that was that day okay I want to say October 27th or something like that okay well he said he looked through all the it’s good Z you’re good bro you didn’t find it don’t worry yeah you don’t have to go through another month you know what take the rest of the day and the weekend off Z gonna come home find out Jasmine moved out like look I can’t deal with you anymore and stupid videos I’m out of here po the poor guy l through all poor Z has seen every minute of dowlo and Casey of the last four years and the last four days trying to put this video together Z would be like our stum to Schwab for DLo and casy we’ll we’ll get we’ll get um we’ll get Stacy in here just so we can get her on camera and Z can update the video because definitely got the little hurt feelings we’ll call that the Super Fan intro there it is super oh man James isn’t here we got that’s that’s good we have an hour to have some fun not that James isn’t Fun and we’re keep we keep uh lowkey trying to stall for somebody to do something no one’s doing anything I don’t think anything’s happening today it it got really really quiet that means A lot’s gonna happen over the next two now I think that that’s true it’s just how much of that involves the Sacramento Kings do we come back Monday and the biggest thing we’re talking about is they gave the ml to someone might be it’s possible Nick Marshall or na Marshall who I like as a ball player but well Tyler’s mentioning our worst nightmare news breaks at 403 well Mike Brown did uh sign sign his contract at what like8 o’clock at night which I’m fine with I’m fine it once we get like over like two hours I’m fine if it’s within the hour yeah then I’m upset yeah then I’m upset like cuz y’all already knew like what took so long man I but I also I’m also trying I know this doesn’t it’s it is six o’clock Eastern time you know what I mean so I I do try to like keep that stuff in Mind by the time we sun off it’s 7 o’clock Eastern time um what are we really doing I’m not sure it’s not like guys say hey we’ll see you Monday I headed to the Poconos Michel Bridges was probably like 10 o’clock Eastern yeah that’s that’s a shoot yep and then and go central time then Houston did everything they started doing everything they could they thought they had a chance still don’t understand why Kevin Durant was referenced that night but sure enough he was let me ask ask everyone something obviously both of you do you trust Mony McNair yes trust them to try okay it’s been a lot of kosas and Lavin and cam Johnson and whatever you went throw before like I trust them to try and be active but I don’t know if they get it done there’s only there’s only been I don’t want to say there’s only been we’re kind of talking about one season where he didn’t get it done this past season we’re throwing out the first one don’t have the first one that’s fair that’s fine he had the job for six minutes and had to go sign Glenn Robinson he got the sabonis deal done he got The Herder deal done you know he he he helped well he he got a he got Malik got Malik I was just thinking T but yes signing a well uh herder oh herder was a trade you’re right sorry herder was a trade yeah so but that was a and that was a offseason trade that wasn’t a trade deadline trade that was an offseason trade yep I don’t know how much it is to do like with Monty D too or the fact that like they missed playoffs and all their picks got tied up because I’m not sure like how much value right now the 2027 pick has like maybe Washington loves it or whatever but we just saw someone traded for the 2031 yeah yeah circumstance like maybe Washington loves that pick or whatever like the spsh probably needed a cut salary or whatever I don’t know why they did that deal but Washington said give me that joint in 2031 or whoever who who got oh po pop got it yeah yeah pop got it yeah I’ve got it the memes were pretty funny they had pop they had pop scouting like six-year olds ah it was it was it was funny yeah I I think just go back to it this is just my feeling it’s just how I feel just little Vibes I’m getting he’s he’s got probably like two or three Deals on the table that he he’s very confident he can get done and they’re just trying to figure out which direction they want to not saying they’re a done deal the deals can be pulled off the table at any moment you know how things go but I think he’s looking at at least two probably three scenarios he can go with and correct me if I’m wrong figure it out that line of thinking comes from this paragraph from Jake Fisher one team to monitor for Ingram would be Sacramento the Kings have been weighing paths to acquire various Wings sources said from Kyle kosma to Zack LaVine and Ingram could be another option for Sacramento to explore sources said the Kings have veteran Wings Harrison Barnes and Kevin herder whom Sacramento placed on the trade market last deadline and their two salaries combined for almost a perfect match to meet Ingram’s $36 million expiring number for the 24 425 season Once once again I could be 100% wrong I could be just just too optimistic or whatever but isn’t that a pretty specific wording right there Wayne pass no to me it just sounds like they’re exploring avenues for different really exploring ways it’s all the same stuff the it’s all the same means you’ve got things in front of you I don’t I don’t think that’s what it means he didn’t say there’s weigh his options like he’s we his path obviously like M supposed to walk that path this can I also point you have a path you’re at the road where you can go this way this way this way this way you have all this stuff in front of you it doesn’t mean those roads can’t dead end yeah that’s the thing like I think he’s working towards it but I don’t think I don’t think like there’s three trades it’s like all right fellas what are we doing I yeah you could be walk you could take a path and be walking to Nowhere yeah you could be it could be I don’t know that’s pretty specific to me hey well dog do something then yeah pick one today right now what what what what don’t you know yet so not you no what don’t you know yet this could be the case like like we talked about you’ve got LaVine in your back pocket you’ve got that for now yeah but you’re