Is a Pascal Siakam, Sacramento Kings Trade Really Dead? | Locked On Kings

Is a Pascal Siakam, Sacramento Kings Trade Really Dead? | Locked On Kings

Is the Pascal SE yakum trade to the Sacramento Kings really truly dead I don’t know if I believe that I still think there will be some conversations between the Kings and Toronto Raptors involving SE yakum as we get closer and closer to the trade deadline but maybe

It’s only a matter of time before trade talks truly fully end because of what the kings are and aren’t willing to include in a trade Sean Woodley from the lockon Raptors podcast joins me to break down everything Kings and SE yakum right here on lockon KS you are locked on Kings your daily

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Fanduel.com lockon to get started my name is Matt George I have the privilege of being your host here I’m a Sacramento Sports Anchor and reporter for abc10 news and uh yeah we don’t need to talk too much or any more at all about what happened between the Kings and the New

Orleans Pelicans uh on uh or last night on Sunday so let’s talk about what happened on Friday between the Kings and the Toronto Raptors yes the Kings beat the Raptors which was great we talked about that you can go and check out the full postgame conference where or rather

Postgame podcast where uh we discussed that Kings win and spent a lot of time also discussing all of the Pascal SE yakum trade rumors surrounding the Sacramento Kings uh and and the Raptors before that game took place now I shared with you there that I feel that

Even though it was reported that the kings were out or were were removing themselves from the Pascal SE yakum trade sweep Stakes it was reported that Friday actually like an hour or so before the the game between the Kings and Raptors took place even though that report might have been valid

Or might still be valid right now I I don’t believe there’s just so much smoke around seaka plus seaka might be the best player available for the Kings to trade for if they’re truly looking to add a a a a major piece to help make

Them a contender this year like I I I don’t believe it’s completely dead I still think there will be conversations between the Kings and the Raptors involving a a pascal SE yakum trade but are those trade talks unnecessary right will they all go the same way which is

Essentially hey we want SE yakum what do you want for SE yakum we want Keegan Murray okay well that’s not happening okay well then we’re not making a deal or the Kings aren’t willing to pay Pascal seak the max like it was it was reported and that means pascot zakum is

Not GNA want to resign to the Kings so the kings are not going to make a deal for seum for anything of of significant value maybe the writing is on the wall that nothing is going to get done but there’s still so much time between now

And the trade deadline I still do think that at at the very least conversations are going to reopen and uh and be Revisited but instead of kind of talking my way through it myself I thought let’s get the Raptor’s perspective on this entire thing Sean Woodley amazing host of the lockon

Raptors podcast he joined me before on lockon Kings he joined me last year when we talked a lot about a potential ogan anobi trade in addition to the Kings potentially having his interested Pascal seak so these the kings are raptors they’ve been connected for a little

While so Sean joins me here on lockon Kings we’ll talk our way through the The seak Sweep akes what he thinks the Raptors will want or demand for seum if the king should be willing to give that up if the king should be willing to pay

Seak the max we talk about a lot of stuff here I hope you enjoy it Sean Woodley here from lockon Raptors joining me on lockon Kings all the chatter around the Sacramento Kings and Toronto Raptors game on Friday had everything to do with what was happening off the court

Pascal SE yakum directly connected to the Sacramento Kings in trade talks we know the Kings have had interest in a couple of raptors players for a while one of them no longer available because he’s in New York Shawn Woodley from the lock on Raptors podcast he and I have

Have sat down together before and talked about these two players and possible traits and we mainly focused on OG because the possibility of Pascal seum just never really seemed like it was it was that probable or the Kings would be willing to give up what it would take to

Get Pascal lo and behold here the kings are in a position where they’re reportedly aggressively pursuing Pascal out and then in the same day they pull out of the SE yakum sweep Stakes well I have spec uh skepticism that the kings are truly out but that’s where we stand

Right now Sean Woodley back here on lockon Kings from the lockon Raptors podcast to help us kind of break down this situation and discuss what it would take in his mind to get seak maybe we’ll figure out where the negotiations broke down or if this has everything to do

