James Worthy says Kevin Durant is a TOP TEN PLAYER OF ALL-TIME
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She a got dam hater
Man why she own here I hate hearing some female's talk sports
Dominique kind of cooked and exposed. If the panel was saying KD wasn't in top 10 (and I missed that episode), and now because Worthy said he's in the 7 range (or 6-10) and people switching now… looks incriminating lol.
TOP 30 ALL TIME:
1. Michael Jordan – the greatest player and the greatest career in NBA history. Most dominant offensive force and one of the games greatest defenders. Jordan is one of the few players to build a franchise from nothing to dynasty. A real life OP video-game character.
6x Champ 6x FMVP 5x MVP 1x DPOY
2. Bill Russell – the greatest winner and greatest defensive force in NBA and sports history. A legend on/off court. The key to NBA first dynasty.
11x Champ 5x FMVP 5x MVP
3. Magic Johnson – the great PG ever (so far…). A position-less player who was the best playmaker, ever. REVOLUTIONIZED his position and saved the NBA. Had it not been for his disease who knows how much higher he’d be considered on an alltime list.
5x Champ 3x FMVP 3xMVP
4. LeBron James – the greatest longevity in sports history. At his peak, he amassed some of the greatest individual seasons ever. Playoff King. One of the most dominant forces ever and the greatest all round player. Still.. counting.
SCARY.
4x Champ 4x FMVP 4x MVP
5. Tim Duncan – best PF ever. One of the most fundamentally sound players ever. Played both ends at the highest level for 15 seasons.
5x Champ 3x FMVP 2x MVP
6. Kareem Abdul Jabar – owner of the most dominant go-to move on offense. The HOOK. The previous scoring leader and lead all points for 4 decades. The greatest BASKETBALL career ever.
Prep to Pro.
6x Champ 2x FMVP 6x MVP
7. Kobe Bryant – see number 1 and dilute the athleticism and physical intangibles and that’s what you got.
Arguably the greatest warrior in NBA history. A winner supreme and the games wisest sage. MAMBA.
5x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP
8. Shaquille O’Neal – the most dominant ever. The immovable object/unstoppable force. Shaq was the definition of dominance. One of the few who at their peak might’ve had no comparison. Yes, greater than anyone.
4x Champ 3x FMVP 1x MVP
9. Larry Bird – maybe the most legendary on the list. Precursor to Jokic but better. One of the most skilled & clutch players ever.
In any sport. If not for Larry’s back quitting on him, who knows how much higher on the list he’d be
3x Champ 2x FMVP 3x MVP
10. Hakeem Olajuwon – back to back.
The best of the mid90’s and second best player in the era. Hakeem is like Russell but with AllNBA offensive ability.
2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP
11. Wilt Chamberlain – one of the games most prolific scorers. Arguably it’s greatest defender as well. The man could do it all. Even lead the league in assist at 7”2. Wilt IS unparalleled.
GOAT athlete.
2x Champ 2x FMVP 4x MVP
12. Steph Curry – the games most prolific shooter and one of its greatest scorers. REVOLUTIONIZED the game forever. STILL GOING.
4x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP
13. Isaiah Thomas – ZEKE. CP3 before CP3 but nastier and meaner. A warrior and one of the games greatest strategist and generals. Quietly a top5 passer.
2x Champ 2x FMVP
14. Oscar Robertson – the greatest all around basketball player ever. Could do everything at a AllNBA level.
Changed the way players were interpreted and influenced generations.
1x Champ 2x MVP
15. Kevin Durant – the Slim Reaper is likely the most ideal offensive weapon ever. Can hit from anywhere, anytime over anyone. Hard to beat and impossible to match that level of offensive dominance.
2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP
16. Julius Erving – The good Dr., the FIRST MJ (before Magic & Jordan), The icon and face of BOTH leagues that saved the game in the 70’s. Kareem was the best but Doc was a close 2nd. Underrated statistical brilliance. Was like a 6’7-6’8 Giannis but with a better jump shot.
3x Champ (1 NBA) 2x FMVP 4x MVP (1 NBA)
17.. Moses Malone – CHAIRMAN OF DA BOARDS. Arguably the best board getter… ever. Only Wilt, Russell, Rodman and Thurmond belong in the same discussion. Moses lead his people to the promise land more than once but was able to claim immortality in the early 80’s. His team lead by the dynamic duo of he and Doc dominated the league. Before Lakers v. Celtics it was 76ers v. Celtics-Lakers.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 3xMVP
18. John Havlicek – the GREAT one. MJ is 6-0.
Ole Johnny is 8-0. The offensive force off the bench or starting that lead the dynastic Celtics to all 8. Early in his career he was akin to Jordan Poole role on Warriors 22’ team but better at everything but the 3 ball.
