Delon Wright signs with Bucks as NBA free agency speeds up

Delon Wright signs with Bucks as NBA free agency speeds up

hey there welcome to gsn’s ongoing bucks free agency coverage except this time we actually have free agency to talk about if you’re listening on the audio feed you may not know what I’m talking about but this we are presented by prize Pi just get that in early before I forget but Jordan tresky and I who’s here with me again went live first two hours of free agency got about two total deals none with a bucks only major one was kcp we had only Luke cornette resigning for the minimum for the First full hour honestly I’m proud of how we did but so little happened that we decided to not put that on the audio feed um but here we are uh now with real moves talk about the next day also joined by the lovely Rohan cotti Rohan Jordan how’s it going I’m doing well I’m glad to be talking about uh bucks freeny moves and just it’s been a slow going so now that we’re and things are trickling down uh down to the Bucks who don’t have much to spend but they still manage to get a a promising player I would say for sure and I’m happy to be here uh still in St Louis uh for people who are watching this on YouTube you may notice I’m very orange uh that is that is reflective of one I am not at my usual setup but uh also it’s reflective of the Heatwave that I’ve I’ve been uh uh a part of it it has been ridiculous weather here uh I’ve loved it I’ve had a great time but like it’s the weather’s crazy the weather’s crazy it makes me appreciate makes me appreciate Lake Michigan so much like because it’s it’s I’ve had days where it’s like feels like 110 with 70% humidity and it’s just been it’s been a lot I’ve had a great time here but the Lake Michigan I miss you thought the orange was a political statement No we’re we’re here we can get right into it oh one more thing one more thing time okay never mind we can’t get right into it no no we can’t because we don’t have to get into everything you guys have already covered some free agency if you want to listen to gspn after dark which is part of 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recently uh and now the Bucks do get their man they signed Delon Wright to a one-year vet minimum contract there was a little bit of controversy the WJ and Shams a side note keep reporting potential max deals or potential deals as like 10% higher than they rationally could be so there was a little bit of a like are the Bucks cutting a bunch of salary and opening up and accept no they’re not it it’s just it’s a vetman contract thankfully that was confirmed I think it was probably there was no real alternative but D Wright been around the league for a long time uh this past season if you just look at the per game numbers it’s not going to blow you away 4.5 points 2.5 assists but really was not able to play much especially in his time with the Wizards uh when they were kind of going through a youth movement they have Jordan P they have tus Jones really kind of a mess of a team in Washington as it usually is but looking at the last couple years looking at the advanced metrics I think there’s a lot to like about this move but I want to throw to Rohan first because we have not heard from him much lately and because you said I would have been real excited about this five years ago so Rohan tell us why are you a Delon right hater why do you think it’s D Rong okay okay I don’t first off I like the puns I will appreciate that so I I’ll take that segue but I will not say that I’m a d hater I will not say this is a the Delan wrong move to make I think that’s what you said I’ll say it’s the Delon right move to make if you’re able to get some point of attack defense help on a veteran minimum contract especially when you guy have guys like Chris Dunn as we’ll talk about a little later going to Flippers not out of the uh not signing with the Bucks zon Wright you’ll take right he’s an experienced veteran he’s able to do the things that they need a backup guard who’s probably a first or second Off the Bench depending on what else happens in free agency I don’t think you can do like much better than this given the current proper free agents sure maybe there’s a trade possibility all that the Bucks probably maybe are reshaping their bench in this offseason we’ll see as it just started but being able to bring a proven experienced guy off the bench who fills a position of Need For You Like Delon Wright is a guy who I wouldn’t necessarily think should start games he can absolutely close games for you right he can be a part he can be that fifth guy on the floor during like the closing moments of games if he’s able to do so right so I think it’s a versatile move I think it’s a good move and honestly I again with the current crop free agents I don’t know how much better you’re really going to be able to do rohan’s hitting the big point I wanted to make so I will just Echo what he saying in that we’re seeing the guys that we thought of as like you know mildly like optimistic about these guys that may be squeezed out with the money going out and obviously with you know what we’re seeing free ageny it’s not like the guys that deserve the big money contracts are getting those it’s the players that are like oh like there’s the occasional jayen Smith contract three years for 27 million that you’re like okay but it’s the Bulls and they have money to spend kind of thing for see like the Bucks who have very little spend they have vetman contracts it’s really hard to entice a player that’s like yeah I want to get my big payday outside of promising hey you’re going to be you know at best may be in the mix for to to be a starter going into the year I think for what they what they had at their disposal a guy like dlon Wright checks a lot of boxes I kind of would compare it a lot to riggy and Patrick Beverly only that dlon Wright is bigger he’s longer he’s certainly more athletic I think he does he bring he just kind of hits all of the similar things that we really liked with Patrick Bley to you know until the end of the season that we just we knew that they needed so badly with that team last year and it’s really no different I think for him I would say probably the biggest question I would say is durability issues I mean he is getting older it’s not like he has a lot of miles under his belt but I know like a few recent Seasons he’s been slowed by various injuries that might be something to monitor but for where they’re at like you know Gary Harris went off the board for two I think two years $4 million overall DF Melton gets you know he’s yeah Dy Melton got like a big contract that I thought maybe he could be like a byow guy rohan’s big what happened there why is DeAnthony Melton getting what was it 13 million I think it’s the full right yeah non- tax M I think yeah they’re like you know what plays gone you know what we got Anthony Mel Steph Curry you happy no too bad they announced it right away the Clippers did the same thing do you notice that like immediately go like all right we’ll bring in Derrick Jones J we got a new guy we’re fine we have a new guy oh we lost Klay Thompson that’s okay we have DeAnthony Melton and there’s a lot of like oh he’s a better skill set he plays defense he’s 61 and he was out half the year with like debilitating back issues okay like his defensive impact when he plays is great I certainly would have taken the shot on vet Min like for the bucks sure but for that big money for one year we’ll see how much he can play crazy to me crazy to me sorry thought it was very lar that’s okay um I think there’s one more Target that we kind of thought I mean christon got P picked up by the Clippers presumably on a vetman deal that’s what it sounds like considering what they already have already spent too so like these guys are getting gobbled up for various you know deals to be signed I just thought it was good for the Bucs to kind of it’s kind of John horo of you see what’s out there initially with free agency you see the big money being spent when you have very little to do you kind of go in The Bargain Bin and see who’s available and see who would is obviously willing to come to for to come to Milwaukee for what they have Delan Wright obviously said yes yeah I think the big thing I’ll wonder is what’s the role expectation and what role does he end up playing my perfect world there’s a player still brought in who clearly slots in start at the two making Delan Wright your first guard Off the Bench with that which I think is great I think if Delan Wright is starting like I I like the fit of him and Dame I think they’ll play well next to each other I I just think it’s a little underwhelming overall but I think it could be worse and again this is the I think the caliber of player we’ve talked about in the past of like throw them into a competition with Andre Jackson Jr with Mar bamp with AJ Green and and see who Nets out like I don’t think the Bucks are an untenable spot there but it’s an underwhelming spot I I think we’d all like them to continue whether it’s another signing they have 13 contracts now unless a little bit of intrigue here would Tyler Smith take a two-way I think not I I think not at 33 that would be a a record for a higher pick to take one that would open up another spot but they’re at 13 spots if he doesn’t and that’s assuming you know no thanasis no no returning vets just actual reported contracts and the two draft piics which which again uh the first rounder could not AJ Johnson could not be a two-way Tyler Smith could be Rohan what’s with the you mentioned the nasis and I got upset uh he gets to be around the team either way which I think