Have the Chicago Bears found their ‘Perfect’ QB in Caleb Williams? | CHGO Bears Podcast

Have the Chicago Bears found their ‘Perfect’ QB in Caleb Williams? | CHGO Bears Podcast

n [Music] let’s do this it’s a Sunnyside Thursday and we’ve got a perfect quarterback and a perfect conversation with the division rival coming at you live on the sunyside summer Thursday it’s the chg O Bears podcast my good friend Nicholas Morano head to Sunnyside dotshop for the nearest Sunnyside cannabis dispensary and use the code h i c HG o for 35% off your first order bright buys every day it’s only for 21 and over or Illinois medical card holders Nick you’re perfect wow I’m perfect Steven’s perfect Greg Braggs Jr and brags land is perfect it’s a perfect day man Jaylen Johnson on Jim Rome talking about a perfect quarterback we’ll get to that in a little bit that was exciting I I liked that clip yeah it’s a good clip and I think we also have a perfect guest to preview the NFC North Detroit Li yes so locked on lions our guy up in Detroit been with us before a hero of mine straight out of w AER the the the top of the mountain coming out of college and just crushing it no one knows the World of Sports like Matt Derry does and he joins us right now on the chgo Bears podcast Matt how are you how are you planning for the Lions you know disappointing this year and the bears taking the North and Caleb being the best quarterback in the land are you bracing yourself for all of that shots fired yes Karm kmen Nick I I 100% am we talked off air before we started I don’t even think there’s rumors and I have my lion schedule here I know when the the Lions go to Chicago on the 22nd of December uh there’s rumors the Lions aren’t even going to go they’re just going to Forfeit and they’re gonna just give the win because there’s no reason to show up because they can’t stop Caleb Williams by that point but uh no in all seriousness is this is a positive in that the division is getting better and there’s not these automatic wins not that to be honest the last two years the Lions had some automatic dubs against Justin fields for some reason as I dubbed him Hall of fields uh now uh running that backyard offense in Pittsburgh but uh hey it’s exciting for Bears fans and you guys should be excited it’s going to be interesting to see where they land Chicago by the end of the year I mean to be completely honest when even in like the Bears chat that we have here everyone’s looking up to the Detroit Lions at this point so do you think the lion I I guess what are your expectations for this season obviously NFC Championship game a season ago but just in terms of what this roster has what are your expectations is this the year is this it well you know it’s interesting there some people are using the term here in Detroit Super Bowl or bust I’m not ready to go that far Nick W with your question I I think this team can get back to the NFC championship game and then let’s see how it plays out remember in that game last year the lions were you know at a 20-point lead going into the half things were looking good 23-point lead and and things were great and to be quite honest the second half they got exposed a little bit with poor cornerback play they started the NFC championship game with Cam Sutton on one side and kindall vildor on the other you guys know vildor so now it’s like you got terion Arnold you got Carlton Davis you got Andis rraw you got aiek Robertson they’ve added so many corners to the mix that they’re going to be better there and they’ve added DJ Raider at the D on the D line they needed another interior defensive lineman everybody’s back from the offense um so I I feel good about where they’re going to be question’s going to be a tougher schedule a a bullseye now really on their backs going from three wins to 9 to 12 plus adding the two playoff wins uh how will they handle that I I still think it’s a 1011 win football team though so are you a Dan Campbell guy yeah who who isn’t I mean I think that now we’re at the point and I think the people that still bash him say he was lacad isical in his decision made taking in that second half of the NFC Championship Game why is he always going forward on fourth down take the 47 yard field goal take the points and he didn’t do that um but what he’s done for the culture here I know it’s cliche but it’s true the fact that uh you know you got National people rallying around him no one’s making fun of him anymore for saying they’re biting kneecaps the guy can coach he’s a really good coach and I’ve never seen a locker room like this and you know I was around the Pistons when they won the championship Mark and when we saw each other at the palace numerous times you know Larry Brown uh uh Flip Saunders Rick Carlile all good coaches but there was always what’s going on in the corner over here with this guy or or or that guy in in locker rooms good clubhouses Jim Leland running the Tigers had an excellent Clubhouse but there was maybe one or two guys you weren’t sure about everybody is on a string in that locker room in Allen Park Michigan and it’s because of Dan Campbell and no one wants to disappoint him they’re playing for him and um he’s got the best offensive coordinator in football and a pretty darn good D coordinator too on that level were you surprised that he stayed had opportunities in theory at least I was you know I had been told by a couple of people way before the process like December that Ben Johnson was pegged to go to Washington it was going to happen they had new leadership there he fit with what the commanders were looking for they were going to draft a quarterback obviously and they did with Jaden Daniels and he was going to be the the guy to take him to the next level and just didn’t work out and I think Ben Johnson I’ll throw out another cliche unfinished business really does matter to him he wants to win a Super Bowl in Detroit and I also think he’s also looking for a pretty big bag when it comes to getting a head coaching job and it’s got to be the right fit for him so for now uh he’s here and like I said I yeah I’d say I’d be a little bit surprised I’d be shocked if next year we’re having the same discussion Matt when you look at this Lion’s team obviously they have a bunch of Playmakers on both Sid of the football but what are the concerns with this team as you they’re entering the 2024 season um you know what Nick I I would say number one again complacency I mean last year was such a roller coaster ride 12 wins then you add the two playoff wins both at home kind of got lucky playing the Rams and Stafford coming back the crowd was so fired up for that and then week you know