#Orlando Magic at LA Clippers
Crypto.com Arena- Los Angeles, CA
[ESPN](https://www.espn.com/nba/game/_/gameId/401584742)
[TV/Radio](https://reddit.com/r/OrlandoMagic/comments/17l100y/game_thread_orlando_magic_21_at_la_clippers_21/k7b73g3/)
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|Time Clock|
|:–:|
|Final|
||Q1|Q2|Q3|Q4|Total|
|:–|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|
|ORL |18|32|21|31|102|
|LAC |13|34|41|30|118|
###Player Stats
**Orlando Magic**
|Player|MINS|PTS|FGM-A|3PM-A|FTM-A|ORB|DRB|REB|AST|STL|BLK|TO|PF|+/-|
|:–|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|
|F. Wagner|32:21|14|6-13|2-7|0-0|1|7|8|3|0|1|3|4|5
|P. Banchero|32:03|15|5-13|1-3|4-8|0|4|4|4|4|0|3|3|-15
|W. Carter Jr.|29:42|7|2-8|0-2|3-6|1|7|8|3|1|0|2|2|-16
|J. Suggs|31:36|11|5-10|1-5|0-0|2|4|6|3|1|1|3|5|-12
|M. Fultz|32:12|12|6-11|0-0|0-1|1|4|5|1|1|0|2|3|-16
|C. Anthony|17:31|10|3-6|0-2|4-6|0|2|2|1|0|0|1|3|-18
|G. Harris|17:45|9|3-5|2-4|1-3|0|2|2|2|1|0|0|1|0
|M. Wagner|14:22|13|4-7|0-2|5-6|0|1|1|1|1|1|1|2|1
|J. Ingles|12:48|0|0-1|0-1|0-0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|-4
|A. Black|3:56|0|0-0|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|-1
|C. Houstan|3:56|6|2-5|1-4|1-1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|-1
|C. Okeke|3:56|2|1-1|0-0|0-0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|-1
|J. Howard|3:56|2|1-1|0-0|0-0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|-1
|G. Bitadze|3:56|1|0-0|0-0|1-2|1|0|1|3|0|0|0|0|-1
**LA Clippers**
|Player|MINS|PTS|FGM-A|3PM-A|FTM-A|ORB|DRB|REB|AST|STL|BLK|TO|PF|+/-|
|:–|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|–:|
|P. George|32:45|27|8-17|6-9|5-6|1|6|7|7|2|0|3|2|15
|K. Leonard|32:59|8|3-11|0-3|2-2|2|6|8|3|2|0|1|1|18
|I. Zubac|22:41|9|4-8|0-0|1-2|2|7|9|1|0|1|1|1|19
|B. Hyland|32:18|17|6-14|4-7|1-2|0|0|0|3|1|0|1|4|8
|R. Westbrook|32:53|18|8-16|0-4|2-2|0|6|6|7|5|1|3|4|16
|N. Powell|28:56|17|5-8|2-5|5-7|0|3|3|3|0|0|3|4|-2
|M. Plumlee|22:19|10|5-7|0-0|0-2|2|5|7|2|0|1|2|4|-5
|A. Coffey|10:16|0|0-1|0-0|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|-4
|K. Brown|19:02|7|3-4|1-2|0-0|1|2|3|1|0|1|0|4|11
|J. Miller|2:55|3|1-1|1-1|0-0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|2
|M. Diabate|2:55|2|1-2|0-0|0-0|1|0|1|2|0|0|1|0|2
###Team Stats
|Team|FGM-A|3PM-A|FTM-A|AST|PF|STL|TO|BLK|OREB|DREB|REB|
|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|:–|
|ORL|38-81|7-30|19-33|23|24|9|16|3|7|33|52|
|LAC|44-89|14-31|16-23|29|26|10|16|4|9|35|57|
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I get people are saying don’t be negative, its early and its a small sample size (although consistent) but its quite hard to be positive? Is there anything constructive we can take from this?
Our best players have regressed, doesn’t seem like we have an alpha/guy who can takeover. We’ve been sharing the ball more but is this at detriment to getting Paolo etc in their grove?
Seems like Team USA wasn’t as great for Paolo as everyone was making out, he seems a shell of his former self. Maybe a run with Italy could have yielded a more confident Paolo.
We thought we had acquired enough shooting in preseason. Seems like we are still shooting like shit (maybe we brush it off).
Just to say, I am not panicking, its not a hot take, its a serious question.
Whats going wrong right now? Even in the games we have won it seems a little too consistent a problem to be just rust.
We all stayed up to watch this team get bent over in the 3rd. Pathetic effort. Idc that it was back to back, that was just embarrassing.
Houstan needs ingles minutes
Some of you guys need to chill. It’s the 4th game after a tough early West Coast back to back. This honestly our first “bad” game of the season . People need to remember this is still a young team learning how to win the game. I still think this team is very much capable of winning over 40 games
I was hyped for this team all summer long.
Let’s hope we don’t look much worse than we did tonight. Free throw shooting was abysmal. Paolo and WCJ in particular need to find another gear but nobody other than Suggs looked like they turned up for the game tonight.
57% from the line… no need to tell more.
What the fuck is going on.
This 110% defense too much for them?
23% from 3PT, 57% FROM FT.
It’s damn near impossible to win if that’s the case. Legs obviously weren’t there tonight, but these are carryover problems from last season.
Additionally, the third quarter continues to be awful for the Magic. Ultimately, that’s on coaching. Other teams come out of the half with a better action plan than the Magic.
So everyone sucked
Observations, not reactions:
Paolo and Dell have not had a good game yet. They are too important to this team to both be struggling. Early in the year, need them to wake up.
