Draymond Green slams 65-game rule after Joel Embiid injured knee in win vs. 76ers | NBA | SPEAK
Okay context this year there’s been instilled a 65 game limit so that these players have to qualify in order to get MVP votes previously there was no limit it was collectively bargained just for context so Joy chime in and answer this because this is an incredibly polarizing
Topic glad to have youall here for it do you agree with Draymond Green’s comments yeah it’s tough I I don’t know if embiid played because of that but so I don’t know if I can agree with that but I do think that this is going to become another big conversation if it
Hasn’t already within the NBA because if you’re talking about the difference between someone being able to win the MVP because they missed 18 games instead of 17 okay if you’re and they had to play a minimum of 20 minutes in certain games like there’s a lot of different
Requirements if you’re talking about in the case of Tyrese halber missing out on all NBA honors because of injuries and that can trigger or something in his contract that could cost him up to $40 million this is going to become a really tense conversation and it already was a
Tense conversation and this is a product of load management which has existed for a very long time it goes all the way back to papovich and you know Tim Duncan and job and Tony Parker and and it got a bit out of control with players taking
Advantage uh in some ways I don’t want to say that some people weren’t injured but it became too much of a conversation you have SAR players missing big games you have Partners complaining you have sponsorships complaining and you have fans complaining which is fair you you
Spend a lot of money to go and watch players they’re the reason that the sport exists and they you know everybody doesn’t have the ability to go to every single game you save up you go watch a star they’re not in town they’re in town they’re not playing I get it I just
Think it’s really tough when you’re seeing players either play through an injury to get out there to you know hit a certain threshold and then injure themselves worse which is what Draymond is suggesting happen with Joel andb speed or in the case of halberton who having an unbelievable season but missed
So many games because of a you know injury that he isn’t able to qualify for something in his contract that could cost him $40 million that feels very heavy so I I see the player side of it but I also very much understand the other side of it I just think one side
Was had swung over here and there was an overcorrection over here and there’s probably somewhere more reasonable in the middle the reason I don’t see the player side is because it’s the player’s fault if the players would have been responsible from the jump and have exacerbated load management just
Completely perverted the intention of load management from the beginning we wouldn’t be in this situation and to take it away from Sports and make it real life when your parents don’t give you a curfew when you growing up we all been in these situations you show up at
12 show up at 12:30 show up at 1 show up at 2 am next thing you know you going to have a curfew if you would have just showed up when you were supposed to show up if they said hey just be back Shady by before midnight okay mom okay pops
Okay whatever the case may be but once you start to push the limit now they have to put in rules and restriction me that I don’t know Shady in this situation so I can’t feel bad for the players because it is the Players fault Andy you said something very eloquent
The the thing for me is injuries and pushing through them is part of the game that’s what I love sports I love sports because it’s not just how mentally tough are you how physically tough are you so if you can just tap when you want to tap
Because H we don’t care that much about playoff seating because now if you are even the 10th seed in the NBA you got a chance to make the playoffs cuz now we got playing games if you can just tap when you want to tap you’re removing the
Greatest element of sports which is all to me about the toughness are you Tough Enough Shady to push through the injury or are you going to get hurt best ability is availability big dog what you make and I love Draymond I don’t I don’t agree with Draymond right and I’m a
Player I’m one of them type of players that I’m gritty I love to play every game you know I think as players man we it’s like we don’t appreciate how good we really got it you know what I’m saying like like I just take myself back
To when I was trying to make it I would do any and everything to even get right A lot of these players on the NBA NFL they come from nothing and then I feel we get to a point like all right we ared no I give you example
Man since I retired I really understood what a what it what it means to be a fan I always played the game and okay there’s fans little kids you know snap but I never really understood when I retired all my friends I got more time
To talk to them my kids play with their kids we just having a good time and it was so many times where they were like yo man the the the my Sixers are playing somebody right and they saving they money right for this date a year in
Advance soon the the schedule drops and I’m thinking like for real you you actually doing that so then you get to the game and maybe your favorite player is not playing maybe he’s healthy he’s not playing low management how you think he feel right Kobe Bryant yeah Kobe I’m
A Kobe nut I love Kobe Kobe said the reason why I play every game like got play right cuz it’s somebody that heard all about me how great I was but they never get to see me play mhm so I want them to see Yo oh wow I get to see how
Great he is I talk you another great Michael Jordan though how great he is bro it was times of Seasons play 82 games 82 games 82 games 81 games 80 80 games every year he’s playing when he was 39 years old he played 82 games right so there’s no really excuse now