is a big win for you it is it is the content he’s he’s like a grad assistant he’s like a grad assistant call him a ga what are we doing here well he’s he knows a ga he does know a ga nice a Ka an AA um I’m going to have to I’m going to have to go to AA if Rohan keeps talking about the does I’m gonna throw six players at you I’m gonna throw six players at you I want you guys to try and guess what they all have in common the six players are Jose Alvarado Chris Dunn TJ McConnell Larry Nance Jr Dennis Smith Jr and Delon W is it deflections for 36 or something it’s pretty close and that’s the right idea should I just say it it’s kind of obscure I I think I’ve seen this it’s from Eric names peace in the athletic those are the six players to average at least one steal per game while playing fewer than 20 minutes per game Delon writes 2.6 steals per 36 his second highest per 36 steel rate in the NBA he reeks havoc in passing Lanes off the ball good on the ball I think probably someone who’s I’ve underrated as a Defender as you kind of dive into what he’s been able to do I also I I thought he was even a better shooter than he was because I watched some of the Miami Boston games and he was a bucket off the dribble in that five in that four game series excuse me shot 60% from three I think he might have missed the game uh but eight points three rebounds uh less than two assists no turnovers in the playoffs I believe in the regular season as well he had a pretty ridiculous what was it I’ve got the totals up here he had 119 assists to 14 turnovers this season the years before 194 to 44 188 to 45 so I think it’s honestly I really like the blend of real useful efficient playmaker can score a bit his twoo percentage fell off this year which I’m a little bit wary of I want to see how that goes maybe better team will help him out there good three-point shooter seems like a very disruptive Defender definitely better spacing but even if he’s not great offensively that’s a lot of what we’re and just a steady vet someone you know you can trust like I immediately like the signing and The more I’ve dug in the more I’m like yeah I think he’s really GNA help Milwaukee with a lot of the things they need this season yeah 100% I mean you think about dlon wght you think about just like a classy vet who’s who’s been around and again like he’s not even that old what is he 32 years old that’s like a 4ye you’re getting younger with getting rid ofh turn 32 FR 32 exactly happy belated birthday to R uh but p b a guy who’s 36 I believe uh and getting a guy like Delan Wright who’s 32 I mean you don’t think of getting Delon Wright is getting younger but with this Milwaukee Bucks team anything is possible and that happens so when it comes to age so seeing seeing as I am set to turn 30 soon I will stick up for Pat Bev and say he is still 35 for the next 11 days so I’m not going to let you take that away from him Rohan happy happy early birthday P there you go an early birthday a late birthday um but yeah it’s it’s it’s a good veteran signing right like dlon Wes always been a trade Target realistically for the bucks Ty you mentioned earlier I know we talked about him as a trade Target at the trade deadline for the bucks I was a little more uh sour on it than you were but I mean as a vetman you can do much worse right especially like I’ll keep coming back to this Jordan you Echo this I think you mean better yes yes better I do mean better you can’t do much just want to clarify I think everyone would have known what you meant but you just dropped by you can’t do much worse and then move on I was like man rohan’s really still not high on him you to much excuse me then uh the that was called derell right that’s how that’s how his bra I just got his bro his Champion bro with the with the heat right oh so yeah no I’m all the way no no he didn’t win a chip or at least unless he just didn’t know it doesn’t have it on bball ref did he leave the year before that’s unfortunate yeah he left the year before before LeBron got there oh oh that’s bad timing yeah then he came no he won an ‘ 06 oh why isn’t the thing next to his name oh he didn’t play in the playoffs my bad oh okay I was like he was it wasn’t the Bron one it was the Shaq one yeah I was looking at I was looking at the playoffs on bball ref cuz I had it up and usually it shows you that gold gold the ring but he didn’t play in the playoffs so there’s no stats so still got the ring though that counts that counts we count those oh yeah 100% me especially danasus has stats he does no I mean that’s not even who I was talking about I was talking about who you talking about M diak I thought gonna say Co coess I don’t know if he has stats from his I have no idea anyway um Jordan any other thoughts on Delan Wright and we’ll talk quickly about the other Buck signing and then I think we can bounce around to other players who have gone or who whoever else we have our eye on for Milwaukee I have a I have a new Pie in the Sky name now that my dear Garis has been taken from me for the second straight time by Orlando why do they keep doing this he’s barely gonna play come on let me have this yeah he might he feels like a trade candidate if they want to like pack but do they ever trade anyone no I think the LA what was the last big on the Gordon trade or Ian both I guess but that was like offseason wasn’t it or was V midseason I felt like there was a deadine I think it was midseason yeah that’s pretty wild for them that’s uncharacteristic yeah that is very uncharacteristic um I’ll go back to I I would not be shocked if dlon Wright pending other moves is probably the lead guy to start in terms of I think one he’s the vet I think doc kind of leans more towards that we saw with Bud we saw with AJ Griffin briefly um I I think that that just feels right and it’s kind of like his spot to lose I will say I think part of what intrigues me is and I mean it’s not like they have any other choice here but it does open up the door for them to really think that if a guy like AJ Green AJ Mar Bo champ maybe Chris Livingston if they make that leap as we’ve been steadily taking or talking about the last couple weeks the the door is open for them to at least be in the rotation to start the season and then we’ll see how that transform transforms over over the rest of the year but yeah that’s that’s kind of where I’m leaning towards I mean it’s July 1 so this could easily Chang when training C actually starts but I just kind of feel like that’s where we lightly pencil L but keep the Eraser handy nearby I would say Rohan thinks you couldn’t do much worse than starting uh starting Del right here here here’s the thing here’s the thing about starting Del right is I think he I I agree with you Jordan I think he’s definitely capable especially with the current coaching staff especially with the roster I just don’t think it’s the best role for him on the bucks right like ideally like Ty said earlier I would agree that you bring someone else in who can firmly start in that two guard spot right or I would even I would even maybe Lean Like A Jax or AJ Green over over dlon right purely so you can have a guy who’s experienced running the bench unit right one thing the Buck has severely lacked is just a guy who can come in when Dame is not on the court and control an offense right I mean you can have Chris Middleton try and do that sometimes but again we’ve seen him bringing the ball up the court not necessarily something you really want to do and it’s an adventure we’ll say it it’s an adventure every single time right so if you have an experienced guy like d Wright who like Tai mentioned earlier is a great assist to turnover guy does not takes care of the ball if you have him coming off the bench I think it’s a steadying ship almost like the almost like the George Hill role but a little worse yes that’s the comp that’s the comp I keep thinking of yep abely is is I think he’s more Hill than Pat Bev I mean I get people get the you know from the defensive side for Pat Bev but I I don’t think they’ve had a complete player backup point guard like this since George Hill no I don’t think is that because I I didn’t trust his offense a lot of the time no I I didn’t either I mean it helped when he hit shots but George Hill like preco pre- lockdown was he was a very huge help especially as they moved on from Brockton and they went that crazy start to that year he was so good that that year and to the to the conversation about Delan Wright starting I would prefer if he closed over starting at a certain point and I could I almost feel like that’s I won’t say more likely but I I don’t know something about that just makes sense to me like let’s get the vet who can handle the ball on the floor and then you’re really in a place where you’re closing lineup you have four guys who you’re comfortable put I mean look how well that worked for Boston and I’m not saying D Wright is on the level of a Drew holiday or drick White by any means but I do think like okay we have four ball handlers out here our fifth guy is probably going to be close to the rim and like just you know put that kind of put that kind of you know spacing threat of like you can just throw it to him and hopefully he dunks if it’s Bobby Portis maybe not um we’ll see if if he’s on the team what happens there but I just think it’s it’s a nice position to be in but I I like the idea of him leading bench units I also think you know probably his ball handling is going to help you more throughout the course of the whole game if he is staggered with some of the other players that’s the nice thing I think he can play with any of the Bucks primary players like any combination