It would be worth building a new stadium just to keep shai
jbrunsonfan
The people don’t want to pay for a sub .500 team when the city needs so much more work
SEAinLA
Good. Vote it down. Make the owners fund or finance it themselves.
KasherH
Good. Owners have enough money to build them themselves. It shouldn’t be on taxpayers.
doordaesh
they already paying on the SALT tax or whatever that municipal thing is anyhow
vwb2022
It’s good, but I’m more concerned about why 47% think this is a good idea. Giving public money to teams worth billions of dollars is obscene and never has produced a return on investment for the community.
Dav136
If the city funds it do they keep ownership?
GeneralLou15
Let us improve this head line. “The ten richest guys in okc need a public handout to buy themselves a new home.”
iro3
Back to Seattle they go lol
nowhathappenedwas
The headline makes it sound like the poll was close. It wasn’t.
Only 22% of OKC residents support the sales tax to fund the stadium.
> Oklahoma City finalized plans last month to build a new downtown arena for the NBA team, the Oklahoma City Thunder, and plan to hold a citywide vote in December. Voters across the state were asked if they support or oppose a one percent sales tax for Oklahoma City residents to fund the new stadium. > > A quarter of Oklahoma residents (25%) support this measure, 42% oppose it, and 34% are unsure or have no opinion. In Oklahoma City, approval is lower: 22% support the measure, 53% oppose it, and 25% are unsure. > > “While the sample of Oklahoma City residents is limited, the results are clear: 53% oppose the 1% sales tax to fund the $900 million stadium, versus 22% who support the plan – a 30-point margin against the tax,” Matt Taglia, Senior Director at Emerson College Polling noted. “Statewide, Republicans are overwhelmingly opposed, 46% to 25% in support, while Democrats are less vocal in their opposition at 36% to 31% in support.”
Worth noting that the OKC subsample is just 82 people, which is tiny and subject to a huge margin of error. The sample for the full state was 495 people.
crs7117
seems like okc probably won’t have a team in a few years.
panickedwaddle
This is a small, statewide poll of 447 registered voters with only 82 of them being OKC residents. If it were a statewide vote, it would definitely not pass. As someone who grew up in rural Oklahoma, I can tell you a lot of people in rural parts wouldn’t be able to name 5 current NBA players. And they have no grasp on what the Thunder have done for the economy of OKC, nor would they care. What they do care about is the players wore messages of equality on their jerseys in the bubble and they think the players need to “just shut up and play basketball”. So yeah, they’re definitely going to oppose an arena in the conservative parts of the state.
Luckily, this isn’t a statewide vote. And I’m pretty confident the people in OKC will vote in the interest of their city and get this done.
T-Weed-
Welcome to the NBA, the Seattle Thunder Socks.
ElLibro42
They only asked 82 people from OKC, which has close to 700k residents. Way too small of a sample size to draw any sort of meaningful conclusion.
From someone that lives in OKC, I would definitely expect the motion to pass.
MannerElectrical9901
Send em back to Seattle
jtr6969
The upcoming expansion works in the city’s favor to play hardball. Looks like Seattle and Vegas are getting new teams anyways so the usual relocation threats will be emptier than usual.
rumblegod
Yep Oklahoma will stay a trash state. Anyone saying good to this is an idiot.
Anyways if we lose the team, as long as it’s not Seattle 🤣
DubsFanAccount
I took a class in college a long time ago where we did a week on public funding of stadiums. This was a big deal at the time bc the Padres were opening up Petco. Basically every conclusion is that a team added at best, essentially zero, economic value to a region and the only reason to publicly fund a stadium is just civic pride.
Here’s an old one but a gated [article](https://www.jstor.org/stable/976884?typeAccessWorkflow=login&seq=4) I remember reading. You can still see the abstract. If you’re going to do it, the article says to make sure multiple teams are sharing a stadium so there’s extra use and, if you do need public funding, a special tax district is maybe the best idea since it’s just the small region around the stadium that gets any benefit at all. Don’t know how much of this still holds up. Just triggered a memory and thought I’d share.
nike_4
Move back to Seattle fuck Oklahoma
Will_Explode8
Ownership boutta say fuck it let’s move the team again and fuck over another city of loyal fans
roastedhambone
This poll question was garbage, and was quite misleading about the actual situation. It’ll pass pretty easily, as every MAPS tax extension has passed easily for the last 30 years
KiritoJones
Billionaires using the public to fund these stadiums should be straight up illegal
_Jetto_
It’s tough to get taxpayers to want their money going to a new stadium im not sure why you would it’s not like it’s going to create that many new jobs from what I think. I’m surprised if taxpayers ever vote yes to soemthing like this unless there’s huge incentive to
IdealEquivalent6260
Would the new arena be in downtown?
Timely_Airline_7168
Why would you ask taxpayers to foot the bill instead of the billionaire? This is rare in football.
culturebarren
The sowing was fun but the reaping, ah the reaping
ishouldgetoutside
Those people will be mighty upset when the team leaves then
PeanutButterOtter
Thunder back to Seattle confirmed.
falconsheat11
Back to Seattle the Thunder go!