pretty pretty confident you’re not losing that who’s comeing like you’re bidding against yourself there’s there’s nobody else there you you have that in your back pocket you talk you had some really extensive talks with kman you guys are right there or excuse me with the Washington Wizards you were right there draft came and went who knows if the 13 was even part of the deal it’s like H it’s reconvene after the draft reconvene then you know this Ingram stuff is like you you you’re trying to figure out which which which way you really want to like get after it it you’ve got some ways that you can go you and and and I think Monty is confident that if he really like hones in on a deal he can close one of a B I see that man’s wearing this path the same way like whoever else is interested in like cam Johnson those guys are I don’t think I don’t think like they have anything set or I think they’re just negotiating maybe at this point well I don’t think like close I also but the other reason I feel that way too is I also think like the the every every move this week has been pretty specific it feels like I got the I got the AI chat oh man these guys I’m sorry oh it’s got let me gu they talking about they talking about kid play no oh no this is the this screenshot too in the Discord is crazy the chat is about a live TV personality named Kim who who is currently intoxicated oh no oh wait a minute who is currently intoxicated and stumbling during a live taping of the show the chat the chat is expressing amusement and concern over her behavior with many urging her to change her shirt and sober up bro this is episode about Meredith bro that is ridiculous let Kim live oh that’s amazing oh that is incredible oh AI that is amazing I point something else out I I I this this caught my attention earlier when we were looking at this line from z uh uh Jake fiser but I I I didn’t pursue the the research until now the Kings have veteran Wings Harrison Barnes Kevin herder uh blah blah blah blah blah their two salaries combined for almost a perfect match to meet Ingram’s $36 million expiring um next year he’s right okay am I the the rules have changed so if if I’m wrong like help me out it doesn’t have to match perfectly I think it’s like within a certain percentage 70 80% I think think it’s 80% so I was going back to something you brought up earlier where we we’re we we were we were trying to come up with a way for the Kings to land if especially if it’s Ingram for the Kings to land multiple players particularly like cam Johnson that way you have a little you know it’s it’s not the cushiest pillow if Brandon Ingram leaves but it it it it doesn’t catch you completely off guard if Brandon Ingram winds up not resigning and part of that would be kind of how how you navigate your remaining tradable assets and it it’s important to point out while Jake fiser is 100% accurate and that the contracts do match up they don’t have to match up perfectly and that’s just quirk in the collective bargaining agreement they need to breach a certain percentage but it doesn’t have to be 36 for 36 in this scenario I think there are scenarios where it does and I think that’s more of like apron teams maybe second apron team I think there’s scenarios where it has to match dollar for dooll but the Kings nor the Pelicans uh are are and the Pelicans wouldn’t be in that or that situation or rephrase that the Kings wouldn’t be in that situation they’re not even approaching those types of numbers right do you think the Kings need to get a third team involved in like the Baner Ingram stuff because why would the Pelicans take Barnes and herder and pics well okay okay I don’t mean to be why would anybody well that’s what I’m saying like you’re gonna need to get third team involved so let’s let’s that’s kind of just why like I’m just not sure anything happens I don’t I don’t know who needs hey I I don’t know who goes hey I I need a really solid Wing good Locker or a really solid uh Wing locker room guy who will play 82 games I don’t know if those discussions are had let’s not like herder doesn’t suck like at all I don’t think he suck I’m not saying that but like if you’re the Pelicans you’re looking to win now I’m assuming if you’re training Brandon Ingram like you’re looking for maybe like a Darius Garland type I don’t think I think if you trade for herder and Barnes you get worse herder so there’s a couple things going on number one herder would be your starting shooting guard if you’re the Pelicans CJ MC start at the point the other thing about this that that brings Brandon Ingram and the Pelicans back down to earth is you have to find somebody that’s willing to take a chance that they might lose Brandon Ingram and the Cavs may not be will if Garland and Jared Allen are available they may be able to get somebody with like with a with a larger contract with a with years on the contract if Brandon ing if Brandon Ingram is talking to Cleveland and you know or you know they’re not supposed to but if there’s conversation and they would never they would never if there’s conversation somehow going on where they’re like hey man we might be able to explore this trade what do you think about uh resigning with with us you know if we if we can get you MH I don’t know maybe we’ll see I want to play the year out I don’t know if they give up Garland and and Jared Allen for that for a maybe because oh yeah yeah for sure so they they may be able to get like and this this the whole point like especially garland that because you talk about biggest assets their biggest P that’s their biggest piece you can get somebody that’s already locked in you could get Kyle kma maybe or something like that in that situation potentially a guy like that so like why would they want Barnes or herder or something like that in picks is because the market may not be as strong as they they anticipated there’s already the picks are probably the most important there’s all like and that’s aside from there are questions about Brandon Ingram like some of them don’t look at him some teams don’t look at him as as the type of guy that’s gonna get paid what he wants to get paid they me I don’t know bro he’s nice he’s cool but I don’t know know and the Kings may be