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A new rock bottom? The New York Knicks get thoroughly outclassed by the tanking San Antonio Spurs



Alex goes solo to break down the Knicks’ 122-115 loss to the San Antonio Spurs, their fifth straight L. Included topics are why the absence of RJ Barrett and Jalen Brunson doesn’t excuse the poor effort, why there’s no way this loss is not an indictment on Tom Thibodeau’s ability to get his team ready, an ode to Julius Randle and Immanuel Quickley’s fantastic nights, and whip-around coverage of an otherwise poor night for the rest of the roster.

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29 Comments

  1. It's time for a change, fire Thibs, and make a trade to upgrade this team, nobody on this roster is untouchable. Start with a package centering around Barrett and whoever else has to be included players/picks and get a real star in here already, If this team falls apart and they fail to upgrade at the deadlline then Rose, World Wide Wes and Thibs all need to be fired at seasons end.

  2. We area 500 team. And yes without jb and rj we are a bad team. Without them we play a lot of inconsistent guys, that's just the way it is.

  3. lucky if they sniff being near .500……this team is missing a legit coach…all thibs has done is demoralize players……..both randle & quickley need to be elsewhere, they think they are better than they are….do we win this game with brunson & RJ…i hv to think yes……..i just dont like thibs being the head coach, i wouldnt want him as an assistant either…..like where is this team going??????? answer is NOWHERE………we all know there are ahandful of real team teams…and knicks arent one of them……….theyre always too good to eliminate themselves from the #1 pick and arent going o get a STAR to come here except for trading for one…….they shouldve jumped on the mitchell trade…who cares about picks that are little high school teenagers popping their pimples right now….even when they get drafted thibs wont play them anyway….so those picks should be used in atrade without hesitation..

  4. All good teams have a couple of good 1 on 1 defenders. We're scoring. We need a couple of athletic, lockdown defenders.

  5. THE KNICKS BEAT THE WARRIORS THEN "LOCKED ON KNICKS" GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE IT A POINT TO POINT OUT THIS FEAT WAS DONE WITHOUT STEPH CURRY AND EVEN PUT IT IN THE TITLE OF THAT EPISODE AND YET THE KNICKS LOSE TO THE SPURS WITHOUT 2 OF OUR STARTERS, BRUNSON AND RJ AND WHERE IS THAT IN THE TITLE??? THE KNICKS LOST WITHOUT 2 OF OUR IMPORTANT STARTERS, WHERE IS THAT SAME ENERGY "LOCKED ON KNICKS"??? SO ALEX WOLFE YOU'RE GOING TO OVERREACT THAT WE LOST A CLOSE ONE TO THE SPURS WITHOUT 2 OF OUR STARTERS, PLAYING OUR YOUNG GUYS WITH MORE MINUTES THAN THEY ARE USED TO IN F'N SAN ANTONIO AT THAT!!??? COME ON MAAAN!!! ROCK BOTTOM FOR REAL? LET'S LOOK AT THE KNICKS RECORD AND NOW TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE TOP TEAMS THROUGHOUT THE LEAGUE, WHAT U WILL FIND IS THAT THE KNICKS ARE IN THERE WITH THE TOP TEAMS IN THE NBA, BIG FACTS! I'M NOT SAYING THE KNICKS WILL WIN THE CHIP, JUST SAYING PUMP THE BREAKS ON THE OVERREACTION. LOW-IQ BASKETBALL FANS MAY FALL FOR THE BANANA IN THE TAILPIPE BUT SOME OF US REALLY KNOW BASKETBALL AND "CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING, THE KNICKS STRUGGLED AND FOUGHT TO THE END AND ALMOST PULLED IT OUT WITH ALL THE VARIABLES I MENTIONED STACKED AGAINST THEM, I WOULD SAY I AM QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THIS YOUNG GROUP, U FIND OUT WHAT U HAVE IN A YOUNG TEAM THROUGH ADVERSITY AND NOT WHEN EVERYTHING IS LAID OUT FOR YOU. YOU GUYS GOTTA DO BETTER, ROCK BOTTOM??? THAT'S INSULTING TO YOUR VIEWERS. YOU CAN CRITICIZE THE KNICKS WITHOUT GOING INTO HYPERBOLE, YOU KNOW THE SAME WAY YOU TREAT THE WINS??? EVEN KEEL, BE CONSISTENT. LOGIC ♟