Then in the late 60’s-70’s he sat in captains seat. His career is a unique mix.
Played like Pippen with elite perimeter shooting/scoring, early career was early Kobe-esque, late career MJ/Kobe-esque.
John’s game rose in the playoffs.
8x Champ 1x FMVP (likely 4x)
19. Giannis Antetokounmpo – it’s getting freaky… GreekMan is literally on the ride to potentially threatening Tim’s best PF title.
If he can add a couple more rings to his already HOF profile he will likely be the new PF or TOP 5 player. Yea. THAT GOOD.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 1x DPOY
20. Jerry West – The LOGO. Steph Curry before Steph. The man that built the LA franchise along Baylor post Mikan era.
Jerry West was the blueprint skill base for players like Kobe, MJ, TMac, etc
At 6’2-6’3 he torched his opponents his entire career and dropped plenty of dimes.
The ORIGINAL combo guard. So damn great he LOST and still won FMVP… case closed.
1x Champ 1x FMVP
21. Nikola Jokic – the Joker is no damn joke.
Genuinely a candidate for potential GOAT if his career pans out in the extreme positive like that of the top 10. Jokic is in a unique place being the greatest passing big statically NBA history (excluding Magic).
If Jokic finds a way to fit more jewelry in his fingers, we might have to have a real discussion about that greatest Center of all time discussion. Yes. Potentially a top 5 player alert.
1x MVP 1x FMVP 3x MVP (should’ve been 3 consecutive but you know
22. Rick Barry – The ACTUAL “White Mamba”. Just predated the black one… Barry was the answer up until 85’ when you asked who the best SF ever. His game was similar to West but 6’7 and a better FT%. Controversial, cerebral and iconic.
Had so much game he had to share what was left with his sons…
1x Champ 1x FMVP
23. Kevin Garnett – The Big Ticket. The 00’ Giannis. In every way but he had a better jumper midrange and beyond. KG was a monstrosity on OFF/DEF in his prime much like his modern comparison.
Led the TWolves to relevance and led the 08’ Celtics to a chip. Truly the BIG TICKET.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP
24. Dirk Nowitzki – DIGGLER. The one and only. The German Bird. THE Maverick. Dirk is one of the most beloved, iconic and acclaimed players ever. The 00’s stretch big supreme.
Dirk was able to take the Mavs to immortality over 11’ Heat in arguably the most surprising run ever.
Only Dirk. Forever the DIGGLER.
Arguably, the GOAT Euro player.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP
25. Bob Pettit – Big Blue was the first stretch 4 in the games history. That’s for starters. Pettit was a tenacious rebounder and highly skilled scorer.
He was much akin to K. Love of his era but in better shape and played defense. Think a smaller Dirk who grabbed boards like Love but in the 50’s-60’s era. Not only that, much like Dirk, Pettit lead a historic upset over Russell’s Celtics. A true champ.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP
26. Dwayne Wade – The Flash.
Wade County. The greatest Heat in NBA history. Wade is arguably the best defensive player at his position and easily too3 (MJ, Kobe). Led the Heat to a title in 06’ in historic fashion against Dirks Mavs.
Then winning a couple more as LBJ’s Pippen. His career was like Kobe’s… in reverse. Wade’s early injuries reduced his maximum career output but yet here he is… says a ton.
3x Champ 1x FMVP
27. Elgin Baylor – The PROTOTYPE.
Before West, Julius, Thompson, Wilkins, MJ, Hardaway, Kobe, Carter, TMac, Wade, Ant etc
There was Elgin Baylor. The first Air, the first Mamba, the first Half Man/Amazing, Flash etc
Baylor spearheaded an era that hardly wanted his talents there but had no other choice but to be in awe of it.
Think Harden, in shape but not as good of a playmaker, twice the rebounder and a better defender.
That’s Elgin.
*left a season before historic LAL title win
28. David Robinson – The Admiral.
The USA’s biggest weapon in the 90’s was also one of the greatest ever.
Made the spurs relevant pre-Duncan and post. Has some of the greatest seasons statistically. Think Giannis but 7’2 with a lefty and 15 footer plus an even better defender.
2x Champ 1x MVP
29. Karl Malone – the Mailman was LBJ minus the handles and vision.
King of the pick n roll.
1x MVP
30. Charles Barkley – The Round Mound of Rebound was the Tasmanian devil in a basketball jersey.
Prime 25 5 13 guy.
Impact everywhere he went.