Edit: SuperSonics (?)
okokokok999999
Then they can lose their team, there are many cities willing to pay for a basketball team
People only regret when they lose it, ask any Seattle fan
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How outdated is the current arena?
It would be worth building a new stadium just to keep shai
The people don’t want to pay for a sub .500 team when the city needs so much more work
Good. Vote it down. Make the owners fund or finance it themselves.
Good. Owners have enough money to build them themselves. It shouldn’t be on taxpayers.
they already paying on the SALT tax or whatever that municipal thing is anyhow
It’s good, but I’m more concerned about why 47% think this is a good idea. Giving public money to teams worth billions of dollars is obscene and never has produced a return on investment for the community.
If the city funds it do they keep ownership?
Let us improve this head line. “The ten richest guys in okc need a public handout to buy themselves a new home.”
Back to Seattle they go lol
The headline makes it sound like the poll was close. It wasn’t.
Only 22% of OKC residents support the sales tax to fund the stadium.
> Oklahoma City finalized plans last month to build a new downtown arena for the NBA team, the Oklahoma City Thunder, and plan to hold a citywide vote in December. Voters across the state were asked if they support or oppose a one percent sales tax for Oklahoma City residents to fund the new stadium.
>
> A quarter of Oklahoma residents (25%) support this measure, 42% oppose it, and 34% are unsure or have no opinion. In Oklahoma City, approval is lower: 22% support the measure, 53% oppose it, and 25% are unsure.
>
> “While the sample of Oklahoma City residents is limited, the results are clear: 53% oppose the 1% sales tax to fund the $900 million stadium, versus 22% who support the plan – a 30-point margin against the tax,” Matt Taglia, Senior Director at Emerson College Polling noted. “Statewide, Republicans are overwhelmingly opposed, 46% to 25% in support, while Democrats are less vocal in their opposition at 36% to 31% in support.”
Worth noting that the OKC subsample is just 82 people, which is tiny and subject to a huge margin of error. The sample for the full state was 495 people.
seems like okc probably won’t have a team in a few years.
This is a small, statewide poll of 447 registered voters with only 82 of them being OKC residents. If it were a statewide vote, it would definitely not pass. As someone who grew up in rural Oklahoma, I can tell you a lot of people in rural parts wouldn’t be able to name 5 current NBA players. And they have no grasp on what the Thunder have done for the economy of OKC, nor would they care. What they do care about is the players wore messages of equality on their jerseys in the bubble and they think the players need to “just shut up and play basketball”. So yeah, they’re definitely going to oppose an arena in the conservative parts of the state.
Luckily, this isn’t a statewide vote. And I’m pretty confident the people in OKC will vote in the interest of their city and get this done.
Welcome to the NBA, the Seattle Thunder Socks.
They only asked 82 people from OKC, which has close to 700k residents. Way too small of a sample size to draw any sort of meaningful conclusion.
From someone that lives in OKC, I would definitely expect the motion to pass.
Send em back to Seattle
The upcoming expansion works in the city’s favor to play hardball. Looks like Seattle and Vegas are getting new teams anyways so the usual relocation threats will be emptier than usual.
Yep Oklahoma will stay a trash state.
Anyone saying good to this is an idiot.
Anyways if we lose the team, as long as it’s not Seattle 🤣
I took a class in college a long time ago where we did a week on public funding of stadiums. This was a big deal at the time bc the Padres were opening up Petco. Basically every conclusion is that a team added at best, essentially zero, economic value to a region and the only reason to publicly fund a stadium is just civic pride.
Here’s an old one but a gated [article](https://www.jstor.org/stable/976884?typeAccessWorkflow=login&seq=4) I remember reading. You can still see the abstract. If you’re going to do it, the article says to make sure multiple teams are sharing a stadium so there’s extra use and, if you do need public funding, a special tax district is maybe the best idea since it’s just the small region around the stadium that gets any benefit at all. Don’t know how much of this still holds up. Just triggered a memory and thought I’d share.
Move back to Seattle fuck Oklahoma
Ownership boutta say fuck it let’s move the team again and fuck over another city of loyal fans
This poll question was garbage, and was quite misleading about the actual situation. It’ll pass pretty easily, as every MAPS tax extension has passed easily for the last 30 years
Billionaires using the public to fund these stadiums should be straight up illegal
It’s tough to get taxpayers to want their money going to a new stadium im not sure why you would it’s not like it’s going to create that many new jobs from what I think. I’m surprised if taxpayers ever vote yes to soemthing like this unless there’s huge incentive to
Would the new arena be in downtown?
Why would you ask taxpayers to foot the bill instead of the billionaire? This is rare in football.
The sowing was fun but the reaping, ah the reaping
Those people will be mighty upset when the team leaves then
Thunder back to Seattle confirmed.
Back to Seattle the Thunder go!
Edit: SuperSonics (?)
Then they can lose their team, there are many cities willing to pay for a basketball team
People only regret when they lose it, ask any Seattle fan
47% is too high. Don’t give sports your tax money
Perfect! Hope the team moves.
Signed: a completely not bitter Sonics fan