Zach Lowe and Howard Beck discuss the debacle in Minnesota and Rudy Gobert’s suspension, then reveal some of their awards choices and preview Lakers-Wolves, Pelicans-Thunder and Heat-Hawks. Tim MacMahon also joins to discuss the fallout of the Mavericks’ late-season tank and the futures of Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving.
0:00 Welcome to The Lowe Post Podcast
0:45 Zach is stunned by Rudy Gobert punching teammate Kyle Anderson
7:13 Should the Wolves regret trading for Gobert?
20:00 How Gobert’s suspension impacts Lakers vs. Timberwolves
34:16 Zach & Howard’s NBA awards picks
48:00 Why Zach switched his Rookie of the Year vote
57:38 Should the Pelicans consider trading Zion?
1:00:42 Heat vs. Hawks Preview
1:04:28 The Mavericks’ season ends in dramatic fashion
1:11:42 The NBA to investigate the Mavericks for sitting players vs. Bulls
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KD just had the first 55-40-90 NBA season ever but played 47 total games it will be interesting to see
if/how he makes All NBA
I don't think anybody would regret adding Rudy to their lineup from a defensive stance, but they wish they had't given up so much for a defensive player regardless of whom it was especiall around his age. At least his lack of scoring is of his doing not because he can't or is afraid to go to the line. But enough of that, y'all on the outside looking in are so quick judge something you've never went through, or no nothing of. Some of us don't take that calling us out of our name 💩. Especially being called a B. Male & female. Guys have gotten killed for calling another guy a B. Like there's something else a guy can't say to, ask, insinuate, or 𝐓𝐄𝐋𝐋 another guy. At the end of the they all are grown men & expect to be treated as such. You don't talk down teammates & call it a pep talk. That's another form of bullying, verbally bullying. But most if you approved of Mike's punching & verbally abusing teammates, so why ask you anyway. I don't blame Rudy I salute Rudy for realizing they were publicly being broadcasted on live Tv & just open fisted his chest instead of balled fisted punching him in the face. Not mad about the suspension, but I do think if he was suspended, then they should have suspended Taurean Prince as well. You gonna make a point, then make a point. Taurean tried to instigate it further by pushing Rudy. That could have made it a lir worse if the wrong mind were involved. I also wouldn't have had a problem if they hadn't suspended him. But Draymond is the only player to get away with that type of 💩 & a lot more & actually be justified for ir.
Worst trade ever
The only explanation for the gobert trade is they owed something to danny ainge
That's a dumb move on twolves part why suspend their starting center it was no need to do that
With Durant being accident prone they have a chance
Twolves are toast even with guber
FC Porto hat gets upvote
They exchanged a promising cheap rookie defensive center and a bunch of assets for an old expensive defensive center that is not playing better than the promising cheap rookie defensive center
Worst trade I have ever seen
He got paid. It's the organizations problem.
I hope the T-Wolves BEAT THE SOCKS OFF THE LAKERS…😮😮😮
I hope you get your ballot taken away. Immediately.
Mavs have made blunder after blunder taking big swings. Any normal team would have been patient and drafted around Luka.
Rudy Gobert is now forever in my mind, the Maginot Line. Overpriced (5 picks, 5 players, $205 million contract) French flagged, immobile last line of defense that opponents just avoid (pick and roll, pull out to bomb 3s) built to “fight the last war” (7’, strong as an ox, would have been a star in 1980s and 90s).
Can someone make a mt. Rushmore of bad trades
Trade him to Dallas
Should the Timberwolves regret trading for Rudy Gobert? That cant be a real question
Ant guards Lebron n let Kat guard Davis let the chips fall where they may
As much as you want to say there was no voter fatigue, there was because Jokic had a better season, he is more valuable for his team, he is the best player in the best team based on starting five, as a defender he is good, Denver is top 5 defense with him on the court, and they were best clutch defense in the league because in the 4th Jokic can step up and not worry about getting into foul trouble because every team in the league wants to put him into foul trouble. Higher seeding, more games played, leading advanced statistics, and had worse team around him. He had historic season with historic efficiency, and won both teams with MVP candidates at the end.
YES
How do you trade that much for a defensive player who can't score a bucket
That cap suits you perfectly, Zack !! FCP 💙
Great pod as per usual as well!
