Transcript below.
“You know, there’s a lot of people in Golden State and a lot of fans that have split views on Steve Kerr and saying, well, you know, he should be developing the younger guys and playing the younger guys. And I don’t think you get that last championship if you do that. It’s such a hard art form to develop young guys, but also try to win games at the same time. Not many teams can do that.
You know, Kuminga is a guy that’s super athletic, can get his nose above the rim. But he’s a guy that needs the ball in his hands. He’s a, you know, let me get in my bag guy, give me the ball. Well, you know, Steph Curry’s right next to you and you’re not taking his touches. Klay is still Klay regardless. And then you’ve got CP3 off the bench, who’s a big playmaker, and he has the ball in his hands. Where do you think you’re going to fit in, Kuminga?
To me, you can find a lot of easy baskets in that system just by cutting and hitting the o-boards. If you feel like you’re getting the rough end of the stick or like, oh, I’m not getting touches. Steve won’t run shit for me. I can’t get in my bag. Go and find it yourself. I know for a fact playing with Steph and Klay and these guys, you’re going to get two to three easy looks like literally catch the ball and put in the basket because the defense is so attuned to try and stop them. And I think Kuminga is just a bad fit for that roster with those guys.
Now, all those people that say it’s time to develop the young guys, well, then the discussion has to be had. Do you move off Steph, Klay, Draymond, and start developing young guys? You’ve had four championships in 10 years and everyone’s losing their f*cking minds over there. You’re going to have bad years.
You know, you get two chips in a decade? You’re batting above average, you’re doing really well. Talk to the Detroit Pistons, talk to the New Orleans Pelicans, talk to some of these teams, Sacramento Kings. They’ll say, I’ll take one championship in the next decade to have three or four shitty years.
So you got to take that with a grain of salt with the Golden State Warriors. And they’re so used to winning and being on that pedestal that I think it’s kind of blinded a lot of [fans]. It’s not as easy as that.”
by taygads
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I hear what he is saying but I think he is missing some key points. Too many people think this is 206 Warriors. Where Steph and Klay going nuclear every other game is most of the offense. And everything else is essentially just role players fitting in. Steph and Klay aren’t that anymore. They NEED what Kuminga brings to the table. What he brings to the table should be a feature (over time)
If they just want role players who just cut and and move the ball and shoot open shots, go ahead and trade for Dfs and Royse O’Neal then. Go get some system role players. It’s silly to try and make Kuminga a system guy when that’s not who he is.
Bogut is always trying so hard to stay relevant. And looks like some on r/warriors is desperate for any anti Kuminga propaganda with the usual ‘he doesn’t fit the system’ cliched arguments.
We won in 2022 due to a mix of both underpaid sub-30 veterans (Otto, GP2) and developed young talent (Jordan Poole). We don’t win without both those pieces. The 2 timeline thing was always a myth because Kuminga and Moody were never the reason we lost games, they’ve played above their contract plenty of times. They lost playing time to Ty Jerome and Anthony Lamb who are out of the league now. Did they help us win games even in the short term over the young guys?
Only guy who didn’t fit the timeline was James Wiseman because he was a historic bust. He’s gotten plenty of time on the Pistons and he looks terrible.
So dumb. The dumbness starts by saying klay is still klay. Klay still got lots to offer, but thinking they can still win the same way, with the same usage is dumb. Also Kuminga has shown plenty of ability to operate in the motion offense.
it’s pretty funny how many of you are mad at bogut but what he is saying is right and the game against the hawks was an indication of it.
kuminga needs the ball in his hands to be effective and he’s just not at the point where he’s an instant bucket every time he gets the ball. nor is he an instant bucket when a good defender is on him.
kerr changed the scheme last night by to include more wiggins bringing up the ball and steph giving screens to wigs/kuminga. that frees up their games because so much attention is given to steph.
remember the pass steph made? the through the needle pass ? the one where he had to direct kuminga to use klays screen and then cut for an easy bucket? kerrs system maximizes the gravity of both guys and it gets others easy buckets.
if kuminga did that every game, he would have so many easy buckets.
another case and point. remember jordan poole? look how hard it is for him to score now as opposed to when he was on the warriors. so many ppl thought he would be averaging 20+ a game, hes averaging 16…
I disagree with his assessment of JK.
JK is not a ” I can’t get in my bag” type of player because he doesn’t have that deep of a bag. He IS a guy that players HAVE to run plays for as he’s not a dominant iso guy that can create by himself. That’s why we see him succeed when they run plays for him, like when CP was doing so off the bench and Dray over the last game or two.
Love Bogut and he clearly knows the game a trillion times better than me, but I disagree with almost all of this. He said we don’t win 2022 while developing young guys, but we started Kuminga in half of the Grizzlies series and Moody got decent minutes in the WCF.
Sounds like someone who’s not actually watching, tbh
I was in agreement with Bogut until a few weeks ago. I still largely agree with the point that Kuninga needs the ball and is otherwise not very effective
But he is forcing the issue that they may need to change the offense for him
I still think he is best as a 6th man with most minutes without a Steph right now
This was my sane feeling about the odd Wiseman pick
To be good he needed to be ball dominate so unless he was showing star potential it was awkward
It turned out he was a total bust
Andrew Bogut is a huge clown
Great quote. Great perspective.
I will say, that “if you’re not getting touches, go and find them yourself” is something that GP2 has always been great at. Kuminga with his athleticism could probably have 6-8 points just on cuts or offensive boards every game because he just is that gifted. Great case in point was also last night when JK crashed and got a rebound and just did the damn thing coast to coast.
I do think there’s a give-and-take because it’s good for him to get reps doing more things, pushing the boundaries of his game, but I think the last month has been a good mix of him picking his spots and also being aggressive in finding those opportunities.