WHERE DO THE ATLANTA HAWKS GO FROM HERE?
What up YouTube what up NBA fans Atlanta Hawks it’s not going as great as you thought it would be that um a lot of rumbling and talks of Trey young jonte Murray uh we’re g to break it all down uh what are you guys thinking first it’s kind of like let’s
Figure out why they we think Trey should be TR think Trey should be traded because he doesn’t fit that team anymore in the sense that it was kind of he was the star he actually is the star power on that team but that team to
Me has dog in it and Trey’s just not a dog so if your leader is the weakest person then I just don’t see how you can be a good team it’s going to come down to yeah if you want to dump tryer or dejon but as a
Franchise it looks worse if he D I think it looks worse to be done de jante just because you just gave up all these assets for him where you traded for young all those years ago um or you traded back and uh for the the Luca
Trade so I mean I think you just cut your losses where Trey for all he can do on offense is just such a minus on defense and he just doesn’t have the body to ever be more than a minus so you need a very particular team around them
Which is why the dejonte trade was weird I didn’t ever love it I liked it at first because they were trying something but it clearly isn’t working out so you’re gonna have to trade one of them you can’t trade dejonte till January 12th or whatever but not that they’re
Going to trade before then I just think it’s young I think Young has enough value because of the numbers he puts up and he fills seats in the arena where you can uh sucker some teams into paying close to a dollar for a dollar okay give me a team where do you where
Do you like where would you like to see try go all right I I was on the trade machine I did three trades they get they get more and more crazy as we go on the first one I’m just making sure I have have the info right the Brooklyn Nets
The Nets are in this weird state of mediocrity they uh aren’t really tanking they aren’t competing for much their picks are owed and their picks are all over the place and uh the guy okay Mel Bridges and Dorian finy Smith for Trey young and Sadi
Bay if I’m Atlanta i’ come to you with that and I was like I might consider that but I’m keeping sadique Bay and I’m trying to off uh DeAndre Hunter well because I just feel like sadique Bay has more scoring potential and then with the versatility I get back
In bridges and um finy Smith then I can play any of those from the two to the four which makes that a very versatile team essentially it would be Brooklyn Nets but in Atlanta yeah you have dejonte Murray with Mel Bridges capella I like it for
The Hawks and I kind of like it for the Nets you get Trey young and Brookland it’s a star that um fills the arena you get four Nets Nicks games a year and Trey young playing the Knicks is always fun so I I I kind of like it for both
Teams because they’re both not where they want to be and it gives them both a reset also it gives see the reason that that trade makes so much sense to me and I know Hawks fans are not going to agree with this but AJ Griffin would be my
Starting two guard in that scenario for Atlanta if I get those players because then I’m putting muel at the three AJ at the two and that giv gives me shooting bonovich Off the Bench I like him off the bench because you could I don’t have to worry about you guarding
Anybody um we could switch everything one through four pretty much on defense if I had uh Mel Bridges and AJ Griffin so I like that trade I don’t hate it um I think Atlanta fans would hate it because I think they would expect more star power in return right they have an unrealistic
Expectation for what TR young as worth yes where I think in basketball you get a good 3 and D guy I think Mel bridg is alone I’m not saying they’re one for one but honestly if a team would say no it might actually be Brooklyn Brooklyn
Might just say we don’t want Trey young that’s why I had that reaction when you first said that because I like if I’m looking at that from a Brooklyn perspective I think I’d rather just Cape Bridges because it’s easier to build around that kind of player than it is a
Trey like Trey young going to Brooklyn is solely like you said to sell tickets to put up points and sell tickets what the Nets have done before so for the Nets would be a marketing move or the Hawks would be a basketball move correct all right number two Trey
Young and Atlanta has Sacramento’s protected first so they throw that in for Brandon Ingram and Larry n Jr Brandon in grim and I like that but I’m asking for more if I’m Atlanta if you’re Atlanta if I’m Atlanta I’m asking for more because Larry n j i could easily ship your ass off
Immediately like I have nothing going forward with you you know what I mean like you’re a rental and that you might be the kind of player where we have to we could involve a third player and there’s just too much good young Talent over there in New Orleans that I’m
Trying to get my hands on whether it be like a herb Jones uh Dyson Daniels or one of those guards like like I’m if I’m Atlanta in that scenario I’m trying to be as greedy as possible but I do like Ingram on that team I love to see Ingram in the Eastern
Conference that’s what I’m saying I don’t know if Ingram is that much who’s the better player one who would you rather have to start a team Ingram or young it’s Trey only because he doesn’t miss as much time as Ingram Ingram he’s still a little bit uh like soft in the
Ass he’s he never grew so he has these weird little soft tissue injuries that happen and before you know it he misses eight games every couple months all right so maybe New Orleans throws in a pick rather than Atlanta um or pick or two but I like Brandon Ingram with de
Jon Murray and capella that that’s a good fit but do you think I don’t think capella is gonna be there for much longer he’s definitely on the trade block I actually do believe he’s going to be one of those players that get he’s on the last year of his deal he’s too
