Steve Kerr gave an honest response after @DamonAndRatto asked him if they “owe it to James Wiseman to either start playing him or trade him?” (via 95.7)
Steve Kerr gave an honest response after @DamonAndRatto asked him if they “owe it to James Wiseman to either start playing him or trade him?” (via 95.7)
That last part, “however it plays out” probably signals that indeed a Wiseman trade is a possibility the FO is strongly considering.
bilyl
HE GONE
icame2
Doesn’t really sound like Kerr wants him there. I don’t think wiseman’s personality gels but I could be wrong. He stopped now but I remember he would call for the ball every time he got in the post. On a team like gsw they would stop what they were doing and give it to him. I suppose it would be fine if he finished at a high clip but he didn’t. And many times it couldn’t even get to him since the defending team saw him calling for it like crazy.
The last few games he played he stopped calling for it and just tried to defend and crash the boards. For his height and size he’s surprisingly not a great rebounder. For looneys lack of athleticism he’s surprisingly a great rebounder. So wiseman just hasn’t found a place yet and he’s running out of time.
Liemoa
If wiseman was a good player, losing him would be tough. But he’s not. And assuming he’ll put it together and be a star is based off of nothing, other than people wanting a Cinderella ending for him
ragged-robin
just play him over JMG with a short leash… ezpz. JMG is most definitely not and has definitely not ever shown he’s a solid, reliable player on the floor this season to warrant otherwise
bl123123bl
WiseUp let him cook
feelnoways2020
“I’m a huge fan, and however this plays out…” -Kerr
Parue
Wiseman should honestly focus on his defense. Set a proper good screen. Rebounding. Set his teammates for success. When you watch Wiseman set screen, he rolls to the paint too early and looks for his offense. Kuminga has playing time right now because of his defense. He should follow what kuminga is doing right now.
Hungry-Act8691
He gone. Finally.
Schraiber
Steve is literally telling the FO to trade Wiseman
sriracha82
Wiseman + JaMychal + a pick for a useful expiring role player PLS
Accomplished_Iron805
Just trade him already. This is destroying Wiseman’s career and holding the team back.
Jicama-Smart
Steve knows the good words
Tnevz
A bunch of nothing in this quote. You can either read into
> … however this plays out
Or
> … I hope I get to continue to coach him
Something for the Wiseman doomers and fans. Kerr is a master at saying absolutely nothing.
billymartinkicksdirt
Free Wiseman. Who needs a power forward?
contaygious
I’ve heard kerr say this a lot of times myself
wheeno
Trade him. He doesn’t fit the team and he isn’t good enough to change the team to feature him. Get someone who can help now instead of worrying about 2027. Not like wiseman at his best is going to lead anybody to a title in 2027 anyway. Let him go somewhere he can take all the shots he wants and have the offense dictated around him. Somewhere he can learn the basic fundamentals of rebounding and defense without worrying about winning.
neo9027581673
Warriors ain’t trading Wiseman. You think Lacob drove down to Santa Cruz with his wife and gave Wiseman a standing ovation for his health? Believe Monte Poole, they don’t want to trade him.
tmoeagles96
You know Kerr is a master at saying nothing but making it seem like he said everything when there are like 20 comments in this thread saying “Kerr basically said…” and they’re all different.
Brownies91
Lol this dude is sooo getting traded
booger_eater69
If they’re not sending him to SC with Moody then they’re probably shopping him. That’s my guess anyway. Kerr said he’s the 4th string center right now so he’s not getting PT with the big club.
bear2bebull
This team isn’t good enough to justify not playing him for his development. Either have the vets play more disciplined or just play the young guys more. No need to waste the season playing one year guys to squeak into a play in
HonestlyDobby
I will never give up on Wiseman. I still think he will be a top 5 center in the NBA as a member of the Warriors if they give him time to develop. Centers take longer and he came into the league practically out of high school. Even if it takes multiple years I will still root for him to succeed. I can feel it in my gut that he will be an all star for this team someday
AestheticPenguinMan
Let Wiseman play. Let Wiseman shoot. He’s a bucket
pinkiebear
He makes too many mistakes and is too lost the majority of the time to ever play significant minutes IMO.