of them which gives you a lot of lineup versatility versus like a we’ve talked about like in passing tus Jones or Monty Morris where I don’t I wouldn’t want them to play with Dame I have no issues with Delon W playing with Dame so I think it it’s a really it’s a really useful Cog to throw into the rotation yeah we got big news to talk about oh I was gonna say speaking of big like especially considering just to piggyback off that like the LA right is a bigger guy like than Pat Bev or anything like he’s 65 with like a 67 plus wingspan correct that’ll play that’ll play but what’s the big news that the big news this is huge 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don’t have to we don’t I don’t want to do this thing yeah he’s like a it’s I wouldn’t say it’s like Faith supported Financial advice yeah which it’s there’s some Merit in what he says but I think he goes about it the wrong it’s it’s kind of untenable I can’t do a whole Dave Ramsey thing now I’ll start my financial literacy podcast at a future date on gspn gspn doino to make sure you don’t miss my f my finance takes here um The Warriors announced they’re going to retire clay Jersey maybe you should have just paid him could have could have stay do this at this time right now anyway Stanley and moodier of the piston has played two seasons there has played more with the Motor City are they Pistons or drive now more in the G League he has Motor City Cru thank you they used to be the Grand Rapid Drive I knew Drive came from somewhere and all the teams now are just getting more and more boring which really like when they went from the Red Claws to the main Celtics that was really disappointing to me Tony Snell should be a red clock AR They isn’t this is it the Suns affiliate just the valley Suns I think so they or they used to be the northern Arizona Sun yeah no they didn’t they didn’t even have one for a bit right they got rid of it they had the they traed to the P they sold it to them yeah yeah oh which makes no sense I always wondered like did those people have to move like St you’d hope you’re not you’re not buying the building they didn’t play in Arizona like what does that mean if you buy a team did they buy all the rights to the players I guess I I don’t there’s so much to Dave Ramsey Dave if you buy if you buy an NBA team it’s not like you inherit everything like you don’t have to go and new contracts no yeah but contracts one year at a time it’s just rights to players but it’s not that valuable I think it’s the same team just new ownership yeah but if you buy an NBA team you get the building and they they they play in Michigan if you own the building well you at least get the least of the like they it was from Arizona to Michigan that’s true I don’t know I just feel like the benefits of buying The A g-league Team are so reduced if way too subscribe at GSN info we can find out after we buy a yeah yeah let’s let’s buy that’s sure let’s buy the herd they could they could use some help right about now it seems so I think the Bucks already own the herd unfortunately Stan the Man um two years I think uh Bucks fans are semi excited about this for for what ended up being a two-way I hoped it would be a two-way when the news first broke because I mean this is a player Detroit had a team option they declined for vet Min which I think should set the bar relatively low and as I talked about earlier with dlon Wright not a lot of roster spots so if if they signed Stan the Man here to a standard deal you’re either you’re probably done that’s 14 I don’t think they’ll do 15 with the second apron going forward and maybe there’s a chance if they don’t duck it before the season they duck it at the deadline that’s a whole other thing we’ll be able to track but regardless um it’s a two-way I think it’s a pretty promising two-way he’s 25 there’s some really good defensive tape that’s been circulating out there there’s some videos on YouTube uh he’s a fresh 25 just like our guy Delon uh but good defensive tape his NBA three-point percentage is 25 like D no it’s fresh like Delon sorry that was confusing I wish Delon was 25 I was like that’s the heist of the century right there for the bik or if I if I had it mixed up and they were the same age but they were both 32 that’d be pretty rough for Stanley and mud uh would be a pretty bad two-way there um but shot 44% uh in his NBA career despite shooting 0% in his rookie year cuz he only played two minutes but in his g-league ten year 32.7% from three uh I talked to some friends who cover the Pistons doesn’t sound like he can dribble so probably a pretty Touch and Go offensive skill set but I see the defensive upside and it’s clear at this point horting company are just like we’re going to find wing Defenders somewhere man we’re R over every stone even this past season Ryan Rollins um Jaylen Galloway like they’re just trying to find guys who can do enough offensively and defend around Dame so the vision is clear uh I think this is a good two-way though I think why not take the swing and see if the shooting is real yeah why not if you see an intriguing young Prospect who has defensive upside why not right like if if it doesn’t work out which I hope it does you can always just recycle the two-way why not take a flyer right like he he’s coming off of ankle surgery which is also tough who knows fracture ended his season in late March so that’s also tough but again the Bucks aren’t going to make the signing without knowing what’s going on there so just being able to just bring him in see what she got there and then go from there I mean why not that’s the that’s the beauty of a two-way contract right like it doesn’t really it doesn’t count against like the luxury tax or anything like it doesn’t matter like you can you can sign as many of these guys as you want as long as you’re willing to pay them right so just bring them in see what they got if they can turn into something with the herd and then maybe eventually with the buck that’s awesome if not no nothing nothing’s really going to happen from it so I think it why not swing for the fences on a two-way on a two-way to be clear not with the 23rd overall pick uh oh uh oh here we go again no no I’m I’m gonna control myself just no one talk about Jaylen green and I’ll be fine I was going to say do you know who stale Amud uh knows no no peripheral he knows K C that’s what he does K to The Bu the B man yeah he got a fresh extension he got the he got the baby Max right baby super max yeah I think they reported it as the super max but I do not think he will be eligible for the super max so it’ll probably be smaller than the number they put out there which is the new trick to put out a big number good for him I think Desmond B just report a big number just report a big number that’s what the buck signed Giannis for two billion do who knows if it’s real or not just do that what he deserves Jason Tatum just got he might be million to this franchise Jason Tatum just got the ownership rights to the Boston Celtics from his next contract who knows if it’s true or not let’s see what Happ the first ever $70 million season six years from now pretty crazy great it’s great for a role play Dave Ramsey’s Dave Ramsey has did you just say great for a role player he’s just a assistant player just ass assistant player listen I mean let’s not do this now I have some I have some thoughts yeah this feature gspn after dark content right here oh yeah absolutely how bad is Jason Tatum really that’s just gonna be the whole episode no I couldn’t I everyone knows I like the guy I want to correct no I like it too I like it I’m correcting my Stanley am moodier stat that was just showcased cup that he’s 32% career g-league from three in the regular season he is 36% although it dropped from 38 last year to 33.5 this season um but still uh a little bit of a higher number than IID said they split it in a kind of annoying way on basketball reference so again the shooting I think is more of a question mark for sure than the NBA percentage will tell you I think mechanically that’s true as well but some shooting upside definitely and and good defensive chops so excited to see uh what what he can do so should we talk about who is left on the board so my free agency did which one Dennis Smith Jr do you feel like less likely now I feel like it’s equally likely and let’s talk about why so we talked a little bit about how Chris dun uh again signed with the clippers off the board was less likely or I think UT tweeted about after the D Wright sighting I think Delon Wright is flexible enough like we’ve been talking about he could start at the two he could be your backup point guard he could be your backup two guard he’s flexible enough where you can still get another defensive minded point guard in there like it’s not going to be Chris dun could it be Dennis M Jr maybe I could see those guys playing together yeah I thought dun was even more malleable so I would have been more open to it um but I do agree with your general premise but I would be less excited about that now because then I really feel like okay the plan is for Delan Wright to maybe be the starting two guard which again I’m not thrilled about but I’d be happy to just add more defensive Talent uh in dsj but I think I think it’s a little more at least a little less likely now yeah I would say it feels a little less likely I think Wright kind of just Leap Frogs him in terms of just talent and overall malleability is a perfect word I would still I mean if that is one of the you know the two spots that they have left that they’re going to sign a player to I’d be fine with it it’s It’s just tough because it’s like we all