Guys that allowed today’s role players to make 40 million a year while they got paid nothing.
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You know it’s pretty telling when overwhelmingly old heads are talking real shyte about how bad the league is today, how everyone is soft and so on and so forth, but as soon as someone does the same to them it becomes a veeery sensitive topic. It’s almost like a lot of people have quietly been butthurt for a long time now and it ain’t the new guys.
TomorrowKnite
I get it from both sides. All this just proves it’s been a quiet nba summer, In terms of news anyway
amr1992
The interesting part to me is (at least from what I see) how this talk about eras isn’t part of the discussion for other sports. Like you don’t really see NFL fans talking about the quality of competition Jim Brown was going against or something. I follow other sports, but this definitely seems like more of an NBA thing. *edit: Mainly mean this from the aspect of the quality of players from past eras isn’t as discussed in other sports nearly as often
thesch
Has Nique ever said anything bad about the current generation? Because everyone here is kinda shitting on him for this but I think it’s a reasonable statement. He says he’s cool with the new generation and each generation builds on what the generation before them did. He basically just doesn’t want to be thought of as a “plumber” by the new generation which is fair.
shanmustafa
idk when it turned into they, yeah it’s a couple players but in totality it’s like 1-2% that are like yeah the era before was ass
Al-4Touchdowns-Bundy
Old heads: they will literally die playing against us
New heads: they can’t even dunk a ball or make a three
Real-Human-1985
LeBron fans started the worst NBA fan trend.
Apollo611
Do these conversations happen in other sports? I don’t hear NFL/MLB players or fans shitting on other players from different eras, they seem to appreciate all of their great players way more than the NBA
AlternativeProof4262
fax
qpwoeor1235
The player podcast content pipeline is becoming just as insufferable as espn talk shows. One offhand quote from a players gets discussed on every player podcast ad nauseum. Then it gets posted here where people post the exact same tired jokes in hopes of getting karma
PhD_V
MJ has a quote in his book (and a few interviews around the same time), where he talks about being “the best”. It was in reference to bringing the same energy on both ends of the court, day in and day out. “That’s where I feel like I’m the best [in the league right now]. The best ever? I can’t say that – I’d never say that. We all play in different eras; I never played against Jerry West, Bill Russell, Wilt, Doc [in his prime]…” etc. “I love the game, it’s been good to me, and I like to think I’ve been good to it. All things evolve, and the game has to grow. I’m excited to see it continue to do so. Unless they fundamentally change the rules of the game, there will be someone FAR greater than Michael Jordan.”
No-Celebration2255
this is the key. there is no now without them. if there was no them, guys now would be the them. you dont just skip the progression timeline. very very few people have the creativeness and balls to be a pioneer, they usually get rejected
AyyP302
What a GREAT response by Dominique. Perfectly said. Some old guys need to stop shitting on the new guys too, it goes both ways. But either way, nail on the head Nique.
Whitebandito
Reasonable take for Dominique, but let’s not act like the old heads aren’t saying the same type of things like Edwards. Wouldn’t be an nba season without Shaq talking about how they’d smash current teams.
PM_Me_FunnyNudes
HOLY FUCK ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS
This shit is dumber than the ‘world champion’ debate and we’re still talking about it.
RealCheyemos
Look, if guys back in the 90s and the 80s and the 70s etc., were able to literally travel and carry the ball and handle the ball like players of today are allowed to handle it, then they would be just as good if not better than these guys today.
KingREX_24
Why are most people here acting like the hate is one sided? The older generation has been hating on the new generation for the last 10+ years, only recently the new gens started talking the old gens down. Both sides are wrong, but the hate has been way more egregious from oldheads.
altruisticdisaster
Maybe I’m wrong but aren’t the old guys responsible for starting this in the first place
Medium_Active1729
it’s only edwards who said that and he is dumb as fuck, so it should not be taken seriously
iCE_P0W3R
I agree with everything Nique said here, I do think it’s important to point out, though, that it’s not exactly “one-sided” and just youngins shittin’ on older generations. How many retired players talk about how soft the new generations are? Nique is exempt from that obviously, but it’s important to keep in mind for the conversation.
