this is like an entry job requiring 5 years of experience.
to get a superstar you need another superstar lol
MDS_1996
“The Raptors’ interest was serious, for example, but Lillard’s disinterest in playing in Toronto remained an obstacle until the end.”
If there was this much reluctantnce from Lillard and his camp (and clearly there was) why pursue something that basically had next to no chance of ever happening?
Edit: And the FO/Masai cultists right on cue with the downvotes lol
absolutkaos
but…. i dont understand… i was told this was all Masai’s fault.
supernaturalfor
They probably assumed he could be persuaded but obviously not. Doesn’t hurt to try especially if the suggested deal that was floated was accepted.
OGnotAnunoby
He ended up in a better situation tbh so it’s hard to be mad at it. Masai and them tried so it hard for me to be upset curious to see what moves we make now
brye86
Keep telling you guys. The superstars like Toronto. But they don’t want to play here. It’s been seen time and time again.
FallenLemur
thistreestands
So many of us said all along that he wouldn’t be traded here for this reason alone and that his situation was nowhere near Kawhi’s.
jeaxz74
It’s okay Dame Toronto job market sucks major cojones compared to what’s there in the US market. 🙁
FuManchuDuck
What’s the main reason that super stars don’t want to play in Toronto? Is it tax reasons? Is it because it’s Canada?
For a player, why wouldn’t you want a whole country on your side?
thissiteisbroken
No you don’t understand. This is Masai’s fault.
chrisPjelly
Gonna guess Dame had a say on whether he wanted to play with Giannis or Siakam out of the available best deals. The answer was obvious.
And jfc, this sub sooo black and white on the topic of the FO. On this particular issue, fine, there may or may not be things that were out of their control. BUT that doesn’t detract from the overall frustration a lot of fans/media feel from the lack of action for the last few seasons. And I don’t care about “behind the scenes” or “they made an attempt” bullshit that people here keep peddling out, just like a W is a W, all that matters is the results of the off-season, and the results are that they haven’t done jack shit to move the needle either way. And I know they tried with Dame, but there is more than one way to achieve either result.
jyh123
Option A: Play with mvp-level Giannis and a ready made contender to compete right now
Option B: Play on a 41 win team that lost an all star and has no clue what direction its going
Tough choice
Right-Beautiful7631
Im sure Portland was looking at both Raps and Bucks offers and told Dame its one or the other, which one do you want? And cant Blame him for choosing Giannis.
Barnicus53
People in this sub spent 2-3 weeks posting every stupid rumour almost hourly, when in the end it came down to Lillard not wanting to play for Toronto, which should have been obvious to everyone paying even a little bit of attention to the situation.
He wanted to go to a potential contender, and Toronto is nowhere near that. I don’t know why fans can’t just come to grips with reality instead of trying to blame the front office for something they can control.
Winter_Purpose8695
Being in Canada makes Masai/Bobby’s job way harder. Put them anywhere in the US and watch them build out their dream team in a couple of years. Bunch of ungrateful fucks in here don’t know what a real bad front office looks like.
FactorNo7477
I think he chose to get traded to Milwaukee over us because he had a better chance at winning a title with Milwaukee than with us
PriorVariety5744
I’ve only read the headline, but if you had a choice to play with Siakam or Giannis? Who would you choose?
nohowow
Serious question: why would we care what he wants? He’s under contract.
t-earlgrey-hot
People feel like it’s the city. You think if Giannis was here he wouldn’t have agreed to come?
I love pascal but he doesn’t have respect from superstar players in that way. Scottie is an unknown.
phrenicbeat86
LeBatard now saying today that Portland never really engaged Miami throughout the summer, mainly due to spite and never wanted to trade him to Miami.
Yet yesterday he was saying Dame would be a Heat for sure.
Only trust Woj and Shams for news.
Ylissian
Even putting aside the fact that playing with Giannis is better than playing with Siakam, Milwaukees offer might honestly be better than ours.
Those pick swaps are being underrated. Milwaukee could easily be in the lottery in 2028/2030. I don’t even know if Dame will be in the NBA by then.
Kevita24
Masai has had so many “almost” moments in his career, he must lose a lot of sleep at night thinking about all of the things that he almost did
Almost moved up to 13th in the draft to get Giannis but they didn’t want to offer more to get him
Almost traded up to draft Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Almost drafted Desmond Bane but drafted Flynn instead
Almost traded FVV for value
Almost traded Siakam for a haul before the deadline
Almost traded OG for a haul
Almost made a playoff run after trading his 2024 first-round pick for Jakob
Almost traded for Dame lol
I’m sure I missed a few…
mxgicjohnson
Can’t wait to end his career when Barnes and Malachi Flynn knock his out the playoffs for the very last time in 2028. Man, I can’t wait.
Decent_Pack_3064
Bucks team is a lot lot better…..
Giannis Lopez Middleton Bobby Portis
WobbleKun
so cronin ultimately did dame a solid and let him choose? pop was like nope kawhi you’re deported lol.