know M beasy’s gone he’s overplayed his contract we I mean he had his flaws and everything like that but still was more than a than what we thought of at the time it is going to be really I feel like AJ G is rep to like Bill some of the three-point shooting like that Beasley brought I don’t know to the level that he can that Beasley brought this year where he hit like over 233s like total threes I don’t know if you try to find try to make a bet on a guy that you think that you can turn into a decent Defender that gives you more of a spacing threat that’s just kind of like because roster spots are so scarce with this team you have you could go to the big Market if you want as much as they have talked about that like hor I think I feel like I mentioned it like 56 times but like John horse talking about like the change of pace B is kind of big to me in terms of just like wanting a skill set that they haven’t really valued all that much behind Burke and Bobby um and you have just so many wings that I mean a lot of them are unproven but you have so many wings that you want them to prove themselves that you just don’t want to take time away from them in order for them to get rep so it’s like this kind of Catch 22 with the rest of their roster that whatever direction that they go I mean it’s all for the V men so you can’t just have like super high expectations of where you’re going to get and return oh I can I can and I will two chall accepted to your point about the bigs I think the two on the board right now that I would be really excited about are Xavier Tillman and precious auua auua is easy it’s kind of crazy just how everybody talks about the big Market this is a it’s not a league for for big men anymore blah blah blah blah blah feel like this has been the position has been depleted the most because it is so scarce of like finding really good talent that way yeah I don’t know I would I would love if they added him but I kind of feel like I almost think it’s more likely if they were to trade a Bobby or a Brooke that they sign either of those guys because I think they’re going to be relatively coveted uh vet Min guys and as we saw probably with Delan Wright I think playing time is a big part of the equation and if you’re a center free agent you look at the Bucks the last like five years every vetman Center they brought in to be behind Brooke and Bobby except for the year Brooke missed all the games with the back surgery never played right so if you’re precious a Chua and you could go back to the Nicks on vet Min and maybe start like their Center situation after losing hartenstein is kind of a mess like I’m sure there’s other teams with a bigger role or I can go to the Bucks and just never play I I almost think you have to do a trade first if they were going to bring in one of those two guys but I would love if they did it would be nice to have real depth as right now the third big or the third non Yannis big is Tyler Smith right I mean that’s pretty much it yeah it’s t it’s Ty Smith sign baby I think it’s a good pick you do or you being sarcastic no I think it’s a good pick oh okay yeah I do too cool I just realized I never actually said that yeah it’s true I’m glad you like that one I I I figured you would feel that way but I know there were a lot of people who like you got to go win now at 33 you didn’t at 23 it’s like are you sure any of the players who are win now are going to win ever that’s that’s it’s good value that’s question yeah here’s my unrealistic and and hay with high Smith is still available I was going to say your guy hay with the reporting from his agent is he’s also getting a Max so we’ll we’ll see what happens there did you see these quotes Rohan I know you’ve been kind of like traveling Oh my God no I need to pull up exactly what this guy said this it was pretty unhinged I love Haywood High Smith it was pretty unhinged I mean as you’re pulling that up my top of our free agent boards my free agent board when we did that Kelly UB off the board uh you can look at a guy like Nick patum he’s off the board uh who else is off the board I’m pulling up my big board now um Andre Drummond off the board Gary Harris Josh aogi still out there I think unless I miss something yeah I think no you’re right you’re right uh the one guy I want to talk about I want to hear this quote first though if you find it otherwise I can just keep going I’m looking I’m looking I’m trying to find it okay so the guy I really am interested in oh you got it no no no keep going I’m close is Lonnie Walker that’s a wild thing to say oh it’s uh Lonnie Walker I believe it’s still a free Asian I believe right yeah I think he is he is the Darin connection is there too plus yeah the Darin connection is there plus if you want a guy who if you don’t want to go as defensive minded after uh getting the Delon Wright signing done if you want to I mean he’s still he can be a good Defender versatile Defender but if you want to get like a guy who’s more geared to be a versatile scorer that’s a guy you can bring Off the Bench or maybe even start like I think he’d be slot in as a good starter great starter uh I think he’s a lot of Bucs fans number one right now I think for very good reason you know I think his defensive chops are undefined I I don’t think he’s proven it on that end but you know I think he has the tools to do a better F similation of what Beasley did last year which is like yeah I know what I’m I know what’s needed from me like I’ll lean into this and I think a younger bigger more athletic player I think bigger maybe not bigger but more athletic player like Lonnie Walker who’s a slasher I think that’s an interesting thing thing to drop into this group with so much spacing would be really would be really interesting I think that’d be a home run vetman I’ve got the quote here let me pull up this name hold on what’s this guy’s name uh Jerry dianis so he said if the money is close Haywood will stay in Miami you combine his perseverance to get to the NBA with his tougher toughness character and work ethic he personifies heat culture it gets it gets better it gets better Haywood will be a perennial all defensive player going forward dianis said what’s really special about him is his versatility his size strength and 7 foot one wingspan allow him to guard one through five Rudy go Bears the defensive player of the year but he can’t guard Luca donic Jason Tatum Jaylen Brown Kyrie Irving or Paulo banero Haywood does that and it gives a Hall of Fame coach like Eric spola a huge Advantage we’re not done that is we’re not done Heywood Heywood is an ascending player dianis continued he’s 27 years old and durable he also guards the other team’s best player every night combine that with 40% from three-point range and he is going to be one of the more highly coveted 3 andd players in free agency he just wants to win championships this was all per Anthony Chang and the Miami Herold that is this guy just this guy was spit I love Haywood he I kind of see the vision but he took it a little far that is wild seeing he’s a like going up against it like if you’re if you’re hay Haywood High Smith’s agent you’re like let’s look who can I attack here there’s a team that went to the Western Conference Finals you know this guy’s a multi-time defensive player of the year he’s got nothing on my client nothing nothing on my guy Haywood heith if you ask most NBA fans like casual NBA fans who Haywood heith plays for like last season most people wouldn’t know am I wrong in saying that you’re not but yeah I think I think you’re right but I also think most casual NBA fans also hate Rudy go bear so it was kind of a smart ploy to get people to be like yeah maybe he does have a point that is true if you’re gonna go after one guy it’s easy to go after Rudy goz he is he is low hang corial all defense is it’s the take I think you got to do it once before you can start saying that but I mean yeah it’s like it’s like Jaylen Brown talking about how he’s going to win like five rings before he’s 25 that doesn’t count that does the Taylor Rooks was not interviewing this guy it’s not the same that is that was I was about to come on to this podcast and be like dlon Wright might sniff all defense team he he agent I don’t know agent like he might get all five spots on all defense scon right yeah I was gonna say they might call it they might call it the all Haywood team they go hey wood High s MTH for all five that’s all five position s myth is incredible speaking look up a middle initial or no speaking of myths my new number one this is not realistic I don’t want people to get their hopes up even though I have cuz I’m a sucker magic have added a lot of players Marquel folz just there he’s he’s definitely not resigning I don’t think made a lot of money on the celestial I don’t think he going to be able to recoup that money so if the magic are out there goes bird rights so then you’re immediately down to cap space exceptions or then vetman is the last tier he’s a hard player to fit in a non-shooting defensive point guard and I kind of if I just like look at like you know squint my eyes a little bit make make my vision blurry could that be some version of what Derek white is the shooting is not there so you’re always a peg down but it’s the same concept the same concept defensive minded point guard and put him off the ball I love me some Mar I agree it’s huge issue the shooting is an issue and I agree with you T I think he should be high on the Bucks board and I do think think it’s unrealistic to be able to get him I think he’d be slot in really well next to d w Off the Bench if that’s what it ends up being and I think it’s a great fit but we