With SE yakum and and and his unwillingness to to sign an extens with the kings are wanting more than the kings are willing to offer there’s so many branches to this tree Sean but what was your reaction initially to that kind of 12 hours of randomness of the Kings

Building up momentum to lakum and then they’re out of the sweep Stakes apparently yeah first off thanks for having me Matt nice to chat with you um yeah I think for me I didn’t really I wasn’t all that moved by any of it on Friday like the Shams reporting about

The Kings being quote unquote serious you know seriously in talks or whatever the the word serious was thrown around I kind of think that word a should mean something and frankly I don’t think unless Keegan Murray is on the table that the talks can get serious I I just

I kind of think that’s where it stops and it’s not because uh you know I think the the Raptors are these hard-headed people who aren’t going to trade their players and they hang on to them for dear life no I think they value their own guys and I think the Raptors kind of

Have the hammer in this one where they can just extend Pascal SE yakum and have an all NBA player who’s playing really good basketball by the way just be on their team for the next handful of years maybe look to trade him down the line if

It lines up or just have him kind of grow with this newly assembled core they have with Emanuel quickley and Scotty Barnes kind of at the at the Forefront among the young guys RJ Barrett’s playing incredible basketball since coming over in the trade as well and all

Of a sudden SE yakum really fits on this team and offers scoring punch that they really need around all of the other pieces they have and so I think it’s going to take a massive offer to get them to move off of Pascal and I think

They will be very happy as much as all of the reporting has been that they’re ready to push him out and they don’t want him on the team look they flirted with parting ways with Kyle Larry like a dozen times the last decade and it always ended up circling back to you

Know what you’re our guy we love you we’re going to keep you around because you’re valuable and good and I kind of think looking to how the Kyle situ ation played out over many many years in Toronto in the last decade is pretty informative of how this could play out

With Pascal I don’t think they’re under any obligation to move him because all the reporting is that Pascal wants to be in Toronto and so barring someone like a Keegan Murray being on the table I I really don’t see this getting over the finish line and if Keegan’s not in in

The conversations again that’s where the term serious kind of falls on deaf ears for me touching on on on what you said there about the Raptors being willing or or being able to just extend SE yakum and and not having to to make a move do the Raptors really want to do that

Though are they really okay with that based off of where their franchise is right now the direction that they’re headed and these reports now granted these reports don’t have to always 100% be accurate trade season is a lot of smoke and you’re trying to find the actual fire right but the reports have

Been like hey the the Raptors are are trying to move quickly on a SE yakum trade here they’re trying to get a deal done and and clearly like I mean I don’t know about how long OG future was in Toronto but to me their willingness to eventually trade OG well maybe they felt

That they weren’t going to be able to keep him and and and and resign him but I think it was made clear like behind the scenes from what you hear that OG basically said yeah I’m not going to come back unless you give me the full

Max right so I think that kind of pushed their hand a little bit understood and maybe like what if that’s the same situation with seaka do you think one like kind of a two-part question here one do the Raptors really want to bring seaka back and and and based off their

Current timeline does it make sense to you and then number two is are the are the Raptors willing to pay him a max deal or close to a max deal based off of the timeline again I I think you know based on the way they’ve kind of carried

Themselves with Pascal kind of dangling him for the last year or so I think if you gave them truth serum they’d say hey we would probably prefer to move Pascal for like a young bankable piece we can pair with Scotty Barnes I don’t think they’re interested in moving him for

Picks this was exactly what we saw with the OG trade where where you know everyone got all up in arms oh how could they not accept the draft picks from the Memphis Grizzlies oh no they want real players they want players to pair with Scotty Barnes who is having a star leap

This season is already in year three he’s going to get expensive in a year and a half and they want players who can run with Scotty Barnes and I do think it’s been proven that Pascal SE yakum can in fact run with Scotty Barnes and be part of a pretty fruitful combination

There obviously that the age is a thing I I think you know again if you sort of ranked their their options here moving Pascal for a real bankable sort of future projectable piece you compare with Scotty Barnes number one number two though is just keep Pascal SE yakum and

Not trade him for a bunch of stuff that’s not really GNA help them build a real team around Scotty Barnes and so I think given the market right now given all of the implications that Pascal would rather stay in Toronto and won’t resign with some team he gets traded to