LEXX911
Dame isn’t going to move that much of a needle for Milwaukee. People need to stop under valuing Jrue Holiday because Milwaukee just lost one of the best two-way player.
rkallday
Maybe raps should trade for jrue now
Raptorsthrowaway1
Can’t blame him. Who wouldn’t want to play with Giannis.
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this is like an entry job requiring 5 years of experience.
to get a superstar you need another superstar lol
“The Raptors’ interest was serious, for example, but Lillard’s disinterest in playing in Toronto remained an obstacle until the end.”
If there was this much reluctantnce from Lillard and his camp (and clearly there was) why pursue something that basically had next to no chance of ever happening?
Edit: And the FO/Masai cultists right on cue with the downvotes lol
but…. i dont understand… i was told this was all Masai’s fault.
They probably assumed he could be persuaded but obviously not. Doesn’t hurt to try especially if the suggested deal that was floated was accepted.
He ended up in a better situation tbh so it’s hard to be mad at it. Masai and them tried so it hard for me to be upset curious to see what moves we make now
Keep telling you guys. The superstars like Toronto. But they don’t want to play here. It’s been seen time and time again.
So many of us said all along that he wouldn’t be traded here for this reason alone and that his situation was nowhere near Kawhi’s.
It’s okay Dame Toronto job market sucks major cojones compared to what’s there in the US market. 🙁
What’s the main reason that super stars don’t want to play in Toronto? Is it tax reasons? Is it because it’s Canada?
For a player, why wouldn’t you want a whole country on your side?
No you don’t understand. This is Masai’s fault.
Gonna guess Dame had a say on whether he wanted to play with Giannis or Siakam out of the available best deals. The answer was obvious.
And jfc, this sub sooo black and white on the topic of the FO. On this particular issue, fine, there may or may not be things that were out of their control. BUT that doesn’t detract from the overall frustration a lot of fans/media feel from the lack of action for the last few seasons. And I don’t care about “behind the scenes” or “they made an attempt” bullshit that people here keep peddling out, just like a W is a W, all that matters is the results of the off-season, and the results are that they haven’t done jack shit to move the needle either way. And I know they tried with Dame, but there is more than one way to achieve either result.
Option A: Play with mvp-level Giannis and a ready made contender to compete right now
Option B: Play on a 41 win team that lost an all star and has no clue what direction its going
Tough choice
Im sure Portland was looking at both Raps and Bucks offers and told Dame its one or the other, which one do you want? And cant Blame him for choosing Giannis.
People in this sub spent 2-3 weeks posting every stupid rumour almost hourly, when in the end it came down to Lillard not wanting to play for Toronto, which should have been obvious to everyone paying even a little bit of attention to the situation.
He wanted to go to a potential contender, and Toronto is nowhere near that. I don’t know why fans can’t just come to grips with reality instead of trying to blame the front office for something they can control.
Being in Canada makes Masai/Bobby’s job way harder. Put them anywhere in the US and watch them build out their dream team in a couple of years. Bunch of ungrateful fucks in here don’t know what a real bad front office looks like.
I think he chose to get traded to Milwaukee over us because he had a better chance at winning a title with Milwaukee than with us
I’ve only read the headline, but if you had a choice to play with Siakam or Giannis? Who would you choose?
Serious question: why would we care what he wants? He’s under contract.
People feel like it’s the city. You think if Giannis was here he wouldn’t have agreed to come?
I love pascal but he doesn’t have respect from superstar players in that way. Scottie is an unknown.
LeBatard now saying today that Portland never really engaged Miami throughout the summer, mainly due to spite and never wanted to trade him to Miami.
Yet yesterday he was saying Dame would be a Heat for sure.
Only trust Woj and Shams for news.
Even putting aside the fact that playing with Giannis is better than playing with Siakam, Milwaukees offer might honestly be better than ours.
Those pick swaps are being underrated. Milwaukee could easily be in the lottery in 2028/2030. I don’t even know if Dame will be in the NBA by then.
Masai has had so many “almost” moments in his career, he must lose a lot of sleep at night thinking about all of the things that he almost did
Almost moved up to 13th in the draft to get Giannis but they didn’t want to offer more to get him
Almost traded up to draft Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Almost drafted Desmond Bane but drafted Flynn instead
Almost traded FVV for value
Almost traded Siakam for a haul before the deadline
Almost traded OG for a haul
Almost made a playoff run after trading his 2024 first-round pick for Jakob
Almost traded for Dame lol
I’m sure I missed a few…
Can’t wait to end his career when Barnes and Malachi Flynn knock his out the playoffs for the very last time in 2028. Man, I can’t wait.
Bucks team is a lot lot better…..
Giannis
Lopez
Middleton
Bobby Portis
so cronin ultimately did dame a solid and let him choose? pop was like nope kawhi you’re deported lol.
Dame isn’t going to move that much of a needle for Milwaukee. People need to stop under valuing Jrue Holiday because Milwaukee just lost one of the best two-way player.
Maybe raps should trade for jrue now
Can’t blame him. Who wouldn’t want to play with Giannis.