[Source](https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/sixers-james-harden-daryl-morey-nba-trade-clippers-20231015.html?)
>Harden is “ramping up” with the hope of being available to play in the Oct. 20 preseason finale against the Hawks at the Wells Fargo Center. But skeptics wonder if Harden is only doing this because he expects to be traded.
>The Clippers want to get a deal done soon. They’re offering a first-round pick, a draft-pick swap, and expiring contracts for the 2018 MVP and three-time scoring champion. And a source said Los Angeles doesn’t want to raise their offer. As the only team bidding for him, the source said the Clippers don’t feel a need to do so. The source said Morey is the one holding up the deal.
>But the plan to add draft-pick swaps in a package for Harden hasn’t moved the needle for the Sixers. They’ve said they’re interested in a package that includes Clippers guard Terance Mann and first-round picks. But the source said Morey knows Mann is untouchable.
>The Sixers are looking for an All-Star player or assets to acquire for Harden. That’s why draft-pick swaps may not be good enough. And word is that the Sixers don’t expect the picks from the Clippers, who need to stay relevant in a big market, to be that valuable, especially with them being a perennial playoff team.
by FultzShoulder
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Don’t think the Mann thing is about his value they just need the depth otherwise they’re probably cooked anyway lol
Idk I still don’t see how not paying Harden was a good move at all. If they hold out and go through all this, punt this year and end up with what. Siakam? That’s a huge fail.
And by doing all this, Morey can’t exactly be like “hey yeah we dont think hes worth resigning” and also be like “but we want a top tier return for him!!”
Think Morey just tried to get too cute like he’s done a few times in the past. Can’t believe that mfer fumbled adding Jimmy Butler to the 2018 for Ryand Andersin+4 picks over the protections. That’s a chip or two easy
Imagine not wanting to trade Mann for an all star level player lol
Why is a 27 year old who averages 9 PPG untouchable lmfao
They talk about Mann like he is a 22 years old fringe all-star
>LA wants to get a deal done soon
>LA doesn’t want to raise their offer
Well fucking pick one
mann / maxey would b cool
Idk if this is true or not but Pompey is a fucking moron and terrible at his job.
Just kinda baffled that they think Philly would go for this. If all they get for Harden is draft capital they might as well trade Embiid too. They are better off keeping Harden if they aren’t getting any quality players back. I can’t imagine them making a trade that doesn’t bring back anything to help them win *now*.
Don’t mess with my Mann, I’ma be the one to break it to ya
Here’s a little advice for you, find your own Mann
Don’t mess with my Mann, I’ma be the one to break it to ya
Here’s a little advice for you, find your own Mann
This is Morey propaganda
SGA gave the Clippers PTSD 😭. Making Mann untouchable is crazy!!
Mark this trade as the time of death for the Sixers Process if this goes down.
Jon Horst about to secretly swoop in and get Harden for 2031 1st round pick. 🦌
That Mann is untouchable
I really hope the clippers (LA means the Lakers) get Harden so I can enjoy the implosion.
I like that the tone is that its Morey holding up the trade now not the Clippers offer scraps
A triple single role player being untouchable is the biggest piece of clown shit I’ve heard in a really long time.
A first, a swap, and Mann is still a decent underpay for Harden
Sixers waste so much valuable team building time for weird market power plays they going to lose anyway.
This franchise has the wrong priorities.
Harden averaged 20/6/8 in the playoffs and 21/6/10 in the regular season. Led the league in assists. He has immense value as a number 2 in at least the regular season which should interest the clippers. Bench Kawhi->Harden/PG/Westbrook helps keep your regular season seed high.
On the other hand Harden moving for too little means the 76ers window is basically closed and even worse Embiid might walk. People largely underrate how key Harden was in helping embiid get those numbers.
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203954/passes-dash?Season=2022-23
Harden->Embiid Passes were 35.7% of all passes he received with a staggering *4.8 FG* made per game from Harden alone.
The next highest passes to Embiid were Tyrese Maxey at 19.1% and Tobias Harris at 12.7% and Melton De’Anthony at 13.8%; all of whom only gave him 1.0 FG per game (Tyrese Maxey as an exception at 1.7).
Embiid who has visibly shown to care much more about the regular season than at least making it as far as AI will suffer a potential loss of almost *10 PTS*
No chance he would want to stay on a team that wont feed him as efficiently as Harden. Maybe not now, but guranteed he feels this way come Voting season again.
Morey has no incentive to trade harden away right now or even trade him to the clippers in general.
Mann = Clipper’s THT.
Sixers also need to understand that Harden is a headache. You cant get what you want. His worth declined.
I also dont get the Clippers take on Mann. I dont see heeps of talent
Terrance Mann better live up to the hype and average 30 this season after all these trade delays
this trade is never happening
Is Terrence Mann and Tyrese Maxey on the same team you couldn’t tell them apart.
I’m not sure he is untouchable, but the Clippers need to look at the future as well as the present and they have few draft picks and a lot of older vets. Young players are valuable because they’ll be our team once Kawhi, PG and Harden have all moved on.
This is wild the clips won’t give up mann. Harden, KL, PG13 is a legit championship contender.
A 27 year old who averaged 8 points a game last year is untouchable for a guy who got votes for All-NBA last year and led the league in assists, and the Clippers are a team that desperately need playmaking? What’s going on the NBA, like what are we doing?
I’m surprised we haven’t heard more rumblings about trying to get a third team involved.
76ers clearly need better players than “expirings.” Why not send a little bit of draft capital to have a team take on those expirings for some excess of young talent?
Maybe someone like the Jazz? ☝️🤔☝️
Or for a non-homer pick, the Thunder might make sense as well if they have salaries to match.
This is like the fourth article saying the exact same thing about the Harden LA trade.. which is nothing has happened
These NBA trade scenarios are always so stupid.
*Teranace fucking Mann* is “untouchable”?!?!? Going into the season, a 27-year-old 8/4/2 guard is just toooooooooo much to give up to get Harden?!?!?!?
I know it’s not prime Harden, but we are talking about prime *Terance Mann.*
God damn.
tre mann being “untouchable” is such a hilarious notion to me. mans bout to get gassed up.
Does Mann really move the needle that much
Why tf is Mann untouchable?
How much help does Kawhi Leonard need?
If Terrence Mann is untouchable, then I am dating Rihanna.
Why won’t Philly give up James Harden for literal table scraps? Are they stupid?
If Mann is what’s between you and landing Harden, if I’m LA I’m just going for it. I don’t even think it’s that hard of a decision.
Watch the Clippers trade for Buddy Hield instead lol