in the indivisual round getting a Tampa Bay team in round two it’s like that’s who you’re getting great we’ll take it because Dallas of course got eliminated so uh that’s number one number two I would say the opposite edge of Aiden Hutchinson I mean Hutch reer Al mcneel along that front’s going to be great who’s going to be that other Edge rusher on the other side that’s going to have to wreak some havoc and get to the quarterback they think it’s going to be Marcus Davenport whom they picked up in free agency it’s not a lot of depth there James Houston they like uh you know Josh Pascal’s back they’ve added some others but keep an eye on that I I still I’m concerned sometimes with a lack of pass rush uh but every team wants to have you know that guy look the Bears got montz sweat that would have been a great pick up for the Lions and there was too much draft capital for Brad Holmes to cough up not so much for your guy Chef poles there but I think uh I think the the secondary is Canna be much better I like the Lineback and crew and and the kicking situation is a little bit of a question mark right now too so you don’t mention the quarterback Matt I mean where do you do you think that the Lions have the best QB in the division would you say that yeah I would right now I mean Jordan love obviously if he takes the next step with the way he can also run a little bit uh can be special I’m not sure I would ever say Jared G is going to be special but let’s look at the last two years look at the numbers look at the winning look at the accuracy and yeah he’s got a pro bowl receiver I’m and Rain brown but it’s not like on the other side he he’s got Calvin Johnson still there he doesn’t uh now you you you subtract Josh Reynolds they like some of the guys some of the young guys they have but this is a big year for Jameson Williams um to step up but the the the the relatability that g has with his tight ends with Sam leaport uh the way he runs that offense yeah I I I would say he is right now but of course Jordan love can get there of course Caleb Williams maybe end up being special I mean you spent the first pick overall on him but um we’ll see but I think right now Jared gof yes you mentioned Jameson Williams what I guess what is the expectations for a guy that was a former number 12 overall pick obviously you have Aman Ross St Brown over there Sam laor the weapons there but for a guy like Jameson Williams what does this year mean to him in 2024 I’m not saying Nick that this is it but like it’s close I mean this is year three you said it he’s a first round pick they made a trade to get him a couple of years ago he’s had the suspension for the gambling thing he’s been hurt uh he it took him a second to pick up the Playbook um there were games last year where G found him deep for some shots down the field he couldn’t locate the football one game in more ball hit right in the face mask it was a touchdown uh then there’s other games like the NFC Championship Game you hit him on a little reverse he takes it to the house and runs by everybody that’s a good San Francisco defense so you see some things you like other times you worry um now there’s got to be that consistency he’s definitely going to be on the field more than he’s ever been because like I said Reynolds is gone khif Raymond’s coming back from an injury and they’re not sure they’re number four receivers right now between peoples Jones and Antoine green so um J MO got to do it it’s time and I also think he could be a huge weapon in the kick return game now that the kick return is is back uh in the NFL so we and we’ve debated on on the show here Matt like who’s better am manra DJ Moore I’m actually give me the edge time on I think that’s fair consider considering what he’s done it’s not taking anything away from DJ and today we’re learning that apparently he can play with an oblique that was torn off the bone is what’s your understanding of the Superhuman powers of amanra this seems this seems to be a not true story but yet somehow amanra is able to do things that other humans can’t I’ve heard just about everything I know this Netflix series is out so it’s unmasking some things about St Brown bottom line is this he’s just so reliable he’s very durable when people say he’s too small can’t play on the outside they put him they line him up on the outside and he toast somebody um he’s he’s special man he’s just really really good and obviously a fourth round pick and the 20 receivers that were taking in front of him has kind of become an old bit around here but um man he can he can he can do it all and you know new contract I don’t think that will affect him at all um you know injuries or not playing through injuries or not uh this guy is just he’s he’s the leader of the of the offense I mean Goff is but when when you know you you got to go on Third and eight you got to get that first on a fourth and seven that’s the guy you’re looking for is number 14 team you know another good option is Sam leapor is this like the next Travis C like the the year he had in his rookie season was phenomenal and I went to the University of Iowa so secretly I’m like okay Sam leard do your thing but what has been your just again reaction as to what he did in year one and what he can possibly do moving forward in this offense yeah Nick I had no idea that he would do that I mean come on uh right now most experts think after Kelsey and KD he’s the best and and he’s only in his second year uh it’s amazing how much better he got as a blocker as a season waron uh as a pass catcher the way he was able to to get down the field make plays he was always available he was always open I can’t remember the time he dropped a pass and you look up at the numbers and go setting rookie records for yardage and everything else and we had a really good tight end here with the Lions and TJ hackinson but I think the Lions saw something where they’re not going to they weren’t going to extend TJ let’s get rid of him now traded him within the division but got some draft capital for him good good draft Capital the second round pick too and um and leaport has been unbelievable you’re right I mean can he be any better than he was man that would be that would be something special but was interesting the other day when Travis Kelce was down at that tight end U and they asked him who uh who the best tight end is down there and he said it was without a question Sam leaport I mean you you got to give Brad Holmes a lot of credit the dude’s the dude has a great eye for talent um and leaport is you know obviously somebody that you can throw Under the Umbrella of of dudes that he identified all right uh but