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Are Steph Curry & Warriors a sinking ship? | Hoops Tonight



Jason Timpf is joined by @Nerd_Sesh to debate whether Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, and the Golden State Warriors are capable of another run to the NBA Finals. What moves should Golden State consider to return to title contention?

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41 Comments

  1. Getting rid of your only healthy athletic player? That’s stupid. Trade Andrew Wiggins while he still has some value. You’re not gonna win a championship with a whole bunch of older players

  2. The warriors and Steve Kerr are stuck in the past…Kerr does not want to transition and that is the stage the warriors are in.

  3. Until warriors can lower turnovers from 20-25 down to 10ish, they will lose vs most teams. No trades will solve that issue

  4. I’m starting to see a lot of these sports podcasts hate when the fans in the comments talk about the poor play of the team . Yet they will go on live and say “Eh don’t worry “”the seasons early” give it some time , blah blah blah . Now they finally see wtf real fans been seeing you from the start smh.

  5. We’ve listened to hundreds of bad takes by Charles Barkley because he does not like the Bay. None of them matter.

  6. They haven't done anything with their core in years. Think about that, it's kind of a miracle it worked in 22, most teams will move around their players ranked 3-5. The Warriors don't even have a clear #2 player. They needed a dynamic like Giannis / Dame to take advantage of Steph.

  7. Poole had a Linsanaity year in 22'. Steph carrying this team to the chip that year looks even more monumental.

  8. Agree about the bench. Wish Kerr would start the bench just to make a point. But I get why he won’t.
    I still don’t understand getting Chris Paul instead of a big, but maybe he has more to do with the quality of how the bench is now than I know about. 🤷🏽‍♀️
    But the turnovers! I don’t get it. They’re making millions of dollars. Get it together.

  9. These 3 days are crazy. You really think Toronto would want Kuminga or CP man what have Kuminga showed. Lol man the media will do anything to keep the warriors together

  10. Klay has been improving each game but some ppl are so use to trash talking him they dont even notice this. Keep confident Klay!

  11. Keep CP3, him leading the 2nd unit puts our bench a head of every one else in the league and he’s on an expiring contract. TRADE WIGGINS, man was out the half the season last year for “personal reasons”, didn’t play a stretch of games coz of boo boo on his finger, he has no drive or love for the game of basketball, its just another day at the office for him. Trade him for Dorian Finney smith and Royce Oneal!!

  12. Without having a clear second best player in a duo with Steph, this team is never even close to a championship run

  13. Five guys on that team I wouldn’t trade: Steph, Kuminga, Moody, Loony and Payton. Everyone else could be on the block, starting with Thompson and Green.

  14. I think they should change the offensive a little bit. This motion offense is being telegraphed by the league, even i know the plays they're setting by watching so many games, maybe it's the reason why they're needing to make so much tough shots. Simplifying would help klay and wiggins, i don't know why they don't explore more JK on mismatchs under the rim like other teams do so much against steph too. Simplify things and once the guys are riding well, insert the motion back, mixing at times.
    Last year against the Lakers they were killing i dont remember in which game with PnR and then switched back to the motion offense and ended up losing the game in the fourth quarter too.
    The defense i don't think is on the players to blame, they most of the time are playing 1 position above and don't have the height or phisicality to play against, also the defensive schemes on the floor are pretty ugly to watch, signs of a poorly coached team in both ends of the floor.
    I'm not saying to fire steve kerr, but this man need some help and other coach piece with some new ideas to make this team a really contender.
    I don't think a player will change this issues above, the problem is deeper, 29 turn overs against OKC is some signal of that.

  15. i get that you are trying to be relatively positive to get the best outcome possible but as a warrior fan what you said makes no sense
    the gsw cannot be fixed with a simple need for a trade to get a big but that will not fix the problem
    the gsw always struggled with size but that never prevented them from winning
    1st point you guys talked about klay still good and its just a slump … that is just not true , he always had that issue his entire career but the difference is he was not a liability on defense now he is
    2nd point trading cp3 for a big is a good idea but in reality a very bad one because you lose cp3 you lose the bench unite which is the only good thing this year beside steph curry

    3rd and finally chuck was little harsh but also right the team is just too old and kerr need to admit that so yes yo what you guys talked about at the end kuminga moody podz and RJD need to be in the starting or finishing rosters to actually win

  16. No way would I move Kuminga. He’s a 20pt scorer if Kerr plays him 27-30min and gives us athleticism and perimeter defense. Kerr should play Kuminga and Moody more together with Wiggins and Draymond so you can switch everything. That would be a great defensive and offensive lineup with Steph out there

  17. Who are they trading that has actual value? They have no valuable assets to go get OG, Grant, Siakim or Lavine or a 6th man. They’d have to give up a lot and their defense won’t get much better as a result.

