Discussing the Timberwolves final game of the season including Rudy Gobert’s punch on Kyle Anderson and Jaden McDaniels ending his season
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As a raptors fan, I'd have to agree, we need to start it over
Shaedon sharpe + thybulle and a 1 st for siakam ? Dame , simons , grant , siakam and nurkic would be a great lineup
They really blew that lead 😂
Easiest piece to trade would be siakam as an all star wing that can guard all 5 spots. Van vleet is a scoring pg and those are not as scarce anymore, so you’ll have to trade him for a lot less or attach a pick to move him for a more compatible guard.
Nothing in life is perfect one year and a complete disaster another year. You're never as good as you think and you are never as bad as you think.
Agreed. Siakam has to go. He's very inconsistent as a lead player in the clutch.
Siakam for picks and young players? Please. You need something for something. Not nothing and prayer. Trade for KAT or some other big that moves the needle.
How was Siakam streaky ? He put up 25/8/6 if not for him they be sitting with the Rockets
They can be a top 3 team in the east if they trade for Dame I think they have the assets or they’ve can bring in Tyus Jones and Myles Turner I also see Udoka being their new HC
Siakam 100% has more value than Gobert
agree
Pascal isn’t worth 3 firsts. At all.
Facts, there ain’t no way the raptors should be in this position they’re roster is too solid
I do think they should build around OG and Boucher with Trent. Trade everyone else and start new
I'd love a Pascal for SGA but that wont happen. Maybe Giddey Dort and 2frps. Fred needs to go… get a second round pick or 2 then select Podziemski and Tubelis.
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Somehow telling ya'll leaf fans casuals "I told you so" isn't satisfying enough 😢. I've been saying for 3 years now pascal siakam is not a #1 option for a team that wants to contend, he doesn't have "it" he's a 1st half player, fades in 2nd half. I really hope leaf fans casuals finally realize pascal can't lead raptors past 2nd rd. Choking those ft's were so predictable, can see the nerves got to him and was thinking too much (not the traits of a superstar). Raptors players have so much value in trade market, masai needs to blow it up. He needed to do it in the trade deadline when every team in the league was asking.
"FVV had an All Star season"
ON WHAT PLANET?!?!?
I'd rather have NO "injury replacements" than have a bunch of mid guys claim "All Star"!!
Garland and Allen were "All Stars" last season… yet they add DMitch and only get ONE spot??
FVV has NEVER been "top 24/top 6 at his position".. and then people expect way to much of them!!
He's a cute lil 2nd unit point guard – dime a dozen!!
still a little early for decisions until the raps know who if any are going to exercise their player option. fvv and gtj are not going to get the payday they want with their play last season and may want to bring up their stock for free agency. if they opt in for another year it is time for a full blown rebuild and trade pascal, fvv, and gtj. besides i don't think i can handle another year of all the missed bunnies again.
Not enough focus on how weak Raptors bench performed this year as well as the loss of Otto Porter and Ron Harper. Also, proven again and again that Malachi can’t step in for FVV. Add Siakam’s injury and Scottie’s/Precious/GTJ regression, you end up with the play-in.
I hope they blow it up and trade almost everyone
Dude you are so far off in this video on how expiring deals for stars work. No one WANTS the scenario to be that they are having to trade for a star on a one year deal. Desperate teams trade for that who think they are one guy away from winning it all and being able to entice the guy to stay bc of a title., and even in those scenarios they still pay low. This video was ok until you totally missed and made up how the biggest part of all of this works.
Comparing the return for stars on 3-5 year deals, disgruntled stars at that lol, to a top 25 guy on a one year deal is so off base and just asinine, not to mention the Rudy trade is gone as far as being a market mover. The market was correctly reset with KD, and it taking that long for him to finally be traded was bc the nets had to accept that the Rudy mistake did not set a new market. Trading for Rudy is nowhere near trading for KD, they would never be bunched in the same category. KDs got the value of a KD level star with 3 years left and his trade set the value as “the return for possibly the best player in the world with multiple guaranteed years left on his deal.” You don’t group in a now non all nba player in the 20ish range who can walk after a year in the same market value as the KD category lol.
None of the small market rebuilding teams will want anything to do with that. One year of him does nothing for them overall, it wastes their assets, and is a massive risk to walk with very low odds he stays in his first chance to choose where he wants to go on top of that. He’s not good enough to put Portland over the top anyway much less good enough to be worth the one year risk so he would have to be good enough to put them over the top this season (none of that is to say he is not awesome, I think he is a great player, but he is not a top 7 level player which is what would be needed here). They’d never trade sharpe in a deal for him anyway, and one yr is too risky for their pick this summer to be in that. Even on a team that could be duped to risking the one year rental, their top few assets are immediately off the board.
If he won all nba and got his extension, even tho the dollar amount would knock some value off the top, it would add wayyyyy more trade value with him being locked in for 5 total years…. then we would be talking about 3 first with protections on some and a swap plus good salary (not a young star plus all the picks tho like raptors fans think they should just get plus a big picks package lol). Good salary as in solid nba players even on expiring deals, that Can be traded throughout the season for other protected firsts, multiple seconds, used in packages as good salary fora player theyre after etc…. It’s not going to be KD return, if anything teams have finally gotten smarter so that’s just additional, but unnecessary, support as to why teams will properly asses the player sin their tiers for their return, down from peak mvp level superstar with 3 years locked in