It’s like we so entitled I love the new rule I want my players to play I hated teammates that didn’t want they was healthy they didn’t want to really go play I ain’t feeling good right now what it’s Sports we going to be beat up that’s what that’s what we play the game
For that’s why we are making millions of dollars millions so I hate that they’re complaining about this I just love when when players you know fight it out now if you really injured and hurt then don’t play cuz your health is everything right this it’s a sport you know your
Health is everything but if you can play you can go and you a little banged up everybody’s gonna be banged up bro go out there and earn your money because y that’s why they paid you for it they the the way it works in sports I play you
Pay no more no less that’s what it is it ain’t no dribble in shut up no it’s not that it’s just yo I’m I’m getting paid for these Services right so I’m I’m against it and I’m a Draymond fan for sure but I’m against that well I mean
Let’s just keep a spade a spade man this rule is in place because they are soft what you mean wait wa I’m being I’m being dead serious NBA players right we all talking up here cuz we buckled that helmet up right after the first day of training camp we hurt right these
Players are Tak these players are taking low management games missing a bunch of games thinking the NBA ain’t going to do nothing and make y’all play basketball like the fans like shady said the fans are coming to watch you guys play and you just sitting out there chilling
Eating popcorn ain’t nothing wrong with you for 25 something games come on they this is their fault that this rues in place for them being soft I tell my kids all the time when they’re with me I don’t care what you eat dog but don’t be Act like no baby when your belly
Hurt when your mama when your mama come in here and you don’t be acting like no baby cuz I told you if you want to eat like a big dog you better act like a big dog right so if you putting that in your belly when your stomach hurting you
Better suck it up right so at the end of the day these basketball players man and I know a lot of them from the streets a lot of them from the hoods wherever they from if they see me in the streets they probably try to fight me what I don’t
Care you might be tough but in the NBA sitting down chilling eating popcorn and hot dogs on the sideline when people paying their hard earned money and not for five games for 20 30 Games 17 they created this rule so you can’t be mad at nobody but yourself for this rule so if
You’re missing out on money go back and look at when certain players was sitting out and missing basketball games for fun and now you missing out on this opportunity to make money so I don’t know if I it is their it is their fault I don’t know if I you
But that was extreme I mean they had to put in a flopping roll I mean I don’t want to get on the S I’m not call I’m not gonna call players s where I would agree with all of you is that this started because the players took it too
Far that’s right it it called it existed for a long time and then we gave it a name load management which made the situation worse because now there was something that we could point to and call it that it’s not that they’re sitting out because they just don’t feel
Like playing it’s for rest purposes but when you are are healthy and you have Kobe and you have Michael and you have the old school guys who didn’t fly on private planes and didn’t have massas every single day and didn’t have everything that we have available now
And they still played every single day in contrast to the way that the sport is played now it feels like they’re not giving the same level of effort and commitment it feels or it is cu that’s a difference I love when people say a feeling isn’t feeling isn’t necessarily
Real feel how do you feel I sit here on a desk with a heated blanket cuz you keep it on Frozen here okay with my coffee and you know I mean my charger and everything I I don’t I’m not going to tell another human being how their body physically feels I know what
They’re going to say and if they’re saying it’s rest so that they’re healthy at the end of the season that’s where I would agree they took it too far because it’s not about it’s not about that you should not be playing if you’re not healthy rest means that the entire if
You need that much rest it means that the entire structure of the sport needs to change you need to have less games you need to spread the games out know that’s the and that’s not that’s not going to ever happen you’re not going to take L money the owners aren’t going to
Take less money that is not happening so if we’re not going to advocate for changing the entire structure of the sport so that the players can be healthy because we do want the Stars to be healthy then there has to be some give and take so I I I just think that there
Was a there was we were on this end of the spectrum with the players taking it too far and being too Brazen about I need rest right to now the the correction to the other side where now the players are saying okay well people are missing out on MVPs which is affects
Your legacy people are missing out on tens of millions of dollars and yeah so I’m I why I say I see both sides of it is because I don’t want to tell another human being how their body feels but I do see the other side of because my
Thing is like if we all if all the All Star are sore right not hurt but the’re sore and we still play We gonna be on the same level and another thing is like when I when I think about this like the the whole rule of of if you play on and
You miss out of money or or or accolades or whatever what if the fans so you know what Joel mb’s not playing Steph Curry play LeBron ain’t playing cool we ain’t going to the game fluctuate ticket price thenice so yo if you ain’t if I’m not