let’s let’s go back in time and bring in a guy who’s now playing for the Bears what do you what do you think the Bears have in DeAndre Swift here Matt are are are Bears fans gonna be loving him come the middle of the Season or are they gonna wish that David mcgomery was back in a bear’s uniform all right you just K you just said something interesting will they love him in the middle of the season do you love players in the middle of the Season that are uh inactive because the middle of the season is when DeAndre usually’s got a hip pointer an ankle uh spraining knee you’re gonna love him in August and September but he is just not durable he’s always hurt last year he looked very good in Philadelphia very good and I was impressed also was a contract year so I’m interested in seeing how many games you get out of him because if when he’s touching the football and he’s in space he’s great and I think that’s a nice upgrade the question’s going to be how many games you getting out of him because like you said middle of the year is usually DeAndre deactivated Swift and uh I I root for him he’s a good guy and I think that uh like I said when he’s healthy he’s excellent but question’s going to be durability so would you rather have Swift or Montgomery um well I know I’d rather have Jamir Gibbs than both of those two that you out of that uh you know I I mean yeah I think I think the Lions you know I think they knew what they were getting in Montgomery in terms of I they needed another veteran with the leadership The Experience runs between the tackles um and I like David Montgomery a lot I think Swift is obviously a better pass catcher and could probably be somebody that you’re throwing wheel routes to more than you would 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especially if you get off to a good start in the expectations that are going to mount this is it this is Detroit’s going to do this I do I I I think they they they can I think they’re well grounded I think you know it starts at the very top with ownership and then Chris Spielman obviously has a big role in the front office and just the culture of the operation there and and you mentioned Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell um I think just going to come down to talent and say and health but as far as the mental stuff and people worried about oh they made the NFC championship game last year so now they think they’re hot you know what and they’re going to be so good and there’s there’s no way they’re going to lose and and everything else uh they’re not going to get involved in that you know I I don’t think they’re going to listen to the hype I don’t think they’re going to you know hear the prognosticators who you remember back in the day sports illustrator would put something crazy on the cover like oh the lions are going to win the Super bowl or whatever and maybe that would be the case if that Magazine still existed wouldn’t matter to the lines I think Dan Campbell is gonna have a good message in two weeks a training camp of say one game at a time and all that stuff and we’ve done nothing but let’s take that next step this was a three- win football team a few years just a couple years ago went to three went to nine went to 12 I still think because of the schedule they might not win as many games as they did last year but I think they’re going to be a a better outfit I think they have a better roster not worried about the emotional stuff the distractions stuff in the locker room contracts everybody’s taken care of pretty much uh Lan mcneel and Taylor Decker need to be extended but goff’s Deal’s done pan su’s Deal’s done St Browns deals done um so I think from that standpoint Mark you ask a good question I think they’re okay question’s going to be what if Hutchinson knock on wood got hurt could they get enough pass rush um playing a rookie corner like terion Arnold is he for the for the for the stage those are the things I’d be more worried about than all the hype and people talking about them Matt we were talking about Dan Campbell and the culture that he has obviously created in Detroit where do you see that manifest itself when when it comes to football games where in terms of the culture that Dan is set like you see it out there when the Detroit Lions are playing football where do you see that most I think the coaching staff Nick is really good and they’re empowered how many times have we seen well the o and the DC are not on the same page or who’s calling the plays is it the head coach or the offensive coordinator uh you know in Cleveland a couple years ago Kevin stans’s done a fantastic job with the talk of well should he be calling the place none of that goes on Dan Campbell empowers Ben Johnson call your offense and go I’ll be here to tell you let’s go for it let’s punt let’s kick a field goal whatever it is he allows him that space Aron Glenn the same thing as a defensive coordinator there are a lot of former players on this staff most of the staff all played in the league Antoine Randall L wide receivers coach Hank fry o line coach Mark Brunell quarterback’s coach all these guys played and are not 60 or 70 year old guys these guys have just played recently du Staley was on the staff a few years ago the guys really Buy in really Buy in to their position coaches uh um Kelvin Shepard the linebackers coach is extremely popular that’s gonna be a guy that in a few years is going to be a head coach in this league so staff’s really good and they buy in it’s kind of where it all comes from who’s this defensive lineman Levi aneri can you do that can you do that for me I’m hearing I’m hearing anzu zorki is gonna be a thing here Matt says who who said that that was like that that came out of mini camp that he had a really good spring there’s quotes from Dan Campbell uh you know this is the under you know as if the Lions need more things going well for him Ana workis coming out of nowhere here and uh Levi who yeah if people don’t know own yeah so so so Bears fans don’t need to be worried about on on wuque damn it I’ve never been a fan I I think he’s been underwhelming as a second round pick you want to talk about Brad holmes’ drafts going four years deep now have been phenomenal if you look at the I think it’s 26 or 27 picks that he’s had and I think all but one are still on the roster it’s amazing the amount of guys that are still around and have made it Levi is a guy as a set former second round pick that really has not performed he’s been hurt when they drafted him out of Washington he was hurt and he just never has been on the field enough um and when he’s been on the field it’s been okay it’s contract year