Sought after that kind of player so I just think he’s moving on you could get a third team in to take capella then with this with these deals also I mean it would probably be better for him to get get it just all out the way you have one press
Conference okay speaking of three teams this is my most batshit one this is like a 2010 2011 era trade because not many this many stars would never move three teamer all right should I tell you who each team is trading or getting uh who each team is
Getting okay so the Hawks are getting Zack LaVine and Marcus Smart okay the Bulls are getting Trey young bonovich and Brandon Clark and The Grizzlies are getting thear de Rosen wait wait no sorry the the uh I made two versions of this sorry Start Over the Hawks are
Getting LaVine smart zier Williams the bows are getting Trey young Brandon Clark Jake laravia and The Grizzlies are getting D rozan and DeAndre Hunter the Grizzlies are getting D I like that for everybody but the Grizzlies see I made that I made that first one and the Grizzlies were just
Getting D rozen and I was like I feel like they’re giving up way too much to just get D rozen yes so that’s why I added in DeAndre Hunter so that gives them a couple of wings so you would roll with jaw Bane the rozen which would be a pretty solid
Three you just still have jiren Jackson and Adams that’s my only issue is DeRozan’s gonna want to play where jiren Jackson’s gonna want to play but the DeAndre Hunter I love that on that team that three and D player that’s kind of what they’re missing I like it I mean I’d prefer the
Uh the first one but so what do you think about the Hawks return LaVine smart Zer Williams uh do you feel like Marcus Smart and uh dejonte are too similar that that was my concern I I kind of felt like they needed some defense back because that’s been their
Problem as defending guards so you have Marcus Smart just be your your uh guard Defender but that would give you three guards basically was uh smart leaving into jante so that that is the issue with it but I’m thinking like smart running a second unit oh he did it a lot in
Boston he ran the second unit I I like LaVine on that team also because he’s just a bucket you know what I mean but then also it gets to the point where it’s like I don’t trust you to play defense either LaVine right so swapping one bag contract who can’t play defense for
Another but if you’re Atlanta you’re getting a few assets back probably some picks would be thrown in there too and then for the Bulls you get Trey young I think the Bulls win this fake trade is they get off of LaVine they get off of D rozan and they get Trey young and
Brandon Clark just on their own I see I like that scenario because if I’m B uh Chicago and that my main focus is to free up money I believe with Trey Young on that team you could get a good free agent on that team I.E Anthony
Davis I think you could pull him from the Lakers and you need a quote unquote starting point guard with Lonzo balls still out 80 million contract yeah I’m curious to see Hawks fans let us know which which trades you like the best but I’m curious to see of those
Three I would assume they like the the Brandon Ingram one because it’s a bigger name there’s okay this is going to be a hot take I believe but there’s actually one team that I believe has the assets to get him in the form of draft capital and I for some reason I just
Can’t shake the feeling it’s a really good fit for him and that’s Philly Trey young yes Trey Young’s ability to get his own shot is something that team could use Trey Young’s ability to play off the ball and run off screens and play off of
Off of embiid in a form of like what Seth Curry and JJ reick did would help that team you obviously know how to hide a bad Defender because James Harden’s been over there I think that’s a good spot for Trey young would that take away from
Maxi I don’t believe it would take away from Maxi because I think the purpose is is like Trey could still get his buckets off the ball and regardless of what people say about Trey dejonte put up good numbers with Trey on the team so I think Maxi’s a better player than Deonte
So he could continually do that well it makes it interesting because that you brought Philly up because Tobias Harris is a name that a lot of people are looking at so the way the NBA works three four five teams in there he could be a name on the
Outs when you bring a Trey young in the thing about Tre young that a lot of people have to take into consideration and this is my personal opinion as it pertains to where he should go is you cannot have a team in this league today with two small guards
One of your guards has to be relatively big like think about like Golden State when when people thought Curry was really soft he couldn’t guard was like it doesn’t matter because Clay’s a big ass guard who could lock it up so that’s why like yesterday when we were talking
I thought a good spot for Trey like would be Detroit because K could cover for what he can the funny thing is I was trying to find a way to reunite Quinn Snider and Donovan Mitchell in Atlanta but that would be the problem you’d have two small guards no matter if you traded
Deon or Trey and I don’t think that would work unless you did some crazy ass trade with both of those guys but it would be cool to see Mitchell in um quen in Atlanta guy that they’re going to need to trade oh we can move on to him next I
Got a spot for him before we move on I did see a thing though I said the Lakers might be interested in going after one of the two guards Trey or Deonte I think deante would fit better I think Trey would drive crazy on defense to the point where where he
Would help their half court offense I think I think his defense would be such a liability that LeBron would just retire yeah because you can’t hide LeBron and Trey like you can’t hide two players he already has right LeBron would have to play D in the regular season and be
Pissed all right who would they trade I mean to Atlanta I would take Jaylen Hood chafino because you just drafted that point guard so I want a point guard back um Russell’s contract I I stay away from H all cost like I I would rather let the deal fall
