Who Should Start for USA Basketball at the Olympics? | The Bill Simmons Podcast
it’d be really tough for America not to win this I’m trying to figure out it there would have to be some sort of ego Alpha Dog weirdness on the team I think for them not to is it well that’s the thing aunt says that thing today about they know I’m the number one option I was like okay here we go this could get interesting because I guarantee embiid thinks he should probably get the ball at the end of games LeBron is where to have the ball in his hands in big situations then it’s gonna I think it’s going to be a hard team to coach you you have all these uh you have older players you have players in their primes you have players on the way up trying to prove something and they didn’t do the thing this year when uh they put the two at the end of the bench who clearly aren’t playing like all these like halberton is probably the 12th man on this team now halberton was in the Eastern Conference Finals you know so I don’t I think it’s G to be a hard one then you have the kawhai piece of it um there’s not a ton of Defense once you get past the Tatum Edwards Drew bam Davis Kawai if you want to have the defensive lineup so I don’t know I don’t know how it’s going to play out why are you smiling R well because he said I’m worried about the defense then you just went through the guys I went through six but six guys that probably aren’t half of those guys aren’t playing at the end of games like they’re Bam’s not gonna play crunch time Kawai I don’t know at this point what he will be able to consistently give you um maybe he’ll be terrific I don’t know but there was one they’re just gonna I’d imagine they’re just going to defer to the older guys has it always been is this the best example of like an absolute Changing of the Guard roster well they had a 9 to2 I guess like maybe 08 would be the other example but even then like Kobe was in his prime yeah this is I guess because the guys are so much older now yeah you know where you have LeBron is almost 40 and Durant you know the you have guys from drafts that happened 20 years ago and 17 years ago mik get here’s my starting lineup tell me if you guys agree with this Edwards and Curry is the back court embiid is the center and I think Durant starts because he has that long Olympics thing and then the next question for me is is it Tatum or is it LeBron starting and I I can’t imagine LeBron not starting LeBron Tatum’s not going to start he just won the title he’s in his prime and he’s like the perfect International player but I don’t think he starts I think Durant and LeBron start over him so it’s embiid Durant LeBron Edwards Curry or does Kawai get the Edwards spot and they go embiid Durant LeBron kawhai Curry and they don’t have a two guard what do you think Cy if I’m the Clippers and kawhai starts for USA Basketball like that’s I’m going to be pretty bummed out about furiated that’s that’s not awesome uh you lose Paul George and then you know watch kawhai have an awesome Olympics and then gets hurt again next year that’s not what you want to see so I I don’t know I I wouldn’t start Kawai unless he’s just unbelievable in Camp and we don’t know but yeah I think I think Curry Edwards I don’t there’s no way le Lebron is the first guy on the team in in the five I just there’s no way not LeBron has to start yeah I agree yeah and like you know it’s not an anti-m thing but yeah that’s LeBron’s gonna start first of all Lebron’s gonna start and I think Durant’s gonna start just that’s going to happen right you know what I loved about the pictures you know when we first saw the Durant picture next to Bosch and you’re like wait a minute somebody’s height is a lie because Durant was that much taller than Bosch we saw him lined up did you see the picture of Tatum next to Bam Tatum’s huge so I’m glad you noticed this because I noticed this in person I think Tatum’s 610 now I do too I noticed this at the finals going to the games watching him stand next to different people and I’m like there’s he it feels like he was closer to 611 than 69 like he might be like growing you think he’s huge I I’m kidding about is he still growing thing but whenever these guys are lined up next to each other I’ll look for it like who because you know you think of bam positioning it’s not like Bam’s listed height is wrong because there’s a picture of gobear and wemi the other day yeah where wem’s a full head taller than somebody’s lying yeah yeah and I think it’s because wemi is the first player I’ve ever heard prior to the draft that the agents actually were hoping to figure out a way to lie about his height going the other way like nobody’s ever wanted to be shorter ever in the history of the leadup of the NBA draft but there were people like he’s actually like 75 but they want him to be like 73 and then when he’s next to two lied Kareem lied and Bill Walton lied Kareem was like 74 and a half and I think he used to say he was 72 and Walton was absolutely at least s foot2 wasn’t porzingis in that category too I feel like