for him so if this is the time for him to step up that’d be great because obviously he always could use depth on the interior of that defensive line but yes you’re right he did have a good mini camp but is at the second coming of uh Refrigerator Perry I’m not so sure I’m just letting people know that they’re watching the chg Bears podcast today I love I love it you’re really going deep you’re really going inside with this stuff well we you know we’re we’re listen I’ve already figured out we we got it that golf is is is crushing and I’m and RZ the man and Bears fans are puking are you would you say Matt before and so much appreciate the time love having you great to see you superstar in the media world for a long long time now um would you say that it’s accurate the consensus out there Lions one Packers two bears three Vikings four do you agree with that I do but I will say this I don’t I’m not a huge fan of your coach I I’m not sure he’s the guy I think the talent is is getting better you could just see it uh the roster is much better uh that receiving Corp is scary good uh you know you got some guys uh the question is going to be if mat eflu can get it um because I think the better Coach is Kevin oconnell in Minnesota by far but again everybody’s just thinking on Minnesota sucks well last year if you saw what KOC did and what Brian Flores did I thought that was pretty good for a team that lost their quarterback trotting out a different quarterback every week it seemed like had a lot of injuries on defense knew they were going to lose to Neil Hunter uh and did better than expected so everybody now is you’re right saying what you just said Mark that’s going to be the order Detroit Green Bay Chicago Minnesota but I’m not sleeping on the Vikings I think this division is going to be really really good like I said before lion fans were thinking oh free a free two wins the last few years with the Bears yet Bears should have beaten the lions at Ford Field last year should have and the lions got housed there in the cold weather at uh along the lakefront so none of these games are going to be easy I like Green Bay and what they’ve done certainly but I also think man they really I thought kind of skied a little bit over their shoes uh uh a little bit or played over their shoes a little bit at the end of last year I’m not so sure that’s that good of a team because they probably should have beaten the ners to play the Lions which would have been interesting I’m not so sure that’s going to happen again people are saying oh Green Bay is taking the next step and the Lions won’t I’m not not ready to go there yet with that Matt you mentioned the cold weather in the lakefront this is me from behind the camera over here uh 14 of the first 15 games for the lions are going to be indoors it’s pretty well documented Jared G hasn’t been great and cold weather how big of a favor did the NFL do for the Lions on their schedule uh is that Greg asking that question that is Stephen Stephen um you know I’ll say this Stephen too week three at Arizona is no gimme when you look at the Lions schedule people like oh the lions are going 4-0 in the in September Arizona is going to be better and that coach is is good and they’re trying to model themselves with Monty and Ganon after Holmes and Campbell uh but yeah I mean any CH any opportunity the Lions get to play indoors on that fast track with the speed that they have the quickness they run their offense with golf that’s a huge factor and uh you’re right to only go to Green Bay week nine and play at 425 it’s November 3rd it will be cold but it’s not going to be December you know I mean that one game you’re looking at that’s going to be the one you you question about Golf and cold weather is the Bears game uh the third last week of the year so yeah I think it’s I guess it’s a little bit of a favor but uh Jared G won in Green Bay in week 18 two years ago beat Aaron Rogers ended rogers’s career in Green Bay it’s like never that game never happened because everybody just says Nope golf can’t win in the cold what about week 18 in 2022 so he’s done it did he look good in Chicago last year no no he did not that was his worst game Nick you good I thought I thought you gave me the nod with a power look here I mean we answered all of our questions that we had had in a rundown I feel like our listeners have gained a lot of insight of this this NFC North rival I got I got one more how many teams the north finish over 500 in your opinion um finish over I’m gonna I’m am I be a bad guy if I say the bears go eight and N what did the bears go last year they were seven and 10 predicted accurately by somebody on the show yeah I what what here’s the problem what CJ stra did last year was an outlier he was unbelievable people like oh Caleb will just do what CJ does or Jaden Daniels do what CJ does or you know I don’t that’s a tough that’s tough man CJ stoud that was that was Monster what he did I don’t see Caleb Williams doing that yet I I still think the Bears are an eight win eight n Win team uh you know I I haven’t gone game by game and looked at the schedule but um yeah be it’ll be close it’ll be close Don Burr Chim Rell watch your show do you know because they’re in our show so we’ve got two lions fans that are here every day one is Chim richels who is is oh I see him on the screen now okay yeah and then and then we’ve got Don yeah then we got Don Burr these are these are every day they watch every day every day consistent I love it that’s great that’s great I love it we we love that they’re here but we’d also you know we’d pass them off to you Matt too what else so what else is going on in Chicago let’s talk here uh should we should we bring up John shrien or or or the Bulls off season what should we talk about the the White Sox TV guy is certainly made an impact in in in his in is in a unique way that is accurate uh the Bulls are a disaster that’s accurate um the same the same the 90s and uh you know uh the baseball on both sides of town is really nause but that’s why Caleb is coming Matt this is going to be worst a decade long run uh you know think 80s if you’re the Lions where you know McMahon and pton and that’s that’s what that’s what’s that is about what’s that’s what’s coming and the Bears are GNA own Chicago for for a good period here before Conor Bard takes over they they own oh that’s right well they own them already regardless come on I mean that’s just yeah but this would I love and let let me say this let me show for a second I love driving in the car on some Sundays and putting on Jeff jonia and Tom there I think they’re tremend tremendous I’m huge fan of the radio team uh I