Here’s a long analysis of what it might take to trade for a second lottery pick.

So, as a lot of us expected, [a recent report](https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1661418280123260928?s=20) says that the Spurs have interest in making a rather unusual move by their standards to pick up a second first-rounder in the draft next month, presumably to acquire a PG that they hope can start next to Victor Wembanyama for the next decade-plus. It’s an idea that had been gaining traction with fans even before the real whispers started because of how much sense it seemed to make – this is seen as a relatively deep draft, with a lot of intriguing options at a position of need that are currently being mocked in the mid-to-late lottery. I’m sure most people have seen plenty of discussion about it on this sub over the past few days, and in every thread, people are asking the smart first question: “Okay, but what would it take?”

There’s a lot of things that factor into that answer, and I’m just some internet dork who watches and reads about and talks about and thinks about basketball too much so I obviously have no idea what kind of discussions GMs are actually having on that front. But I thought it would at least help to look at what the positions we’d presumably be targeting have brought back in trade in the past decade, and then try to approximate value with the Spurs’ assets. Firstly, though…

**Why would San Antonio do this?**

There’s two ways to answer that question, and the first is to look at it from the perspective of what the Spurs *don’t* have: a long-term starting Point Guard. I like Tre Jones a lot – he’s everything we could’ve hoped for as a second-round pick and then some – but he’s not a player that’s going to feasibly run the offense for a contending team. He’d make a fantastic backup, and the Spurs are obviously hoping that Sochan and Victor and to a lesser extent Branham evolve into above-average playmakers, especially as the organization makes strides to get closer to their positionless basketball philosophy. But I don’t think any of that is going to supersede a desire to bring a more traditional lead guard into the fold, especially considering what the team *does* have.

And what San Antonio has right now is a lot of picks. Maybe not as many as OKC or Utah, but a lot nonetheless. Six first-rounders that aren’t our own, to be exact, plus the swap rights to Atlanta’s 2026 first-rounder and over twenty second-rounders. Simply put, I can guarantee you that the team won’t be making all of those picks, because it’s not smart roster building to be quite so overloaded with very young players when the idea is to start being competitive again. Having a lot of young talent with promise is a good problem to have until you hit the point of having so many mouths to feed that it starts stunting their development, and we’re already looking at a potential slight roster crunch this year. As an example, the Pacers, who are arguably behind us in terms of the rebuilding process now since we won the Wemby sweepstakes, have 5 picks in this year’s draft, 3 of them first-rounders, and Kevin Pritchard has [already come out and said they’re not making all of them.](https://www.si.com/nba/pacers/roster/indiana-pacers-president-kevin-pritchard-doesnt-want-to-use-all-five-of-the-pacers-2023-nba-draft-picks) The Spurs, by comparison, could potentially have FIVE first-rounders in 2025 depending on league standings over the next couple years. Eventually, some of these picks will be used as a package to get one better pick or a star player. And there’s a good argument that, if it’s going to be the former, now is the time, because again, this is a strong draft.

**So what specific assets do we have?**

I’ll go ahead and rank them in descending order by my perception of their value, excluding Wemby because he’s obviously the most untouchable of untouchables.