don’t we don’t have to say Derek white I I mean I think if you get D was dere was almost an Allstar marel was 13th and most improved player award voting in 201920 same thing actually you know what I’m wrong it’s pretty pretty equal I I said some for similar of not that he would be Derek white just the idea of like that playmaker and making his role so little that I think he could thrive in it but the SP I absolutely I absolutely see the vision and I don’t even know the spacing issues might be a little bit but if he’s coming off the bench and you have like a lot of floor spacing on the floor like Off the Bench or in the starting lineup we’ve talked about before Tai how the Bucks don’t necessarily need to prioritize floors when they have guys like Damon Chris on the court because they just have so much gravity in and of themselves that spacing isn’t really an issue when they’re on the uh but even if you have a bench unit with like AJ Green Andre Jackson Jr if that shot tends to keep what it was his rookie season that’s pretty formidable and what if like Tyler Smith gets some minutes Bobby poris starts taking some threes if he’s on the team I’m not going to mention Pat he’s not going to be there I hope we can hope but a guy like he could tear up some bench units absolutely I don’t even know how much of a concern the spacing is going to be because of the play making skills and the defense the defense is what really intrigues me like that combination of defense and playmaking like a switchable versal Defender plus a playmaker absolutely the Bucks should have him super high on the board I I think he starts if he’s here he might tell him to go take on assignments and then like clean up the garbage offense so to speak like Drive in a wide open space that’s all we want you doing offensively do you the thing for him is like can you kind of make him like a Bruce brown type guy that’s the ambition where he’s this really good ball mover obviously versus so defensive piece you kind of forget like I know he obviously went through hell be in Phil but he’s so he’s such a big guard like now compared to you know the top three of wo gets selected after him that doesn’t has not aged poorly based on his own you know struggles and health issues Jason T you know being the richest NBA player uh by one contract in NBA history doesn’t look good but like in terms of where they were at that point in time it’s like you have a guy that could hit that could do everything has really good size he plays bigger or he is bigger than a guard like guard size there was a reason why Marquel Holtz was like this blue chip Prospect it felt like once in a generation type of guy that outside of shooting and he’s not going to be an All-Star he’s not gonna be anything like that but like he’s still going to be in the league for a very long time and he’s still super young you never know what kind of what kind of um change of scenery or just be in a new environment kind of my unlocking him especially when the magic of like rehabilitate his career severely yeah I I think what we’ve learned is he probably you don’t want to meas your starting like on ball player to like carry that load because I think the lack of shooting just makes it too tough but exactly to your point like can you make him a Bruce Brown can you make him an Aaron Gordon like can you like will you screen for Damon roll like will you screen off ball will you cut to the basket and then defensively Raise Hell spray passes all over the place he’s about 6’4 65 and like a a big 64 65 like you’re not moving him he’s how do I say he’s wide yeah he’s a road grader for the for guard size he is a big guard still have fo he’s a what road grer it’s an old NFL term for like a right tackle who just like move guys out of the way gotta that’s my vision for faults just like setting a bruising screen to Spring Team Rolling to the rim like I I love the idea especially as a yeah like a short playmaker like that’s that’s I want that’s what I want that’s what I want the Bucks to do uh he is 26 years old barely uh just turned 26 and very late May so he’s been 26 for a month bunch of bunch of career ahead of him and I could see him getting to a point where it’s like okay this is unusual it’s it’s going to be a different role for me but I don’t have any great offers I can go start on the Milwaukee Bucks and make that starting five pretty ridiculously talented given what he can do besides shooting and then probably again rehab Dev value go get a big contract most likely it’s unfortunate it’s hard to keep players this way but it’s worth it if you can get a year of Marquel fults for vetman I don’t know if that’s at all reasonable but I’ve heard zero Buzz about fults so that’s my that’s my pitch you don’t need to pitch me on it I want to be excited you want to be hear excitement we got some news oh we uh Chris Dunn is going to to the Clippers via sign in trade with Utah o oh according to Jake Fisher so I guess he’s not after after our draft who knows that’s weird well if he wants more than vet Min and that’s really all they can do then but that means he gets at least a three-year contract although I think they can be non- guaranteed years they can that does that does get a little funky but the slippers send just like probably a pick or two they have to send maybe they wouldn’t have to send salary back oh no they probably have to salary match they have to they have to send something back I think that true yeah because they’re in the yeah they’re in the a they’ll be above cap I I wonder I wonder if they’ll try to make this the rust trade because he wants to go to Denver oh and then and buys them out no well or just expand it yeah yeah maybe sends whatever to Utah clay going to Dall Zeke Nagi eat the contract because they they want to get rid of Zeke Nagi and that would that would work for the salary to bring in Russ and cut their team salary I mean we’ll see if any of this happens right but yeah that’s my there’s my fake three-way trade where zek Nagi goes to Utah Chris D on a silent trade goes to Clippers and Russell Westport goes to Denver which is probably like the most boring possible three team sign and trade you could build Jordan Rohan and I are both shared players out of who hasn’t been talked about yet who would you be most excited who would you speak like Haywood High Smith’s agent about if they signed a vetman with the Bucks oh I don’t even know who I would be excited by Ling Walker probably I think he would kind of hit that kind of Niche for me just because I think just having a microwave scorer like him I know know you could reference his playoff game against the Warriors I think it was during that series a couple years ago he’s different than Beasley like Beasley is just like a flamethrower kind of just like catch a shoot guy but the biggest problem with Beasley is that he just couldn’t create his own shot like it everything was like system looks wide open looks run to the corner hit looks that way like it that is super useful and the Bucks have really like gotten everything out of that well as they as they have between him or like Grayson Allen when he was with the team but a guy like Lonnie Walker who yeah you might lose something in terms of like just like overall three-point efficiency but when it comes time to playoffs you just you need smart guys out there on the on the floor that can play multiple positions just do a little bit of everything and you need someone that can create his own shot and if he’s in that equation like I wouldn’t feel all that like I wouldn’t be as like acious about him playing playoff minutes when you need kind of like bench unit guys out there just to like soak up some minutes and get a couple buckets every now and then I totally agree uh let’s rapid fire a couple of guys who are still available Gary Trent Jr uh actually reports the market was cooling on him although I think it’s cool small exception you called it Buzz hasn’t been good I don’t really know why I like I’m so torn on this because at the one point it’s amazing value I think you just have to do it if you have the opportunity at the other didn’t we just get out of the same thing with Billy Beasley like isn’t this the last player the kind player archetype you want to add to the buck I mean I don’t think Gary Trent Jr is much if all like a stouter Defender than bees was but you can’t say no can you no I don’t think you can say no I don’t think you can say no yeah that’s where I’m at too I’d be like that’s but is he better is he better than Malik Beasley almost I keep almost saying Michael Beasley for some reason he is better than Michael Beasley hey than Michael Beasley that’s the question you gota be on the right side of the floor to be better than Michael Beasley he’s on the left side hidden elbow jumpers I think Trent is a better Trent’s a better overall scorer Beasley is a better peer shooter yes I think that’s the right he has a more prolific shot profile than Malik Beasley correct yeah but they’re like the same size I think he’s probably better I think it’s a knockout vetman but it’s not the fit we’ve all been taught like the big athletic Defender it’s far from that it’s not that I don’t want them to pursue that skill set B because I do ultimately think that’s what they need but they might have enough with what they have if one of the guy one young guys Pops I know that’s why like I look at a bunch of these names at the bottom of my list like the Justin holidays Lamar Stevens I’m just like do I even want to try this even Josh aogi like I’m kind of interested in Josh aogi do I really want to ever play him over Ajax though he him I I mean I’ve always liked him I think he is