Takeaways from Jokic & Jamal Murray’s Olympic debuts
Nikola Jokic plays great, and then he sits down and his team gets the crap kicked out of them. So everything is normal. Team Serbia is blown out by Team USA despite Nikola Jokic’s plus-minus of zero, dead even. Why is shooting so important around Nikola Jokic? Plus, Jamal Murray is having a not-great summer. What’s the concern level? World’s Finest breaks it down with Adam Mares and Matt Moore.
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It took an all star and super team for Lebron to beat Jokic.
Just to respond to Adam nothing against you or Matt personally i think DNVR is best NBA podcast like D-line Vogt and LoN is ok to ..I am not suggesting for Jokic to be soft 0 character ring chaser like Embid or Lebron and on..
But if DN organization cant support him like Mavs do for Luka or Milvocke for Giannes and they have different goals like player development or just going to playoffs not competing for championship and if Jokic is ok with that he should stay with DN but FO need to be honest with him that's it ..
And if Jokic have different goals then DN FO then like in every relationship they should go separate ways.. Because every move that FO did right now is telling me they are not serious about wining another ring but build new players sell them and make more money..
And if you really love Jok like in every relationship you wish him the best also Jok should deserve to play with another all star on his team and if he stays with DN i think that will never happen.
As for being soft or tuff sometimes you can be to tuff for your own good.I was in BJJ match i have got couth in an armbar but i was to stubborn and didnt tap so i pull out (lift opponent) and i broke my back and i need to have surgery on my back this otom.
DN should win at list 3 rings by now and i wish they win 10 rings but lets be real and honest about what the goals are what's the problems and what's are solutions
Jamal is worse than Nemhart. The rest is cope.
Jamal is 300% overrated player, when he played with reserves this minutes were huge negative. For team Canada probably Nemhart is more important than Jamal. Is he better than Maxey or Fox? Of course not.
He is maybe not better than Dejounte.
And he is always injured. For Nuggets it will be much better to trade him, and take somebody else for him.
Jamal Murray perception circle of life: 1) I know he didn't play well, but don't worry year of Jamal Murray coming, 2) I'm giving up on year of Jamal Murray, but don't worry, play off Murray is coming, 3) I know he lost us the championship, but don't worry, he'll get fit, he'll pop for team Canada, 4)=1) I know he didn't play well, but don't worry yea of Jamal Murray coming…I said last season, it doesn't work like this, you can't just do nothing and expect to be good, when the whole league is improving every day trying to beat you, but nobody listened to me
At this point, I'm not confident Jamal will return to form. His injuries, bad attitude and lack of conditioning are taking their toll.
Matt the reason why Embiid is good statistically in games against Jokic is because he plays only at home and when he's rested…if there's any chance he could "embarrass" himself, he just sits…
Serbs actong like hapless oponent… will for s 2:15 ure win gold. They will be swarming out offense, will be razorsharp in shots and will not let the NBA stars shoot that open… turn over the ball like they did…
The last, the third game will bring gold.
As I promised, as soon as you start talking bs about KCP and how irreplaceable he is, here it is:
Reading the comments, I conclude that the majority of people who write comments, including the majority of channel hosts on all YT channels related to Denver, draw conclusions and talk about KCP and other players as if they had no contact with any sport in their lives. Everyone writes about KCP as if he was in is an excellent basketball player, but in fact he is average and completely replaceable, especially if we take Braun as a replacement. If we have to take part in commenting about the Denver Nuggets team, let's be realistic and consider all aspects of the players or the team being commented on. KCP in the play offs of this completed season, in 12 games, only three games were positive in the complete +- statistics. In four games out of 12, he was in double figures – twice with 12 points, one 14. one 16 points, all other games r single digit. He had 2.7 ast per game, 2.9 rebounds pg. Now the complete picture of 3-point shooting in 12 playoff games-4/10, 0/4, 1/5, 2/3, 1/6, 2/4, 0/2, 0/2, 1/4, 4/ 5, 2/6, 1/4 – if we add it all up, we get 51 points from three-point shooting in 12 games, a very bad statistic even for an average player. Next, in only 3 games out of 12, KCP shot free throws, in 9 games there was not a single free throw attempt. How good is KCP with 8.08 ppg in 12 play off games. Steals for such a defender 1.4 spg, 17 in total on 12 POG, haha 10 of them are from 5 games against LA, 7 steals on 7 games against Wolves. I will not write to you about Fga without three points and free throws because it is additionally devastating. I can additionally write that in 12 playoff games CB has a negative +- in the complete statistics in only two, in ten he had a + in the complete statistics. I know that because of the championship team, every fan is attached to KCP, but looking at the bigger picture, he is not a player for Denver. What happened with Brown after leaving Denver, the same will happen with KCP, if he was really that good, OKC would take him instead of Caruso or some other team that is among the top five or top 8 to win the championship, but money above all because he knows that this is the last stop for a good contract at the age of 31. Jokica does not need players who are chasing contracts, but players who are chasing the championship. End of story all the best to KCP and Denver will be a much better team without KCP, Reggie and with Saric and Russ a much more mature and stronger team as a whole – this is a team sport, Denver to victory.
I would be very concerned if the nuggets traded Michael Porter for parts. To me, that puts even more pressure on Jamal be the second star that he isn't right now, to lead units without Jokic, to raise the floor of other players.
If Jamal proves he can do those things, then maybe he doesn't need an Aaron Gordon and an MPJ next to him but right now he looks like he absolutely needs them.
Jamal entered the season in full fan form, it could be seen in the first 10 games. That is why the contract is still in place because it is probably filled with clauses, for injuries, the number of games played – examples. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, there is always a solution.
To sum it up any team that have 3 time MVP for 5 years of his prime and dont have an All Star to play with (support) him ..Something is terrible wrong with that (almost criminaly wrong)
And that is nothing to do with toughness or running away to a better place ..There is latterly no team in history of the NBA that threat their All star like this and not compare to MVP and we are talking about 3 time MVP..
Nuggets should play similar to how Utah Jazz played a few seasons ago
Jokic has not even played with a single all nba caliber player and he is going to turn 30 this season.
I don't usually comment anything on yt, but you guys are amazing and I admire Adam's interest and knowledge in Serbian culture.Though Matt is my fave 😄 sarcasm, real analytics, harsh truth teller… Everyone brings something to the table, keep it up! Swipa keep your crazy energy 👋🏻 high regards from Serbia!
Loved the show!!
Murray is not a max guy
Why do people act like losing Kcp means we can't shoot 3pts at all??? Mpj , jamal, julian, Watson, Vlatko all shot 3s… Stop acting like kcp hit 7 3s a game 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Unexpected haters ball but appreciated
I do think that alot of people are jumping ship on Jamal and IMO it's too early for all that. He's got next season to make everyone look bad.
And yeah IMO MPJ was the biggest disappointment in the post Season . I think he's either gonna be traded before trade deadline or he'll be having the best season of his career.
I missed you two together!
Its simple. Jamal isnt fit enough. Get in shape. Stop being lazy. Take some accountability. He never does. You can tell he thinks his shit don't stink when you listen to him in interviews. He thinks he is better than he is. No champ. You have never been close to an all star. How about showing something from start to finish. Its in your control.