I’m coming to the game I got see the tickets cuz I want to see LeBron James I want to see Steph carry throw behind the back two times hit the trade B that’s what I’m coming to see so if he’s not playing I need some my money back right
And then if that happens it affects the contract correct so like this this game we only look at the player aspect right and I always like that I to be honest I always love fans and you know but I never thought of them was like yo I’m
The I’m the show what are we talking about so really but but now when I when I now I’m retired yeah I see both sides and now I’m with fans I’m a fan now right I can’t see LeBron James play he a playing like that like BR what’s up my
Point is everybody gets affected though so let’s say if you if you don’t play and I got pay all my money and ticket holder and all that and you I want my money back and then if that happens then the owner will get his money corre the
Ownerone then he can’t pay you it’s a it trickles down all the way economy of it what are we talking about 82 games yeah and they saying you can rest for s of them if you’re not hurt you need 25 that’s a good if you not like that’s
What I’m you didn’t want to a lot ofam you didn’t want to say soft I’ll say soft but you talking about mentally they not soft yeah and and and that that’s just keeping it a spade like come on man how many games do you want to miss for
Just to eat popcorn like no I’m being serious do you love a game do you love a game they’re not missing these games the the reason why this is a conversation right now is because the these guys are missing games legitimately due to injury but when they are available they’re
Playing at an MVP level playing at an all NBA level I know we are talking about low management but what what what Draymond is talking about is a potential injury that’s now happening but that’s what I don’t like that because the injury happened because of contact ID wasn’t
Just running down the field and like oh my knee hurts kaminga fell on his knee and and and Draymond just went jumped to the leap of saying well maybe if embiid had not played today he wouldn’t have got hurt the most broken philosophy ever I don’t agree with get hurt with that
I’m saying that the effect of guys actually being injured and missing say 18 games but when they were playing all the rest of the those games they played at an all NBA level and they cannot be named all NBA so that triggers their contract to miss $40 million that is the
Issue but again you guys took it too far so there had to be something put in place to correct it and if if it wasn’t guys resting for rest purposes and not injury purposes we wouldn’t be having this conversation but the the last thing is and I guess we’ll talk more on this
Later the reason I can’t even pity the person who misses more than 17 games do the real injury is if you miss 20% of the games you probably shouldn’t be a all NBA player NFL All Pro Player NBA uh First Team all NBA NFL MVP if you miss
20 there’s not a world in professional sports whether it is Olympic sports whether it is NFL whether it is NBA whatever the case may be if you miss 20% of the games you should probably be dced anyway cuz you only played 80% so even if your 80% was an a that’s better than
A dude who played 100% of the joints at a B level like I just can’t stay healthy it’s a part of the game unfortunately it’s just a part of the game gu playing football you kind of just wired a little different because you used to seeing
People take no I’m just saying you used to seeing people take shots to go out there and play football and all that and you’re sitting out for rest man that’s that’s all I’m saying and even when you talk to the old school football players
They look at us like only can be on and I be looking at them all right I I lost some friends when I when I seen like yo you not putting everything to the game like that I can’t rock say you hurt so you not playing when all your teamat is
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Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones react to Draymond Green slamming the NBA’s 65-game rule on his podcast. Joel Embiid returned from his knee injury but visibly hobbled in the Philadelphia 76ers 119-107 loss to the Golden State Warriors. He has already missed 12 games and could miss more to disqualify him from MVP or related awards.
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I’m a “Kobe nut” is crazy work shady 😂😂
No worries. Because the way I see it the NBA is about to die down anyway. After LeBron and Curry who's the next Star? Nobody right now.
The fans love it.
lol this is in place and was agreed upon on by The NBA and the NBPA so I can’t get behind players complaining after they agreed to it
Acho dropping facts.
I think it’s a fair rule 20% of games miss for an in season award. 1 in 5 games got 0 pts or minutes.
The NBA should put in a rule that says “SHUT UP! and dribble” 💯 soft
JOY 😍
The more money they make,the more soft they become
Love the rule, players are not complaining about them checks
Guaranteed contracts. Can't make a 25 year old that has a 200 million contract to be hungry
You get played millions of dollars to play a game.. to show up for those games should be mandatory.
James Jones 💯 correct
Good rule!! You have to earn it!! They getting millions not playing!!!
Gilbert Arenas brought up a good point about this subject where the owners can abuse this rule to not pay the players by keeping players in the injured report causing them to play less than 65 games.
In 2019, I flew from Belize to Miami, my daughter flew from Nashville to Miami to see Raptors and Heat. However, Kawhi did not play…. total cost of flights and tickets over $3,000… average
GDP per capita in Belize in 2019 was $6,000
Yet again Draymond offering bogus commentary to something. I didn’t watch but if it’s a contact injury why is this fool blaming the 65 game rule? Embid could’ve gotten hurt in game one of the season from the same instance.
🤣💯James and Shady
That rule is the best thing the NBA has come up with in a while!