kind of just he’s going to be one of those guys that’s going to always be around and some kind of Championship contend team like how it was with the Suns he is just not a shooter and and he might be a winning player in other regards but like I think you kind of I don’t know like he’s kind him and Tennis Smith are kind of in the in the same category in my mind I think the difference is Smith will at least like get downhill and get to the basket whereas Ki I just don’t think does anything well offensively even on they were putting him in like the dunker spot and he still like it’s like five points per game and shooting 50% from the field on just like wide open shots so I mean I wouldn’t say no to Josh aogi but again it’s like it’s very imperfect and now especially post Delon Wright I think now I start looking at like the rotation spots and I’m like where would he play I think it makes less sense post Alan right right yeah it’s if you want to talk like an impact Defender and I I like Josh I think he’d be a good fit on this team but as you start to fill out this fill out this team you’ve already got like a pretty potent point of point of attack defender on your team now so just bringing in a guy who has just no offensive value is tough speaking of offensive value I think sneakily one of the better options reportedly has not met with the Bucks yet but has met with four other teams Reggie belock I think still has juice look bad didn’t he had a pretty good year last year if I remember correctly at least he hit the yeah the per games are all down because he just never played because they had too many guys yeah but yeah I think you look at the numbers he’s been like a productive offensive scoring SL shooting Wing I thought it was like pretty good like I don’t want to say three and D CU I think that’s become now like this Holy Grail term but like a guy who held up on both ends for the Mavericks on a couple of those playoff runs like was a very important player on those playoff runs with Luca I I could see him sliding in and like kind of jumping into that starting two guard role and running with it and then I think then I think I feel really good about the rotation I still wish they had more versatile bigs but I mean like let’s let’s walk through it real quick now we can go through a couple more names but let’s just ignore the two go spot for the time being Dame starts at the one Chris Giannis Brook at the time being we talk about some Brook rumors too but two or 3 four five Off the Bench let’s just say dlon Wright first guard Off the Bench AJ Green Andre Jackson Jr I think you’re Penning in for real minutes at this point yeah let’s say one of Marjan I guess Pat Conan still here uh and Chris Livingston kind of battling for like the other couple Wing spots then of course Bobby poris is your bench big you’re kind of getting full already that not a lot of spots to go so like some of these vetman guys I’m just like they might just not play if they’re not like a standout player at this point I I can’t uh why not just bring back the rooster at that point let’s see how he plays for Italy he gonna have some games this week oh yeah Giannis plays this week Tuesday and Wednesday qualifying Olympic qualifying tournament yep yep he they got to play the Dominican Republic in Egypt and then if they win they’ll have to go through the knockout round which Slovenia with Luca donic is in and I would imagine Croatia would be their first round opponent it’s them or I don’t know why when we talked about this last I was really high on this New Zealand team I I don’t know what I was thinking that does not look like a very good team so I think it’ll be Croatia yeah probably Croatia and then if they can get past Luca we’ll see yeah that you gota probably assume you have to beat LCA and Slovenia to qualify for the Olympics like it’s pretty intense to get in at this point it’s very tough it’s very tough but it’s always good to see Yiannis play basketball yeah yeah he did play looked good that’s a big update too uh other free agents javante green oh yeah you’re guy I like I’m ined by him I I think I like him the most because even though he’s like 6’4 is like for some reason a power forward and I’m always down to try a new power forward who can help play H at the five for those like closing lineups I don’t know if you ever want to close with Davonte green let’s see how he does but has had like a really productive in small doses career and I would like to take the flyer probably the last guy I’m really excited about on my whole list here if I’m being honest I think he oh yeah makes less sense now I don’t know I mean he he kind of always has been he feels more Lonnie Walker kind of that microwave scorer kind of guy that doesn’t like you’re like oh Shake millon had 20 points like what what is that that classic um classic like everybody knows this but like Bill Simmons being like with Bobby poris when he came to the buck he’s like yeah he’ll drop 20 you’re be like oh that’s Bobby poris okay okay like just like the random Bill Simmons anot but uh I like javante green I think again Uber athletic kind of guy we talked about it on our live stream yesterday do you really understand why he was out of the NBA for almost the entire year last year I think he helps with the Chris conundrum of hey we’re gonna hide you as a wing Defender put you off like off ball kind of thing and I can take on kind of the you know Paul George’s Jason Tatum’s just going into the Haywood High Smith agent voice right now like that kind of Rudy goar can’t do that I’ll tell you that much he can’t do that do you think Rudy goar can defend Stanley Amud and uh practice no no absolutely trat take green can’t I like him too um yeah I think there’s probably five to seven names it depends if we count the unrealistic ones I mean I guess one I think Rohan you brought up last time we did this exercise is there buddy healed Market does that not I don’t know I don’t know are they I was actually thinking about this are him and Trent kind of in the same boat yeah it seems like they’re kind of not a lot of interest or and Beasley I mean all three of them are just sitting there it’s not go now everyone said the Warriors that money’s gone I feel like he goes to I feel the Wizards quickly come to mind it’s going to be like that kind of level team they have a kiss bird already though they do they don’t really need them I don’t know too many shooting Specialists is the market flooded is that what you g to Sayan I think you cut out for a second yeah I think a lot of teams that needed shooting guard help already got it right like if you look at Orlando who needed who got kcp Dallas who got clay uh you look at the Clippers who got someone who I don’t want to talk about but and DK Jones Jr who’s a Gish player and yes that’s not who I’m talking about I I know I know I know like a lot of these teams already loaded up on their guys right they just they they got them so what do you do if you’re a Malik Beasley if you’re Gary Trent like if you’re a buddy heeled I mean the Raptors make sense to keep Gary Trent I mean they have at least partial bird rights on him Philly’s got some I think they have do they have full bird with Buddy they had to renounce they had to renounce his rights to get all that cap space oh they they renounced they renounced yeah so they they’re out of the business of I mean they could bring it back on like vetman but they’re or the 9 million they can clear if they cut bball Paul um but they they they cannot like go over to like give whatever they want to Lowry to H heeld Etc correct absolutely that’s my bad but a lot like it it’s a lot of these teams already have what they need right like if you want to go to Contender if you’re buddy healed you’re gonna have to sign for vet Min I’m sorry but that’s just what it is nowadays thank you uh to the new CBA there’s no middle class in the NBA yep which again if you’re interested in a specialist shooter that could work out for the bucks here I also I’m kind of surprised Tori and Prince is still floating around out there but I I would have to assume okay I I toan Prince can play man but like he made 4.5 mil for the Lakers last year so even just on non bird they could give him a nice little contract so I just I have to assume he’s not really available but I’d be happy if he was there was I believe Jake fiser said some kind of buzz of him maybe going back to LA I mean the Lakers have to sign someone they have to sign LeBron they have to sign LeBron too they they they him they’re holding that help for dear and if they don’t get him then LeBron took a fake pay cut and got lauded for it which is great he’s like willing he was willing to take a Paya he didn’t actually take one but he was going to he was willing to take it if they got yonas valent chunis which is going to like make me chuckle to myself for the rest of my life his list was like Klay Thompson Demar D rozan Casey P Jonas junis oh yeah James Harden who immediately resigned with the Clippers and then yonas big big V what was your what was your most surprising deal Rohan uh besides the Clippers doing what they’re doing I mean probably it might be yonas to the Wizards because it’s like why just why what’s the point like do you need a big man that badly if you want Cooper flag like I mean what’s the plan I I I I so you don’t like it for the Wizards I think you didn’t need to pay him $30 million oh I think it’s such a bargain I was say yeah three years 30 is f i mean I guess but it’s good starting center I think it made less sense from Jonas’s perspective I think I definitely agree with that and I mean Andre Drummond getting 10 mil for the uh from the Sixers