Are the Nuggets in Real Trouble? | The Bill Simmons Podcast
The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Rob Mahoney discuss Jamal Murray’s struggles in the Olympics and a potential Michael Porter Jr. trade.
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MPJ for Bogdanovic & Hunter would be great. Anything to get off that contract. I think Nuggets should trade Murray as well.
Calvin boothe has fumbled hard.
This is what makes the Dubs and the Bulls and etc. so amazing, sustaining greatness for so long
Denver is like the Okc of 2013, they are lucky because they get one title before their window finally closed
Yes they are done in terms of winning a chip. Mpj comtract is in the way
Nuggets are not a good team other than Jokic
Lets Hope this doesn't affect thr Nuggets Season
MPJ was on fire in the lakers series that said lakers dont have defenders maybe with vando they win that series
This version of Murray is still better than Facu and we still went to the second round.
I would be my life savings the Grizzlies don't win more games than the Nuggets lmao
Bill hating on Nuggets because he's scared. LOL
Murray never played APEX prime LeBron and he wouldn’t dunk over him. Cmon now
Yall crazy if u really think Nuggets won’t win over 51 😂🤦🏾♂️
Nuggets are still one of the best teams
A team of Jokic, Gordon, Porter, and Murray combo
Picking up Westbrook helps, gives Murray time to rest during the season.
As long as they are healthy they are one of the best teams.
Nuggets needs Avramovic and Bogdanovic!!!
Bill, MPJr has a career assist % of 6.3%. He's one of the least "playmaking forwards" just about ever haha
Dude is injured. He could do without the pressure to come back before his body's ready. Murray's the reason why I didn't want Denver to make this past season's Finals, because I was worried he would aggravate his leg injury a la KD in the Raptor's Finals.
DRose was never the same, KD is mostly the same. Klay? Not the same. I admire the resolve to represent Canada, but Murray needs to heal.
Murray scored 35 in the last NBA game he played in. He wasn't the reason the Nuggets lost the game 7 against the Wolves. He'll be fine. The Nuggets will be fine.
Bill said KCP statement was stupid, then proceeded to say exactly what he said……
Murray in bubble was phenomenal. He reason why Denver won and not Utah. Bubble was 4 years ago or so. How come he got so bad?
Jokic to Dallas for a bag of chips. Who says no?
If jokic gets a ring with westbrook id have to put him over lebron james all time😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jokic for Palo and three firsts who hangs up?
Every year everybody is saying west is better, there should be a limit.
How come Denver has NEVER beat a 50+ win team in the playoffs?
Westbrook will save the day
They need to make moves urgently. Jerami Grant and Zach Lavine have problematic contracts but those are two big impact players in a system like the Nuggets. They need a big impact player and they need to restock on proper role players
yall are gonna regret the "grizzlies win more games then Denver" take lmfao. Im sorry but losing KCP and Murray playing badly under FIBA rules are not big enough reasons to underestimate the Nugs this much. They have Jokic. If he and a couple other starters are healthy, theyre winning 50+ no problem.
"The west is just so much better!" Why? Caruso and iHart to OKC is big, but they were already the fkn 1 seed last season. What else are they talking about? Klay moving to dallas? Dj murray to the pels? 😂 this is so shortsighted man
😂😂 I thought Jokic was the best player in the world. Jokic is having a better run than Shaq. Laughable. Now Denver falls off the map without Jamal Murray huh. 😂
But they have a 3 time MVP. Surely a bad supporting cast wouldn’t give him a pass if they don’t go on a deep playoff run.
Nuggets under 51.5?? Doubting they even get to 47? LOLLL. People still don't understand that Jokic just wins a ton of basketball games. Look at what he did with Campazzo, Austin Rivers and Will Barton as starters. They won 57 last year with Jamal missing 24 games. They're one of the easiest overs every year.
People over rate Jamal and Jokic chemistry while also underrating how all time great Nikola Jokic is at raising the floor of all the players. Nikola Jokic fix so many issues for teams
Jokic raised the floor of some many players. He's getting massive contracts to players who don't deserves that much money. MPJ and Jamal and KCP and Zeke Nnaji. Jokic is straight up Santan getting massive pay raises to players who shouldn't be earning that much.
Anyone on the Nuggets is replaceable. The only one untouchable is Aaron Gordon
Saying the nuggets will be worse than the grizzlies is just flat out bad basketball knowledge. Where was Denver and welders was Memphis?
@5:00 facts
Nuggets in play in…. Book it
MPJ for Hunter and Bodgdonovic is a trade I think Denver would do in a heartbeat but I think Atlanta isn’t really interested in MPJ and giving up a still solid asset in Hunter to get him
The Nuggets have to hope they can develop at least 3 younger guys into rotation players. That's a tall task. If they can do it it'll be a huge win. If not it's a damn shame.
The Grizzlies winning more games than theNUggets this next year is a WILD take
Whoever this dude is never have him back on.
I actually like that Porter trade, for both sides
Kcp gone. Murrays body gone. Mpj insanely overpaid. Jokic just carried serbia on his own at olympics. This team looks tired before the seasons begun. They have no depth. Is westbrook going to fit or help much?! Without a big move theres no way the nuggets are one of the favourites this year
Murray is the most overrated player in sports history
Murray need to do something about them teeth to much money go gets some braces 😂😂😂
Yep. It's just a sad situation.
Bruce Brown, KCP, Jeff Green, Reggie, few others gone – and replaced with Saric and Westbrook on minimums.
Nuggets owner Jeff Kroenke promised to "go for it" this off-season, because "we have the best player on the planet and we owe it to him"….
Nuggets GM followed with "I'm the steward of Jokic's prime".
That's on the record.
And then – they did nothing except to contain the cost and minimize obligations/liabilities. Only focused on saving few dollars.
Because Kroenkes are trying to sell nuggets before this season starts for about $3B in pure profit.
Yep.
That's Nuggets Owners – Josh and Stan Kroenke, and the Nuggets "GM" – Calvin Booth.
LIARS. Cheap hustlers.
It's a clear "f*ck you our slave" to Jokic.
And Murray… Oh Murray… That broken human being. Talented, but broken. No brains, no character, no pride.
Came to season way overweight, completely out of shape, slow, weak, fat, unprepared. And then, of course, injury after injury – half of which were just pure BS.
I believe I understand a bit of Jokic's mentality – he's a nice guy and not the one to start the fire or rock the boat – but what nuggets are doing to his prime is an insult and a disrespect like no other I've ever seen. If he sees it that way – it's "Sayonara Nuggets" in a blink. (then Kroenkes will see that money just disappear immediately) And I hope that's exactly what'll happen.
DEMAND A TRADE NIKOLA.
Fluke champions. Never beat a 50 win team. I've been telling you all.