Voljjin
Were there as many instances of young, great players trashing previous era’s players like there is today?
Seems like there was loads of respect for previous greats from contemporary greats up until recently.
Yung_Hibachi
Old heads been going hard on the younger generation as long as I can remember. Ever since Lebron became the face of the league, it’s always been “well he couldn’t do it in our era” or “he’ll never be Jordan”.
I feel like these young dudes just started chirping back in the past few years. Both sides take it too far but Jordan era dudes definitely started it
KnickedUp
One guy who never shits on the old generation….Lebron
693275001
Ant losing aura points in the NBA community. He needs to get humbled
inshamblesx
old heads playing the victim all of a sudden when they’ve gone damn near a decade shitting on newgens is crazy
doctorfeelwood
And Dominique could take his athleticism to any era.
Dank_AyAyron
I feel him. Idk why basketball feels like it’s the only sport where ppl dismiss the older eras of the game. Never see that in other team sports
SeanAnders
I swear old heads talk a lot of shit about the new generation of players but act like the world is ending when the current players come with the same energy.
Asriel_Cristian
Torono Rapture, thank you for this refreshing link from Dominique Wilkens. Unfortunately, in sports, bluster and pride are propped up ahead of humility.
Wilkins’ thoughts are rational. Look, basketball is meant to be competitive and fun. Not divisive. Anthony Edward’s, while talented, his commentary reeks of ignorance.
As Wilkens said in his piece; the game of basketball will continuously evolve over time.
HueyWasRight1
Something wrong with these new kids.
SeriousAdult
I hear him, but the old heads love to shit on the current era to puff themselves up. Scottie Pippen is probably the most notorious hater but he’s not the only one. Not ‘Nique personally, but it definitely goes both ways.
Majestic-Net-7799
Wise words
No_Housing3716
I think what’s lost is the fact prior generations had actually normal lives and interactions. Most of these emerging stars have been coddled and held on a pedistool their entire lives. Silver spoon n all.
whiiskio
One of the classiest dudes to ever grace the hardwood. Dunked like an animal, but what a graceful athlete and upstanding person. That’s how a Hall of Famer carries themselves folks.
ly93
But old guys talk shit about new generation all the time. About how the current players wouldn’t last. They do that way more than the other way around
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They dont respect the guys that built the league.
Guys that allowed today’s role players to make 40 million a year while they got paid nothing.
You know it’s pretty telling when overwhelmingly old heads are talking real shyte about how bad the league is today, how everyone is soft and so on and so forth, but as soon as someone does the same to them it becomes a veeery sensitive topic. It’s almost like a lot of people have quietly been butthurt for a long time now and it ain’t the new guys.
I get it from both sides. All this just proves it’s been a quiet nba summer, In terms of news anyway
The interesting part to me is (at least from what I see) how this talk about eras isn’t part of the discussion for other sports. Like you don’t really see NFL fans talking about the quality of competition Jim Brown was going against or something. I follow other sports, but this definitely seems like more of an NBA thing. *edit: Mainly mean this from the aspect of the quality of players from past eras isn’t as discussed in other sports nearly as often
Has Nique ever said anything bad about the current generation? Because everyone here is kinda shitting on him for this but I think it’s a reasonable statement. He says he’s cool with the new generation and each generation builds on what the generation before them did. He basically just doesn’t want to be thought of as a “plumber” by the new generation which is fair.
idk when it turned into they, yeah it’s a couple players but in totality it’s like 1-2% that are like yeah the era before was ass
Old heads: they will literally die playing against us
New heads: they can’t even dunk a ball or make a three
LeBron fans started the worst NBA fan trend.