I do think that points towards option one not really being on the table right are you going to get from the Pacers enough to make it worth it are you going to get a Keegan Murray from the Kings to make it worth it I have my doubts and

Frankly we’ll get into it I don’t think the Kings should put Keegan Murray on the table for Pascal SE yakum and so given all that with option one being off the table I do think option two of you know what we’ve had success in the past of retaining our guys giving them Runway

To work and now there’s actually a team that makes sense the OG Pascal Scotty Trio had run its course it didn’t work and reassembling the roster around those three guys to make it work was was going to be too tall in order without moving one of them well they moved one of them

They got Emanuel quickley who has completely transformed this team’s offense they’re the number two offense in the NBA since the trade happened that’ll come down surely but they you saw it on Friday night the Raptors can score now in a way that they just couldn’t before and quickly fits

Beautifully next to Scotty Barnes and Pascal seaka I also think the Scotty Pascal Dynamic there used to be a lot of overlap between them I think that’s kind of gone now Scotty kind of operates as a wing he is like a 39% high volume three-point shooter all of a sudden and

He plays small ball five which kind of go perfectly playing off of what SE yakum does as like a playmaking post up uh po post Hub at the four right I think the fit there is a lot cleaner than it was a year ago before Scotty made this

Jump and before quickly came to town and I think we’re seeing over the three in one start the Raptors have had here since the trade that okay this might actually be something and so while maybe right now keeping Pascal isn’t top of mind their number one option I do think

As the month progresses towards February 8th they could could be compelled to you know say hey this actually kind of works and the history of the Raptor franchise suggests they’re willing to change on the fly if different information presents itself right they were about to ship off Kyle Lowry back in 20134 after

The Rudy Gay trade and then they started winning a whole bunch of games and they were like you know what maybe we keep this thing together and that only culminated in a seven-year run that ended up with an NBA championship I don’t think this franchise operates like

A lot of others do I don’t think they’re compelled by pick packages and so given of the options I I do think if there’s not a premium Jaylen Johnson Keegan Murray level player coming back for Pascal seum they will go go the route they’ve done before where they reup

Their guy even if the age is not ideal I’ll note Kyle Lowry was a year older than Pascal SE yakum was is right now when they reup him back in 201617 after he looked around the league it seemed like a divorce was imminent and then there was nothing there he came back and

All of a sudden they go and win a championship a couple years later so I do think like I said the Kyle stuff’s pretty informative for Pascal and I think the franchise’s track record you know there’s a lot being mirrored from the past right now that I think we can

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NBA I’m aware that I’m probably throwing up a l a lob that you’re GNA dunk on my head here which is maybe necessary for for kind of Kings fans to hear like every every team when they enter a trade machine or trade deadline they always

Look at what riches can I get for my Rags type thing and and I don’t mean that as a disrespect to to any players but like that’s the reality of the situation so let’s get your honest feedback on the idea of a Barnes herder Davon Mitchell package those are the three names that

The Kings reportedly have made available not too hard to figure out why and in whether it’s a pascal SE yakum deal or any deal period involving the Toronto Raptors why don’t or do any of those three Intrigue the Raptors or yourself and if not why I I think if anyone does it’s

Probably Hur her but it’s not been the same year for him this season and frankly the Raptors went from you know a week and a half ago having probably the worst guard rotation in basketball to now kind of having like a pretty solid group of Emanuel quickley RJ Barrett

Gary Trent Jr and Dennis shuder who were all playing awesome right now in their newly defined roles and so I’m not sure there’s like an obvious fit there for Kevin herder I think the Raptors would probably given their their DRS just retain Gary Trent Jr for something less

Than what Kevin herder makes right now and just have that be their sort of bench shooter coming off the bench and sort of working into in between transitional lineups and stuff like that I don’t think herder would be someone that you project to be a starter for the

Raptors if that trade were to go down as much as I like herder I just don’t know if it fits quite as well now that quickley and Barrett are on the team um when it comes to Harrison Barnes like that’s very clearly just salary ballast right yes Harrison barns would be like a