OG DREAMTEAM member by the way…
1x MVP
30 (?) Clyde Drexler – The Glide. One of the most useful all around talents in nba history. One of the greatest two way players ever. Helped every squad he went to become a contender.
1x Champ
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As a 36 year old man that has been watching NBA since the 1991-92 season's playoffs(I was 4)
KD is the guy that made me see what the youngsters meant about "old heads" hate every modern NBA player, because the whole "he couldn't beat the Warriors, so he joined them" narrative, and that's all it is, a narrative, because that is not how it went down, I live in Oklahoma, I'm a Thunder fan, I remember that shit vividly, the media has brain washed everyone to hate this man, what really happened? We had one max contract to give(Thunder), we gave it to Russell Westbrook, even though KD was clearly our best player, we asked him to take 2nd best money, meanwhile, the team that just beat him and us as a team, but lost in the Finals, brings the owner, the PBO, the coach and all the best players to the Hamptons, fly you out and tell you, "we'll give you the max, and a couple of rings to go with it" he woulda been stupid to not take that deal, he left my team and I didn't even blame him lol, then he got those rings as the guy, and ever since they have painted him as a bus rider and not a leader, despite the fact that everyone, including Steph was looking at KD like "what are you gonna do" when it came time to close 😂 and he win both Finals MVPs even trying to give the second one to Steph, but ignore all that I guess 🙄 why would they do that? Because in their eyes(the LeMedia) KD cost the golden boy two rings, and now they sound ridiculous calling their "king" the GOAT, that is why, in closing, I have KD #12 on my all time list, behind Mike, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Wilt, Hakeem, LeBron, Duncan and Shaq in that order, he isn't now, nor do I think he will make it into THE GOAT debate, but if someone has him top 10… that's not outrageous, he's probably gonna be in there when he is done 💯
She’s right. There needs to be an asterisk on everything after 2010.
This is my personal opinion Kevin Durant is 610 so he’s playing a small for position. I guess he should be a averaging a double double just like Kevin Love average a double double Rush Wallace. He’s another you talking about you. Sit down and do your logistics the way you do, but what you eat don’t get the next man stomach full, these people have their own doing their own thing the right way and LeBron LeBron has a guard now because we talking about KD now you gonna tell my KD position LeBron not a good rebound and no way is he better than Dr. cause you forget, Dr. Jay is the original rock Park dudes KD went down there, but he didn’t play with Pete Kirkland and autumn people like that manyou gotta respect the game man nobody taking away from the slim reaper ain’t nobody taking nothing from the sniper but he should be playing. He should be averaging a double double.
See they not old school they got to be in the mid 30s male and the other guy up in the corner. I don’t know his name sorry about that fan but I love y’all show. I wish I was on it because y’all debate hard body and I love it. You even got the females in there and they noticed stuff, but you guys are the new generation man LeBron have you ever seen him checking checking Alden play were you around when Dr. Jay were playing when they had the ABA?
Top 10 player that has a burner account and run from comp?? That's not top 10 alpha dog mentality. He a betta
This the last comment I'm a drop on here unless I get replies. I really think the GOAT debate should be separated between "All-Time" and "Modern-Time". Guys did things in previous eras that still goes unrivaled. For instance, Rudy Gobert is considered a Top DPOY in this era. He's damn near the tallest guy in a small league. But compared to other Players of the past like Mutombo, The Admiral, Ben Wallace, Hakeem, KG, Dwight, Alonzo, Rodman, and players who didn't win DPOY like Shaq, is Gobert really that great of a defensive player in comparison or top 5? I think some things in any GOAT debate should have a time frame and it stays. All-Time GOAT debates are too biased. Like Lebron being number 1. If we say since 2010, I got Steph, Lebron, KD. Steph because of impact and influence. Lebron because he's got the rings, MVPs. KD because scoring-wise he's just unstoppable.
The deck stackers shouldn't be even top 50 no one in this era should even be mentioned this game is weak now
I love KD but he's not a top 10 maybe a top 20-25
Steph Curry is ranked higher than KD
Top 10:
MJ
Kareem
Wilt
Kobe
Magic
Duncan
Bird
Hakeem
Shaq
Russell
So I lied, I caught something Mel just said. Kevin Durant played great defense in GSW. Cool, but that's almost 10 years after he entered the league. Playing great defense for a stint, or couple years doesn't make you an all-time great defender in comparison to others who did that for their career. And defensive selections, DPOY, MVP, Chips are an accolade, not a stat.
KD is not a top 10 player and he’s not the best scorer ever so stop it please. And he’s never been a good defender. Sport and Fitness Rants speaking facts.