miss my buddy Zach zadan being on the sideline Zach’s my guy uh I love I love listening to those broadcasts touchdown Bears I love that love that I’m EXC I always get kick out of listening to those guys JJ’s ready to go there there’s there’s no doubt about it he’ll no doubt he he’ll also you know whenever I see him at training camp and and just in general he looks at me with a cross-eyed look of how do you have a job which I don’t take offense to him that’s that’s okay um wait this is great we’ll trade you LaVine to bring back Ben Jason benetti yeah yeah yeah Greg that’s great why you guys are not the Pistons are embarrassing why can’t you just take Zack LaVine from us we don’t the Bulls just want a tank can you be can you facilitate something up there Derry I’m I’m stunned that it didn’t happen I figure actually if it was the old regime Troy Weaver and Company it that wouldn’t wouldn’t have wouldn’t have surprised me but now Tran Langdon is running the show and uh I don’t think he wants any part of uh of Zach unfortunately and yeah the benetti thing I you know Jason’s doing Jason’s a low to do a shtick here they love him the Tigers let me tell you something the Tigers don’t care about winning here they don’t they you look at the roster but they love benetti he’s like the mayor of Detroit like they love him like that’s all they talk about that was the biggest pickup of the off season organization love no Jason’s amazing and uh that none of what you just said is any surprise to literally anyone except for maybe one person but uh I I I would like to I would like to offer this trade Zack LaVine for jav bayz the Bulls will take jav bayz back and you guys can have Zack LaVine what do you think I was at the uh Guardians Tiger game last night Javi came up and I told my wife who knows baseball but not you know she’s looking at Tik tock on her phone I said watch this he will not see a fast ball it’s going to be all Sliders in the dirt lo and behold Javi rolled over one and it was uh just like old times I mean do it a homer in game one against the Giants back in 2016 he’ll forever be beloved yeah Matt thanks for the time man always great to see you brother continued success talk soon all right guys anytime thanks so much Matt thanks mat Matt der locked on lions my guy uh before we continue our Bears conversation I have to tell everybody about 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who got paid and it’s going to be here for more than a minute in Jaylen and he’s telling you that the new quarterback is fitting in perfectly that’s uh I don’t think there’s anything not to like about that Nick no and even like the last part in that uh quote graphic we just showed how the defense challenged him and he responded that’s also obviously what you want to see out of a rookie quarterback going against a a veteran defense in the third year of Matt io’s scheme like they’re going to test this guy how is he going to respond when he does get tested when he plays good defenses in this first rookie season like you’re you’re doing all that now to see what that response will be and so far um it’s been perfect for Jaylen Johnson and how this defense is kind of looking at him and being the leader of this Bears team right right now I think some people perhaps Gary are misunderstanding me I’m not saying this is there’s a there’s any negative here I know about saying that he actually thinks he’s quote unquote perfect but there is ways in which you can when ask the question how he can talk about him and he gave he went over the top with his flowers he didn’t have to do that no he he could have said look uh Caleb’s doing great Caleb’s uh you know he’s he’s uh he’s working hard he’s still learning you know it could have been anything like that yeah he could have said that to Caleb’s Caleb’s are learning he’s you know he’s he’s he’s coming he’s doing the right things so my uh bold analysis of this if you will is that the Bears his teammates have actually been impressed with him and Jaylen also said in the same interview he’s trying to figure out how the narrative that he was this Hollywood guy even got started because he’s so opposite of that and that doesn’t mean for the record that he’s gonna come in and be CJ stad to the conversation we’re just having with Matt Derry um the you would bet that he isn’t GNA be as great his rookie year which is a whole another conversation that I’d like to have with you well I think even J I mean Jaylen was the one who said like the Hollywood thing he can’t bring that Hollywood stuff into the locker room but then also said it got taken out of context because again again he he mentioned like the media took it out of context but that he hasn’t seen any of that and again we’ve been around Caleb at the combine we were there for pro day we were obviously there at house Hall like he doesn’t he has an an aura around him but I don’t I wouldn’t say it’s like Hollywood look at me look at me I’m in you know all the lights are on me it’s no that that’s been further from the truth when it comes to Caleb so again I think that’s just it reinforces everything that what teammates have said coaches have said and just people who have played against him even have said like Caleb is not just about himself but looking to obviously be you know a a team player uh a leader and obviously this franchise quarterback that this team desperately needs yeah and it doesn’t mean that he’s going to be a great player on the field but we all have seen the insane Talent of what he has throwing balls against his body being elusive the the cannon of the arm the the work ethic of where he comes from there’s a reason why he was the consensus number one overall pick there was little to no debate about it sure people started talking about Jaden Daniels and whatnot but that was never a thing where the Bears even remotely considered it I don’t think anyone would have remotely considered not taking Caleb number one overall so the locker room and the personality stuff about it if you re if if you rewind back to the middle of the college football season last year and the crying and they not speaking to the media that was a it was a thing it was a conversation it was a it was a Wonder like who who is this guy and I just think in very very quick time we’ve learned that Caleb is solid man he’s he it this is not he’s going to be able to handle the media he’s going to be able to handle the locker room he’s going to have Roma they throw out the first pitch when they show up at guaranteed right field for a White Sox game he’s going to put others on his team first these are things that you know that that part of the equation of whether