like what what is Andre drum moving for you wasn’t he a sixer like two years ago yeah he was and he like you know they’re saying Daryl Mory can only sign guys he knows and Paul George literally everyone except George like he I was literally I was literally about to say I saw a tweet that said Daryl Mor only knows like 15 guys like it’s just it’s just what it is he he only can sign guys he already knows and the guys who he knows hate him so he just has to overpay I I can’t even hate on him that much for it because that is pretty much how gspn came together too but um but yeah I think in free agent terms we’re down to like Jetty Osman now which like every time I say Jetty Osman I’m like 5% less excited about the idea and I wasn’t really that excited to begin with although I do think if you jedy Osman and Pat Conan is still around I think he’d be so motivated you’d get like one more great year out of Pat Conan he’d be like who the hell is this guy he’s like the younger version of Me no I’m gonna go crazy this year play yeah that’s true who does he think I who does he think he is who do you think you are I am exactly whatever that I do I know I don’t know I don’t know what his name is well Weber oh did you know did you have to look it up no I know that at the top of the Dome that’s awesome that’s so awesome um okay I think any other free agents you guys are interested in or should we uh real quickly touch on like it’s barely even rumors but just like the concept of bucks trades I think we could talk about the concept of buck trades I mean the big one is Rook Lopez right there’s been rumors flying around that the Lakers the Spurs oh Chris Paul to the Spurs also surprise oh yeah I I loved it it’s surprising but oh it’s awesome I I it made me feel bad for Chris Paul because he’s like man he’s really not gonna win a ring is he I would never feel bad for Chris Paul I know but it’s just like you you have to respect the guy who’s like I know I’m not going to okay fair you’re right you don’t have to respect Chris Paul like no one’s making you I don’t know why I am they’re sniffing around La marketing so like maybe they’ll quietly actually be very competitive this year I don’t know the Chris Paul effect is real he always improves first season only the Warriors couldn’t make the playoffs with Chris Paul I will say it won’t take much to improve the Spurs from last season so it’s a low bar for him true but we’ll see I’d be actually surprised if they were worse I’d be a lot more I’d be worried if they were worse than last it’d be sickening if they were worse I mean the West might be a little better but they’ll be better would you Jordan tresy putting you on the spot first here Kellin Johnson for Brook Lopez let’s just ignore the other stuff because I think that’s that’s the central Crux of the trade right like the Spurs throwing another little contract or some pick I don’t really think that matters I think you have to at the end of the day you go we are better off in the next two years we’ll say with Kellin Johnson than we are with Brook Lopez I think for if we’re ter if we’re talking in terms of strictly playing ability and just like influence on winning yeah it’s Brook if we’re talking about the 2024 25 Milwaukee Bucks it’s Brook you don’t really have another Avenue un let it you know again trying to find someone that’s equal value in terms of what Brooke brings to both ends of the table it’s it’s really tough it’s really tough I think obviously for the future asset play You’ be like well Kell Johnson’s under contract yeah you’re already kind of like happy about that and like he kind of got lost in the shuffle and I feel like compared to him and like Devon fael for example yeah fael seems more of like the ascending kind of like you feel like he could Outlast him in terms of just be on the Spurs and you know building around him he’s still Kell Johns is still a decent player like he might be one of those guys that like he has to find the right fit for him and right like environment like a more so in a contending team to kind of find that role but I don’t I don’t think he’s I think the the current situation with the Spurs has not really helped him in terms of just like continuing to grow in that sense no he needs Shooters and that was a team without any Shooters I I I wouldn’t be that excited about it I think a lot of people would just for like the sake of it being different but also I think a lot of people are like oh a young athletic forward he might be a great defender most of them aren’t I don’t really think Kellin Johnson is like a you know Renown defensive Prodigy kind of player he’s he’s not a lock down type player he’s more of like a system fit which honestly might be good for the bucks right like that gets back to something you were talking about earlier this offseason Tai where maybe they don’t need just lock down Wing Defenders they need guys who are able to fit within the context of the buck defense which I think Kell would I think he would but I would prefer a little bit more I can’t believe he’s already this is going to be year six for him he’s played five full seasons like he scored 22 per game last year on a garbage team this year was also pretty bad and he’s 15 I think the thing with him is two years ago probably around when he signed this deal on now 39% from three and starting like playing 75 games and then 33% 34.6% the next two years so it’s like that makes it a little tough he’s not a great passer his turnover his assist numbers are okay but not great by any means decent rebounder he’s kind of like a tweener on size like he plays like a power fourward but he’s 6’5 he’s 24 which is actually a little older than I thought I don’t know I wouldn’t be very excited about it to be honest especially now that like who the hell plays center we’re not we’re the Kell Weare thing like if you draft Kell Weare then maybe Tyler Smith yeah who’s Bobby what article was that in a jake piece was like Tyler Smith can step in and play center I was like Dame out of here brother if they’re playing Center what are like what are we doing here at this point that’s BR worked out for worked out for the Mavericks they started Gaff though I I mean like do you then go get like a Nick Richards then maybe I’m back on board a little bit but I Doan if you start Nick Richards you have an issue yeah I think you’re fine if you start Nick Richards I think Smith that’s very true to me Nick Richards has some Gaff to him I don’t think he’s as good but I think the Hornets of it all is a conf I just want every Hornet I think they’re all better than they look I think he’s the Greg row of Daniel gaffords I’ll take that fan row was serviceable would you do Ken Johnson for Brook Lopez Rohan I think you would if you get a pick I I’m happy that John horse does not do the Mory thing of just like we’ll take a step back but we’ll get an asset we’ll do something later because I do think that gets teams into trouble sometimes is my thought on that unless you’re like immed doing something yeah I think you you would have to be able to get like use that asset elsewhere I do think that’s a very good point you don’t want to just sit on it because otherwise what what’s the point you know you have to maximize what you’ve got in order to build like the most competent roster you can around you so if you’re taking in the asset I absolutely agree you need to be able to flip that into something else but I do think I think Brooke is the more valuable player there to what Jordan was saying but I I think in the context of the Bucks I think it could make sense especially if you have another deal lined up and maybe armed with a first you can go get a better S who knows maybe you can go get chuch Cho from the the Wizards chooo that’s what Marcus calls valent junis oh well not for not for at least a couple months you can’t iot that I was like is there a weird uh what is that guy’s name there they have a Nia they actually haven’t resigned him yet so they could trade for him either vich V vich yeah vich not not vich God it’s getting we’re getting to a weird place here would you go get V do you want V I don’t want V yeah that’s fair neither do I I want the version of V that plays Brooke even that’s Fool’s Gold I know but it’s if it’s all the time it’s not Fool’s Gold you know that’s a good point yeah just I don’t know if this is actually no I I don’t think I would do this either there’s like a three-way thing that could work where Brandon Ingram goes to the Kings Brook Lopez to the Clippers oh really yeah oh that’s fun good luck with that he sucks I think he I don’t think he can play which is also what I think about wisan which I’ve seen a couple people trying to do the Wiseman thing I won’t do it hey I’m saying ATL buy out Larry Nance I know that’s all you got for Deonte plus some picks but like can bu out Larry Nance what if the buck signed West Matthews you know what I wouldn’t I wouldn’t hate it I so old he’s very I think it’s really funny that like all the former Sixers are going to the Clippers and now they’re just running for Paul George they’re running for Paul George I saw that’s tweet Nick patum is constantly on the run from Paul George and I was laughing so hard that is pretty much how it played out yeah I think the other team they look at for Lopez deal so that’s why I was looking at a Pelicans thing because they need a center and they really want to get rid of Brandon Ingram I don’t want Brandon Ingram and also the Bucks could not trade Brook Lopez for Brandon Ingram he makes too much like you could take in Harrison Barnes but like I’m not taking back Harrison Barnes for Brook Lopez I like Harrison bars I just think Brook Lopez