In the Vogel offense there was very little use of pick and roll, most of AD’s offense came from the post up forcing him to create by himself, which led to some difficult looks.
Ham is using AD a lot in the pick and roll just like Alvin Gentry did with him in New Orleans. Making life easier on offense for him and the team.
Gristle__McThornbody
Lebron was also in the PNR action a lot yesterday. Very successful.
hitdifferently
Bron as a roller might actually be better.
Zeetheking1
Just for comparison, what is league average points per possession for this?
BrianC_
It’s not just AD. It’s LeBron, Wenyen, and TB, too. Wenyen in particular has actually been a really good roller with his screen into inside turn and seal. I wish AD would try that more.
Edit: I thought Wenyen was good but I just checked and he’s 1.91 PPP on PnRs as a roll man. That is not just good. That is actually fucking insane at a 99.1 percentile.
mightyrj
The thing that I really appreciate about Ham’s PNR offense is that it’s not just a straight up high PNR, instead they have different angles and iterations that they run to be able to give options to the ball handler. They also have doing a lot more off ball movement and slip screens to make the defense honest. If this team can shoot average from 3 it can be very dangerous.
TitaniumHwayt
Felt like 2k lol. Spamming PnR on the right block and thing is AD and Bron is interchangeable and Bron and Russ is interchangeable.
Hollowpoint808
Interesting….
keepgrindingact
I think we gotta keep using bron AD pNr near the post. That was so effective because bron is closer to the rim and can attack quicker w less steps compared to the high pNr at the top of the key. Obv this shit won’t work in the post season once teams blitz it, but it should be pretty successful in the regular season.
Bron and AD r the 2 most prolific scorers in the league. When bron attacks the rim off the screen, the defense either tries to stop his layup or the rolling AD. One of them is usually open which makes it an easy bucket.
The issue was bron wasn’t getting downhill and being aggressive off the screen like Russ has been in the pNr earlier in the season. I presume this is because bron has to waste too much energy getting to the rim if he’s far away from the basket in the high pNr. But if he does it near the post, he’s at the rim in like two steps, which saves a ton of his energy.
I think ham saw that yesterday and will make it one of the main offensive actions in crunch time.
3nnui
Ham has been awesome. He had the deck stacked against him with a complicated roster and a tough schedule. But he has the team moving in the right direction. I’m stoked that we have him under contract for years to come.
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In the Vogel offense there was very little use of pick and roll, most of AD’s offense came from the post up forcing him to create by himself, which led to some difficult looks.
Ham is using AD a lot in the pick and roll just like Alvin Gentry did with him in New Orleans. Making life easier on offense for him and the team.
Lebron was also in the PNR action a lot yesterday. Very successful.
Bron as a roller might actually be better.
Just for comparison, what is league average points per possession for this?
It’s not just AD. It’s LeBron, Wenyen, and TB, too. Wenyen in particular has actually been a really good roller with his screen into inside turn and seal. I wish AD would try that more.
Edit: I thought Wenyen was good but I just checked and he’s 1.91 PPP on PnRs as a roll man. That is not just good. That is actually fucking insane at a 99.1 percentile.
The thing that I really appreciate about Ham’s PNR offense is that it’s not just a straight up high PNR, instead they have different angles and iterations that they run to be able to give options to the ball handler. They also have doing a lot more off ball movement and slip screens to make the defense honest. If this team can shoot average from 3 it can be very dangerous.
Felt like 2k lol. Spamming PnR on the right block and thing is AD and Bron is interchangeable and Bron and Russ is interchangeable.
Interesting….
I think we gotta keep using bron AD pNr near the post. That was so effective because bron is closer to the rim and can attack quicker w less steps compared to the high pNr at the top of the key. Obv this shit won’t work in the post season once teams blitz it, but it should be pretty successful in the regular season.
Bron and AD r the 2 most prolific scorers in the league. When bron attacks the rim off the screen, the defense either tries to stop his layup or the rolling AD. One of them is usually open which makes it an easy bucket.
The issue was bron wasn’t getting downhill and being aggressive off the screen like Russ has been in the pNr earlier in the season. I presume this is because bron has to waste too much energy getting to the rim if he’s far away from the basket in the high pNr. But if he does it near the post, he’s at the rim in like two steps, which saves a ton of his energy.
I think ham saw that yesterday and will make it one of the main offensive actions in crunch time.
Ham has been awesome. He had the deck stacked against him with a complicated roster and a tough schedule. But he has the team moving in the right direction. I’m stoked that we have him under contract for years to come.