the one team desperate may not be the word but that might be the team that is willing to take a chance on the one year and give you something that could help you like what do who do you think is in the market for like well Fischer he had those teams and that doesn’t mean it’s set in stone or he’s 100% correct for Brandon Ingram it was Sacramento Atlanta Cleveland and Philly okay yeah Philly has nothing to give you back right if you’re in New Orleans I don’t even know how that I don’t understand how that happens Atlanta the jeon Murray maybe that works maybe that works um Clint Capell does that like like yeah that works in the trade machine does that like is that what New Orleans is looking for that’s I think I was thinking more so just Personnel wise like he’d be your starting shooting guard gives you some defense that works that works maybe you know um yeah but that I mean those four teams you gotta weigh out who who’s really also thirsty enough to to give a better trade proposal without any guarantee of him resigning and you know you could get the cakam Pacers wink wink um could it just it might not be the ACO it could be to Atlanta it could be to Cleveland um you know there given the concerns about Brandon Ingram it’s not impossible all four of these teams attempt to execute a trade for Brandon Ingram with the idea of just getting him there and let’s kind of see how the year goes pal and I think I it would I what what I would be interested in finding out is if the idea of trading for Brandon Ingram without a all all of them being interested in trading for Brandon Ingram without a contract extension if that lowers his value because if you’re the Pelicans and you’re having conversations with the Hawks and the Hawks are like we don’t really need a guarantee we’re we’re trying to get something done this year we’re not we we we you know there’s a scenario we’d absolutely love to have Brandon Ingram here for the next four years five years seven years uh we just want to get him in here and see how this works Philly says the same thing Sacramento says the same thing doesn’t that lower his trade value a little bit because no one’s doing the part of what part of the reasons the Pacers offer for the SE yakum was so big was because they they knew they had him for four years and that was their and and credit to them that was their move yeah they were like we’re going to get Tyrese’s running mate right and now we have the two pillars of our franchise and we’re working everything we’re doing now we’re working from there does it and they knew that going in let me ask you a question does it benefit Brandon Ingram to tell anybody that he would resign there I’m I’m just asking like what what are thees maybe maybe if it’s a place that you w to go you could say look I want to come here I will we have the week wink like just do the deal because because I’ll be here does it benefit him to do that is that what you’re yeah uh only if like he wants to play there right right it probably benefits the Pelicans more than anyone else and if he’s got four places right now let’s just go by the report I don’t know how true I’m just saying if he’s got four places that he’s not crazy the Warriors swooping Jack Chris Paul for Brandon Ingram all right dude if he’s got if he’s got four places that he’s not like crazy about resigning to why would he tell any of them that yeah for sure I’ll resign um and then they’re all dealing with the whole possibility of yeah I don’t know I don’t know I don’t know if he’s gonna stay or not yeah I don’t know that that does anything for him I think the only people that that helps is the Pelicans because the Pelicans can say you’re not trading for a guy for a year you’re trading for a guy for four or five or whatever you guys are going to work out but you’re trading for if you’re uh Atlanta you’re trading for Trey Young’s running mate right moving forward and and and I only bring that up because he could just be like I don’t hate Sacramento but have to be a free agent I probably want to why why close off my options technically you’re not but usually if they give you the wink wink they don’t go back on them both sides um yeah and and then there’s also the Money Talks thing like hey pal that’s cool you want in a free agency it’s fine no one can offer you what we can though and if I’m money I’m selling them you’re going to win here and no one can pay you like we can so yeah if that’s what you want to do do you Greg uh Greg the monk tabers in the Matthews mattress chatty house says DLo KC if bi comes here what do you think it would take to keep him winning and money that’s it and if you’re talking about money it probably would be what would you say 40 million a year yeah like if they if they made the playoffs he’s like that dude you know you’re you’re flirting with Max money yeah you’re in I don’t you know maybe it’s not exactly Max dollars but you’re definitely you could smell the perfume on the max dollars like you’re close enough to you know for it to be in sight absolutely yeah um and and then you know with the scenario you laid out and he played 72 three four five games yeah absolutely and this is one of those things too where you just got to this is probably going to be a huge year for Brandon in I don’t know why it happens like this but it happens a lot where these dudes go into the final year of their contracts it happens across ports we see it all the time I wouldn’t be shocked at all if Brandon Ingram had a monster year regardless of where he’s playing but you can also have situations that go south yeah um you know I I I I I I I’m extremely critical of James Harden and I and I and I criticize him for uh you know the way he conducts himself on a team but e i don’t don’t think it was working on Philadelphia like you you could you could ex you in theory oh Trey young and Brandon Ingram together you have okay Atlanta getting past the Knicks getting past the Celtics those are questions you asked too you put Brandon Ingram on the Sacramento Kings can you fight with the Denver Nuggets because I don’t know that anyone is sold on no one’s going boy you got you really got to fight through Dallas this year in the west no one’s doing that they’re still using Denver that’s