Who’s the star? Someone needs to take a MAJOR leap. That’s what we need. I think (hope?) sengun can be the #2 option on a real contender
plutosbigbro
Someone needs to breakout and show they can be an all-star here. Obviously Green and Segun are first to be paid, would be a major mistake to max them both.
Also can pay them all so who are okay with trading away? Hard questions management will figure out in the next year
Bewaretheicespiders
Jalen’s the oldest of the bunch. He need to step up right from the start of the season and become a real #1 or accept to be a role player so someone else can be the main perimeter threat.
lambopanda
My thought? Not enough min for them. We lack the go to guy.
Sengun, lack outside shooting.
Jalen, inconsistent and defense awareness.
Jabari, strength and need to shoot better on the road.
Tari, need to get healthy.
Amen, need shooting.
Cam, need to play team basketball.
Reed, hate to wait and see.
Frequent-Meeting8975
Cam and JG have the highest ceiling on this team. Sengun needs to be traded next season if his three point shot does not develop. You do not want Sabonis 2.0 its hard to build a good team around guys like that and its simply not worth it or less you simply want mediocrity. Cam, Tari, Jabari, and Green? (possibly) are your absolute most valuable guys. Everyone else is replaceable on some level. I like Amen but he needs a jumpshot. You can’t play a wing that can’t shoot in a playoff setting. I didn’t put Amen because I don’t think he will every get a jumpshot but hopefully I’m wrong.
geraldyu14
IMO of course we want one of them to become a true No.1 option on the perimeter. But at least we have that TYPE of prospect. or it seems like the FO will try to trade for one.
The only type of player we kinda lack is a good enough shot blocking big/unicorn to cover some rim protection weaknesses. The best scenario is that big can play ALONGSIDE Sengun, not totally as a substitute.
cdrex22
My favorite thing about this group is that, outside of Alperen and maybe Jalen, they are all *extremely* comfortable fits at multiple positions. This allows you to mix and match them in almost any combo, and should it come down to needing to only pay 4-5 of them, it lets you pick the best ones rather than being constrained by needing to keep and build around your one and only (insert position) even if he doesn’t live up to expectations.
I look forward to the defensive upside of this team – we haven’t seen Tari fully unleashed, Amen was looking like a future All-Defense player in the last 20 games, and Jabari still has tools he hasn’t fully grasped on defense.
Even with Reed on board, this squad absolutely needs better shooting. Because Amen and Alperen are *in all likelihood* never going to be average three-point shooters, there’s a lot of pressure on the remaining players sharing the court with them to keep defenses honest. It feels like Cam and Reed are well on their way to reliable here, leaving Jabari, Jalen and Tari as the swing players who have flashed very good shooting and very bad shooting at various times. Jabari is the closest to dependable of the three, but Jalen is the one who stands to benefit most from upping his three-point threat, and whether he can improve his stroke might be the single biggest X-factor in whether this team contends soon.
Beyond that, the team needs *the guy*. We have so many good young players, and they’re so young with many good years in front of them, but if Vegas was putting out even-odds bets on each player that read “at his peak, [X] will be ranked over/under the 10.5th best player in the league by [random media outlet]”, I would advise the unbiased profiteer to bet against each and every one of them. You can win a lot of games in the regular season if your team has the 19th, 24th, 35th and 40th best players in the league all together, and that feels like what we’re headed for, but that kind of team composition has historically not been successful in June. The title chances are completely different if you take that #19 and make it a #6, but the path to which guy does that isn’t clear yet.
KDs_FakeAccount
A 7ft rim runner/shot blocker
2nd2last
R33D- True unknown.
Alp- Could be a 1A/B player, could be budget Sabonis if he can’t learn to shoot.
Bari- Could be a 2A/B player, but if he can’t get his own shot or bulk up will likely just be a very good 3rd or 4th option.
Tari- Could be a crazy versatile defender who can average 15 a game, a true key championship guy. Or he still struggles at the rim and line and is a “just” a 3 and D guy.
Cam- *Maybe* a smaller less gifted Carmelo and a bucket getter that every good/great team needs. Or his tunnel vision and lack of passing make it “easy” for defenses to deal with and he’s an inefficient 15 a game off the bench.
Amen- Could be a healthy but shorter Ben Simmons type but willing to shoot and hopefully can learn to dribble and shoot 30% from 3. Could never shoot well or dripple/pass and just be a shorter and worse facilitating Simmons.
Green- Could be a 25-30 PPG on good to average efficenticy, a 1A/B. Could be who he is but with good to average efficenticy, a good number 2. Or he still has huge weaknesses and is inefficient and holding the team back.
To me, Alp, R33D, Bari and Green (but each bad game less so) are the penitential stars, but if an opportunity opens up to get an established star or two, even having 3, 4, or 5 of these guys on the roster AND having the lesser versions of them is still a VERY good team IMO.
TolerableSimulacra
I feel like there are a lot of ways to group them, but I think of them in 3 categories:
**The Connectors (Sengun, Amen, Sheppard)**
* On a young squad, having guys who can create and move the ball, and generally keep the offense running are especially critical, because most young guys don’t fit this bill early on. All 3 of these guys can, even if they all have some questions (shooting for Amen and Sengun to a lesser degree, and size for Reed).
**The 2-Way Forwards (Jabari, Tari)**
* I don’t think either of them will be one of our “stars” but both can defend multiple positions, bring size/versatility, and offer something on O. Jabari seems more dependable while Tari is more fearless, but they’re both parts of the core we can depend on.
**The X-Factors/Scoring Punch (Cam, Jalen)**
* This is the harder group because we need a go-to guy, and these two (along with Sengun) are the most likely to become a 25+ guy. But the best teams’ scorers are not one-dimensional, and Cam at least offers some defensive upside while Jalen doesn’t, even if he’s behind in the playmaking department.