or not he’ll make it to me is already silenced that his mentality is not going to be the problem it it’s whether he can make the adjustment to the insane amount of talent that’s on an NFL football field a massive step up from college and he can find his comfort zone out there I would bet that he will be able to do it but that’s the question it’s not whether or not he’s gonna he’s going to have the the the head on his shoulders to be able to handle being in the NFL yeah and again as we’ve gone through the off season that part of it like if that’s part of the equation if Caleb will be successful in the NFL for me and I think for a lot of people that has been put down you know as one of the reasons that you’re just not even considering at this point because he does have his head on straight he’s known what he’s wanted to do for a very long time and he’s achieved with being the number one overall pick but he also has what eight times for Super Bowls on his screen savers so there are lofty goals that he still needs to accomplish and if you don’t have your head on right I don’t know if you’re going to be able to accomplish that in the way that Caleb wants to do it so I mean that’s that’s sweet that he wants to do eight and or seven or four one one would be one would be great just just one seriously just give give me I I’ll I’ll sign up for if you to if here’s a question for you Nick if I told you right now you can sign up for a that Caleb will win one Super Bowl in his career with the Bears or you could roll the dice and go for more which what are you are you rolling the dice or are you taking the one it’s like a Matthew Stafford Ram situation here one go all um Aaron Rogers Packer Brad farre packer I think I mean am I wrong for saying you go for that one like to get at least one because it’s not there’s no guarantee like a guy like Aaron Rogers that’s all he has Matthew Safford that’s all he has and they’re in contention I mean that that that would even be fun as a Bears fan to be in contention to win and you just don’t you end up a little short but I mean just knowing that you’re going to at least win one Super Bowl I want to experience that before I die Stephen I think I think take the one I I just need if it’s a sure thing you’re you’re promising me one I’m taking it and I’m running just because still like Nick was just saying on my lifetime I have yet to see that I want to make sure I see that at some point that be a good like yeah like you’re taking the one Super Bowl or you’re rolling the dice right well as a fan base I think most people would take the one considering the fact that I would I don’t know 90% of the people that are that watch or listen to this podcast had weren’t there to really experience 85 like old man Karm right here um so but that’s you know I mean now I’m almost feel like we’re in a Mark Zuckerberg Facebook uh you know do you do you go for the do you go for the huge uh huge whale and get go for a billion dollar and get the billion dollar evaluation or you just going to take the the million dollar and get that one but the thing is that we haven’t you know we haven’t seen him play we don’t know if you saw if he had if he had a year like CJ had last year I’d tell you you’re insane to to go for one exactly you roll the dice you roll the dice but we don’t know we don’t know what we don’t know I we we I I feel like we know the mindset I feel like we know he’s gonna be a good teammate I think we know that I feel like I know that I’d be stunned if he turns into some huge problem in that locker room I would not bet on that at all but what we don’t know is how good of a football player he is yet that we at the NFL level yeah at the NFL level you know he you know people keep on talking about in college he faced a three-man rush 20% of the time he ain’t seeing that in the NFL he ain’t out running linebackers in the in the NFL they’re going to chase him down yeah you know how how good can he be at getting rid of the football under duress putting in a tight window playing the toughest position in sports I think he’s going to be able to do it but but until you see it you know everyone’s guessing yeah and as as rightfully so so we again we have to wait and see how it all plays out but again we’ll get to see a little bit starting here in training camp uh July 16th Bears rookies report and then train Camp will be underway uh Mark before we actually started our show we put out a poll question okay asking Bears fans uh maybe was a tough question simple question but is Montes sweat a top 10 Edge rusher in the NFL and just to go back and see what that poll is doing real quick of course Bears fans 81% say montz sweat is a top 10 Edge rusher in the NFL while 19% say no and this uh was done there was an article on ESPN by Jeremy Feller that actually ranked the top 10 Edge rushers in in the NFL and let me spoil it for you guys montz sweat was not on there in the top 10 he did get an honorable mention but the top 10 guys that Jeremy Fowler had miles Garrett TJ watt michah Parsons Nick Bosa Max Crosby Aiden Hutchinson denil Hunter at seven Josh Hines Allen at eight Trey Hendrickson at nine and number 10 Ryan Burns are we F montz sweat into that that top 10 there is montz sweat better than any of those guys because I think I can make the case that he could be number 10 but I’m looking at you mark you’re looking over the list you’re trying to see how can I put Mont sweat as number five but you don’t think at this point in his career he’s not better than 29 going to be 30y old Dil Hunter well uh right now I mean denil Hunter’s been a double digit sa guy understand I understand but you’re you’re talking about a dude I mean it’s not a huge age difference but three years point three years uh Hendrickson can’t stay on the field that’s what that’s what another one see for me like if you look at 78 n and 10 uh Hunter Allen hry Burns there’s a case that can be made there’s a case that can be made I ain’t taking him over Hudson Crosby Bosa Parson watad Garrett obviously yeah so number 10 is interesting Brian Burns because Burns and Montes Sil were actually in the same draft and Brian Burns was the I believe 16th overall pick while Montes sweat was 26 overall in the 2019 NFL Draft so just kind of comparing some of the stats on these two guys uh let’s just go with sacks since 2019 Montes sweat has 412 sacks Ryan Burns 46 I also looked Brian Burns has played 80 games compared to Montes sweat 76 games you look at quarterback hits montz sweat has 99 Brian Burns with quarterback hits 95 I think Brian Burns has been a little bit more productive in terms of tackles but they’re they’re really close in some major