POSTCAST: Trae Young And Company Guide Atlanta Hawks Past Talented Phoenix Suns
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Your team every day now the Sha the Hawks got their third win in a row they beat the Suns 12910 tonight we’ll get into it it was an all-in win and we’ll talk about it in the an one we’ll talk about keys to the game too for a quick
Turnaround for the hwks they look to avenge a blowout lost to the Warriors that they had a week ago we’ll talk about it and who got next but first we got T and Tate’s takes a special he got snug Edition now normally T we start off
With our takes on the actual game we’ll do that later in the show but first we have to talk about the NBA All-Star Reserve results released Thursday now going into the night Trey young was averaging 27 points and 11 assists on the season so you think to yourself not
Sure what else 11 has to do but here we are the NBA announced Allstar reserves Jaylen Brown Donovan Mitchell Jaylen Brunson bam out of Bio Julius Randall Tyrese Maxi and Paulo banero for the east team but no Trey I’ll tell you who the West got as well Qui Leonard Anthony
Davis Devon Booker Anthony Edwards Steph Curry Paul George and Carl Anthony towns to round it out on the reserves tap why do you Trey make this team this Reserve team um I know it sounds crazy I I I I think that the instant goto is automatically going to be about the
Record um which should not have any bearing on you know what a player does behind their individual contribution to games leading all the way up to this point um but for some reason it does and I think that it does only for certain players by the way I think that there uh
Is the consensus will probably agree with me when I say that there’s something else underlining some of those reasonings behind why he probably didn’t make it either uh and I want to make sure that I mention this too because again I always mention I’m very Pro tray
Everybody knows it um but when you start looking at the kind of Seasons some of those other guys are having as well it’s going to be hard to pull some of those guys off of the list also um yeah we can get into more detail if need be at
Another time or at this time whatever the case may be but it is a really hard sell to pull some of those other guys off I’m just curious to know if it doesn’t have anything to do with a record why are these guys on and this
Guy is off and again it happened again yeah well you asked the question and here’s what I was told I kind of reached out to a couple of sources who’ve been in the business of covering the MBA as a whole some of whom have actually been Hawks beat Riders and these are guys
Who’ve covered for over two decades here’s the information I got back here’s a feedback and I quote coaches don’t like that he got two coaches fired including a guy who took him to the Conference Finals the Hawks have built the team to compliment him but all he
Does is put up big numbers but no wins he’s viewed as selfish and nobody likes playing with him also he’s not having a better season than Brunson Maxi or Mitchell now again that is not what Deshawn Tate and tanra batist are saying that is feedback that that we received
From Outreach that I gave asking those who have been award-winning Hawks beat writers award-winning NBA reporters for two decades who are who have inside knowledge of what is is this to your question tayen to your point what is it beyond the numbers like what’s the disconnect I am not suggesting and we
Are not suggesting on this show that any of this is valid or invalid you want to chime in R and if it’s valid go ahead and send a comment in and we’ll be happy to bring you into the program but the bottom line is if this is the narrative
That’s still out there that he got Lloyd Pierce fired and Trey got Nate McMillan fired and Nate McMillan took you to the Conference Finals and somehow you still got him fired and that you put up these numbers but are these numbers will in a lot of wins and they’re looking at the
Record saying well you’re kind of 20 and 27 because remember this was feedback before tonight’s win and they’re saying you’re viewed as selfish again not looking at this week because he’s gone off on on Dish and dimes but they’re saying nobody likes to play with him
Well we saw the now deleted tweet that showed DMS from dejon Murray and then it says Bruns and Maxi Mitchell according to these guys what the media the national media sees and somewhat the local media of the guy who gave me this feedback Brunson Maxi and Mitchell are
Having better Seasons that’s a lot Desa that’s like about four hurdles that Trey young would have to cross just to have gotten the consideration from the first round where it was players coaches and fan vote but if you think now that we’re to the second round where coaches make
The decision on reserved Lloyd Pierce is still a coach in this league right with the Pacers a winning team currently a winning program that he’s very much an integral part part of Nate McMillan highly respected for former player highly respected former coach not in the game coaching right now but still very
Respective really hard now to get over level two because the coaches pick reserves so again not saying that it’s right just saying it’s real I I I want to wake up two things the first one being that if any of this you know I heard people mention Something About
Records too just so we can kill the whole record thing and I understand that some of these players are anomalies they did not mention record in this by the way right except say but the wins aren’t big right relative to the numbers and I think that the record has something to
Do with it because again a lot of people feel like it’s empty calories when you’re looking at all these numbers that treay can put up however they’re not equating into wins right if that is essentially the equivalent to now us being able to talk about the record the
Record is just as good or bad to some people as some of the other players who are currently on the allstar team and are starters and the Hawks either have a better record than them or are have just as bad or good of a record we can even
Go look at Golden State amongst some others now we can get past that part the other part is the fact that I’m curious to know what they believe whether that’s the people that are writing this whether this is the coaches themselves regardless of whether you like him or
He’s you know disliked by other people whatever the case may be if we’re throwing that out of the window and you have an open open mind what are the numbers that Trey young has to have regardless of anybody liking him or not does that have to be a 50 points per
