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The Suns Are One of the Worst 4th Quarter Team in The NBA… How Did This Happen?



The Suns Are One of the Worst 4th Quarter Team in The NBA… How Did This Happen?

Opening odds for a championship we at plus 1200 uh opening odds for Western Conference Finals Champion we’re at plus 1,000 uh right now they have the fourth best odds in the NBA in terms of Championship odds only the Celtics the nuggets and the Bucks have better odds

And in terms of the Western Conference uh they’re right behind the Denver Nuggets and surprisingly and I brought this up recently but surprisingly the Phoenix Suns are at plus 750 third the third best understand of the suns are ahead of the Thunder and the Timberwolves in this well what what are

We missing people believe in the big three people believe I feel like that year with the the Lakers uh and and Russell Westbrook like they were just they were not good the whole season and like their odds really never shifted they are always like they always still had the second or third

Best odds to win the West I think there’s you know again we we want to see a longer stretch from the Suns with their big three um there’s some defensive issues of course and then there’s just some issues about how the offense is functioning right now a lot

Of iso a lot of standing still not a lot of movement role players outside of Eric Gordon for stretches have not done well it’s you Grayson Allen by the way has has actually I’ll say Grayson Allen has shot the ball well it’s had some big games so I should I should in include

Him in that as well I have a question about the Suns that I saw this stat a couple days ago I’m not sure if it’s changed but they had a minus uh uh- 16.1 net rating in the fourth which is the worst net rating in the fourth since

They’ve been tracking this in 1996 for the worst fourth quarter offense since they’ve been tracking this what is that about you’ve two you one of the great scorers of all time you have another guy who’s one of the great scorers in the league right now how is that possible

Again I think it’s I think it’s a function of their offense and I was I was kind of praising the offense uh even all the way to the point where you know Zack low and I did my podcast at start the season I went back on his podcast I

Think it was late November or early December they had a little winning streak and and things looked good and I was praising the spacing because they always had Booker and Durant next to each other so if you gave help and you doubled it happened and I I I just think

Right now defenses are just loading to them so hard and the game typically slows down in the fourth quarter um by the way why does the game slow down in the fourth quarter why do teams for 44 minutes play one way and then they get a

Lead and then for four minutes they play a different way it’s weird yeah I think we talked about this bazula there’s this idea in Jiu-Jitsu he’s a big big Jiu-Jitsu guy there’s this idea in Jiu-Jitsu Jiu-Jitsu where the strategy is you start at the ankles and you work

Your way up you go to the knees you go to the waist you go to this the Torso the chest the shoulders eventually you get to the neck and head and that’s how you win and there’s this idea that is the the closer you get to Victory the closer you are to defeat

Because the closer you move your way up to the neck your opponent has the ability to shift and so in Jiu-Jitsu this idea of like holding on to Victory well that’s when you’re going to lose it’s a general stat that’s a general statement about interesting because the fansar basketball fans feel

It everyone in the arena feels it I it’s it’s interesting to me yeah

In this clip, JJ Redick talks about how Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, Bradley Beal and The Phoenix Suns are struggling closing games.

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24 Comments

  1. We mention in the video that of course we have to see a larger sample size from their big 3. But with Phoenix being a favorite, we feel it's important to still analyze this team as it is today. Don't worry Suns fans, we still very much believe in this team.

  2. No real PG. Someone like Rondo would be amazing for this team…. which, got me thinking – did he retire? I don't remember hearing anything about it.

  3. Durant is one of the most overrated players in history all the skill no leadership and not clutch . Ok he won with a warriors team wow😂😂 Wiggins did too . But he always gets a pass , dude is a crybaby

  4. Beal has been lost for decades! Dude still cant figure it out with KD n Book.
    Beal wanted that bag and he got it!
    Too bad he dont know how to win from all those losing seasons in Washington 😂😂😂

  5. None of the Suns' stars are legit first options on a title team. Booker and Beal usually shrink in big moments. Durant doesn't shrink but he's never been a consistent close-out guy in his career. The Suns' most clutch and best closeout guy on either side of the ball is… checks notes …Grayson Allen. Uh oh.

  6. No true point guard to set them up for pick and roll. Not an excuse. As much they playing in the NBA for 10 years! They act like a deer in headlights and play victim ball. No, you shoot, I’ll shoot next. Then rolls eyes. I can only imagine when they lose games. Do they group together and say my fault in the locker room? Do they watch film, together? And see HOW bad they are? Do they see how Bad they can set screens? They leave One alone in isolation? No determination and will! I see during the last 8 mins! Then there’s the coach, Vogel. ONE word. DISAPPOINT! Plus the 200 million assistant coach lmao. Like we need him. Get them ALL TOGETHER COACH!! And pray together, eat together, train together! No, championship team should lose hanging their heads up and blame other then have social media distanced them. They should have each other’s back no matter what. That’s what I missed with Mikal and Cam Johnson. They Win As BROTHERS AND LOSE AS BROTHERS 😞

  7. Suns have a defensive minded coach and they’re still not playing great defense. He’s not drawing up any plays to keep momentum going and the big 3 don’t play together, so much isoball. Idk why KD and book are never in a pick and roll.

  8. Isn't it obvious that the game slows down at the end of games because the team that's ahead wants to limit their opponent's possessions?

  9. Maybe it’s the fact that KD is not as good as people say he is. Neither of them are really exceptional defenders. So a cohesive defensive team will beat a team that’s just trying to one on one outscore you.

  10. It's because Devin Booker isn't a point guard so ball-handling in the fourth quarter when the game has slowed down becomes tough

  11. That's an interesting theory but I just think they get cold feet and can't close out a game.

  12. When a team takes a 20 point lead in the 1st quarter it always feel like they might loose the edge and let the victory slip.

  13. Maybe it's the coaching.. run quality plays. Also, good plays takes chemistry. Defense is really effort, energy and youth and a intelligence to box out, ect. And I stayed at a holiday Inn express last night.

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