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Who’s the star? Someone needs to take a MAJOR leap. That’s what we need. I think (hope?) sengun can be the #2 option on a real contender
Someone needs to breakout and show they can be an all-star here. Obviously Green and Segun are first to be paid, would be a major mistake to max them both.
Also can pay them all so who are okay with trading away? Hard questions management will figure out in the next year
Jalen’s the oldest of the bunch. He need to step up right from the start of the season and become a real #1 or accept to be a role player so someone else can be the main perimeter threat.
My thought? Not enough min for them. We lack the go to guy.
Sengun, lack outside shooting.
Jalen, inconsistent and defense awareness.
Jabari, strength and need to shoot better on the road.
Tari, need to get healthy.
Amen, need shooting.
Cam, need to play team basketball.
Reed, hate to wait and see.
Cam and JG have the highest ceiling on this team. Sengun needs to be traded next season if his three point shot does not develop. You do not want Sabonis 2.0 its hard to build a good team around guys like that and its simply not worth it or less you simply want mediocrity. Cam, Tari, Jabari, and Green? (possibly) are your absolute most valuable guys. Everyone else is replaceable on some level. I like Amen but he needs a jumpshot. You can’t play a wing that can’t shoot in a playoff setting. I didn’t put Amen because I don’t think he will every get a jumpshot but hopefully I’m wrong.
IMO of course we want one of them to become a true No.1 option on the perimeter. But at least we have that TYPE of prospect. or it seems like the FO will try to trade for one.
The only type of player we kinda lack is a good enough shot blocking big/unicorn to cover some rim protection weaknesses. The best scenario is that big can play ALONGSIDE Sengun, not totally as a substitute.
My favorite thing about this group is that, outside of Alperen and maybe Jalen, they are all *extremely* comfortable fits at multiple positions. This allows you to mix and match them in almost any combo, and should it come down to needing to only pay 4-5 of them, it lets you pick the best ones rather than being constrained by needing to keep and build around your one and only (insert position) even if he doesn’t live up to expectations.
I look forward to the defensive upside of this team – we haven’t seen Tari fully unleashed, Amen was looking like a future All-Defense player in the last 20 games, and Jabari still has tools he hasn’t fully grasped on defense.
Even with Reed on board, this squad absolutely needs better shooting. Because Amen and Alperen are *in all likelihood* never going to be average three-point shooters, there’s a lot of pressure on the remaining players sharing the court with them to keep defenses honest. It feels like Cam and Reed are well on their way to reliable here, leaving Jabari, Jalen and Tari as the swing players who have flashed very good shooting and very bad shooting at various times. Jabari is the closest to dependable of the three, but Jalen is the one who stands to benefit most from upping his three-point threat, and whether he can improve his stroke might be the single biggest X-factor in whether this team contends soon.
Beyond that, the team needs *the guy*. We have so many good young players, and they’re so young with many good years in front of them, but if Vegas was putting out even-odds bets on each player that read “at his peak, [X] will be ranked over/under the 10.5th best player in the league by [random media outlet]”, I would advise the unbiased profiteer to bet against each and every one of them. You can win a lot of games in the regular season if your team has the 19th, 24th, 35th and 40th best players in the league all together, and that feels like what we’re headed for, but that kind of team composition has historically not been successful in June. The title chances are completely different if you take that #19 and make it a #6, but the path to which guy does that isn’t clear yet.
A 7ft rim runner/shot blocker
R33D- True unknown.
Alp- Could be a 1A/B player, could be budget Sabonis if he can’t learn to shoot.
Bari- Could be a 2A/B player, but if he can’t get his own shot or bulk up will likely just be a very good 3rd or 4th option.
Tari- Could be a crazy versatile defender who can average 15 a game, a true key championship guy. Or he still struggles at the rim and line and is a “just” a 3 and D guy.
Cam- *Maybe* a smaller less gifted Carmelo and a bucket getter that every good/great team needs. Or his tunnel vision and lack of passing make it “easy” for defenses to deal with and he’s an inefficient 15 a game off the bench.
Amen- Could be a healthy but shorter Ben Simmons type but willing to shoot and hopefully can learn to dribble and shoot 30% from 3. Could never shoot well or dripple/pass and just be a shorter and worse facilitating Simmons.
Green- Could be a 25-30 PPG on good to average efficenticy, a 1A/B. Could be who he is but with good to average efficenticy, a good number 2. Or he still has huge weaknesses and is inefficient and holding the team back.
To me, Alp, R33D, Bari and Green (but each bad game less so) are the penitential stars, but if an opportunity opens up to get an established star or two, even having 3, 4, or 5 of these guys on the roster AND having the lesser versions of them is still a VERY good team IMO.
I feel like there are a lot of ways to group them, but I think of them in 3 categories:
**The Connectors (Sengun, Amen, Sheppard)**
* On a young squad, having guys who can create and move the ball, and generally keep the offense running are especially critical, because most young guys don’t fit this bill early on. All 3 of these guys can, even if they all have some questions (shooting for Amen and Sengun to a lesser degree, and size for Reed).
**The 2-Way Forwards (Jabari, Tari)**
* I don’t think either of them will be one of our “stars” but both can defend multiple positions, bring size/versatility, and offer something on O. Jabari seems more dependable while Tari is more fearless, but they’re both parts of the core we can depend on.
**The X-Factors/Scoring Punch (Cam, Jalen)**
* This is the harder group because we need a go-to guy, and these two (along with Sengun) are the most likely to become a 25+ guy. But the best teams’ scorers are not one-dimensional, and Cam at least offers some defensive upside while Jalen doesn’t, even if he’s behind in the playmaking department.