Nice fit just like okay he fills in for Pascal he shoots some threes he plays some defense he does all of it at a lesser level than Pascal does because that’s what happens when you’re in your 30s like you know Harrison Barnes has been around a long time he’s not the

Same player he used to be and I I just he’s not nearly the dynamic offensive player that Pascal is and so I think the Raptors would be kind of swimming uphill a little bit with their newly refined really fun working offense to throw Harrison Barnes in there as the

Pascal nominal replacement not to mention three years of those guys at what a combined two years Beyond this one I suppose at a combined 33 million bucks like that’s not cheap and I think the Raptors would probably just rather have paseli AUM on their team if they

You know had to go that way and Davon Mitchell I’m sorry I just don’t think Davon Mitchell is a very good NBA basketball player and so I don’t see and again he would be like the fifth string guard on the Raptors I don’t see them being very intrigued there and that’s

Why I keep on coming back to Keegan Murray that dude fits the bill that dude fits the quickly Barett bill of okay young player projectable does some stuff that would fit on this team right away and can probably grow into something more and I just don’t see the kings

Ponying that up and like I said I don’t really think they should and so barring like if I’m looking at the roster and trying to figure out other guys that can kind of be tossed into a deal here to make it more palatable for the Raptors you know Malik monks appending UFA I

Don’t think the Raptors are going to be line like eager to go and pay him a ton of money when again they’ve just reordered their guard rotation that feels like a tough one as much as I love Malik Monk on the Raptors and have wanted him on the Raptors for years I

Don’t think that makes a ton of sense considering a contractual situation and so yeah barring ke Murray being in there I I I just don’t really see it happening between the Kings and the Raptors and hey maybe you’re maybe you think they’re more likely to put Keegan on the table

Than I am um but I it doesn’t seem like they are and frankly again for their team and their needs I’m not sure this is the deal that I would make if I’m Sacramento either yeah Keegan I I don’t think is anywhere close to this deal and

I think this is where negotiations are breaking down not just with the Raptors but with almost every team they’re trying to negotiate with because the kings are he’s really good you should keep him he’s good right the kings are looking to to to acquire a contending

Piece or a big piece to help them become contenders this year at a concern that teams like Oklahoma City and Minnesota and others are starting to pass them up but they’re I mean you don’t want to give up so early on a on a on a second-year player like hean I know they

Did it with Tyrese it’s landed them to mon sabonis so they’re a good situation with that but of course look what Tyrese is doing over in in Indiana I have this scenario in my head Sean because the the Raptor’s front office was here in Sacramento OB ly we can imagine there

Was a meeting between the Raptor’s front office and the King’s front office to some extent and I have this idea that they’re sitting in this gigantic purple uh conference room sitting around a big table and the conversations begin and messai says Keegan Murray and Monty says

No and then both sides just sit there at the table and stare at each other for the next hour because that that’s where it doesn’t just just doesn’t go further than that so both texting Shams while they’re at it like it’s over happening yeah they’re the Raptors refus to work

With us jerks um I so I mean I could spew forever and my listeners have heard me spew forever as to why you just don’t trade Keegan Murray at this point in time but why do you from your perspective the Raptor’s perspective think man the Kings like as good as

Pascal is the king should not be including Keegan in a pascal trade to me it just comes down to the fit between Pascal and deonis sabonis I don’t really think it’s there I think there too much overlap I think they’re both guys who like to operate from the post I think

They’re both guys who are really nice as like playmaking offensive hubs but I’m not sure Pascal at this point in his career is like the type of Defender who can hold up and sort of Mak sabonis even more palatable as like a backline rim protector I don’t think Pascal really

Has in to play small ball five anymore um you know he he’s someone who is like a really nice perimeter Defender can stand in front of dudes and stay in front of slippery guards and whatnot he’s really good as just like a rotational smart Team Defender but I

Don’t think he’s going to be the sort of helper next to a saone bonus that really makes that defensive front court all that viable and I think it’s sort of uh you know you’re just kind of getting a little bit too much of the same from

Them on the offensive end for you to get the full impact of either and so I think for me you know the guy who always made sense to me from the Raptors for the Kings was OG like OG on this team would rock like sliding in there next to H