not fair to Dallas but it’s the truth it is what it is they’re looking at Denver they’re looking at uh OKC and they’re looking at Minnesota they’re glossing right right past Dallas can you compete with those three and you’re better off like if you’re Brandon Ingram and you’re your objective and it might not be but if your objective is to win of the teams that have been mentioned in this equation your best shot to win is with Sacramento in the Western Conference I agree and I I I if if I’m Philadelphia or if I’m looking at Philadelphia need you to fill out your roster darl I need to know what like me me Tyrese and and and uh and Joel is interesting but like are you surrounding me with two-way guys what else we got going after that yeah we just saw Phoenix do that dude I’m not that didn’t work we just saw Phoenix do that and they didn’t play in the same conference as New York and in in Boston are you doing that oh man yeah and Joe Joe a little bit older now too you gonna have to fill out out this roster dog and Atlanta’s laughable to me Atlanta has a lot of talented yeah is that a talented team not talented players is that a talented team n you thinking too long man that team’s not well I I don’t think they’re I don’t think they’re very good but I if I was playing Devil’s Advocate I’d be like they got to the same exact point as the the uh or no one game behind where the Kings got last year in a weaker conference but is what it is they stink that team’s not good I don’t care where they got last year they got look that team got to the Eastern Conference Finals and they weren’t good well I mean yeah you crapped all over Dallas for getting there and was fair yeah crap all over Atlanta they weren’t good I don’t know that I want to play with Trey young either I’m a hater I hate the way that you walk the way that you talk I hate I don’t like that team maybe you’re not playing with Trey young then don’t send me to Atlanta deon’s your point guard Deon and you and deante well what are we gonna do then okay yeah so all right all right bi good luck bro you’re signing up to go to the plane at best do that I mean I think if you’re going west if you’re going east excuse me your your better bet is Philadelphia but you better push that dude to fill out that roster first if your objective is to win it’s Sacramento you got a better shot with Damonte sabonis dearon Fox Malik Monk and Keegan Murray than you do any combination of guys on any of those other teams Cleveland well that one’s different that one’s a little bit different but okay well let’s do it though so Darius is Darius is obvious yeah and I’ll I’ll just for the sake of argument I’ll just say one of them I won’t say Darius and Jared Al because I maybe maybe that’s asking too much but Darius is gone you’re you’re you now you got Donovan so let’s let’s try this they better than the Bucks potentially yeah I I think I like the Bucks I like the Bucks more than most people though I still think a healthy so this High Praise then yeah I think that I think a healthy Bucks team is is probably this second or third best team in the East but I just asked you if Cleveland was better in this situation yeah yeah I’ll just for sake argument I’ll say yes but do do you believe that I think they’re even I think they’re I think they’re fair enough that’s fine Pacers yeah better than the Pacers Knicks no and and then they’re not better than the Celtics okay that’s not bad company then like I’d roll the dice on that I’d roll the dice on that Brandon Ingram you a chance to get to the Conference Finals of course I do it after Donovan Mitchell signed his four-year $200 million contract extension how does that work out too like for Cleveland to even be considering that if you get bi you gotta think that you’re G to try and keep them he’s gonna get a lot of money and e mo is is lurking around too so this is probably one of those things where like the order in which you send stuff to the league matters like you might have to like you can announce the Don Mitchell signing and it’s not done yet and then acquire you know Brandon Ingram whatever it’s not done yet um well it it wouldn’t it’s still wouldn’t I’m thinking about after because like you’re trying to sign Brandon Ingram to a deal you would get him thinking that you’re signing him to a deal so after that after next year is over you’re signing him to a $200 million deal yeah you’re going for it and then that’s pretty much what you have to do at this point though it’s what the Nick it’s what all you have to go for it and you have you you you have a window Within that second apron to where I mean maybe two years where you either win or you make some excruciating decisions and it’s not you know the the the the era of um Joe Lake up just going well I’m just going to keep paying for it it’s probably over because I don’t even know that Steve balber would want to pay for this especially if you’re not championship team well not just and it’s not just the right exactly and it’s not just the price tag it’s the restrictions like you can’t sign in the in the you know I know the Warriors pitch a fit we couldn’t have signed Dante Devon chenzo they took our mid level away all right dog like okay but that that’s but but in you know salute to Dante and In fairness to Warriors fans like that was true like you lost the ability to do that and that’s what all of these teams are gonna face when they make that move that move is now look you’ve got a window to win a championship then you get out I wonder why they agreed to that that that seems like it seems like a lot um as far as like just making it likeable that you can keep a team together five six years because I think more teams than not can’t afford to do that like they can’t afford to go on six-year runs where they’re paying these absurd luxury tax bills and there are more teams than I mean I think most teams don’t want to pay the luxury tax period but now you’ve got teams going 20 million $30 million over the luxury tax and you instill penalties for them well the penalties didn’t exactly work it didn’t deter many it it deterred some to a degree but you could still hey man I know it’s costing us $300 million for this team we could get Dante Devon chenzo we could you