* Sochan and Vassell: Very clearly big parts of this team moving forward and likely starters when our theoretical championship window opens
* Atlanta 2027 unprotected FRP: The Hawks are such a dumpster fire right now in some ways that this could easily end up being a Top 5 pick – notably, the last year of Trae’s current contract is 2026-27
* Keldon Johnson: Anyone else tired of talking about him? I’ll have a more in-depth look at why trading him *might* make sense later in this post, but he’s still just 23 years old with room to grow and even with his deficiencies, he’s got a lot of attractive qualities even if his long-term ceiling might be “good sixth man.”
* Atlanta 2025 unprotected FRP
* Atlanta 2026 pick swap: There’s an argument that this should be above the 2025 unprotected pick because the 2025 class is looking kinda rough and 2026 includes Cameron Boozer and Cooper Flagg, but ultimately having an extra pick in an individual future draft is, I think, more valuable than a swap because it allows for a move-up package
* Toronto 2024 FRP protected 1-6: Masai Ujiri and the Raptors are a little hard to read right now, even more than usual, but I think there’s a good chance this could convey next year and still be in the top 10 somewhere.
* Zach Collins: A good starting center on a bad team or a very good backup center on a better team. He’s got the Pop endorsement and trading him would leave our C rotation very light unless we’ve got something else cooking (not a good thing with Victor coming in), but I wouldn’t want him to be the sticking point that holds up a potential good deal.
*Malaki Branham: I might be overrating him a bit here because I’m personally very high on Branham, but I think it’s close enough. He’s shown very promising flashes at the NBA level already, and if he can get more consistent from 3 it’ll be very hard to stop him from scoring. Becoming even a passable defender on top of it would give him 6MOTY-level upside.
* Chicago 2025 FRP protected 1-10: I think Chicago’s gonna be forced to blow it up soon. Multiple teams below them in the standings last year should be markedly improved already this season and they might even lose Vooch. So this may not convey for a while, if at all.
* Boston 2028 pick swap, protected for 1st overall: This is probably about even with the Chicago pick, really. [Things can change quick in the NBA](https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/vnwcqj/for_no_reason_in_particular_a_look_at_league/) but I don’t expect Boston to be bad for a while, and again, it’s just a swap.
* Charlotte 2024 pick, lottery protected: This will almost definitely not convey next year. Maaaaybe in 2025, but I’m really starting to doubt LaMelo’s ability to stay on the floor. And a pick outside of the lottery in a bad draft class won’t be worth all that much.
* Blake Wesley: I’ve never been a Wesley believer and he didn’t show anything last year to convince me I might be wrong, but maybe some team likes his upside enough that he could work as a sweetener.
* Doug McDermott: A knockdown perimeter movement shooter who isn’t worth much on his own, but could be attractive as a veteran piece for a team that can’t otherwise hit 3s.
* All of our 20+ SRPs

We also, again, have all of our own FRPs, but there’s too many unknowns across the next couple years for me to try and predict their value. Suffice it to say that I wouldn’t trade next year’s under any circumstances, would only let go of 2025’s if it was protected for the lottery, and would probably be willing to have talks about any of them in or after 2026.

**Potential Trade Analysis**

Before anything else, I want to be clear that I’m not advocating for all or even most of these trades. I’m simply doing my best to demonstrate what we might have to give up based on history.

And again, there are a lot of mitigating factors to these other recent trades. Draft class strength, roster makeup, financial situation, etc. – it’s impossible to ever get 1-to-1 comparisons for something like this. But I think they work pretty well as rough examples.

Oh, and [here’s an aggregation of the current “professional” mock drafts out there](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bgWo3lvqD2MGZtMsNr3jyXRY1uDyjy_6PVUlsNAyq1k/edit#gid=0) in case anyone wants an idea of what prospects we’d be talking about in each position.

One last thing: When I’m talking about trades that have been made for these picks historically, I’m only including ones that were made between the lottery and draft day or on draft night specifically, since obviously the slots for future picks in other trades wouldn’t have been known at the time of the deal.

**Pick #5 (Detroit)**

* *2018: DAL trades w/lightly-protected 2019 1st for pick 3 (the now-famous Luka/Trae trade)*

PROPOSAL: [This.](https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/13ql3rx/the_athletic_thoughts/)

We don’t have a great comparison point to open with here, but this feels about right to me. No one, media or fans, can agree on Keldon’s trade value, and there’s some teams I think he very much would not fit on, but I think it makes a lot of sense on Detroit’s end for the reasons Edwards laid out – he opens up a ton of options for the Pistons to experiment with assuming that they actually get a full year of Cade this season and, in the best-case scenario, can become a very good sixth man for them long-term. They really need a young wing, and after the gut punch of falling to #5 where they’re in the unenviable position of having to decide between a bunch of low-floor, high-ceiling guys, they might be tempted to take out the guesswork and go with someone who’s already shown what he can do for a couple years. I’ll return to this comparison later, but if Detroit takes Cam Whitmore in this spot, for example, and he becomes what Keldon is now, I think they’d call it a successful pick.