The offense is capped by MF’s shooting. It’s not going to get better, and the options to replace him are Suggs, who is not a good shooter either and is reckless at times with the ball; Cole, who is not as good a playmaker or defender than Fultz, but a much better scorer; or AB, who as far as we know is just a younger MF.
I’m also ready for Ingles to take a seat. I’d rather see the rookies get those minutes.
FREE THROWS OH MY GOD
This poor shooting has to be unsustainable.
That is what I’m currently clinging to, the defense is there, Westbrook and George absolutely cooked us in the 3rd but aside from that we’ve been suffocating.
Important to remember the Lakers and Clippers are both contenders so a loss to them while slumping like this shouldn’t be surprising.
We can’t even get layups to go atm. It should level out.
wow.
Coaches better lock these guys in the gym to work on their free throws.
Paolo and WCJ need to go and book themselves a darkness retreat, do some ayahuasca, pray to the basketball gods, etc. Something done happened to their games.
Oh, and Joe Ingles shouldn’t be playing anymore. Play someone who isn’t afraid to shoot. You got two shooters just sitting on the bench in Caleb and Jett. Ingles don’t need to play in order to be a mentor.
Paolo, WCJ and Mose go run some laps, ya’ll boys was ass tonight
I just want to say I know it’s only game four and I think the world of Markelle Fultz as a person and his journey as well as I think the world of the innate talent he has his ball handling his burst and finishing as well as his passing.
But he is such a bad fit in this starting lineup at this point. When your hopefully eventual best player is a non floor spacer and the other players on the court are not reliable spacers you can’t have a pg who won’t even look up at the 3 point line teams are just building a wall in the paint and Fultz won’t even attempt a 3.
Suggs for his inconsistency at least Is confident in his shot. I genuinely believe the struggles of dell paolo and franz at times is because teams don’t respect the magic from the 3 point line at all. Fultz is far from the only reason they lost I just fully believe long term he’s not a good fit in the starting lineup I really hope I’m wrong because I love what Fultz can do.
Nah I understand it’s a back to back but there’s no excuses for completely forgetting how to make a wide open 3 or knock down 2 consecutive free throws. Why is that so much to ask? Mose’s rotations and stubbornness to play ingles and Anthony on the court at the same time for extended minutes is laughable
Our best players need to play like all-stars. Clanking layups and wide open threes and free throws isn’t a coaching problem – people need to hold these young players accountable for underperforming.
One thing I’d like to see Mose change though is go with Houstan over Ingles. Dude is cooked and isn’t giving us anything. But like most of us, I’m sure the coaches thought he’d at least give the team SOMETHING… nope.
We’re in a tough spot because our starting lineup probably needs Harris in it, but that means benching Suggs who looks to be the only one battling every night. We can’t start Suggs at PG because he hasn’t shown great PG abilities, otherwise it’s an easy choice to have Fultz come off the bench. Maybe starting Cole? But then our bench has weird scoring issues.
WCJ looks horrible too but Moe isn’t a realistic option because his defense is ass.
At least the commentator over there acknowledged Magic’s potential in the east(dude even said top 6). Understandable loss as they just came from a tough game against a loaded team, then to deal with a similarly loaded one just now.
After these back to backs, the boys need to rest, revitalize, heck even resuscitate, and do some reps…especially on the fts. game could’ve been close if they nailed all those tempting ft points. Shake it off, and be efficient next time! Don’t forget about defense too, especially looking at that 3rd qtr.
Everyone is going to come in here and act like the sky is falling.
We lost to two teams with vets and stars. It happens. West Coast trips are always tough. Especially back to backs. There’s definitely some kinks to work out in this new offense.
I do have some concerns with Fultz lack of shooting and JI still being coddled. We needed JI on AD last night and needed him on PG tonight. No reason for him not playing after only playing 8min yesterday.
Utah is the perfect team to play next.
They don’t play any defense, the Magic need to drop 120+ on them.
Markelle is my favorite player on the team but he needs like a Ben Simmons/Westbrook/Giannis esque build around in terms of roster construction.
Every single person around him would need to be able to shoot for his lack of shooting to be viable. If Paolo exists Markelle needs to either actually start shooting (Hes good from mid he can figure it out from 3) or be traded
Sick of people saying don’t be negative. We could or very well should be 4-0.
No more Ingles please (saying this as an Aussie).
Kelle and Suggs minutes need to be staggered as much as possible.
Yes it’s early but people saying not be worried about Paolo need to pay attention, he looks lost offensively and his body language is TERRIBLE (has looked good defensively though).
Also why does Mose never ride the hot hand? Gary Harris last night benched when he hadn’t missed. Moe benched tonight when he was top scoring in like 8 minutes (AND WCJ was stinking it up).
I was at the game in person and WOW did we look lost. Blown layups, terrible shot selection, missing FTs… Markelle was visibly PISSED at WCJ during Timeout in the 3rd qt. Paolo also seemed to be playing with a lot of hesitation on the offensive side of the ball.
7-30 from deep is the game right there
Can we please make some free throws?
Ingles is cooked offensively get him off the floor
I realized tonight that the tournament starts this weekend and I am no longer a believer is is winning it. Maybe guys get out of the slumps but is sure as hell doesn’t look like they’re ready to play a tournament. Oh well maybe we’ll draft another big guy who can’t shoot this draft
At some point our front office is gonna have to respect skilled players that can actually shoot
Our roster construction is fucking ass. No shooting. I’ll just go ahead and say it. Drafting Paolo instead of someone who could actually shoot was fucking stupid. He may be a great player someday but he does not fit our roster. And the moves we’ve made since drafting him don’t make any sense either. It’s like the FO somehow thinks we can win without making 3s. Spoiler alert, we can’t.