know he gets the the uh not the mid- level but the one that’s like right below that and that’s five million I know it cost us like 25 million but damn it that could be the difference between a championship yo’re they’re going to do it 10 times out of 10 but not every organization can do that and when the math of the owners works out there’s more and I’m being a bit generous with this phrase Have Nots than halves and it I think it it levels the playing field a little bit I guess like cuz willing to spend like yeah if you’re not spending up to the luxury tax and you’re trying to maybe not going a little bit over like yeah every fan base has the right to complain right paying $30 million on a $5 million contract yeah like at some point as a business owner you got to draw a line right that’s a bad investment right and that’s the new collective bargaining agreement they um and and what I do like about it I don’t like U I’m not a fan like the NFL’s hard cap or anything like this it it does say like if you want to you can pay whatever you want to keep a team together or to put a team together it’s just going to cost you a lot but unless you’re the Dodgers then you can just magically defer money till 20 years down the line gu apparently Nico’s the uh the relationship guy they got a money guy man still incredible that that’s legal and he just keeps hitting home runs every single day every day did you see the ball boy who saved his life I did yo that was wild that was crazy that was just nonchalant that was crazy uh we’ll come back we’ll close out this day we’ll close out this week uh and we’ll stare at our phones begging for something to happen for another 30 minutes do something and KC brought to you by Sky River cassino where the humidor is open now over a hundred different types of whiskies a hundred different type of cigar Styles if you don’t know what type of cigar you like no worries they have someone there who can walk you through the process as a matter of fact our experience at the humidor was so fantastic the first time I went home to try to smoke a cigar that I had picked out myself wandering around a cigar store it was crap and I wound up putting it out and not even finishing it this is a great place to learn what your style is it’s the humidor it’s inside Sky River Casino go check it out we’ll come back with more on the ESPN 1320 home strp a it’s going to hurt Z yeah it’s be be be in my feelings oh no no no no because if if that’s the case I’m I’m gon be Reese’s agent and we ain’t deferring no money we ain’t deferring a penny I ain’t gonna wear no Dodgers hat though my man my man Reese gonna be the first athlete in history to get all of his money in a signing bonus Reese is going to sign a $500 million contract and they’re going to have to cut the check that day look I’mma just I’mma be cheering them on in a blue hat like uh Robo MLB we definitely appreciate you David by the way but yeah man he had a good little Allstar season man good stuff get out of the way little scrub Baker my boy oh goodness gracious make a cooking boys is that all it was just nothing about nothing yeah you definitely don’t Jesse go work the room [ __ ] no don’t know how no that’s that’s work life that’s office life that’s what what are he call it what did my man call it what’s the the shindig what’s the what’s the Scuttle butt oh God Scuttle butt your boy the Scuttle butt around the office you guys hairing around the halls in the Halls that’s what it was the Scuttle mean my hearing man you’re my boss oh that was tough that was tough when there had been some firings in the office and he was like hey guys I think there might be some changes coming meanwhile that email had gone out like five days [ __ ] huh oh that was a that was a tough time that was a tough time no filthy McNasty I would not I would I would I would not get um his Dodgers jersey I’d wear his college jersey or wow come on man that’s a lie you’re lying you’re lying you’d wear Dodger gear stop it you’d be the biggest Dodger fan in history well settle down yes you would you’d have a DOD you’d have a Dodger hey you’d have a Dodger remember how the Ros used to carry those little American flags around that’d be KC with the little Dodger flag you know what I do you know what I do I mean I know I know you’re the agent I know it’s your job but I would instruct you to do a rich Paul do do DOD I would do it in reverse Dodgers do not draft him going to Australia Australia anybody else can draft him Dodgers do not draft him yeah KC unfortunately they’re offering him uh $400 million he’s going to the Dodgers I’ll take the 20 million to go to the Cubs sorry buddy Reese is an adult he’s going to the first of all I’m the agent he’s not taking 20 million he’s taking the 400 he’s going to wear dodger blue as a matter of fact I negotiated an LA tattoo on your arm so you’re getting that too buddy nope we’ll take the 400,000 to go to the race and you’re you’re all the official spokesperson for ry’s donuts that’s not a bad so get out there under the dut take your picture got I mean Allison’s right that dodger blue is nice R’s got the same blue it’s fine I forced a trade for my client before I’ll do it again be pretty sweet if um ree was able to get the Dodgers World Series after fighting for like 30 years oh man no long we don’t talk about the summer ball tournament anymore guys re got us one yeah oh man it would hurt so bad too when they beat the Dodgers in the NLCS or beat the Giants in the NLCS oh that’d be painful racist the walk-off in game seven that was for you D Casey like no wherever wherever he goes if he ever went anywhere I would yeah it’d be all good he’s gonna be a two sport athlete though he’s gonna pay for the Dodgers and the Rams I just want him to play high school that’s all that we’ll start there we’ll start there play whatever he wants basketball or baseball I don’t I don’t want him to stop playing baseball I stopped playing baseball and that was that wasn’t the best decision I could have made even though I was really good at about we just booked Reese’s whole life he doesn’t even know it we’re we’re not the only ones Ryan has booked his life as well oh I believe that he Ryan he might want to listen no you’re doing this R