FS1’s Ric Bucher joins Steiny & Guru to discuss why Jordan Poole and the Warriors could not have coexisted and why this could be Steve Kerr’s final season in Golden State.
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38 Comments
He really tried everything.
He also tried punching him
Something nt right and people ain't stupid if they saw those RED flags with poole why nt wait to sign him why did they go ahead and sign him because the reward out weighted the risk. Draymond blew this thing up but no one's who's speaking got enough guts to say it Zeke said Rodman ws reason they won ships but win he gt to b to much they let him go, but they definitely didn't let anyone go because of him remember a teammate slept with his wife.
Why can’t Guru get over on Poole,wake up man he’s not a part of the team anymore.Whatever your reasons why you hate Poole not with the team this season move on.
Even tried beating some sense into him
Draymond should not get ANY praises for trying to fix the Poole situation. He did what he was supposed to do because the punch was really bad to begin with. Draymond is the reason why the locker room was what it was
"He couldn't see the bigger picture" that says it all (regarding Poole)
THE CLEAN UP. DAMAGE CONTROL. FUNNY ONCE POOLE LEAVES, THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN STARTED. POOLE WAS TALKING SMACK, POOLE HAD POOLE BBALL IQ, KLAY DISNT LIKE HIM. ETC. HOW ABOUT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALIENATING POOLE BY NOT HOLDING DREYMOND DEBO GREEN ACCOUNTABLE FOR ASSAULT. NOT EVEN A SUSPENSION. THEN ALL THE WAGONS MADE A CIRLCE TO PROTECT DEBO. CURRY, CLAY, DEBO GREEN, AND KERR. DEBO RAN KD OUT WITH BULLY BEHAVIOR AND NOW POOLE. IF THE WARRIORS HAD DELT WITH THE SITUATION SERIOUSLY LIKE MINNESOTA DID WITH GOBER..WHICH WAS ONLY A SHOVE, THEN POOLE MAY HAVE FELT HE COULD PUT IT BEHIND HIM. BUT THE WARRIORS CAVED TO THE BULLY. THAT CREATED A SCHISM ON THE TEAM. OLD HEADS AND YOUNG PLAYERS.
Not Steve 😢
Total generational gap with Poole commentary. Older people think about team stuff. Younger people are about individualism.
The Jordan Poole smear campaign is crazy and not a good look. At the end of the day, someone leaked that tape and once that was done it made things worst cause Jordan was clowned by his peers and Draymond was not punished. Now everyone wants Jordan to get over it?
Dame brought NOTHING to Portland so they don’t owe him anything!! 11 yrs and 1 conference finals and 0-9 against the Warriors in the playoffs!!??? Portland owes it to the city to bring back someone who can get them in a better position.
No matter who the personnel is, they need to find a way to win on the road. Hopefully, last year was an anomaly.
Dario and Paul Reed
I smell bs there’s more than 3 ppl on the team I guess if Steph, Klay and Green make the entire team.
Poole loves to dish 💩, but can't receive it 😂
What a clown trying to put this on Jordan
The Klay slander from all the causals and bandwagoners must not be tolerated.
Jordan had that coming to him. He just didn't think anyone on his team would pop him in his mouth for running it. I'm glad Draymond did it, I went out and copped his jersey soon after.
Moses Moody and Kuminga next year will be like Kawhi/Paul George or Jaylen Brown/Tatum for the GSW
I totally agree with Ric Bucher. This cost Poole the most. Blown opportunity for not humbling himself, resulting in a MISSED inheritance from Gurry to Poole. Stupid. it could have been his.
Draymond the Donkey is back. This organization is a joke
Dray is the biggest fraud. Saw his niche and exploited it from day one. He is a typical street dude. Dude cost us a ring to his buddy Queen James. Ran off kd and Poole. He even admits to pitting players against each other. Kuminga will Never get a fair shot with him around. He is the real cancer and should be moved for Myles turner or Jarrett Allen.