MY EVALUATION: Spurs say no. I think Keldon has more value to SAS than anyone they could be targeting in this spot unless Amen Thompson is still there and the FO is supremely confident in him becoming a decent off-ball player.

**Pick #6 (Orlando)**

* *2013: NOP trades to PHI with protected 2014 first for Jrue Holiday and pick 42*

PROPOSAL: SAS trades Devin Vassell, CHI 1st and pick 33 for picks 6 and 36

I’ve seen rumors that ORL might want to package this and their #11 pick to move up, but I don’t know where that comes from. Can’t see Charlotte taking a deal like that, Portland and allegedly Houston want immediate help instead of two more rookies, and the #5 from Detroit wouldn’t really be worth it from the Magic’s standpoint. Maybe they can send #6 and #11 plus Suggs to the Rockets? Either way, the Magic are another of those teams I was talking about earlier that already has a lot of young players that they want to get touches, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they move one of their two picks for something else.

Holiday was coming off an all-star season, and though Vassell is obviously not an all-star (at least not yet), I do think he’s a pretty decent approximation of 2013 Jrue Holiday. Same age, and the best players on their respective teams. Good defense, good outside shot and still some room to grow as a self-creator. I think he was probably looking at some MIP votes last year if he hadn’t gotten hurt.

MY EVALUATION: Spurs say no, obviously. They’re not trading Devin. I think they could theoretically get this slot just by giving up a big package of picks, but at that point the evaluation becomes too difficult to really be worth it for this exercise IMO.

**Pick #7 (Indiana)**

* *2017: MIN trades pick 7 with Kris Dunn and LaVine to CHI for Jimmy Butler and pick 16*

Obviously there’s no real similar deal to be found here – if we had a Jimmy Butler we’d be in a wildly different situation in the first place. I could try to put together a big picks package, but IND is guaranteed a very promising prospect at this spot and, in my opinion, they have too many holes in their team right now (or at least a very large defense-shaped hole) to move it for futures when they’re already looking at more picks than they want to make.

MY EVAULATION: They’d ask for Vassell and they won’t get him; this pick won’t be ours. Moving on.

**Pick #8 (Washington)**

* *2016: SAC trades to PHX for picks 13 and 28, a future 2, and rights to Bogdan Bogdanovic*

PROPOSAL: SAS trades Malaki Branham, Tre Jones, TOR 1st, CHA 1st for pick 8 and Delon Wright

Here’s where things start getting a little interesting, because this is the first slot where I can see one of the presumptive primary targets for the Spurs enter the mix in Anthony Black. Indiana might give him a look if they really value his defense and versatility, but I think Walker and Hendricks are more likely directions. So that brings us to Washington. That organization makes my head hurt but I have a hard time seeing a universe where they don’t make this pick. Either they keep smashing their head against the wall of irrelevance or they finally decide to tear it down, and either way it doesn’t make much sense for this pick to find its way to us.

But if the Wizards were to trade this pick, I imagine it’d be because they’re getting a young and high-upside prospect who’s already shown legit NBA flashes in Branham, which they’re sorely lacking and could reasonably be thought of as equivalent to or probably even a little bit better than Bogdanovic in 2016. This also gets them an uber-reliable young backup PG that can be had for a few cheap years (something you’d be pretty happy to get with a #28 pick) and the Spurs take back Wright for salary purposes and to have a veteran PG option of their own, though it’s entirely possible WAS values Wright more highly anyway for defensive purposes.

