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[Koreen] Fred VanVleet signing with the #Bulls is a ‘strong possibility’. Per @TheAthletic’s Eric Koreen, the Bulls could complete a sign-and-trade deal to land VanVleet worth up to $31.5M/yr. The Bulls would likely trade Lonzo Ball’s contract along with Patrick Williams to the #Raptors



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by pSpicyP

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  3. eLevateAFFN

    I like Patrick Williams as a prospect but I’d want ayo dosunmu as well possibly

  4. If he’s going to leave and this is one of the only deals we can get, it’s better than nothing. Patrick Williams is solid, but who knows if Lonzo is ever gonna play again. Don’t know what we’d do with that

  5. pSpicyP

    If this was true, we would need to pursue one of the guards from the wizards and they have have a bunch (delon or jones). Should be cheap to

  6. BrianBurns58

    I would need 2 firsts or a 1st and 2 2nds to take on lonzos contract

  7. I’d be super down. I like Williams a lot but we’d definitely need to try to make something happen with Washington or Orlando to get a decent point guard.

  8. Several_Repeat_5447

    This is old speculation btw.

  9. mxgicjohnson

    Lonzo was the perfect fit for NN and the Raptors.

    It’s a shame what happened to him. I hope he recovers well. Would definitely need more to take on that contract, but if he comes back healthy we got a squad boys.

  10. dfsaqwe

    raptors media: might be hard for raptors to take on FVV’s contract

    also raptors media: here’s trade where raptors take on a $20+21mill contract for a player who has never played a full season

  11. DarkChocolate_69

    Chicago is going to be even more mid 😂

  12. The_Living_L

    isnt his hometown close to Chicago or something like that?

  13. KinkyTOGuy91

    Williams is solid. Lonzo is a lottery ticket. Likely won’t pan out but huge upside.

  14. pSpicyP

    Bulls President: Going into the offseason, our expectation is that he’s not coming back next season,” Karnišovas said. “He’s going to continue on his recovery. If he comes back, it would be great. But we’re just going to treat this offseason and get ready for the season that he’s not going to be back.”

  15. midnightmunchiez

    Bulls really want to be on that mid-tier treadmill

  16. Decent_Pack_3064

    No sign and trade..lonzo is dead weight

  17. jaydogggg

    I doubt Lonzo plays again, but imagine this line “Dick and Balls are checking in”

  18. d0wnsideofme

    we really are getting the balls to pair with dick

  19. This would be a crazy overpay for Chicago and I am all for it. Bring us another Seminole and send Freddy home to play with Demar and lock down a play-in berth.

  20. JediRaptor2018

    Can we do a S/T between Fred and Ayo? I would like Ayo in a Raps uniform.

  21. SVS_Writer

    ![gif](giphy|5nc4vrrwHnK8w)

    Frank and Beans!

  22. myrapties

    [Lonzo’s is expected to miss all of next season as well](https://bullswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/23/chicago-bulls-update-lonzo-ball-injury-not-coming-back-next-season/).

    That’s $20 million down the drain next season [with a $21 million player option in 2024-2025](https://www.spotrac.com/nba/chicago-bulls/lonzo-ball-23597/) that he’s definitely going to pick up. Our roster would be a collection of forwards with with no point guard with this deal. Also, wouldn’t the Bulls be hard capped if this trade went through and they re-signed Vucevic and Coby White?

    Not to mention the fact that Siakam and Poeltl made it clear that they don’t want to be on a rebuilding team so they’d want out if this trade went through. This trade isn’t happening and makes no sense on any level.

  23. JebronLames619

    So we’re talkin a possible Dick and Ball duo?

  24. VulcanHobo

    Williams would be redundant for our team. But i’ll take it. He’s got potential. Reminds me of Gerald Wallace with less rebounding but better shooting.

    Having him on the team would also make it easier to move on from Siakam should the right deal arise.

  25. No_Brilliant5888

    If we get Williams, he is easily one of top 2 players from Florida State drafted 4th overall.

  26. Outland3r_

    Kind of furthers the logjam but I’ll happily take THE PAW

  27. Ylissian

    It’s not that easy to eat dead money like Lonzo’s contract anymore. Bulls would need to give up one or more firsts to dump Lonzo’s contract, even with Williams in the package.

  28. idislikehate

    Patrick Williams would be a fantastic piece to get considering FVV is a UFA.

  29. Huge-Split6250

    How can you all hate the thought of paying another dollar to Fred, but love the thought of paying Lonzo to do rehab? Y’all just want trades for trade’s sake

  30. NinfthWonder

    Decent value for a S&T. Lonzo is likely to retire before his contract is up.

  31. Fuuutuuuree

    Lonzo’s contract would certainly suck but Williams is a dog. I feel like that might free up the team to move Boucher down the road, and if they are willing to eat the $$ for a year and then buy him out after next they are in an alright spot

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