Keeping him doesn’t do favors for either party.
cyb3ryung
its not because hes on a vet team, he’s older than Kuminga so it’s deeper than that
nghbrhd_slackr87
Walker Kessler will have more career minutes than Wiseman by next week.
This is not intended to comparerhe two or say “obviously on is a good player the other isn’t” but be the simplest example of why Wiseman fell into the toughest situation for him on all fronts.
There are 29 other teams that’d have played him more and probably gotten better public sentiment out of it. Like we genuinely have about five segments of opinions on Wise and it should be universally “hope he plays well and helps us win”. Too many armchair GMs out there (me included) tge best policy with Wiseman honestly is to not even talk it out if he ain’t playing.
Drafted by Orlando or OKC or Charlotte or Chicago he’d have played 30 minutes or until he fouled out. Probably averaged 20 and 10 and despite his defensive issues folks would’ve been upbeat about him as a 19 year old figuring it out on the fly.
Firstly here he plays alongside three legends and any struggle he has is weighed against their legacy. Ie “we have the trade him to save Steph’s prime” so he automatically becomes a scapegoat anytime folks think “this team ought to be better”.
Here he has a coach who prioritizes winning every game and will bury him for several games after 4 bad minutes of play. No playing through mistakes here.
Here he has a system the is a mismatch for his unique strengths and skills which are his offensive touch craft as a face up big. Here he’s instead asked to be a no usage bug body screener, passer and “space carver outter” a la Looney and Bogut. Two bigs with exceptional high feel for bigs (few nba bigs see the game like those two).
The list goes on and on tbh… the 2020-21 season we knew it wasn’t really a “good team” and Steph was playing MVP ball. Wiseman played 15 games with ups and downs and but a few REALLY GOOD showings especially for a 19 year old straight outta high school. But he missed a covid test and was punished by being held out. Hurt his wrist. Got Covid. Then hurt his knee. He played 39 games. Was yo-yo’d back and forth in the lineup about as bad as anyone you call “valued” by a team and you’d call it tough love… I call it organizational insecurity. They were worried Steph wouldn’t extend and got deep in their feelings about dragging a middling team to something anything that you’d call a positive outcome and squeezed the absolute best last 20 games they could out of it.
That season was so poorly done… cuz let’s be honest it just wasn’t a good enough team to compete. Was JTA our 5th best player? Had Wiseman been drafted by the Bulls or OKC or Orlando would’ve just played every game 24 minutes ans struggled and learned. He would’ve racked up stats in a way folks would chill on the defensive criticism as he figured it out. If 19 year old guy averages 20-10 on a bad team he certainly buys himself some breathing room… and I think he would’ve been far more well thought of in ANY other environment in the NBA (maybe not a thibs team). Folks with that real common sense understand Oubre and Bazemore and Wanamaker were more of the issue than Wiseman but he took the blame as the public face of that seasons struggle.
Go Wise! Go Dubs!
ColtranezRain
I just dont get the trade angle. This system requires good decision making skills in under 0.5 sec (Poole withstanding), lots of motion, passing, screening, and cutting. There is no big that is going to be available for what we can offer while providing those things AND play better than Looney or Draymond at the 4 or 5. So why would you give up assets for what amounts to a bench big that most likely will take the remainder of the season to learn the system? The names I’ve seen all get paid to much to be a bench big.
Stomper8479
I hope we keep him he’s going to be a very good player.
Robotsaur
Doesn’t really strike me as an honest answer. He’s basically saying nothing, this is just generic coach-speak.
LogansGambit
Imagine not playing Wiseman, messing with his growth as a player, causing hard feelings and possibly leading to being traded away…to play JaMychal Green instead.