Shooting heavy backourt with dearen Fox and working off of deus sabonis working from the elbows finishing off plays as a baseline cutter and LOB threat like that’s OG’s bag and so I thought that was the move for them I I just don’t see it with Pascal especially considering

They have to pay him probably a Max this summer and I don’t know if you can really go about when you’re the Sacramento Kings locking yourself in to a fox sabona SE yakum big three with limited means to work around them as the second apron comes in I just think

That’s probably a little untenable and you know maybe you could sell yourself on hey the kings are good right now he’s a rental he helps them win this season you figure it out if you have a shot you have a 2% chance to win the Western

Conference you go all in for it and you try to make it happen and get pasel seaka but I just I don’t see SE yakum within this team context really lifting the Kings up to nuggets level or Wolves level or thunder level if you’re trying to really you know punch with the

Biggest you know heaviest hitters in the Western Conference and I I’m saying this as like one of the most foremost Pascal cakam officios there is but I also understand like Pascal is a difficult guy to work into a team kind of on the fly in the middle of the season in

Particular right like he’s got a particular set of skills he’s like Liam NES and taken he’s got like the the sort of you know it’s just you can’t just drop him into a team context and hope okay this is gonna work in half a season it’s goingon to be fine when you’ve got

Something so well established in the form of fox and sabonis as a partnership as well um so yeah you know a team like Indiana makes sense because they can plop SE yakum in and just be like a supercharged version of Obi toppen and him and halberton will make sweet sweet

Basketball music and it’ll be awesome I I don’t know if the sabonis SE yakum Duo works as much as Fox SE yakum would be incredible I would love to watch that all of Pascal’s best times as an NBA player have come playing alongside a dynamic guard Kyle Lowry the best of

Fred Van vet and hopefully very soon Emanuel quickly here um but yeah it just it feels a little bit too tricky of a fit for the Kings to do it in the middle of a season where it might be their one shot to make it work with before he goes

On to somewhere else this summer and yeah the the idea of locking that Trio in feels a little Rich for me when Keegan Murray could just become like a third guy in that Trio and I think his defense and the leap he’s made on that end has been pretty important and pretty

Telling of what that Trio could look like down the line I think that’s probably something the king should lean on more than going all in on this season with seak and and tying themselves into a lot of Financial and contractual burdens going forward this episode of

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With FanDuel official partner of the NFL there was a report as to one of the reasons why things kind of broke down and ended was because the kings were unwilling to resign SE yakum to a max deal which I’m I’m aligned in the the line of thinking with the Sacramento

Kings there especially with the idea that that they’re GNA try and bring back and and have to pay Malik monk after this offseason we see how important Malik is to this king’s team so I understand Sacramento Sacramento’s hesitation to sign Pascal to to a Max extension I’ll ask you this regardless

Of the circumstances whether it’s in Toronto in Sacramento Indiana wherever do you think Pascal seum is a max player like a team should comfortably be willing to pay him that kind of money I think it’s got to be the right context like I think the Raptors should be

Comfortable paying him the max it gets a little tricky down the line but I don’t think having yakob P’s money on the deal on the books for two years from now should be what keeps you from signing Pascal SE yakum who I think right now all things considered is having like his

Third best season as an NBA player this is a guy who’s made to all NBA teams I think he’s actually playing better this season than he did even in his first all NBA season back in 201920 when Kyle Larry got robbed he should have made it

Ben Simmons what are we doing but that’s for another day that’s for my podcast uh but like Pascal is just he’s fit so beautifully into the construct of this team and adapted on the Fly Right like this is a guy everything flowed through him over the last couple Seasons he was

The Beall end all of this team’s offense gotty Barnes takes a leap they reor organize things with Darko rakovich coming in running a more sort of movement heavy offense a lot of shooting is like required in this offense something Pascal has not typically been super great with you know he he’s on a

Really great heater of L shootting like 45% since mid December but um you know it’s he struggled to start the season and and he’s just really kind of assimilated into what the Raptors are doing so beautifully I think they can justify it if you’re another team you know I think the Pacers totally