uh ree I’m starting to think it’s me like Kennedy was looking at me kind of crazy at the at the draft party I mean just babies is that what babies do do babies look at everybody crazy they’re trying to figure Ryan looks at me like she wants to fight well she looks Kennedy looked at me like she was confused and I was just like maybe it’s not the baby maybe it’s me no I mean well they know I’m scared of Brian it definitely wasn’t you she just you just got to catch her at the right time she’ll look at any did not catch her at the right time so what you wanted to get out the seat I was like hey she was upset like hey Ryan and I bent down and she was like if you don’t get your punk ass away from me I will he said are you getting me out of the stroller if not get out of my face no well that’s pretty much what it was there there were strong get out of my face vibes from Ryan that day so I did as I was instructed to do and I got out of her face she’s done that to me as well it happens Kennedy Kennedy was a nice baby oh kenned is she just looked at me like I mean Ryan’s a nice baby too but I’m just saying Kennedy is a nice baby I was like hey remember me you were trying to throw up on me right before our live show once again are you getting me out of the stroller no if not point me in the direction of somebody who is I don’t think there’s anyone here who’s going to help you Grandma’s worried about the fight your mom’s really hot I don’t know I don’t even know where your dad is we went we went to get some lemonade and your dad just disappeared I don’t know what to tell you oh man yeah man look I think I think think I think I think uh Mon’s cooking like B said I think I think Bon did say that to us he sent us a text yeah he he said uh trying to figure some stuff out right now Monty if you’re listening Wes if you’re listening oh we oh they listening we know just we know we see you we see you working we see you working I think we well we don’t see you working but we think that you are right we hope you’re I will uh once again quote the text from our source uh strong source for DLo and Casey it was sent at 11:25 this morning on our way into the office and I quote crickets did you respond yet I did oh damn because we still have that in our back pocket you could send him like a that little Emoji because then maybe he might have heard something I mean if he heard something he would have told you go to he or she I don’t know who it is it’s good save we call them call them the powers that be ah the powers that the higher power yeah yeah higher power oh did you this is random because I saw there was a anniversary on Raw I did I scrolled by anniversary I think we’re I think we’re we’re in Hell in a Cell territory here aren’t we this was well this was on Raw oh it was it was think it was like a fact something with Mr McMahon or redacted Tyson B hfield ear on 17 years ago today I did see that that was wow wait how many years 17 no no no it was 20 that’s a chatty house yeah that can’t be right house was it on that on today though maybe just the number was wrong okay then I maybe read the wrong number wrong I think it was probably 30 Holyfield vers Tyson 2 maybe it was 27 though January 28th 1997 yeah 27 not 17 man you we talk about it you want to talk Mike Tyson has the ultimate face turn right as far as just anyone in life yes yes like that because they love that guy now that man served time yeah no yeah or yes serious right yeah and now it’s just Mike’s great love Mike they love Mike which is is this right the purse for that fight was 35 million for Evander Holyfield and 30 for Mike now you know I don’t I don’t know what happened after yeah but $35 million that sounds about right if y’all wonder why we think Dana White is just ass in 1997 that was the purse for Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson that sounds I wonder is that keep fighting for that $500,000 bonus is that the purse or is that what they walked away with I it’s it’s under the tail of the tape it says purse because it’s like one of those things where they’ll go into the fight like you’re guaranteed 15 but if the pay-per-view sales are X then you could get up to 25 million I I’m literally reading the line that says purse um so I’m not I’m not sure that’s still like a crazy amount though that is a crazy uh Mike Tyson uh was fine $3 million what do you think UFC fighters are going to at that time um 650 and some jawbreakers that’s what they’re getting uh this weekend for 303 UFC 303 just getting whatever getting whatever I wonder if the we all know we all know the OJ Chase is like the one everybody if it would happen today Twitter would go crazy if that happened today Mike m Tyson Mike Tyson Mike Tyson at that time was probably the yeah 97 the most famous athlete in the world uh Jordan like yeah like like top five it was him and Jordan tiger was was Tiger around tiger no no no no not yet tiger was 98 or so was he he was before 2000 I yeah but tiger didn’t tiger wasn’t like on the scene like that in 97 not like that but I remember I mean tiger had LeBron rookie year like coming out of Stanford didn’t he get the Nike deal coming out of Stanford you got it crazy look man I’m not an encyclopedia dude yes you are well for wrestling maybe uh tiger first Masters was 97 T I guess he’s I guess he’d be right there I don’t know that rank him above Tyson Tyson Tyson was um Tyson was top five most famous ath absolutely absolutely absolutely and he bit a guy’s ear off yes he did WOW were wrestlers ever as popular as those athletes back then in the 90s oh Hogan for sure Hogan and and stone cold oh I I got it yeah it is hell in as hell today sorry I just changed the subject completely I was like wait a minute we’re in hel in cell period yep mck Foley Dove off the Mick Foley took a dive off of Hell in Cell and people always forget Kane beat Stone Cold Steve Austin later that night definitely forgot in a First Blood match where if Kane lost he was gonna be set on fire so it was a First Blood match where Austin was fighting a guy who was completely covered from head to toe and if that guy who was completely covered from head to toe managed to bleed somehow Steve Austin got to set him on fire I don’t know why people don’t like