It’s here, folks.
Discuss your trade day thoughts in this space. All new discussions will be moved to this thread.
Please be cool to each other no matter how things shake down.
**Trade deadline: Feb 9th at 3pm**
Trades so far:
* [The Suns are sending Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder, four first-round picks, a 2028 pick swap for Durant and TJ Warren, sources tell ESPN. Durant wanted move and new owner Mat Ishbia pushed to get deal done tonight.](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1623564676066934785?s=20)
* [Nets gets unprotected picks in 2023, 2025, 2027 and 2029, source tells ESPN.](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1623567057324281861?s=20)
* [The Toronto Raptors are acquiring San Antonio Spurs center Jakob Poeltl for Khem Birch, a protected 2024 first-round draft pick and two future second-round picks, sources tell ESPN.](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1623560288170815494?s=20)
by nanobot001
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BENCH MOB NO LONGER ON THE BENCH ❤️❤️❤️
I like this Jak trade for us. Our roster might look weird now, but that’s where the fun begins…3pm can’t come sooner
What we know
– FO has no intention of rebuilding, we are looking for a retool
– If we are able to avoid the luxury tax and resign Jak, this is a very very good deal as we essentially get rid of Khem’s bad contract and a protected 1st for him
What has yet to be figured out
– FVV GTJ and Jak all are UFA’s next summer, and we don’t have the cap space to sign all 3. Which likely means that Fred is gone, but I could be wrong
– OG stance probably remains the same, though IMO he gets traded as well because the fit is clunky between OG/Siakam/Scottie, as all 3 like to operate in the post and OG is probably the worst one in that area of his game
Important notice (that nobody is talking about)
– Getting a starting level C is probably more important than keeping our G’s, because of the 2023 draft class. The class is filled with guards, but outside of Wemby, there really isn’t a center in the top 20 of the draft. Since we are projected to finish around the 5-9 spot in the draft, it would be wise to develop a young guard than to try and agressively trade for a center in the summer, or take a huge risk in landing that 1st overall pick
Thinking on it for a bit, an O.G./Warriors trade could be on the table if they’re desperate?
O.G. for Kuminga, Moody and Donte or Wiseman? Dunno about a draft pick but at least you got rookie scale dudes.
Hypothetical question. How many of those First round picks would you want to take on Simmon’s contract?
What does it mean when they say ‘protected’ and ‘unprotected’ draft pick?
With KD and Kyrie in the West Now, and Jaylen Brown having a broken face, all 3 of Harden, Butler, and Siakam gotta be all stars now?
Fuck it, let’s sign broadie off waivers. Killing Fred’s knees for the play-in spot ain’t fair.
Jake Fischer was spitting facts in his live call thing btw that he had during the raptors game, yall gotta stop hating on this man, he even confirmed like an hour or two before the trade happened that the trade would not include Gary and it would most be a salary filler and a pick
If we are still near the play-in next year, questions need to be asked about why we have been trading firsts for win now players as opposed to investing in Scottie’s timeline.
I think having a top pick this year is out of the picture too. At least I hope we end up with some young prospects for depth out of all these. Otherwise our future looks kinda bleak.
How am I supposed to sleep
Looking over the standings and honestly, I don’t think blowing it up would be the best course of action. The West looks MUCH more scary than the East for the next season or two (this league is crazy though so that could completely change in one off season).
Nuggets are legit, Grizzlies really scary if Ja snaps out of this goofy phase and keeps developing, Mavs scary if Kyrie stays, Suns are pretty much a super team with KD, Clippers are a legit threat if Kawhi goes into the playoffs healthy, Pelicans looked unbeatable earlier in the year before the Zion injury, Warriors just won it all, Lakers are decent with this trade (they won’t win though lol screw the Lakers).
The East has some great teams but is definitely wide open for the foreseeable future, especially with the Nets out of the picture now. Boston is arguably the best team in the league and the Bucks will always be title contenders with Giannis. Philly is solid but proves time and time again they don’t have what it takes for a finals run. Outside of these guys, the East is lacking that star power. If the Raptors can keep building and Scottie becomes that superstar he has the potential to be, I could see them having success in the East.
Not entirely convinced this core has what it takes to compete for a title. However, if the team shows signs of promise you can trade for a true superstar down the road. With this league they’re always moving around so it’s not like you’re the Leafs and are stuck with pretty much the same roster every year.
Trade Fred and/or GTJ tomorrow for solid assets and improve this team for the next couple of seasons. The tank/lottery was always more of a dream, this roster can’t compete with some of the dumpster fires teams are fielding right now. Even if you traded Fred, GTJ and OG at the deadline and tanked hard, we’d still be looking at pick 6-10 or something which is great but not franchise altering. With this direction we probably still pick top 10 and get a great player from this stacked draft.
This is my take right now but I could definitely see a scenario where we look back in a few years and wish we’d nuked this whole roster.
Im happy jak is back cant wait to see the open gym episode
I still dont get how the lakers traded a top 4 pick for 3 rotarional players. If we could do that we could jump back into competing if thats what the front office want
The lack of a centre was a big issue don’t get me wrong, but if there isn’t a deal in the works to try and get some shooting, this doesn’t make much sense to me as a rebuild or a re tool
Clippers want the championship Raptors team. Raptors want the Demar-Kyle team
Do we sell now? I’m not so sure. The east has gotten weak.
no way Suns got KD damn lol. Now im gonna be anxious all day to see who raptors move…no way we will go into FA with 3 expirings contracts right?
u/nanobot001 also add the LA, Utah, and Minnesota trade to the list
One thing I’ve realized with the Poeltl trade is it probably cost the 2 seconds just for San Antonio to take Birch since he’s guaranteed next year lol.
Please Masai, trade Fred today. I don’t want to pay him 30mil/year. I want a PG on the Scotty timeline. Bones Hyland or one of the Magics young guards. Keep OG as the bridge between Yak&Skillz and the young guys.
Poeltl trade is fantastic. Knew Masai and Bobby wouldn’t trade Gary and 2 First
Since we bought Jakob, we probably keep Fred and trade OG. I really can’t see Masai trading away our PG this year, and Fred and Pascal are bros. Clearly they’re catering to Pascal with Jakob trade, brother being in the org, etc.
OG is probably going to Memphis or NOLA, or possibly golden state.
So we aren’t gonna get anything done today except Poeltl is what I’m guessing
Poeltl for **three** picks is a fleece and how nephews don’t understand this I will never understand 🤦♂️
Just wondering if we can keep this civil today boys and don’t just downvote people because you disagree with them unless its really dumb 😂
What’s the market at this point. 3 of the major buyers (Lakers, Nets, Suns) for OG and FVV are now off the table.
Who’s left as buyers? Pelicans?