categories there that you want to see out of your Edge rusher if you’re going to make the case of for at least top 10 I’m looking at Brian Burns be like well if montz sweat plays the 80 games that Brian Burns has played wonder how similarly are these stats and how much of an impact and look too it’s more than just sacks too like how much impact are these guys having on a specific play how much blockers are going to Brian Birds montz sweat when you know they obvious passing situations there are other things to look at than just some of those numbers but I I would look at Brian Burns as maybe being the one guy or even again like Trey Hendrickson where can you make the case for Montes to be top 10 I think you can yeah and look the Bears didn’t have anybody in the top 60 you know true so you polls traded a second round pick for wherever you want to put them Seven 8 10 12 13 11 it it doesn’t they need needed an impact dude to get to the quarterback to give themselves a chance to be successful and Ryan I it was that was no secret to anyone they saw an opportunity with Washington he forgot about the Claypool trade enough in his mind to move forward again and I don’t know if you want to call the trade a home run but at bare minimum it’s a double it’s probably close s a home run and yes they still need to pair somebody with them I like I my point is I guess like is he top I don’t know the bottom line is dude dude is an impact player that makes the biggest difference on that defense of anyone uh and yes hit that like button hit the Subscribe button on as a reminder on a Sunnyside Thursday here if you’re Sunny siding it up or if you’re not Sunny sunning it up you want to hit the like button if you want to put them montz as a top 10 guy feel free we’d love that um and of course we’re here Monday through Friday at noon although tomorrow we are taking the Friday off because we’re going to rest up for training camp a week from Friday and we’re coming back strong we get we’re actually we go what’s that I mean it’s going to be a full goal once training camps here Mark no days off we’re going to be grinding out there Sunny sweaty Shady Rays on the whole thing buddy whole thing still going to Camp August 13th so good luck on that five days thank you buddy I need that mid Camp break for me to be ready for the season along with my Uso I guess I’ll be I I’ll have to push uh Greg in in a wheelchair then as as we’re kind of marking everything down in training camp so yeah don’t don’t he’s fine I mean he’s he’s banged up but you don’t don’t give him any help just make him earn it just it’s training camp everybody’s got to go through their stuff brags with his Situation’s got to do the same thing uh speaking of somebody who’s not Greg brags and has the World by exactly where you’d want to be oh okay well I just try to clean up what was going on in my mind bill bellich in his 70s dating a 24y old how’s that possible I have no idea that’s nauseating and kind of creepy but whatever good for for you um he’s now joining Ryan Clark Chad Johnson Chris long on inside the NFL on the CW Network he’s also going to appear on Pat McAfee show he’s also going to be part of the Manning cast man his quote as far as the new show on the CW I’m thrilled to join my new team at NFL films and work on such a historic television franchise this is Bill talking to you now I’ve always appreciated inside the NFL’s depth of analysis I hope to bring the same detailed insight to the CW by talking real football with real pros Karm Nick and Braggs and hog no Ryan Chris and Chad this coming season real football with real pros real what we do over here is fake football ball with fake pros and we’re proud of it but I there’s something about this that bugs me okay and I’m not saying he’s not going to be entertaining maybe it’ll be incredibly entertaining but this is what we do in the media land dudes that deliberately give you nothing and be as boring as possible for whatever reason when they become when nobody in the NFL wants to hire him to be a head coach despite his six Super Bowl rings they’re telling him no we just got to run out there and hire the guy who has made a made it his job to be as boring as possible and that’s annoying to me like you you could have been entertaining then you could have given something you could have you could have been a not a boring ass pain in the ass but no none of that matters let’s hire him same thing with Cutler it’s not really the same I shouldn’t go to Jay but there’s just we I don’t understand when guys are completely not interesting yet we the media we fall over ourselves to hire them oh when you have that many Super Bowls like Bill bich I that’s one thing but that is true like he anytime he goes to a Podium bill bich when he was the Patriots head coach it was nauseating to kind of watch it’s like Grumble the whole time yeah you Grumble he wouldn’t answer the question and it’s like what unless you asked him about special teams if you ask him about special teams you go in a long rant about you know special teams and how it works but it will be interesting to see I think he will open up a little bit Mark I think he has to he has to no he will but the point is that I wish you would in my mind like when you do that for decades on end you should have already disqualified yourself uh what do what do you think about the Bears are amazing football team You Know M of best coach I’ve ever cincinn seen in my life what I hey there’s this there’s some I I listen I’m sure Bill’s a lovely fellow I’d love to sit down and have a cup of tea if I can bring in my British accent one more time before the week is over Z comes in with the the half the the sleeve the cut off sleeved hoodie he got to have that at least you think you’ll have that Mark or is he going in his suit I don’t know the vibe of the show doesn’t matter what I wear everybody knows that I’m just being he’s going to have a headset on talk football tell you what I know about football that was a really great way that he surveyed are loving this he surveyed the field and uh he’s probably going to be entertaining and the show’s going to be great and everyone’s going to watch and we’ll come back to this conversation like we’re idiots and I’ll learn a lot of things and that’ll be great I just there’s a lot that just Bugg it just bugged me people are loving your bill bich impression it’s your best one I’m more important than Tom Brady I mean Tom’s good quarterback but you know I mean I need subtitles for that voice I’m I’m the best I’m I’m I’m I’m um know I I like football like a little Sylvester Salone like yeah there was a little Sylvester there I sleep with football