MY EVALUATION: Both teams say no, although if we put Wesley in there instead of Branham I think things get interesting from the Spurs’ point of view. You can never predict the Wizards, but I think Michael Winger would have to be given an offer they can’t refuse to tempt them not to just stay here and pick Black or Hendricks or Whitmore or whoever else has fallen to them. Reportedly, he has the blessing to finally rebuild if he so chooses, and it’s hard to see them not starting the process off here. Not for nothing, but Winger used to work under Presti.

I do wonder what would happen if the Spurs offered Keldon for this pick straight-up, though. If Kuzma leaves, the Washington wing situation suddenly looks completely ghastly. Returning to the “Whitmore-Johnson test,” if the Wizards picked Cam up here and he turned into Keldon, I think they’d be quite pleased. Not “all-time draft victory” pleased, but a huge win for a team that’s mangled their draft a couple times recently.

**Pick #9 (Utah)**

* *2013: MIN trades to UTA for picks 14 and 21*

PROPOSAL: SAS trades CHA 1st and CHI 1st for pick 9

Pretty simple here. If a team thinks that Chicago pick will convey, late lottery seems like a reasonable place to expect it to land. If the Charlotte pick conveys, it’ll be in that 15-20 range.

MY EVALUATION: Utah says no because there’s a good chance those picks don’t convey, because picks in future drafts are always treated as less valuable than those in the same draft, and because Ainge doesn’t make trades when he’s not fleecing the other team for all their worth. Also, Utah doesn’t really need more future picks either.

You know what? That was boring. How about another option?

PROPOSAL: SAS trades Keldon for pick 9

The Ainge factor remains, but in a vacuum I do think this is pretty fair value straight up. Let’s talk about the SAS rotation for a minute assuming they do indeed make SOME trade for a PG prospect. Wemby and Vassell are starting, no question. Collins got the Pop endorsement at the end of last season, so he’s in there too. That leaves four players fighting for two starting spots: Keldon, Sochan, Tre Jones, and the newly drafted PG. Sochan started 53 of the 56 games he played last year, and with the excellent upside he has, I have a hard time imagining he’s not getting the nod at the 3; even if he’s not, he’ll be getting tons of minutes. I and others have supported the Point Sochan experiment, but if we’re bringing in a real PG, I doubt we’ll see a whole lot more of that and they certainly won’t start a Sochan/Vassell/Keldon/Wemby/Collins lineup. So Keldon’s probably sliding to the sixth man role. And that’s fine – if he has a role on this team when they’re ready to contend again, it’ll be that one – but trading a sixth man for the right to select the guy you theoretically think can be Victor’s running mate for a decade, especially when there’s plenty of other guys off the bench that you want to keep giving minutes to, is more than reasonable all things considered.

As far as UTA goes, they need a PG prospect all on their own but I think they can get Kobe Bufkin with their #16 pick and I kinda love the fit there for him. If you’re the Jazz, would you rather have Keldon and Bufkin or, say, Wallace and Leonard Miller? I don’t know the answer to that, but I think there’s at least a chance they’d prefer the latter, as even with a pretty lean roster I don’t know how badly they want to find playing time for three first rounders this year. Keldon and Markkanen don’t even step on each other’s toes in the UTA system, and though they’ll definitely continue the tank this year to avoid losing their 2024 pick, Keldon could easily still be around on a very team-friendly deal by the time they’re ready to start pushing for the playoffs again.

MY EVALUATION: Utah says no strictly because Ainge gonna Ainge. I’m not sure I’d do it if I was the Spurs, either, because injuries will happen and Victor might get more DNPs for load management this year than any of us want to see. But it’s a conversation worth having and I can’t say I’d be falling to my knees in an HEB if it happened on draft night.

**Pick #10 (Dallas)**

* *2018: PHI trades to PHX for pick 16 and a Miami first in 2021*
* *2017: SAC trades to POR for picks 15 and 20*
* 2014: PHI trades to ORL for pick 12, 2015 second, and 2017 first*

Strap in, this is a fun one.