wrestling set him on fire poor Kane won a championship he won his first WWE Championship on the night Mick Foley got thrown off the Hell in the Cell there it is there it is 26 years ago today I’m I’m on on our favorite website 90s WWE or Twitter handle 90s WWE oh Atlanta is trading oh oh Atlanta is trading to jante Murray to the New Orleans Pelicans wow as reported by KC 45 minutes ago wow who okay who’s your Source it has to be for Brandon yeah it’s funny Shams and wge have identical tweets it’s not why would Brandon Ingram’s name not be included it can’t be Ingram Ingram’s name wasn’t included well you just neglected to throw Brandon Ingram’s name in here that’s what’s giving me pause they didn’t throw Jaylen McDaniel’s name in the Tweet yesterday well that’s not the same Jesse that is not the same sir I’m trying man dejon Murray is headed to the New Orleans Pelicans and now we got to sit here like a couple of jackasses holding on to this phone waiting for the second part of the Tweet to come in who do we think it’s for it can’t be Brandon Ingram why not that because Brandon Ingram is is is like the headliner of the trade herb well then what are you sending Jones could it be herb Jones somebody tweets something for this is Dum like Shams have to know like who’s going ridiculous really oh yeah we’re trading deont muray to the Pelicans and that’s it it’s one thing to do this with with with with with with with jayen yesterday like come on man the New Orleans Pelicans are one of the teams like everybody’s talking about tweet something it h it has to be Brandon ingr it can’t I know I understand but it it has to so so did someone at the Hawks just text these guys and go hey guys we’re trading to Jon Murray and then cut just left like I’ll see you I’m trying to think of any other play like it’s I don’t Pelicans are moving for God’s sakes it’s Larry Nance Jr and two first round picks the Pelicans are sending Larry n Jr and two first round picks to the Hawks for dejonte Murray now I ask you is Brandon Ingram even being traded the jante vi and Zion yeah because they don’t want to pay him I don’t think that’s all comes down the money and that is very cheap for deont Murray let me say that very cheap gosh very n i mean that is that is I don’t I’m not going to say it I mean that I’m not sure what value on N her and Barnes yeah honestly her and Barnes H and Barnes is better than lar it it is Larry Nance Jr in two first round picks are headed to the Hawks in exchange for dejonte Murray not the trade involving the Pelicans that we were waiting for nor expecting the Pelicans are sending a 2025 first round pick via the Lakers and the least favorable TW uh pick between them and the one that they have of Milwaukee Larry n Jr and walr and more for dejonte Murray okay tyon Daniels is also going to Atlanta now it’s starting to even out a little bit Larry Nance Jr and Dyson Daniels are headed to Atlanta Deonte Murray is headed to the New Orleans Pelicans the kfm Show is canceled we are just sitting here all day reading tweets what does that mean for Trey young is he still getting traded you guys think no I think he stays I never thought Trey was getting traded really I think he stays in Atlanta no I think he stays in Atlanta and I think Atlanta’s got a lot of salary they they’re trying to [ __ ] if wer Shams had any balls whatsoever they’d announce another trade involving the New Orleans Pelicans right now do you think so okay let’s let’s play this game let’s talk about it um do you think it’s more or less likely that bi stays with the I thought it was less likely I feel like it’s the same I don’t think Deontay is keeping them there like forcing them out or anything like that like they don’t want to pay him I think like I said is what it comes down to the other thing about the other thing about that which look it it may not really matter that much but another part of moving on from Brandon Ingram is Trey Murphy you want to pay him and where is he playing on like if if bi stays if you’re if you’re like yo Trey Murphy because you you’ve got you’ve got now CJ the de jante bi Zion the center spot is open okay okay okay wait a minute then okay we might be burying the lead here well obviously the lead is Brandon you both think Ingram is still likely to be traded yep doesn’t this take the Hawks off the table yeah yeah yeah so Atlanta’s out of so at least based on Fisher’s report which take it for a grain of salt but it’s what we’re working with right now takes Cleveland off the table too to be honest which because of the deont because return orle you’re not getting because of the return well Brandon Ingram is coming to Sac see you Monday folks only all along I’m telling you Mon’s been cooking it’s the only possible explanation been cooking we did it bro I need that to happen right now yeah seriously Monty we got like eight minutes till we got to get out of here I swear to God if Monte trades him when we go to 1025 I will never speak to that man as long as I live just gonna walk by him at the a and making noise Shannon gonna come up with hey you want to talk to mining today no absolutely not oh man it’s starting to cook it’s starting to cook in the NBA I’m hyped they that’s a good call though from Jesse there’s there’s a lot of there’s a lot of there’s a lot of ramifications for this deal that that surround the rumors that we talked about earlier um it feels like Cleveland is out of this conversation unless they just because you said earlier oh maybe you don’t do D Darius and Jared so maybe maybe you just did jar Jared Allen at this point and whatever else and that would make a lot of sense for New Orleans after if New Orleans trades um bi to to Cleveland and they just get Jared Allen in return New Orleans New Orleans is cooking up some boy and now you got Jared Allen to go with Zion Trey Murphy Deonte and CJ you still got herb coming off the bench you got Alvarado coming off the bench you got uh I forgot the the young rookie that I like that they have that shoots the ball real well he’s he’s the future at the shooting guard position Hawkins if you do trade for Allen though you’ll have to pay him too true well is he I thought he kind of just got paid he’s I think he’s in the middle of his deal