and um and 24 year old okay um well we just you know no standards here man oh bills available let’s pay him seven zillion dollars and hope that he’s entertaining yeah no question yeah give him all the money all right orange Cassidy if you’re ringtone is me doing the Jordan voice I I need to like buy you dinner lunch or something just orange Cassity loves us that’s my guy officially wants us uh can we just W let me ask this question I’ll be professional not think you didn’t hear any of the last six minutes of me complaining are you excited Nick for bill bich being on television I’m excited to hear his insight and there it is Bo and that’s why he has the job buddy because you care what he has to say because he’s Bill bich done and done why don’t we make to that point why don’t we make Mitch shabisky uh yeah okay he’s didn’t win six Super Bowl rings Andor but then again also like love the guys that break down fil like a Chase Daniel and like Dan you know like Dan like those guys obviously did not have the greatest NFL careers but you do appreciate their knowledge of the game because they understand the sport they understand the sport that will get you paid they’ve they’ve played the position they’re but but anytime that anybody asked Dan orlovski a question I assume when he was actually playing the sport he wasn’t a complete ass where that’s true you know this guy tried to be as boring as possible and not tell you anything to get some level of competitive Advantage along with cheating his ass off and well it’s great you know you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying I love that he deflated footballs and S put cameras in to watch practice when you weren’t allowed and did anything possible to give the Patriots an advantage even though they had arguably well whatever the the goat the the considered goat the goat fine the goat when if you were drafting quarterbacks of all time I wouldn’t pick him number one but most people would that’s fine who’ you pick number one I’ll go fully off the off the reservation most talented quarterback ever throwing the football in the history of the NFL Nick are are you gonna say you’re not gonna say Patrick Mahomes you’re gonna say Dan Marino I’m gonna say Dan Marino boom it’s a good pull there Nick yeah I go with Patrick mAh he’s on that trajectory D yeah no and look you can’t go wrong you could you want to see Aaron Rogers you can go ahead you can you can yeah tell Tom’s got the Rings man the but the Jew forget about what I just said there the whole that whole the whole Brady bich thing as we wrap up the show just annoyed me who’s more important Brady or bellich the freaking quarterback that’s who’s more important not the dude who’s mumbling to the media acting like he’s got State Secrets while he’s cheating his ass off it’s the freaking quarterback I don’t know man B TR system okay now now a free agent no one’s hiring the Atlanta Falcons are picking Raheem Morris o over bill bellich I don’t know man if Brady was still available in his prime you think somebody would want him okay shoot the 49ers wanted Tom Brady I think last year over Brock py but didn’t end up working out h get it okay I feel better Kentucky Bears fan 9999 thank you for the super chat if Caleb is Elite Bears will own the Division I challenge you to name a modern era Star Quarterback who didn’t own his division Rogers Brady Mahomes Allen healthy burrow stoud so far luck man you’re Kentucky you’re right man if he’s great we’re gonna be great yeah Bears will be great I I don’t yeah to answer your like challeng you to name a modern era modern era quarterback that hasn’t like it’s all those guys right there that you put in your comment so good point I don’t know if the bills be great just you can’t just do it just a quarterback you need a great coach uh 499 from Kyle B anyone else worried about Karan and of his meeting the rookie video he barely he briefly mentions his senior and no mention of injury concerns uh I don’t think we’re seeing amaji this year much if at all Kyle B so that’s down the list of worries for me yeah and I you know the Hope was that training camp he would hope be on the field we’ll have to wait and see he hasn’t played hasn’t actually done anything football related um in quite a while he’s been at the practices but hasn’t participate so gota wait and see on that one we got a couple snid bits here one from Gary Ross breaking news StubHub has shut down the secondary market place for uh it was intended to be free Bears training camp tickets that’s pretty crazy considering how quickly those sold and then one other snidbit was uh Jamal Adams signing with the Tennessee Titans Bears week one opponent that could actually move the line of half a point he’s he’s got a resume I like Jamal Adams coming out of LSU in 2017 I remember doing a mock draft and mocking him to the Bears and the Bears took V sh brisy so who whoops whoops yeah well I mean Jamal Jamal is like I don’t know he’s been he’s been hurt too but the Bears have obviously the Titans old safety and Kevin berer Jamal Adams will now be the other safety on the Titans and that’s a good uh good uh secondary there in Tennessee so another upgrade for the Tennessee Titans see you week one Tennessee we’ll see you on Monday and uh we’re gonna be talking with Aaron shatz who does a phenomenal job break uh I mean the inventor of dvoa it’s like the you’re a football nerd like you were you were on that side we will do football nerd talk along with every other corner of the football World talk right here on the show Adam Hogue I know might be a couple people out there that have have missed Hogue despite somebody who made a sign about hog around here um which we got rid of but uh Hog’s back next Tuesday man wow we got one one more day without the hog one more hogus hog we’re hogus for one and then hog hog is coming back with all the energy after his 17 we vacation be dude’s going to NASCAR events and uh whatever else he’s doing I haven’t heard from Hogan forever wow I just got a text from him earlier today yeah no I won’t Del it I won’t I won’t I don’t even feel hurt about that good it would be good to have the whole team back to have had an invite to go golfing while you know dur during the time off you know do you think Hog’s watching this to hear all this right now oh I’m sure he’s watched the entire show he’s just been hanging out oh yeah yeah all right great show Nick and Stephen thank you Pisa my py totally forever have a great rest of your Sunnyside Thursday enjoy yourself we will see you on Monday next week enjoy the [Music] weekend we all sitting like the May

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