Do these conversations happen in other sports? I don’t hear NFL/MLB players or fans shitting on other players from different eras, they seem to appreciate all of their great players way more than the NBA
fax
The player podcast content pipeline is becoming just as insufferable as espn talk shows. One offhand quote from a players gets discussed on every player podcast ad nauseum. Then it gets posted here where people post the exact same tired jokes in hopes of getting karma
MJ has a quote in his book (and a few interviews around the same time), where he talks about being “the best”. It was in reference to bringing the same energy on both ends of the court, day in and day out. “That’s where I feel like I’m the best [in the league right now]. The best ever? I can’t say that – I’d never say that. We all play in different eras; I never played against Jerry West, Bill Russell, Wilt, Doc [in his prime]…” etc. “I love the game, it’s been good to me, and I like to think I’ve been good to it. All things evolve, and the game has to grow. I’m excited to see it continue to do so. Unless they fundamentally change the rules of the game, there will be someone FAR greater than Michael Jordan.”
this is the key. there is no now without them. if there was no them, guys now would be the them. you dont just skip the progression timeline. very very few people have the creativeness and balls to be a pioneer, they usually get rejected
What a GREAT response by Dominique. Perfectly said. Some old guys need to stop shitting on the new guys too, it goes both ways. But either way, nail on the head Nique.
Reasonable take for Dominique, but let’s not act like the old heads aren’t saying the same type of things like Edwards. Wouldn’t be an nba season without Shaq talking about how they’d smash current teams.
HOLY FUCK ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS
This shit is dumber than the ‘world champion’ debate and we’re still talking about it.
Look, if guys back in the 90s and the 80s and the 70s etc., were able to literally travel and carry the ball and handle the ball like players of today are allowed to handle it, then they would be just as good if not better than these guys today.
Why are most people here acting like the hate is one sided? The older generation has been hating on the new generation for the last 10+ years, only recently the new gens started talking the old gens down. Both sides are wrong, but the hate has been way more egregious from oldheads.
Maybe I’m wrong but aren’t the old guys responsible for starting this in the first place
it’s only edwards who said that and he is dumb as fuck, so it should not be taken seriously
I agree with everything Nique said here, I do think it’s important to point out, though, that it’s not exactly “one-sided” and just youngins shittin’ on older generations. How many retired players talk about how soft the new generations are? Nique is exempt from that obviously, but it’s important to keep in mind for the conversation.
Were there as many instances of young, great players trashing previous era’s players like there is today?
Seems like there was loads of respect for previous greats from contemporary greats up until recently.
Old heads been going hard on the younger generation as long as I can remember. Ever since Lebron became the face of the league, it’s always been “well he couldn’t do it in our era” or “he’ll never be Jordan”.
I feel like these young dudes just started chirping back in the past few years. Both sides take it too far but Jordan era dudes definitely started it
One guy who never shits on the old generation….Lebron
Ant losing aura points in the NBA community. He needs to get humbled
old heads playing the victim all of a sudden when they’ve gone damn near a decade shitting on newgens is crazy
And Dominique could take his athleticism to any era.
I feel him. Idk why basketball feels like it’s the only sport where ppl dismiss the older eras of the game. Never see that in other team sports
I swear old heads talk a lot of shit about the new generation of players but act like the world is ending when the current players come with the same energy.
Torono Rapture, thank you for this refreshing link from Dominique Wilkens. Unfortunately, in sports, bluster and pride are propped up ahead of humility.
Wilkins’ thoughts are rational. Look, basketball is meant to be competitive and fun. Not divisive. Anthony Edward’s, while talented, his commentary reeks of ignorance.
As Wilkens said in his piece; the game of basketball will continuously evolve over time.
Something wrong with these new kids.
I hear him, but the old heads love to shit on the current era to puff themselves up. Scottie Pippen is probably the most notorious hater but he’s not the only one. Not ‘Nique personally, but it definitely goes both ways.
Wise words
I think what’s lost is the fact prior generations had actually normal lives and interactions. Most of these emerging stars have been coddled and held on a pedistool their entire lives. Silver spoon n all.
One of the classiest dudes to ever grace the hardwood. Dunked like an animal, but what a graceful athlete and upstanding person. That’s how a Hall of Famer carries themselves folks.
But old guys talk shit about new generation all the time. About how the current players wouldn’t last. They do that way more than the other way around