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Chev, I respect you stood by him all this time and know when time is up and the truth has to come out. I want Fred to achieve success but compared to Siakam and OG, he is not reliable. I want him to be, but there is no such thing as bad games for reliable players, maybe one bad game here and there, they figure shit out and solve problems, he's not there. I just hope he hasn't plateau. When you watch Lillard and Curry play, heck even Lowry, they are always there, one bad game once in a while. I'm not asking Fred to be them, but you need to either score 15 every night or give 10 dimes when you're not. He's either 15 points or nothing. That's subpar bench player in the NBA, he's getting starter minutes. I'm playing fantasy now, I see a lotta players and a lotta stats from bench players to superstars, Fred is not even playing top 100 lately. Nobody is except Siakam and OG. Him not feeding OG is a big question mark, I know OG is the "younger" ones from his generation but its not 2019 anymore, OG is one of the big boys, treat him like one.
So who's responsible for the players on the floor and on the bench?coach!!!!!! It's all I got to say!
I know I'm gonna get alot of heat for this…but I would trade van fleet …
Raps management over pay for mediocre talent. Time reveals all. Fake gold plated jewelery eventually rubs off and reveals what's underneath. Fred is just an overachiever that managed to get his payday before the plates or veneers rubbed off. In the NBA u have to have the total package. Skills, size, athleticism, and intangibles. Fred has the intangibles but lacks the other criteria. Fred is a glorified Payton Pritchard who may even have more tools in his bag.
FVV should bet on his teammates rather than himself
Give Dowtin and Flynn some playing time NN like come on.
At the beginning of the season Fred was playing off ball and the team was moving the ball better, now he's back doing the same shit.
Dude hasn’t shot over 50 percent since 2018… it’s enough already.
finally people are starting to see what I've been saying all this time. Fred is fool's gold people. We should've traded him when his value peaked. I had I high hopes in the offseason that Fred would adjust seamlessly to more of a PG role when he said he was going to play more off ball but bad habits are hard to break and he's stuck in that undersized SG type of player.
Has otto played a game this season? I didnt even remember he was on the team
We gotta let Dalano play more pg mins. He has had games where he looks bad too but if Fred is gonna play horribly we may as well let the 6’9 guy play and develop as well!
It's just so crazy so many of ya'll that were bashing siakiam and wanted him traded and he's not a number one option to now I see so many comments that he's a number one option. Make up your mind fairweather fans🤣🤣
FVV , even Chev gave up on you man 😂
I remember shaking my head when bol bol broke his ankles
Well, no too long ago, we were contemplating whether or not to trade Fred. I'm thinking of trade once again…
I felt bad for Siakam on this one, no fkn excuses vs Magic, FVV frustrated me, split free throws to tie game rather than take the lead, then forces up a game tying shot, just be a PG untill your shot comes back
im done defending fred, hes fucking cooked
I dont think he needs to come off the bench, but he def needs his minutes cut, it should be determined on how he starts, if he starts hot and feeds the team keep him on, but the moment he starts chucking and missing bench him
OG has to be assertive. He can not rely on Fred to give him the ball because these guys are competing for the second best player on the team. OG seems to be progressing to that player and Fred is being threatened by OG
Fred used to give Pascal the same treatment but things have changed because Pascal now can make his own plays and does not need Fred. Love your show 😮
I am glad Fred was not given his contract extension 😢
Fred seems to be betting on himself a little too much these days 😞
Barnes, GTJ, OG, Siakam and Koloko 🔥
I promise y’all we’re a 5th or 4th seed with this lineup.
I would like the Raps to consider a trade between 2 teams to consider with a third team:Spurs happening regardless.
**Indiana: Andrew Nembhard/Turner/Buddy Hield/T.J. McConnell/
FV/Gary Trent/Champagnie/Bo Cruz/2 or 3 Future Second Round Picks*
*Utah: Sexton/Markannen/Kelly Olynyk/Clarkson
FV/Gary Trent/Champagnie/Bo Cruz/Young/ 1 Future First Round Pick and 3 Future Second Round Picks or 2 Future First Round Picks and 1 Future Second Round Pick
*San Antonio: Poetl (Flynn/Birch/2 Future Second Rd Picks)
Having pascal and scottie running that two man game at the end of the season last year is what got scottie the ROTY, Pascal on All NBA, and us to the 4th seed to be honest because Fred and OG were out! And you are right having Fred feed OG would be best to keep Fred as our playmaker and OG as our 2nd option.
Give Dowtin minutes eff this
I have watched Fred, OG , Pascal and Boucher grow from the “ G” league, and I love them all , but there are some games now where Fred’s style of play becomes a liability, and our opponents exploit it . He can’t cope with the younger , faster players. They need to rethink how they utilize him . 76 ers have a similar problem . There are some games where it’s best to sit Joel Embid because he slows up the game , and let Tyrese Maxey do his thing .
Thanks for the reminder Chev, what happened to our 2 man game? Last year we used to kill them with Fred/P, Scottie/Fred, OG/Fred. It’s disappeared this year…
Nurse won't play bench guys again, habit!
Playing starters too many minuets, injuries!
Nurse starters does not matter how bad they play
Nurse needs to get out of the box
This is the Chev I love. I don’t normally comment, I’m old school but these boys have to be held accountable. No excuse. They have a better team than last year and apparently put in more work this off season, we saw the Rico runs. Something gotta give.
Nick inherited a championship quality team after Cassey was let go. Gleeson's offense sucks. We really have no D either
Fred shooting bricks, not distributing the ball, playing hero ball and failing. Does everyone realize that Fred has the lowest FG% on the entire team? I think we should bench both Fred and his dad Nick Nurse. Let Nick sit behind there the bench where the secondary coaches sit for a couple of games. Bring in Dowtin for some minutes, Malaki has looked good with the minimum minutes he has been given.
I kept telling everyone that in Hines summer camp not to write much into all the 3 pt shots going in. Everyone said I was wacked, well guess who was right. Proof in the Puddin folks. Scottie wrong mindset. Issue with this it possibly may not change. He could be a beast but he has not had the snap that he is going to be better than ok
For a while, to love Fred was all we could do. Fred was young, and we knew in our eyes he was alive. Deep inside, we knew our love was true. For a while, we paid no mind to the shooting. We knew love would last every night.
Something right would invite us to begin the dance.
But… Something had happened along the way.
What used to be happy was sad. Something happened along the way. And yesterday's Chip was all we had.
And, oh, after the love has gone. Fred, how could you lead us on?
Oh, oh, oh!
After the love has gone.
What used to be right is wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUCLNPOjPZw
Trade Fred for literally anyone.
FRED VANVLEET IS NOTHING COMPARED TO KYLE LOWRY. KYLE would use his body for everything defence and offence even in his 30s. FRED i dunno 😡
Chev said it best, the hunger is there, the passion is there but the preparation is not there.
Fred is not a starting Point Guard for 82 games without another point guard just as good as him on the team. From last year I was thinking Wagner was better than Scottie. It's been a long time coming but change needs to come. I think when coach call out Jr. it was unfair, he is not over paid
Thats the problem overpaying people who don't perform for what they get paid, you miss playoffs
If you can't teach certain players to Perform certain ways go get players that will play that way.
Yes no more saving. He needs to be benched. I have always been saying that Pascal is the leader of the team. Not Fred!