100% you go on Max Pascal seaka I think that’s like a perfect match made in heaven between him and Tyrese halberton if you’re the Sixers I think if you have the max money to burn and you can make Pascal want to work with Nick nurse

Again by all means throw the max at him that could work awesomely as well but if you’re a team that is sort of in the king spot where you’re pretty good but you need to kind of have that extra final puzzle piece to lock it all in I

Just don’t know if this version of the Kings is that puzzle piece team for Pascal um you know he’s he’s a really really good basketball player but he’s also a particular basketball player and you have to have the right context around him to really make it worth your

While and I think the Raptors have gotten closer to having that and making that a worthwhile investment I don’t know if the kings are in that spot right now well like I said at the beginning I don’t fully believe the kings are truly 100% out I do think we will go back or

Hear these teams going back to the negotiation table or maybe even a phone call or two happening between these teams again a little checkin whether it’s the context of the the Raptors not finding necessarily what they want for SE yakum which you’re saying they they would have no problem in just resigning

Him and keeping him around so maybe that’s the bad a bad tactic for the Sacramento Kings to try and wait them out or maybe the Kings come back to the table out of a little more desperation seeing what what’s happening around them looking around and going SE yakum is the

Only star difference making player that we could acquire this year if we really want to make that swing that doesn’t really seem like Monty McNair’s style at least so far but I mean who knows if uh if if the heat gets to him a little bit with everything going on at this trade

Deadline so either way I think this will be Revisited again but it might amount to nothing as as Shawn Woodley comes back here on the lockdown Kings podcast second time in his many years and crushes Kings fans hopes and dreams of a of a big Marquee Kings and Raptors trade

Damn it Sean should I start walking around with one of those like Grim reer Grim Reaper SES in like a cloak when I come on the podcast just uh foret your logic take our poor decent or slightly below average players and give us your star that’s what needs to happen here

That the trade machine says the trade works so accept it damn it that that’s what that’s what you need to come here and do is give us what we want we’re in Sacramento and we always get what we want in Sacramento clearly man uh yeah I I hope that uh you

Know cooler heads prevail here I hope everyone’s not too pressed every time I come on the podcast I hope I’ll be welcome back to talk about some kind of trade speculation down the line uh but in the meantime thanks for having me on man big thank you to Sean for joining me

Here on the lock on Kings podcast hey maybe if you were hoping for a king’s pcal SE yakum trade maybe that crushed you a little bit I’m sorry if it did so but sometimes reality is is hard but that doesn’t mean Shan’s 100% right that doesn’t mean that I’m 100% right hey

Maybe maybe the Raptors are a little more desperate to move seum than than both of us realize so a trade is still possible and like I said I still think negotiations and conversations are going to happen I don’t think anything is going to come of it I think a seak to

Sacramento deal is it’s not dead but I think it’s highly unlikely but who knows a lot of things can change this is a fluid situation trade season is crazy as it is so a lot of things could happen that suddenly make this a deal that that

Either team uh wants to make or maybe both teams want to make at some point as we get closer and closer to the trade deadline so we will have to see of course any rumors involving the Kings and seak any actual trades that go down for the Kings and anybody we’ll discuss

Here at great detail on the lockon Kings podcast and the best part about the lockon podcast network is when hosts like uh like myself and and Sean and and so many other hosts in our Network can get together to discuss topics and and and things that involve two teams we can

Really get down to the weeds of it uh from from two local experts that you can uh you you respect and that you know know what they’re talking about so I appreciate Sean for being willing to to come here on lockon Kings podcast and and discuss that at great deal we’ll see

What happens appreciate your support here on the podcast can’t wait to have you join me on the next episode tomorrow the Kings start their five-game road trip with a game against the Detroit Pistons so hopefully I beg after a king’s win I’ll be coming on the with a

Postgame podcast for you so I hope you will join me for that until then my name is Matt George you’ve been listening to the locked on Kings podcast part of the locked on podcast now Work

Matt George is joined by Locked On Raptors host Sean Woodley to break down the Pascal Siakam to the Sacramento Kings trade rumors and why talks have broken down and potentially ended.

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