KD somewhere #12-15. if he somehow leads a team to finals and wins. he can POSSIBLY be ahead of steph. for #11. i dont think he can crack the top 10 though. but who cares 😂 #11-20 is insanely/godly great anyway.
Its insane how out of hand NBA fan community has become with all the fake narratives and history trying to be rewritten for personal agendas. Sad
Homeboy gotta take a chill pill maaan. How does he work out issues with his girl? Calm down Bro, you're messing up the show!!!
Why is zesty Jeffrey rant dude here
Robyn chill these Dudes be bugging on mad thing Durrant is only a Good Heip defender that's it one on one he's Average No he's not top ten in anything be physical he's gonna disappear
I subscribed to ol' girl's channel after I saw her perfectly layout how the media was changing the requirements and had created LeBron's GOAT case, gotta unsubscribe after this, she is using to much assumption in her arguments the more I watch her, also how can you say somebody is the "best player I have ever seen", and not have them top 10, the deck stacker narratove strikes KD again, because it wasn't just a team signing the missing piece, which is what it actually was, I guess KD recruited a bunch of guys to come with him that I forgot about, guess Hakeem is disqualified for bringing in Clyde after they already won the year before, "he's a deck stacker" Dr. J don't get a mention, he brought in Moses and "stacked the deck" 🙄 that has always happened, the media just trying to make it seem like it's as bad as recruiting 2 other current prime top 15 players in the league, because that has only happened twice, both times… their false "king" was the culprit 💯 Sports and Fitness is talking out his ass on this one, out of almost 5,000 men that have played atleast a season in the league, only 235 have averaged 7+ RPG for their career, that is less than 5% of players for those wondering, and most of them are bigs(PF/C) 🤷♂️ he will not shut up long enough to here an argument, and he doesn't address the arguments, he calls them excuses or he changes them, we started out saying KD is a good defender, he starts comparing him to all time defenders 🙄 nobody ever said that he was on that level, if you listen more you would be able to keep up bro, and you mean the media who hate KD didn't vote for him on All Defensive teams… no, I'm shocked lol 😒 he is one of these "old heads" the youngsters be talking about that won't give a new guy nothin, he arguing with himself, I would ask him, "do you even need me for this conversation" god, he literally left while the caller was talking to him, you can't deal with a dude like that 💯 and now its offensive rebounds only, its just you have to jump to his next beef, its all emotional, and the caller that agreed with him, sounds just as wild, can't even name his top 10 without thinking about it, because the whole ammount of thought that went in it was, "I hate KD, I'm not gonna put him in my top 10", wow I hadn't made it to where he said Rick Barry 🤯
I think just based off eye test KD has an argument for top 10. If Im assesing accolades and accomplishments then the list does indeed become sliding scale because the rules changes alters who is successful and what is required for that success.
I like the new guy (Robin). When asked to make a list he said I don't need to do that. He took it straight to "Stomp the Yard' and said… I don't step… I battle. Y'all gonna have to step that game up and that's always a good thing
KD went krazy in 21. Giannis, Holiday & Middleton was getting embarrassed by KD.
Lebron vs Durant 17 finals 33-12-10 if that’s locking up That’s crazy
Top Ten “Talent” size and skill level.
He’s never driven the bus…
and I do not hold the more to Golden State against him… the man would’ve won three straight… and he was the reason.
Golden State wasn’t winning those titles without him~ IDC care what yall say about Russell Westbrook… KD couldn’t have won a championship with him..
that’s why he left..
Crazy Flat Earther~ relax, the Earth for damn sure ain’t a spinning globe hurtling through space…
calling someone crazy is dismissive, and a horrible way to make a point about Kyrie… had nothing to do with basketball nor KD’s legacy as a player.
He would be great and elite in any era…
Offensive Talent alone you can’t name ten players who were better, more skilled, and excelled more in their role, than KD.
Robin is annoying as hell Mel, he wanna do all the talking 😂😂😂
KD didn’t scapegoat Russ…he got his rings to shut media up.
This is very simple. Rate KD basketball skills, without the awards as you do, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Dominique Wilkins, etc, etc.
How does Steph Curry and the Warriors get a pass in the team stacking debate? True their core was built thru the draft and free agents, but lets not act like they didn't run to KD after choking in the finals and of course in 2021, the Nets didn't win because of injuries and KDs toe on the line..
Not in MY book and I tell You Why?there are to Many players records Speaks for the Selves 1 MJ 2 Kareem 3 Kobe. 4 Wilt. 5. Harkeem. 6. DrJ. 7. Magic. 8 Bird. 9 Bill Russell. 10 Oskar Robinson are true greats Standing at the gate👍🤓 LeBron Jerry West Shaq and Tim Duncan rest MY Case🎩*