PROPOSAL: [This.](https://i.imgur.com/5GGuO76.png)

This is the pick in the lottery that I think is most likely to move, outside of maaaybe #3. That’s kind of awkward, because Dallas wants (needs) talent to help them win now and we don’t have much of that. Specifically, they need defense and a real starting center – if they can get both of those in one guy, so much the better. Keldon doesn’t move the needle for them IMO and we’re obviously not gonna give up Vassell at this slot. The OTHER thing Dallas needs, though, is something we do have in spades: cap room. Our old friend Davis Bertans has one of the worst contracts in the league for next season – $17m for a guy whose defense deficiencies make him unplayable – and while he only has $5m guaranteed in 2024, I think Dallas needs help right now to keep from running a real risk of fracturing their relationship with their best player since Dirk.

I think it’s POSSIBLE Dallas just trades this pick with Bertans and, say, McGee for, the TOR 1st + CHA 1st + a bucket of SRPs or something, then tries their luck in free agency (to go for Jakob or Brook etc.) before using their new draft capital to seek another trade if need be, but I think it’s more likely that we’d be looking at a full-on three-teamer here. There’s a lot of options there depending on which teams are panicking or not, and most of them I don’t find overly likely. Does Boston overreact and give up Robert Williams in a psychotic episode? Does Atlanta move Capela? Eh. Maybe, I guess, but I doubt it. How about Cleveland, though?

This is a pretty skeletal framework of what a deal could look like so don’t take it as absolute gospel. Three-team trades are often complicated enough that there could easily be a few more moving pieces were such a trade to happen.

MY EVALUATION: This could be a winner. I don’t think CLE *has* to trade Allen yet, but if they’re not exploring the option and asking themselves some tough questions about whether the pairing with Mobley is the real long-term answer after what happened against the Knicks, they’re not doing their job. THJ shot almost the same percentage on 3s as Caris Levert did last year on over three more attempts per game, and his defense, while not amazing by any means, is better than it gets credit for. Getting rid of Rubio also gives them a little extra salary to play with in free agency – it’s not much, and it’s not a great class, but I think there’s enough there for Cleveland to find a way to make themselves a better playoff team than they were last year. This also lets them recoup some draft capital that is basically nonexistent for them right now after the Mitchell trade.

On the Spurs side, even if Rubio is basically washed, he’s an incredibly smart and experienced PG who could do a lot to mentor the young guy that we’d be bringing in at the position, and if he needs to come in for a few minutes here and there to hold down the fort, that’s fine too – we’re not trying to be good yet. I’d be surprised if we don’t bring in a vet guard in some fashion this offseason regardless. Plus, we have to get to the salary floor before the season starts anyway; why not kill three birds with one stone on this trade?

Cleveland *probably* still says no. I don’t know if they’re quite ready to pull the plug on Allen. But I don’t think it’s that far off.

**Pick #11 (Orlando)**

* *2022: NYK trades to OKC for 3 protected first-rounders (DET (protected), WAS (protected), DEN, all 2023)*
* *2018: CHA trades to LAC for pick 12 and two 2s*
* *2016: ORL trades with Oladipo and Ilyasova to OKC in return for Ibaka*

PROPOSAL: SAS trades TOR 1st, CHI 1st, and Doug McDermott for pick 11

Last year’s trade is the easiest comparison to make on this list. Not perfect, still, but with the added context of what other trades in this range have brought back, I think it still works. The DET and WAS picks were fairly heavily protected (top 18 and lottery, respectively) and I don’t think it surprised anyone that the Nuggets pick is as late as it is, so despite it being three first rounders the overall value OKC traded wasn’t huge. Even with the Knicks having financial incentive to move off the pick, the package was pretty well in line with historical trades in this range. That said, I think people are viewing the talent around this slot higher than 2022’s at the time, so the offer might need to still be a tiny bit stronger. But one could *reasonably* argue the TOR pick alone is more valuable than anything else that’s been given for this slot in the last 10 years.

