Dallas traded Robert Traylor for Dirk Nowitzki and Garrity was an even more lopsided trade. Especially since Dallas used Garrity (along a first round pick) to get Nash.
You have to remember that the Celtics taking Tatum was going to happen whether the trade was made or not and the pick that the Celtics got for 2019 in the deal turned into a bust. Also, the Sixers traded Fultz for the pick that became Tyrese Maxey.
Anyone that calls Markelle Fultz a bust has ZERO basketball knowledge, bro had a career ending injury and now shoots better free throws than actual bust Lonzo Ball. Also, since he came back the Magic has been winning like crazy, but I guess you will say it is a coincidence lol If it wasnt for that injury, he would be on the same level if not better than Tatum
Ainge was very clear in that draft that he didn't care for Fultz. He didn't say who he wanted, but he did not want Fultz or Ball. He swapped the picks and explained it by saying he would get the guy he wants anyway. There was a lot of speculation on who that player was with Tatum being the most popular projection, but no one knew for sure. If Ainge was still at 1 I'm sure he would still have taken the player he wanted in Tatum. If Ainge thought there was any chance that the Sixers or Lakers were going to take Tatum then he wouldn't have made the swap. This just ended up being one of those bad luck picks for the Sixers as Fultz was the consensus #1 for most. Interesting to note that Red Auerbach swapped his own #1 for a #3 in 1980 so that he could take McHale and let the Warriors draft Joe Barry Carroll. Red also picked up Robert Parrish in that same deal.
this video is a great example of the fallacy of the predetermined outcome. the fallacy of the predetermined outcome is a phrase frequently used by yankees announcer michael kay to refer to the flawed logic behind thinking that event x is set in stone and would have happened regardless of all events leading up to it. there is no certainty behind the idea that is jayson tatum was drafted by the 76ers he would be the player we know today. same thing with markelle fultz. for all we know jayson tatum on the 76ers is a bum and markelle on the celtics is a superstar this entire video runs on one big illogical and faulty thought process,
I would say a similar situation was the 1980 draft. The Warriors traded up to get the #1 overall pick, trading with Boston and giving them a player in return for swapping picks.
With the #1 overall pick, the Warriors selected Joe Barely Cares… er, Joe Barry Carroll.
The Celtics used their pick to get Kevin McHale. And the player the Warriors threw in to swap up to the #1 pick was Robert Parish.
being from stl i got to watch tatum a lot from the start of his high school career in 2017 i was one of the very few that would have had him go 1st overall from watching him play and getting a feel of the time of person he is i just knew he was going to succeed
Markelle Was Dealt A Bad Hand And Is Flourishing Right Now ! Magic’s Go To The Playoffs That Say A lot Of What He Will Be Curry Had A Rough Start Yes He Showed Flashes Markelle Has As Well
Sixers got Tyrese Maxey out of all of this so it is not that bad in the end if you take things to there conclusion, no way could anyone see that Fultz would develop that weird shoulder situation, Sixers got a young potential star in Maxey out of that horrible initial trade.
I wouldnt call fultz a bust. Hes still impactful and his issues were injury related. I hate calling guys derailed by injury busts. That word is used too much. Wiggins was called a bust averaging 20ppg with a blk steal and like 7 boards. Thats an allstar.
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Fultz had a string of season-ending injuries.
It all boils down to that.
Dallas traded Robert Traylor for Dirk Nowitzki and Garrity was an even more lopsided trade. Especially since Dallas used Garrity (along a first round pick) to get Nash.
Calling Fultz a bust is the most unfair shit ever. Dude had nothing going his way, and still gonna be a starter in this league
You have to remember that the Celtics taking Tatum was going to happen whether the trade was made or not and the pick that the Celtics got for 2019 in the deal turned into a bust. Also, the Sixers traded Fultz for the pick that became Tyrese Maxey.
Bryan Colangelo and the NBA overthrew Hinkie and destroyed the Process.
If Markelle never hurts his shoulder he is a top ten pg in the league and Philly has a chip
Anyone that calls Markelle Fultz a bust has ZERO basketball knowledge, bro had a career ending injury and now shoots better free throws than actual bust Lonzo Ball. Also, since he came back the Magic has been winning like crazy, but I guess you will say it is a coincidence lol
If it wasnt for that injury, he would be on the same level if not better than Tatum
The fact that the Nets gave away so many picks and end up hurting them in the long run smh…
Ainge was very clear in that draft that he didn't care for Fultz. He didn't say who he wanted, but he did not want Fultz or Ball. He swapped the picks and explained it by saying he would get the guy he wants anyway. There was a lot of speculation on who that player was with Tatum being the most popular projection, but no one knew for sure. If Ainge was still at 1 I'm sure he would still have taken the player he wanted in Tatum. If Ainge thought there was any chance that the Sixers or Lakers were going to take Tatum then he wouldn't have made the swap. This just ended up being one of those bad luck picks for the Sixers as Fultz was the consensus #1 for most. Interesting to note that Red Auerbach swapped his own #1 for a #3 in 1980 so that he could take McHale and let the Warriors draft Joe Barry Carroll. Red also picked up Robert Parrish in that same deal.
this video is a great example of the fallacy of the predetermined outcome. the fallacy of the predetermined outcome is a phrase frequently used by yankees announcer michael kay to refer to the flawed logic behind thinking that event x is set in stone and would have happened regardless of all events leading up to it. there is no certainty behind the idea that is jayson tatum was drafted by the 76ers he would be the player we know today. same thing with markelle fultz. for all we know jayson tatum on the 76ers is a bum and markelle on the celtics is a superstar this entire video runs on one big illogical and faulty thought process,
The trade wouldn't have mattered because Ainge would've taken Tatum 1st overall if they weren't able to trade down.
I would say a similar situation was the 1980 draft. The Warriors traded up to get the #1 overall pick, trading with Boston and giving them a player in return for swapping picks.
With the #1 overall pick, the Warriors selected Joe Barely Cares… er, Joe Barry Carroll.
The Celtics used their pick to get Kevin McHale. And the player the Warriors threw in to swap up to the #1 pick was Robert Parish.
being from stl i got to watch tatum a lot from the start of his high school career in 2017 i was one of the very few that would have had him go 1st overall from watching him play and getting a feel of the time of person he is i just knew he was going to succeed
Markelle Was Dealt A Bad Hand And Is Flourishing Right Now ! Magic’s Go To The Playoffs That Say A lot Of What He Will Be Curry Had A Rough Start Yes He Showed Flashes Markelle Has As Well
And this kids is reason number 685,798,453 why you do not trade with Danny Ainge.
Sixers got Tyrese Maxey out of all of this so it is not that bad in the end if you take things to there conclusion, no way could anyone see that Fultz would develop that weird shoulder situation, Sixers got a young potential star in Maxey out of that horrible initial trade.
Imagine that lucky team that would’ve got Tatum if Ainge wasn’t obsessed with him?
Danny Ainge effect 🤣😅😂
Fultz ain’t a Bust. He’s just the most unlucky player in recent history. He’s like Greg oden. Oden wasn’t a bust either. Just ungodly unlucky
I wouldnt call fultz a bust. Hes still impactful and his issues were injury related. I hate calling guys derailed by injury busts. That word is used too much. Wiggins was called a bust averaging 20ppg with a blk steal and like 7 boards. Thats an allstar.
Jaylen Brown next video Sporting Logically 🙏🙏🙏
You should definitely do a video on the Luka-Trae draft night trade