porzingis it was like kind of getting weird there at the top S3 73 yeah he’s a legit he might even be like a whiff taller than 73 you g him 73 and a half are you yeah I would but Tatum I there there’s no way Tatum’s not 610 and I was thought Durant was the other one I feel like Durant might be like Durant yeah yeah seven seven yeah yeah like a seven and 38 something like that but he’s definitely s feet or over I 71 Bam’s listed at 69 so as a center you said I think Bam’s like 68 yeah there’s a good chance he’s probably not see I didn’t I didn’t look at the Tatum bam part and go Bam’s lying I just thought I can’t believe how big Tatum looks next to him and that he’s at least 610 at least and it also when I saw him going up against Gafford of the post it’s not like Gafford has listed at like 611 is Gafford listed at 6 10 that was the beauty of like Tatum and I’m just G to forever be pissed off about Jaylen Brown getting both Conference Finals MVP and NBA Finals MVP because it’s not something that I’m upset that Jaylen Brown has just seeing what Steph had to deal with and all the [ __ ] post 2015 until he finally got here seven years later when in fact like Curry was the guy that was making all of this stuff happen for Tatum to be playing point guard for as much as he was and then also defending centers throughout the playoffs and like he was the most important player even with the bad shooting stretches that he had in the finals um but the the first impression with the finals part of it was just going to be such in favor of Jaylen which is which is fine but watching him physically and then seeing that picture you’re like are we talking about like a 610 guy that’s playing point guard in the NBA Finals that’s defending centers is Tam underrated Bill well this is what we talked about the playoffs is whether there was another another level another stop for him I always feel like it’s the physicality that’s the next piece for him and guys yeah and that 8 to 12 range would I will say really quickly if if you’re putting together the five that like just on paper you think works the best together I I think you can make an argument Tatum over KD is actually the right basketball move right all right so let’s do this as an exercise your Five Guys if it was just like who are the who are the best Five Guys we have to close games with that you would trust the most because that to me Tatum has to be over Durant because of his two-way ability at this point and and the fact that he’s younger I just think he has to be and he beat Durant and pl series two years ago I just think he’s a better player at this point um I would go embid are you sure yeah and and of games well depending on who the if was the team that it was just clearly it would be easy buckets for him Uruguay yeah yeah he’s probably not pass but if we’re going for best possible team that could play defense and resemble a finals team then ad has to be the center right so you just ch play Tatum at five I’d go small I’d go yeah I wouldn’t play a center I wouldn’t play any of those guys so would you go Tatum Durant LeBron Edwards Curry or Tatum Durant Booker Edwards Curry or Tatum Durant Drew Edwards Curry Drew is not going to make uh this closing Five in any they’re going to need him in these Olympics though because understand there’s gonna be a there’s gonna be a team where there’s gonna be some [ __ ] little guy going nuts and Drew is gonna be the guy who’s gonna have to guard him you’re gonna like shy I kind of agree like it’d be really fun to just watch five ball handlers out there and see what happens but there’s also going to be a match up in international play where there’s just going to be horrified of embat they’re not going to be able to do anything with that’s I think it’s be R I like the Tatum Tatum’s like the perfect like small ball stretch International five has your mood entirely changed as we just theorized on what Tatum might be you you have a pep you’re closing strong glad you’re glad I’m glad that you noticed that he grew um I do think embiid as this crazy weapon we haven’t had this since Shaq in like 1996 like certain teams were just like and be just Way Big Bigg than anyone on your team he’s just going to score every time now for the next next like five plays will’ll be fun to watch right I mean you’re sitting there going like I don’t know if Mitchell Robinson can do it on his own I’m worried about the Celtics Frontline depth Horford getting a little bit early I’m worried about Belgium although I don’t know off the top of my head with my luck it’ll be like actually Belgium has this really awesome huge guy yeah there’s it might not even be in the Olympics I don’t know yeah it’s it’s a weird team I wish they had like one more roll guy but in general [Music]
The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo and Steve Ceruti to discuss the starting lineup for Team USA at the 2024 Olympics.
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44 Comments
Embiid on our national team is a joke on many levels.
The title should just say Jason Tatum.