Let’s talk about the Magic a little more. Let’s say Orlando is pretty happy with what they’ve got right now, which I think they should be. Banchero was a very deserving ROTY, Franz is a bucket, and they’ve got a lot of promising supplemental pieces. They looked pretty dangerous at times last year, especially in the second half of the season when they were healthy. What they DON’T have is a lot of excess draft capital. They own Denver’s pick in 2025 which isn’t likely to be very valuable, and other than that they have only their own firsts. A trade like this allows them the chance to keep adding lottery talent into the future even if they expectedly become a consistent playoff team, and since they also have #6 this year they don’t even have to completely go without a shiny new rookie to do it. Doug is included because the return still felt a tad light to me and because Orlando was 25th in the league in 3PT% last year – it’ll help if they get a full season of Gary Harris, but if they want to make a strong run at the play-in, they might need a little more. Lots of mocks like them to take Gradey Dick here, and while McDermott obviously wouldn’t figure into their long term plans, if they’re making to look a little noise this year, McDermott is almost definitely giving them more than what Dick would as a rookie.

MY EVALUATION: This is my favorite slot to target and I think it’s a fair trade for both teams. Orlando doesn’t necessarily *need* to add two more lottery guys to their roster this year when they can conceivably make a push for the play-in with what they already have, even while still getting touches for their foundational pieces. The Spurs like McDermott and I’m sure would love to keep him around all else being equal, but I don’t think they’d let him stand in the way of getting their PG of the future. It might take the CHA pick as well or maybe a bunch of seconds or something, but I think we have something here all things considered.

**Pick #12 (Oklahoma City)**

* *2016: ATL acquires from UTA in three-team trade (sends Jeff Teague to IND who sends George Hill to UTA)*

Now this spot on the other hand… There’s nothing to be done here. There’s nothing to be done here. Teague averaged 15pts and 6ast per game as a starter for 5 years in ATL with an all-star season in ‘15. Hill had slightly worse stats in 4 years as a starter in Indiana. Tre Jones plus the TOR 1st might be comparable value, but OKC doesn’t need a PG even at the backup position and they already have more future picks than they know what to do with. The scuttlebutt seems to be saying OKC will trade up if anything, which makes sense, and they certainly don’t need to do anything drastic after the improvement they showed last year and Holmgren still waiting in the wings. I’ve done plenty of looking for an angle on this pick and I just don’t see one. They’ve even got plenty of cap room and no bad salary to begin with. We’ll just move on.

**Pick #13 (Toronto)**

* *2022: CHA trades to NYK for a Denver 1st and four 2nds, who then trade to DET after the draft with Kemba for a Milwaukee 1st in 2025*
* *2017: DEN trades to UTA for pick 24 and Trey Lyles*
* *2013: DAL trades to BOS for pick 16 and two future seconds*

This one needs some intro first. I have no idea what the Raps are planning to do and [allegedly the team doesn’t either.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/13scoid/windhorst_talking_to_folks_who_have_been_in_touch/) Reportedly, Masai still thinks they have the ability to win now – I don’t know if that means actually winning a championship or just getting to the playoffs, but I think he’s wrong either way. Regardless, he’s such a bizarre trader that it feels impossible to predict what may or may not get a deal done. He overvalues his own players to an absurd degree, but he seems to do the same with Spurs players too. How we ever got a first rounder (that became Branham) for Thad Young and Drew Eubanks I’ll never know. So yeah, there’s certainly a recent history of swaps between us and them, one of which famously worked out amazingly and a couple others that very much didn’t.

Whatever direction Toronto does decide to go in, I think they’d be best served just making this pick. Keldon doesn’t make sense for them and we’re way past the part of the lottery where we’d even consider trading him anyway. But how about another direction?