How the TWolves-Jazz Gobert trade talks went:
Conley: "We're interested Gobert, what is it going to take to get him?"
Ainge: "Well, I think it might take 2 to 3 picks and some of of your young players."
Conley: " We'll give you all our young players and 4 picks. I know how the famous Ainge negotiation tactics work. This is a jedi mind trick. I'll offer you more than you want."
Ainge: " Um, Tim, that's not how… deal! No take backsies!"
Conley: " I did it I… wait a minute…"
The majority of fans and just about ever GM knew this was a terrible trade by the T-Wolves as soon as it was made. The NBA needs to have investigation into why any team would pay this much for a player who clearly everyone could see was not worth the money he was being paid and is a poor play off performer and a cancer in the locker room. The GM and ownership need to enter the NBA drug rehabilitation program or something.
They didn’t learn from the time Ainge got Garnett from them apparently.
The real regret in Minnesota is giving Connolly part ownership stake in the team out of desperation
Yeah, you are judging this trade on the basis of only one season with Kat out 52 games… I hope that the wolves management will go on not listening to you and give time to this team. This was a roller-coaster season and they end 2 wins away from 5th position in the West…
Oh why did you do that Rudy 😮now you giving these guys nonsense to talk about
Isn’t this the most successful they have been in a long time
giving up just that No. 22 pick for Gobert might have been enough to make this a bad trade for Minnesota
So glad the Knicks didn't allow Danny Ainge to fleece them as well smh a sucker is born everyday…..btw Utah are in the playoffs had they made that trade with NY
I don’t like that this guy got a vote, regular season awards not legacy awards
traded picks for an unplayable big 💀
I think Golden State did Minnesota worse than Utah did! Golden State got Wiggins & Kuminga out of the deal, which led to a championship 🏆
The obvious punishment for the Mavs is to require the Organization to move down in the draft to one place after the lottery so that they effectively received no benefit from the tanking. Also a substantial fine.
It's all about ego. Mark Cuban wants everybody to know. "we weren't trying, we could have won if we wanted to" That's why they admit tanking. Pride can be an ugly thing.
Timberwolves FO needs to regret nothing. T-Wolves made moves in the off-season and only time sorts that out. Better they do than being damned for not doing.
The Rudy incident is not a big thing, one suspension, whoop di doo! The French giant got angry, omg. Who doesn't get angry. This was not the only incident throughout the league that day. Should I bring up the Clippers! Look the playin adds more pressure to the playoffs and that's good. Some teams will crack under pressure, and that is the nature of sports. It becomes a teaching moment for the Coach but none of it reflects on FO.
Kyle Anderson is not innocent here, and the FO needs to address that just as much. If Rudy cracked, it just means other players can crack too! Oh wait, McDaniels cracked under pressure too. FO needs to have internal sessions with the coaching staff and players about how to not succumb to the pressure. They are only human!
He should be a national treasure. A Frenchman willing to fight.
I new we gave up too much immediately but thought it could work…
Yes. They traded for him like he was Giannis.
Z-Lowe with the Porto cap
Sign and Trade Lamelo for Zion!
If the trades were Connelly's idea and not the owners trying to make a splash, he should be fired the day after end of the season which will probably be this week.
It just blows my mind that an average NBA fan couldve done a better trade than the clowns they have at the Twolves front office. Tell the owner to fire all of em and hire us LOL
"If you want to achieve excellence, you can get there today. As of this second, quit doing less-than-excellent work." -Thomas J. Watson
Pretty funny how all season everyone says the Gobert trade is the worst trade ever, meanwhile they finish as a top 10 defense. But everyone already forgot about the Wiggins and Kuminga for DLo trade, which looks by far worse, since everyone now says the Warriors have no chance to repeat unless Wiggins is back. And if you think about if the DLo trade never happened, the arsenal of wings the Wolves could have right now with Ant, McDaniels, Wiggins, Kuminga, Prince, Anderson. And the Warriors wouldn't win the championship last year without Wiggins either. Thats the trade that extended the Warriors dynasty and turned the Wolves from the next contender in the West to mediocre again.
Def used obviated wrong, but it's ok
That's a lovely cap, Zach!!!