personally is better obviously means so much to the team I don’t want to do that if you can get herb Jones for Brook Lopez I’m very moved I’m going to assume you can’t do that but if you can’t I do think maybe a little bit more likely now if they’re selling themselves on dejonte Murray as a defensive player maybe who’s their starting center EES Missy is is truly that I it is I mean they traded they lost valentinis I don’t know why they didn’t just pay him $10 million a year which is very reasonable cost they traded Larry Nance Jr uh I think oh yeah I forgot about the yeah Dan Billy hernon Gomez is a free agent or is that from years ago Cody Zeller from years ago know I think I think it’s Cody Zeller I think he’s not signed they’d have to resign him he’s a he’s the very last player on my big board he is 40 I imag like I imagine you resign Cody do right if you’re the Pelicans I would jump off a cliff if my starting center went from evees Missy to Cody Zeller Cody Zeller is a good option ask that question Cody Zeller is a good Center option if your first four centers quit basketball midseason the kind of did like let’s get rid of all the good ones let’s get they’re committed let’s get rid of them that’s really funny can’t believe you that with a straight face I would sign Daniel Ty I would I would beg I would plead with Xavier Tillman Xavier Tillman’s changing my whole life if I’m staring down at Cody Zeller Cody Zeller going up for the tip in the first game of the year I would cancel my [ __ ] podcast it’s like Zion it’s like trust me guys we got this trust me Cody’s gonna be okay we’re gonna we’re gonna have it as the thwn maker Memorial start we’re gonna bring in Missy right away but we gotta have Cody’s other jump ball we’ll call a timeout right after the jump ball if you need us Toody’s got start I can’t I don’t know why they put themselves in this position they really didn’t have to you couldn’t have given valun $33 million you could have done literally anything else yeah so maybe they I I actually think they could get desperate enough to up herb Jones potentially but I don’t I want to say I don’t find it likely I’m saying I think it could happen it could happen I’m not saying it will happen I’m not saying it’s likely Pelicans people have really pushed back on me saying this listen man you look at you think about Cody Z starting games more see what you come away with yeah but they also have Brandon Ingram so maybe they trade him for a center I I don’t know very weird but even like who like if you’re training a trading bi who’s like a salary you can get back a big oh God oh God what are the Bulls doing at that point who what what’s a team fit well next to Josh giddy that’s what the Bulls want to know what’s a team that you think um Brandon Ingram would fit well on I think most teams I think almost no teams I think he kind of sucks he does suck but he’s also like he’s he’s I don’t think he’s that good honestly but I don’t think he’s going to be a detriment to any team I think he’s kind of always like he doesn’t he’s been on two teams yeah but I just think he’s been on a lot of different situations like I don’t think he really does anything off the ball and he doesn’t really do anything on defense and like you have to be really good offensively if you’re going to do those things and he’s good offensively but I don’t think he’s that good offensively Maybe I’m Wrong I mean he’s got a lot of tools he’s got an insane frame like all the potential in the world I just don’t think he’s really realized it I’m trying to think of like is there a move where Ingram goes somewhere Lopez goes to the Pelicans and something really exciting comes back to Milwaukee do the Rockets want Brandon Ingram do they want to consolidate players down into him they feel like they have too many guys they want to win sooner I mean we could we could come back to like the I don’t know we could come back to the Brooke Dylan Brooks to trade yeah like I’m I’m saying if if Houston’s more excited about Brandon Ingram like you could throw that Wrinkle in there shenon they have shenon like they have a center also Stephen Adams oh yeah yeah the Stephen Adams trade that kept going around for Brooke I was like he hasn’t played in a year and I like he’s just not a fit at all no not really not at all but I’m just look I’m looking at like big men around the league and it’s this is a depressing yeah depressing if I’m a Brook Lopez is a commodity man I’m so I think I think has more value than a lot of people who are low on him think and I also think I’d be fine keeping him I’d rather trade poris and and C but that’s hard to do with second apron especially after the way the draft went yeah absolutely yeah yeah you got to you got to see if you can package uh Bobby and Pat yeah and trade Lopez with no plan you might end up get ready to learn Cody Zeller buddy I think the I won’t I won’t quit the Pod but I’ll I’ll whine about it on every single episode until they fix that I might quit I will start every episode with 10 minutes of are you serious guess who’s guess who sucked this week Cody Zeller shocker I feel bad I hope because he can’t jump Cody Ze it literally doesn’t jump he’s not even that big we can’t talk about Cody Z if you beanis and Dame and you’re starting Cody Zeller at Center that’s embarrassing like might as well just start AJ Green at Center like I’d rather have AJ Green play the five than Cody Z I would tell people I know who aren’t Bucks fans like not to watch like when you like ashamed I be like don’t turn on the Bucks game don’t I don’t stop asking me about like you don’t want someone to come over to your house if it’s like in bad condition that’s how I’d feel about the basketball team I would prefer you don’t see this squad it’s too messy it’s it’s not it’s not right for human consumption it’s that it’s that uh it’s that Meme of the the Bugatti in the rundown house with there’s two Bugattis yeah there’s two Bugattis there’s a Ferrari and then there’s just like a steaming Rusty pile but you’re in the tarp in the way and they they can’t they can’t pull out of the driveway they’re stuck where those hyenas were at in The Lion King yeah waste area yeah exactly or the elephant I just keep doing Lion King references I I know other movies I promise I believe you I was a little sad that they didn’t get Mason plumbley on the vetman because it would have completed the Plumley trifacta it would have all three play I have to imagine the Bucks would have been the only cuz Marshall did Marshall play anywhere else Nick I think you’re right with Nicks but I don’t think they had the other also we haven’t had Cody Z but we had t z that true that was no that was that was the the kid got fired pry took over here oh that was way back then wow oh we thinking of L cornette yeah I did see Luke cornette went kobia recently and I was like that’s kind of crazy yeah Marshall only played for the Knicks and the Bucks miles played for the bucks Suns Hawks Pacers and hornets and Mason has played for the most te actually no he’s just been around the longest Nets Blazers nuggets Hornets Clippers and he went back is that where he went is he a Clipper still Suns right oh Suns you’re right he Phenix Phoenix Phoenix Phoenix yeah I like that fit for them so yeah now he might have the most teams now but yeah the Bucks could have been the only one or last I’ll have to try again next year is there anything else to talk about I I don’t think they have I don’t think they have to try again next year actually they have to try again next year his his free throw shot is abysmal I will say remember when he like like would do a jump shot and it’s like it looks like a baby bird is like hatching from your arm like that is hey the Bucks have a baby bird so it’s all good he shot 70% from the line this this last year maybe Jana should try that that’s depressing what you’re like this guy shot 70% from the line Y should learn from him I think he should try the one-handed one first he should probably I think the one was that soand who does that I think the one-handed one would actually work for him for Hest his hand’s so big just it in RP to the soan experiment at point guard for the Spurs and for good reason God thank God thank goodness that was horrible basketball do you know I think does he play for team Poland does he actually Poland I think he plays for team Poland yeah good for him indeed I think now that we’re talking about Jeremy soan in Poland yeah I think we can wrap this I think yeah it’s time to no other bombs so I think we’re good yeah unless something happens as soon as we start recording which it probably will so we’ll wrap this up quick say thank you for listening to this episode here on gspn make sure you’re subscribe to wherever you’re listening to 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The Milwaukee Bucks made their first 2024 NBA free agent signing on Monday when they agreed to terms on a veteran minimum contract with Delon Wright, the defensively-gifted combo guard who most recently played for the Miami Heat. Ti Windisch, Rohan Katti, and Jordan Treske shared their full analysis of the signing, Wright as a player, and whether he fits best as a starter or coming off the bench.

The Bucks also agreed to terms on a two-way deal with former Pistons forward Stanley Umude, a promising defensive prospect who has shown some flashes of being a good shooter too. After discussing Umude, the group moved on to cover available free agents still on the board who would fit well in Milwaukee, and then eventually spit-balled some potential trades given the Brook Lopez rumors persist.

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