Sometimes Bill sounds like he knows less than the average fan on the street lol
Sure, lets have Tatum at the 5 against France playing Wemby and Gobert!
Its lebron curry durant embiid and tatum its not hard and bill didnt even say embiids name with defence lebron locked in is a plus defender and kd is a plus defender.. Lebron wont always be locked in but he probably only plays 25mins a game.. They will be fine if they didnt have embiid they would have some issues
I think it should be Steph, book, Bron, KD, embiid.
Tatum is NOT Kobe
Tatum is highly overrated
Yall forgot Jaylen Brown & Jrue won the Celtics chip, not Kobe wannabe Tatum
Tatum is not 7ft 😂
Jaylen brown was finals MVP.. Tatum was complete ineffienct and took some of the dumbest shots and Jaylen defended LUka the best player the most this is such bs.. Yeah if tatum doesnt take dumb shots he would look better.. Tatum over KD did this guy watch the last olympics the only reason they won was KD.
Just have a different starting lineup every game.
That was not a good segment. Aparantly tatun is 6'10 with no flaws. Plays pg and c in the same game and is awesome at both. In reality he is somewhat unreliable and not the offensive weapon that kd is. He isnt 6'10 by the way. Bam still looks a hair taller and he is 6'9 ish.
For a while, Ceruti looked so still that I thought he had technical difficulties with his internet.
Why do you people constantly lie about NBA players' heights?
How tall is Tatum compared to AD
lol Bill is an obama supporter
Tatum is better at this point than lebron, but lebron should start as a point porward, curry is not a traditional pg so it makes sense to play him with lebron. I would also start Booker over Edwards, play Haliburton and Edwards together
I would start Steph, Tatum, LB, KD and AD. My Bench rotation would be Ant-Man, Kawhi, Jrue and Embid. I would throw in Booker, Haliburton and Bam just to make sure everyone gets some burn.
The USA Basketball Team has nothing to worry about in 2024.
I'm very curious about Embiid, and I'm not entirely sure he can play FIBA rules.
Starters: lebron, curry, Tatum, kd, Embiid
KD lied down about his height in the draft
Tatum in no stretch of the imagination should he start of AD.
Bill is slipping.. Tatum has been 6'10" for about 3-4 years now….. He hit a growth spurt while in the NBA early on in his career (19y/o rookie)
Curry Tatum James kd embiid
Which is cute though no chance against the Boomers 💪
Tatum is too streaky to start in international competition
To the point of Gobert looking way shorter than Wemby, there's a video of Gobert ducking the photo as a joke to make it look like that.
Only morons think LeBron shouldn't start.
James, Curry, Embiid, Tatum and Durant are my starting five.
Durant and Lebron start, Team USA loses gold medal game to France, Serbia or Possibly Latvia!
No, LeBron will start, let's get real here. Tatum is already established as the take-it-for-team guy, plus you know Kerr is gonna use Tatum and Jrue as band-aids/swiss-army knives.
bronny jr.
Curry
Edwards
LeBron
Durant
Embiid
Bill would love for the US to lose to shit on Lebron
Kawhi couldn’t play in the playoffs and can play in the Olympics? If I’m Steve balmer I’m pissed
Steph – Ant – Lebron – AD – Embiid
Team USA are in for a rude awakening this summer
Durant has been lying about his height his whole life so he doesn’t have to play in the post😂 He’s 7ft but was saying he’s 6’9
Just switch the lineups depending on your opponent
The 96 team switched the lineups when certain teams had bigger players.
This years team have the ability to just switch up guys.
USA now needs a French center to win gold? LOL
Bam is absolutely not going to be playing crunch time. Not with that offensive skill set. Not unless AD and Embiid are both injured, which is absolutely a possibility.
tatum over durant in the clutch is a joke, tatum is a mad choker
If they could stay healthy
Curry Kawhi Lebron AD Embiid
But it might be
Curry Dbook Lebron KD Embiid
The Europeans don't really favor small ball. It's really more an American thing. Most of the time Team USA struggled against a European team, the latter usually had some dominant center parked in the middle.
Kd has been to successful in the Olympics to even think about bringing him off the bench for tatum
USA 4th place.