What's interesting is Donte Divincenzo was asked his opinion during his end of season press conference how he thought Jordan handled himself this season. Donte said, and I quote " I'll ride with Jordan till the wheels fall off. With as much attention as he got this season, he kept his head down and continued to work hard, did everything that was asked of him, never lost his confidence and remained coachable. Always open to listening to other voices. He was always the person everyone wanted to be around." Also, Draymond in an article in the Athletic spoke about a conversation that he had with Jordan in January about his performance. It was after a win against Toronto. Draymond said " Jordan received his feedback well." Something is off! They're going overboard to tear down this kid! If you noticed Ric, only mentioned 2 players Steph and Klay who were fed up with Poole, but he did not mention Divincenzo, Loon, Moody, Kuminga, or Wiggins. You know why? Because they didn't have a problem with Jordan! Only the core did. Draymond went on a series of podcasts, and did numerous interviews talking about the punch all season long! How was Poole supposed to get over it if he has to keep hearing Draymond bring it up in the media constantly. Stop talking about Jordan! He's gone! LET HIM MOVE ON IN PEACE!
Bucher keeping it real!
I don’t know if anybody laid hands on me I wouldn’t get over it either. I don’t think anybody won in that situation not Jordan not Draymond and certainly not the Warriors organization.
You know…. it's always Draymond. When we lost the championship Draymond, when KD left Draymond, now Poole.
Outsider looking in… this is karma for the Dubs. They tried everything to fix it with Jordan Poole??? They didn't even suspend Draymond lol. Be happy with the 4 rings, nobody can ever take that from yall, but thats where it ends.
Has Ric Bucher ever spoken with Jordan Poole?
How does one tell somebody like Guru that his whole perception of the players, his whole take is faulty in the first place? How do fans and pundits who have similar takes on the Poole trade/situation fail to see Poole simply aside from the off court stuff however you see that…..how do fans like Guru fail to see Poole's empty calorie, shallow hoops IQ, featherweight tweener body who can pass but it's not really his thing, and who not only can't play D as many smaller Gs can't, but he doesn't try hard which in the NBA is half the battle, and Poole also just doesn't sense D so even if he did try harder conceptually he hasn't shown it at all yet.
And for that price? Again, Guru and others. What part of this do you not grasp? So many angles fit perfectly with that trade (and then on top of the fact that simply making the trade clears so many things up bigger picture-wise cap etc, on top of that is that 1. the new GM actually "got it" and saw it, and made the deal, and 2. at the same time, remember now this is for an aging last shot at a title club, the Ws can obtain the all time high hoops IQ hungry for first title Chris Paul, and for a team that needs someone to kickstart the 2nd unit?
And as far as getting slower, the rest of the club is getting older too and they all know they can't run with the young hounds soon here. I would imagine in 2-3 years at the end of these contracts and as the W's aren't as good (unless they play their draft cards right and i like it so far) they'll have to figure out how to play the big 3 slower, and then perhaps have the rest be all young…or however they make it work. But simply holding onto Poole for some formulaic reasoning around staying younger or "he's the best insurance they have" to backup Steph or some such?
The trade was a no brainer, and that even moreso i would imagine if we fans knew the actual market for Poole (at that price remember.) In every way. And even if the trade doesn't work out on paper (i.e. if Paul gets hurt and leaves after one year and Poole puts up the shallow counting stats he will) it's still the right trade, still a no brainer. THAT is insurance.
But not if one overrates Poole and players like that while forming in the first place their narrative, their sense of hoops reality.
Sorry Guru, i probably sound harsh. Not gonna sugarcoat it though, peace.
Has it ever occurred to people that while we respect Jordan's hard work and confidence/determination, that once he did that and was then in the rotation, that from that point on he was playing with all time greats still in their late primes? That all he had to do was jusssst what he is…a scorer. Period. Do you think that that might have made him look better than he is or not? Do you see shallow stats and one dimensional players when you see one for years or not?
That dude is on pooles nuts.
Ric Bucher talk about how small the warriors lineup is
Bucher is full of sh*t.
I'm with you 100% Guru! If Poole was so toxic on the team, why did he get that big contract?
#antijordanpoolepropaganda emanating from the media, (and I strongly suspect certain GSW agents too), is thicker in the air than the smoke from them Canadian fires. At least that smoke was clean by comparison. Mighty foul.
One thing Draymond did NOT do: BE NICE.
Poole got that small d energy. You can't go to war with those types. Glad he's gone.
If they didnt leak that footage I guarantee u they could've made up. The fact that everyone knows it happened plays a big part. The real question is whoever leaked this. Whoever did it does not like Draymond.
Were not missing JP, we actually got better.