  6. Question, is Svi so much worse than Fournier right now?? With Barrett and Brunson out. Rose looks very different, Evan is Evan. If your not playing Cam to trade him then why no give Svi play. Everytime he gets garbage minutes hes splashing 3's. He has height to plays against some wings and maybe he defense is suspect. So is Evans… Try something different already. Rose and Fournier?!?! Im putting this up at your 4min mark so it might be mentioned, but Thibs just feels bad for this team right now. Annoying…

  7. Let me get this straight.. During the 8 game win streak the narrative was. "The other teams players were injured". Now 2 of our top 3 players are injured, and the loss is inexcusable?? Just saying. Damn. Are we as Knick fans really this Bi Polar??

  8. If n.y. didn't go on that 8 game win streak tom thibadeau would've probably been fired by now so fans could really see what n.y. is working with because the Knicks do have talent.

  9. If losing is what it takes to get rid of Thibs I'm here for it 💯 🤣 Fans saying we need one more piece but we have Cam Reddish.
    We not playing a good player because the coach doesn't like him he never did obviously the front office liked him 💯 Playing Burks over quickly at Pg for most of last year
    Not playing the rookies until the very end of last season even though we were out of the playoffs because Thibs is stubborn 😠
    He's not a good offensive coach. He needs players who can create there own shot because he can't come up with good plays 💯 If he didn't have the best player in the world at the time Derrick Rose we wouldn't be calling Thibs a good coach.
    Thibs not encouraging Mitchell Robinson or bigs to post up in games even when they have mismatches 😩
    Thibs not playing zone or getting the ball out great players hands when they catch fire because he stuck in his ways😑
    Him thinking a 6'4 6'5 guard (Grimes) can guard Luka one on most of the night 😭night
    This coach is Toxic for our culture

  10. Fire this coach already. His defensive system is from the 90s. Doesn't work in the modern NBA. And his crunch time offense of iso plays is dumb as shit. This franchise needs to enter the modern era.

  11. I have great respect for you guys, but this trade Julius Randle and go for some "star" is really misguided.
    1. Julius Randle should not be traded. Good players should stay on your team
    2. This regime is not going to trade Randle

    I also disagree with your tanking option – no pro team in any sport should ever tank.
    Trading Julius for draft picks is tanking.
    Tanking = losing, now and forever
    It does not work, and never will.
    No tanking

    The Knicks, this year, should make the playoffs. That is good enough for me.
    The Knicks have enough draft capital. What they need to do is develop the players they have.

    I do agree with you on Thibs. He is not a good coach at this point, as you correctly pointed out how he is either unable or unwilling to make in-game adjustments. His color-by-numbers way of coaching basketball does not work. There is enough talent on this team to get a 6 seed, and after that, who knows.
    Yes, they would have a low probability of winning a series, but that would be a fun ride for me.
    You would rather tank for some lottery ticket. No thank you.

    So I do agree that Thibs should be fired, and as soon as possible.
    As to a replacement, there are so many good young coaches out there, with some college options
    like Kelvin Sampson and the "retired" Jay Wright available as well.

    Lastly, on your last pod you correctly pointed out how Hartenstein is not being used correctly. This is totally on Thibs.
    Putting Hart in the corner on offense does not take advantage on the one skill he has – passing.
    Given that Thuibs will not change and play him at the high post, Sims should play ahead of Hart.

  12. Jesus Christ am I tired of everything coming back to trade Randle,he plays badly and it's trade Randle'then he plays well 'and it'let's cash out on Randle;.The guy is not going to get you enough to make it worth trading him and the Knicks are not going to tank and trading Randle is TANKING and his contract is a good contract and we have control of it for 3 and a half more years and the worst thing is any contending team will give you picks in the 20s and they aren't giving you any young players only expiring contracts back

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