Kerr can say whatever PR speak he wants. That’s a bad coaching decision and he won’t get enough flack or it.
x-gsom-ab612
The 3-7 start to the season (with a 0-5 road trip) altered the direction of the team completely. Maybe Kerr was more willing to hang in there with Wiseman if the road trip went differently (something like 3-2) but alas here we are. Kerr opening up minutes to the 2-way players afterwards.
Really only Joku was able to snap out of the bad start to the season for the bench and now looks like a permanent fixture in the rotation.
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That last part, “however it plays out” probably signals that indeed a Wiseman trade is a possibility the FO is strongly considering.
HE GONE
Doesn’t really sound like Kerr wants him there. I don’t think wiseman’s personality gels but I could be wrong. He stopped now but I remember he would call for the ball every time he got in the post. On a team like gsw they would stop what they were doing and give it to him. I suppose it would be fine if he finished at a high clip but he didn’t. And many times it couldn’t even get to him since the defending team saw him calling for it like crazy.
The last few games he played he stopped calling for it and just tried to defend and crash the boards. For his height and size he’s surprisingly not a great rebounder. For looneys lack of athleticism he’s surprisingly a great rebounder. So wiseman just hasn’t found a place yet and he’s running out of time.
If wiseman was a good player, losing him would be tough. But he’s not. And assuming he’ll put it together and be a star is based off of nothing, other than people wanting a Cinderella ending for him
just play him over JMG with a short leash… ezpz. JMG is most definitely not and has definitely not ever shown he’s a solid, reliable player on the floor this season to warrant otherwise
WiseUp let him cook
“I’m a huge fan, and however this plays out…” -Kerr
Wiseman should honestly focus on his defense. Set a proper good screen. Rebounding. Set his teammates for success. When you watch Wiseman set screen, he rolls to the paint too early and looks for his offense. Kuminga has playing time right now because of his defense. He should follow what kuminga is doing right now.
He gone. Finally.
Steve is literally telling the FO to trade Wiseman
Wiseman + JaMychal + a pick for a useful expiring role player PLS
Just trade him already. This is destroying Wiseman’s career and holding the team back.
Steve knows the good words
A bunch of nothing in this quote. You can either read into
> … however this plays out
Or
> … I hope I get to continue to coach him
Something for the Wiseman doomers and fans. Kerr is a master at saying absolutely nothing.
Free Wiseman. Who needs a power forward?
I’ve heard kerr say this a lot of times myself
Trade him. He doesn’t fit the team and he isn’t good enough to change the team to feature him. Get someone who can help now instead of worrying about 2027. Not like wiseman at his best is going to lead anybody to a title in 2027 anyway. Let him go somewhere he can take all the shots he wants and have the offense dictated around him. Somewhere he can learn the basic fundamentals of rebounding and defense without worrying about winning.
Warriors ain’t trading Wiseman. You think Lacob drove down to Santa Cruz with his wife and gave Wiseman a standing ovation for his health? Believe Monte Poole, they don’t want to trade him.
You know Kerr is a master at saying nothing but making it seem like he said everything when there are like 20 comments in this thread saying “Kerr basically said…” and they’re all different.
Lol this dude is sooo getting traded
If they’re not sending him to SC with Moody then they’re probably shopping him. That’s my guess anyway. Kerr said he’s the 4th string center right now so he’s not getting PT with the big club.
This team isn’t good enough to justify not playing him for his development. Either have the vets play more disciplined or just play the young guys more. No need to waste the season playing one year guys to squeak into a play in
I will never give up on Wiseman. I still think he will be a top 5 center in the NBA as a member of the Warriors if they give him time to develop. Centers take longer and he came into the league practically out of high school. Even if it takes multiple years I will still root for him to succeed. I can feel it in my gut that he will be an all star for this team someday
Let Wiseman play. Let Wiseman shoot. He’s a bucket
He makes too many mistakes and is too lost the majority of the time to ever play significant minutes IMO.