  18. Why trade the guy leading the improved bench unit? Trade Klay… his contract is bigger, he’s not as important and clearly his legs are gone and can’t last an entire game. Every “good” game he has had he is hot in the 1st half then falls off in the 2nd when his legs are toast

  19. Ait Jason, you HAVE to make a video explaining why you don't like Kuminga. Please, cause i just feel like you aren't watching the games. Like i get i get, "Moody has been more consistent." I've heard it all, and Moody has been great. But Kuminga is literally our second or third best player. Anyone who says otherwise isn't watching the games. Just because his 3 isn't falling and he may make a small mistake here or there, doesn't change the fact that he is our best defender of any position, he puts the opposin team in foul trouble consistently, he gets to the basket better than everyone but steph, and lately, even matches Steph. Like just look at the portland game and the thunder game we just lost. In Portland, he was out of the rotation and we were going to lose, he plays about 10 minutes because Kerr needs something, and he ans steph together turn the game around completely….mind you Moody was in the rotation and we still could barely hang on to Portland. Than in OKC, he scores 24 points, plays incredible defense to the point where SGA didn't want to take the matchup, but SGA was going after Wiggins cause it was easy money. And he made one mistake when he fouled out, because he was amped up from being so incredible at the end of regulation. But are we really going to get at him for committing that foul WHEN BOTH STEPH AND DRAYMOND THREW TURNOVER AFTER TURNOVER AT THE END OF GAME TRYING TO MAKE US LOSE! If Kuminga gets traded……. I'm boycotting the Warriors. That would he the definition of, "oh we just need someone to blame," and it would be a complete and utter failure from the management to do so. I'm heated now lol, Kuminga is unironically our second or third best player. I need a video Jason so you can explain yourself!

  20. Not in the what if business, but crazy to think that IF the warriors won those 4 games that they gave away (OKC 18 point lead crazy shot by Chet, Kings 24 point lead crazy shot by Monk, 22 point lead game winner by PG, 14 point lead silly mistake by Dray), they's be second in the west. Wild!

  21. I'm writing them off as long as Kerr stays the coach. If Kerr keeps misusing Kuminga and Moody, they are going to request trades and the season will be over anyway cuz there goes their promising bench. Wiggins is out of shape and still dealing with whatever family issues he had last year and Klays ego is unbearable and he's a literal headcase. riding on past glory Mr 4 Rings. Draymond however brilliant will either run off their young talent or find a way to put the warriors in a bad position with his anger issues. Green is too Volatile to trust any longer. That is the realistic way to look at the warriors future.

  22. Kerr needs to stop playing Corey Joseph. Lester Quinones has earned a shot at those minutes; he can't be worse than Corey Joseph. Warriors need size, and they could get a better with a trade, but the Warriors really have the personnel to win every game they have lost. Trading JK would be crazy. Kerr needs to play him more. He is a Star in the making.

  23. They are not sinking. The Warriors have already sunk. Until Kerr stops using Wiggins and Klay to start, the Warriors will fall under .500 games.

  24. So many clowns. As if the warriors just got bad all of a sudden. It has nothing to do with age or draymond/poole. It’s the damn coaching. Truly. Even the struggles with Klay and Wiggins boils down to coaching and how to run offense. Kerr not playing the right guys. They can contend. Ten games and everyone was all in on the warriors then they have issues with suspensions and injuries and the naysayers start bumpin their dk skrs.

  25. Very interesting the volume…who dray also has his podcast on is pushing the trade kuminga away agenda lol thats would be so foolish….trading a future star who is a fan favorite because the coach doesnt know how to adjust his system? If they dont win that would be a disaster, moody and podz arent guys who can create offense, so youre trading the guy with by far the highsest upside on both side of the floor ? The what pay pascal and klay after u lose in the 2nd round?

  26. You dont trade kuminga…..ever….he sells tickets and has star upside. And could be that 2nd scorer, u try to trase cp3 and Wiggins and get u a real big who can score and protect the rim

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