Out than get D’Angelo Russell on my team I don’t like I do not like that dude I do not like how he plays basketball I agree somebody I mean you have you have players there I mean like ruy could be a player R hood chafino and whatever picks you have available none
But I don’t think at that’s not enough to entice Atlanta uhuh it would have to be like a three teamer again where yeah where somebody might want DLo or ruy haimura or Jackson Hayes or something like that but yeah Atlanta’s got to do something they they can’t just keep
Running it back with the only case you could say is hey when um everyone counted Minesota out after their first year together last year and now look what happened but it’s not the same with Atlanta I know this is Quinn’s first um you’re fully in charge with
This set of guys basically but I don’t think this is going to magically fix itself with the guys they have they have redundant guards they’re they’re just kind of stuck like you said capella has been on the way out John Collins was on the Block for 10 years his whole career
Before he finally got traded capella is a very movable asset in my opinion because you already have an immediate replacement form him I forget how to pronounced that dude a conu I think his name is I love how that dude plays basketball he’s an immediate replacement
So like to me I would straight up be trying to use capella to sweeten the pot with a Trey Young trade and I think you get Dallas involved because everyone I mean capella to Dallas has been floated for years and it apparently almost happened and people
Like Derek Lively right now but I’m just not convinced Lively is gonna hold up in the playoffs because the West is Big you need bigs and having a rookie Center going against ad or yic well could I agree with that but like he’s a rental as long as people understand that he’s a
Rental you know what I mean like to me the team that tra makes that trade if that’s the package coming out of Atlanta it has to be a tra a team that is like right there like I just need that one little thing to get us over the edge
Like a developmental team it wouldn’t help I don’t believe so what do you do you think Atlanta should quote unquote blow it up or retool on the Fly I believe you have enough Talent on that team to retool on the fly to your point you just said about Minnesota like
Atlanta can’t turn it around like Minnesota did the reason that that’s true is because we operated under the assumption Minnesota could not turn it around because big cat was not capable of doing that luckily for Big Cat Anthony Edwards said well this is my
Team now I’m the dog on this team do as I do as I do there’s nobody in Atlanta that’s going to do that for for Trey like Deon can be a leader but he’s not a star right that’s a good point because Trey and big cat are similar in terms of
What they’re worth to a team in terms of contending but yeah they don’t have an Anthony Edwards and honestly as much as we make fun of goar and I make fun of goar Atlanta doesn’t really have a guy like that like Capella’s a good Rim Runner but you don’t
Have where where Minnesota has the pieces to contend soon I think if not this year soon Atlanta doesn’t Atlanta is not one guy away or two guys away I don’t think you can and this is a very first take thing to say but I don’t
Think you can win a title with Trey as your best player I agree with that yeah I agree with that man how do you feel about try of Boston because I could see Atlanta being ridiculously good with Jaylen Brown on that starting lineup and I could see
Boston being good with Trey on that lineup i’ rather have jayen brown left on Boston I just don’t like Jaylen Brown and Tatum anymore like I just don’t see that group working that’s the split if they don’t win the title this year and watching them play the Pistons last
Night they have so much talent but something’s just off and not like broken but like you should be killing that team at home and I know the Pistons are they had a lot more to play for than Boston did but it’s just weird no matter who they
Have and they’re starting five is legit but um that’s besides the point I yeah Jaylen Brown in Atlanta would be a good fit and he’s been rumored for so long I have the answer to your Boston question I understand why that team plays that way most teams operate under the
Assumption like we are going to run a structured system for a majority of the game and when we need it Our Stars take over that’s just kind of common knowledge in basketball like that’s how Superstars are made they do that backwards like let’s let our Stars try
To go off and once we establish that they’re not for today let’s play Team Basketball the problem is they don’t always know what they’re supposed to be doing as a team so it just looks like flat basketball that coaching that too and Atlanta has good coaching so going back
To Atlanta I mean you have Quinn Snyder who’s a win now kind of coach and especially in the regular season so if you’re not putting up wins with Quinn Snider in the East I don’t think that’s on Quinn Snider I think that’s on the
Roster it is it is but also you said it earlier like stylistically some of them guys just don’t go together like dejonte and Trey just on paper does not look good that’s like a 2K that’s a 2K team that’s a 2K team on a person who don’t
Draft that well because even on 2K I don’t know that I would want those two it’ be harder to get stops which
The Atlanta Hawks have had many sources around the league that truly feel one of their 2 guards will be traded. The Atlanta Hawks have 2 very valuable trade pieces in Trae Young and Dejounte Murray that many teams around the league will be calling for. We break down what Guard should be traded and what teams make the most sense. Trae Young ideas with teams looking for a superstar. We also look at teams that may want Dejounte Murray as a key piece to a championship push.
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