Keeping him doesn’t do favors for either party.
its not because hes on a vet team, he’s older than Kuminga so it’s deeper than that
Walker Kessler will have more career minutes than Wiseman by next week.
This is not intended to comparerhe two or say “obviously on is a good player the other isn’t” but be the simplest example of why Wiseman fell into the toughest situation for him on all fronts.
There are 29 other teams that’d have played him more and probably gotten better public sentiment out of it. Like we genuinely have about five segments of opinions on Wise and it should be universally “hope he plays well and helps us win”. Too many armchair GMs out there (me included) tge best policy with Wiseman honestly is to not even talk it out if he ain’t playing.
Drafted by Orlando or OKC or Charlotte or Chicago he’d have played 30 minutes or until he fouled out. Probably averaged 20 and 10 and despite his defensive issues folks would’ve been upbeat about him as a 19 year old figuring it out on the fly.
Firstly here he plays alongside three legends and any struggle he has is weighed against their legacy. Ie “we have the trade him to save Steph’s prime” so he automatically becomes a scapegoat anytime folks think “this team ought to be better”.
Here he has a coach who prioritizes winning every game and will bury him for several games after 4 bad minutes of play. No playing through mistakes here.
Here he has a system the is a mismatch for his unique strengths and skills which are his offensive touch craft as a face up big. Here he’s instead asked to be a no usage bug body screener, passer and “space carver outter” a la Looney and Bogut. Two bigs with exceptional high feel for bigs (few nba bigs see the game like those two).
The list goes on and on tbh… the 2020-21 season we knew it wasn’t really a “good team” and Steph was playing MVP ball. Wiseman played 15 games with ups and downs and but a few REALLY GOOD showings especially for a 19 year old straight outta high school. But he missed a covid test and was punished by being held out. Hurt his wrist. Got Covid. Then hurt his knee. He played 39 games. Was yo-yo’d back and forth in the lineup about as bad as anyone you call “valued” by a team and you’d call it tough love… I call it organizational insecurity. They were worried Steph wouldn’t extend and got deep in their feelings about dragging a middling team to something anything that you’d call a positive outcome and squeezed the absolute best last 20 games they could out of it.
That season was so poorly done… cuz let’s be honest it just wasn’t a good enough team to compete. Was JTA our 5th best player? Had Wiseman been drafted by the Bulls or OKC or Orlando would’ve just played every game 24 minutes ans struggled and learned. He would’ve racked up stats in a way folks would chill on the defensive criticism as he figured it out. If 19 year old guy averages 20-10 on a bad team he certainly buys himself some breathing room… and I think he would’ve been far more well thought of in ANY other environment in the NBA (maybe not a thibs team). Folks with that real common sense understand Oubre and Bazemore and Wanamaker were more of the issue than Wiseman but he took the blame as the public face of that seasons struggle.
Go Wise! Go Dubs!
I just dont get the trade angle. This system requires good decision making skills in under 0.5 sec (Poole withstanding), lots of motion, passing, screening, and cutting. There is no big that is going to be available for what we can offer while providing those things AND play better than Looney or Draymond at the 4 or 5. So why would you give up assets for what amounts to a bench big that most likely will take the remainder of the season to learn the system? The names I’ve seen all get paid to much to be a bench big.
I hope we keep him he’s going to be a very good player.
Doesn’t really strike me as an honest answer. He’s basically saying nothing, this is just generic coach-speak.
Imagine not playing Wiseman, messing with his growth as a player, causing hard feelings and possibly leading to being traded away…to play JaMychal Green instead.
Kerr can say whatever PR speak he wants. That’s a bad coaching decision and he won’t get enough flack or it.
The 3-7 start to the season (with a 0-5 road trip) altered the direction of the team completely. Maybe Kerr was more willing to hang in there with Wiseman if the road trip went differently (something like 3-2) but alas here we are. Kerr opening up minutes to the 2-way players afterwards.
Really only Joku was able to snap out of the bad start to the season for the bench and now looks like a permanent fixture in the rotation.
He status: gone