PROPOSAL: SAS trades CHA 1st and pick 44, plus more future SRPs, and extends protection on 2024 TOR 1st to top-12 in 2024, top 10 in 2025. In return, SAS receives pick 13.

I wonder if something this simple gets it done. Maybe what we can best offer Toronto is flexibility. Maybe they carry this whole “I dunno” mentality into the season and then they’re a completely mediocre team at the trade deadline again staring down the barrel of a lost season where they probably still have to give up a pick to us that could easily fall into the 7-10 range. Would they give up #13 this year to ensure they can’t lose, say, pick #8 next year if their season falls apart? I don’t know, but maybe. With this offer, they even still get to make a couple other picks this year, and they’ve had success with late firsts and early seconds recently on drafts that looked a good deal thinner. Hell, looking at recent swaps for this slot, this even feels almost like an overpay – I think PATFO would have to be very sure about the guy they’re picking to give up a top-6 protected selection from a team in TOR’s current position.

This is the pick right now that I think is the most up in the air as far as availability – it could change dramatically over the next month depending on what sorts of conversations are happening in Raptors HQ. They could move up, they could move down, they could stand pat. I have no idea. It’s also the deal that I think has the most potential to come together extremely quickly on draft night; I could see Toronto having a couple specific guys in mind here and then scrambling to make a deal if they’re suddenly off the board.

MY EVALUATION: Raptors say no, but they think long and hard about it first.

**Pick #14 (New Orleans)**

*Has not been traded in the last decade.*

Sorry to end with a whimper, but yeah, I don’t see a deal to be made here. If they’re healthy they’ll be a team no one wants to see in the playoffs, and if they’re not, there’s nothing much they can do about it at this juncture. They’ve got plenty of future picks, they won’t want anyone on the SAS squad that we’d give up for pick 14, and there will absolutely be talent here that can help them immediately; they’re keeping this. I GUESS they might look for someone to dump Valanciunas in favor of one of the free agent Centers, but that would be kinda risky on their part and they’d probably want a return that’s less abstract than just the cap room and a few second rounders or whatever.

JUST-FOR-FUN PROPOSAL: [This hilariousness.](https://i.imgur.com/3gMFssw.png)

I expect PHX to have better offers on the table for Ayton, but after his disappearing act in the playoffs I wouldn’t say it’s a certainty. Maybe they’re so tired of him that this feels like an okay return, and maybe New Orleans thinks they can unlock whatever potential might be left. This also gets the Spurs the veteran C they reportedly want; JoVal isn’t exactly an elite rim protector but he’s a heck of a rebounder and can stretch the floor on the other end.

Like I said, though, this is just for kicks anyway for the people who want a wild idea; I don’t think the Pels want Ayton and I don’t think they should.

MY EVALUATION: New Orleans says no because they’re not insane and Phoenix probably does too. But it was a fun time in the trade machine.

**So, just to recap…**

* Picks I can’t see us getting: 6-8, 12, 14
* Probably not, but I could believe it: 5, 9, 13
* Sweet spot: 10 and 11

Pick #11 is the one I’d spend most of my time going after on the phone if I was an executive. #10 has its merits, especially because I personally like the Rubio idea a lot, but we can get a Cory Joseph or George Hill in free agency just as easily to fill that role, and the larger problem is that we’re already going to be dealing with a roster crunch that Bertans and/or McGee would exacerbate. #11 could end up costing nothing but picks that we have an excess, plus maybe McDermott, who we were perfectly willing to move at the deadline anyway and who would actually open up one of those valuable roster spots as well. I also don’t think there’s much danger in Dallas taking the guy we want if he is still on the board at 10.

Again, don’t take my proposals as any kind of hard offers; several of them I wouldn’t even support myself, as you can see. This is just meant as a quick-and-dirty (well, at least dirty) reference for what kind of value we might be looking at in these discussions.

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