he’s got two more years left this year in next there and then he’s done okay he’s at 20 mil per that’s the last trade of the day that’s all right let’s go home everyone that’s it that’s the last trade of the day we’ll see what happens tomorrow with Paul George with DLo sure I hope you’re not getting traded well y’all called me Marcus Smart last week so like call marus I’m getting traded and y’all gonna win a championship gotta say it’s nice though we don’t have to worry about my league mon going into this weekend oh man talk about it holy crap that’s the truth that is the absolute truth got to worry about everything anything else yeah I know but but not that yeah don’t have to worry about that speaking of money you got five more minutes to break something yeah I think I think I think got a really good idea about what’s going on has there been anyone else in on Brandon Ingram besides like the teams we name like the Cavs the Hawks like obviously the Kings have been in there was there any other teams usually or not usually but mention you the trade the trade spots are they kind of filling up to a certain degree I mean you think about who would be in the market of like really trading like you you think maybe an OKC um I don’t think Chicago would I don’t think San Antonio would maybe San I don’t know uh Dallas I don’t think so well maybe Dallas maybe Dallas because we we talked about the money that they have Houston may be looking to do something but I don’t think any of those teams are looking for for for for a bi type Dallas Dallas maybe should probably go get that my my brother from New York Julius no but they got they’re good at center with the combination of lively yeah Gafford yeah New Orleans you literally have no other options give him to Sacramento already you literally have nowhere else to go so so wait okay wait a minute so bi is the one every everyone wants Brandon Ingram I still want kma first I’ll be happy 100% either way with Y just want something to happen well Ingram and kmer those are the two I think I’m look I’m not gonna act holier than now I I want some action well no the move needs to happen it’s just those are the two it’s those are the perfect fits right there I still I still have I still have kma as the as the number one ranked on my on my big board my trade Big Board bi second Cam and finy Smith is third Jeremy Grant is fourth and Zack LaVine is fifth uh somebody tell lazyy hartenstein is absolutely your brother yes he is Ley he is brother he he absolutely is my man um not everybody looks like you and Casey Ley come on haters um oh that’s un called for I don’t even know if I like shul 99 Monty mcf is not his oh no that’s not okay don’t do that that’s not what mcfa why would you want to Jon Murray a hard pass for me dog I don’t need that that was hilarious though Jon Murray got traded to the Pelicans oh m not doing anything again like come on Pik andu some battles bro literally a player we have not discussed one time makes no sense on this team God Monty tell me we couldn’t do Kevin hder and two first round picks for jont Mur couldn’t do that oh man we have two minutes of show left which means three minutes till the kings make a trade everybody when it happens thank us because we’re off well hey yo you got the dejonte Murray to the Pelicans things right I thought bi would be involved though well I’m trying to Big you up don’t ruin it with what actually was said you had Deon Murray going to the Pelicans the details aren’t did bar Horwitz bar Horwitz this is this is funny New Orleans was 0 and 24 when trailing entering the fourth quarter in two and 14 in close games and see Murray as a player who can generate offense late in games Pelicans remain committed to a core that includes Zion Williamson and CJ McCollin come on well let’s no we’re not let’s just stay on the air yeah no it’s happening come on pels are trying to find common ground with Brandon Ingram contract that tweet is disrespectful if I was Brandon Ingram I’m out of here yeah no that’s foul taking my happy ass to Sacramento that is foul y’all don’t want me why don’t want me man picans remain to committed to a core that includes Zion Williamson and CJ McCollum that is phenomenal out of there absolutely phenomenal that is crazy Pelicans are trying to find common ground with Brandon Ingram contract that means means they don’t want his ass and they’re trying to ship him out why you don’t want me man well I hate to do this but we’re going home well actually we’re not we’re staying our happy asses right here and just going to another radio station if anything happens over the course of the next two hours or so we’ll we’ll figure something out um I’m gonna be honest I don’t think it is but um we will be back with you Monday hopefully with lots of stuff to talk about uh James ham will be back Orlando has declined to extend million come on man bring who the hell is he come on Chris haes and the show we’ll see you on Monday have a nice weekend F NBA jackasses read the room oh man that’s czy Chris Haynes tweeting about Orlando in a qualifying offer damn it pal all right well Jess Grace seen you the other night bro have fun in Taho saurin have a great weekend Tyler well Patrick Yeah Yeah Ingram can light some of California’s finest that’s for sure oh poor Z Zay don’t do that I’ll help you I I’ll try to find it don’t do that Z Z’s gonna hate us by the end of all the hey what happened to zbo man he couldn’t he couldn’t take watching those videos anymore and he just left I like d Dyson Daniels too he’s a good ball he’s a good ball player um all right man we’ll see you guys uh we’ll see you guys Monday um we’ll figure everything else out along the way we’ll see you guys Monday stay tapped into all the socials and all of that stuff I know we’re doing sports Sunday Sunday all right we’ll see y’all later
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2 Comments
Pelicans will want to replace those 2 picks that they sent to the hawks… I think pelicans still would want Jarret allen from the cavs… How is brandon Ingram allowed for the super max or max when he’s never played over 65 games in his career thats scary lol
LOVE KIM. Need her to come on air every Friday!
I agree, some need to be blocked. 😂