Game on average 100 points per game on average with 35 assists per night what does that number have to look like for people to say you know what we don’t like him I don’t like him they don’t like him but he has to be at least a
Reserve with this number what are those what’s the bar yeah what’s the bar because when you look at the numbers as far as even him getting another one of those Mountaintop or Mount Rushmore type accolades tonight excuse me everybody but he literally was able to do that he
Was able to do it by getting now to the fifth most number of 30 plus point games with correct 10 plus assists how much else do you want from him I don’t know maybe and maybe and maybe you know the the crazy part is maybe that’s like like
Like like like what what is the number like that that’s the only thing I’m trying to figure out here because clearly 30 and 10 you know uh for fifth you know fifth most in tie for fifth most in NBA history and we can go list
Down all the numbers I mean this year is better than last year and last year almost seemed kind of Blasphemous but you know what this year and last year both had in common mutually was that the record was not good I think the most disappointing part to all this I think I
Heard Dominique say this on the broadcast tonight um probably the most disappointing part of all of this is that his this is probably his best overall allaround game type of season because we don’t have he don’t play defense no more as a conversation we not
Doing none of that so like I think that there’s so many different other elements and things like that that you have to factor in and he’s starting to check boxes and still getting snubbed and I think that’s where it becomes somewhat civilized agreed and I know we got to
Run toan but I got to ask you this question real quick before we wrap because you start talking about it them becoming reputation you start talking about it becoming a narrative that he just can’t undo or at least hasn’t been able to undo so far in his career and
You start thinking about his legacy when you get into a player sixth League or the seventh league in the year he becomes one of those season veterans not just a veteran as in have been in the league two or three years so with that in mind in the absence of a championship
Thus far and let’s just say we’re not speaking negativity into being but let’s just say if that Championship never kind of comes or Never Comes during his years with the Hogs then making the Hall of Fame that’s your highest Accolade that individual Accolade but the way you get
That in addition to what he did during his time in Oklahoma is what you do in the league so if you can’t stack Allstar nods and you can’t stack NBA all Pros therefore then you know how do you get there like if your legacy is important
To you how do you get there and it goes back to the question you asked like what are what what do the numbers have to be I’m not sure that it’s possible to even be able to do that um you definitely have to be putting up a significant
Amount of numbers that nobody will ever be able to match you know we hear about you know some of these numbers that guys have put up from back in the day and it’s like okay who’s ever going to touch that and they still haven’t yet to this
Day it almost seems like that you would have to do that but the last thing I’ll say about this tanicha I promise is that since when did Trey young become more likable than a Draymond Green who never got snubbed for how unlikable he is or
Anything like that I I yeah I don’t know that that just confuses me a little bit yeah it’s like they say when you keep moving the bar and you keep moving the line how is somebody supposed to get over it tough call Tough call we’ll be
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Official Sportsbook partner of the NFL all right let’s Deep dive into a great game by the Hawks you know deshan I always say if you want to see Trey young go off deny him his Allstar flowers the very next game after every time that he’s been snub these last
Couple of Seasons he does not disappoint he makes that opponent pay and granted I got to give him flowers as well in that he’s been making opponents pay the last several games but this one just it kind of hit different he showed you early what he was going to do first few
Minutes hit a three then he hit another three then it was the steal and the score and I was like letting the L A Sayer no it’s like Paton Phil if you’re into that thing and board both predicted today February 2nd that it’ll be an early winter and I don’t think the Shan
That Trey young I don’t think ice got the memo yeah listen I mean I I think I’m not the only person you know I kind of speak for a a very decent majority of people when I say you know everyone’s kind of thinking how is
Trey GNA come out and play in this game and I think that we have to credit a little bit of the maturity that everybody said that he lacked at one point in time and we’re seeing him develop not only as a basketball player but obviously as a basketball
Professional when it’s clearly all about the win um for him he’s made that very known and he came out and played that way he could have came out and played selfish he could have came out and you know tried to make a statement with throwing up shots you know that he feels
Confident he’s going to make but he’s doing it out of frustration and distress or duress or whatnot but he can’t came out and he played his game and it happened not only 32 points and 15 assists but it also happened on 70% from the field and 63% from three so just let
That kind of marinate a little bit um but this kind of very much felt like a do it for try type of game a little bit kind of had some of that feel to it and it was it was it was very much a a team
Win um 21 points on 17 you know Phoenix turnovers I think um told a lot about it and it just it’s it’s I think we’re undervaluing some of these wins a little bit I don’t want to go crazy and treat it like they won a championship because
They didn’t but they have their chance now to go and um you know get on a four game winning streak for the first time this season and they didn’t just beat No Scrubs like they beat you know they they they you you you’re talking about backto back wins against two of the best
Players that this team has ever seen I’m sorry that game has ever seen with LeBron and KD so and they did it with their defense and they did it together as a unit and dare I say that this th this this little whatever it is that most people have been kind of feeling
Like me included that there’s something between deante and Trey that seems to be slowly even if it is sloth slow it seems to be kind of like slowly diminishing a little bit I love that I’m going have to use that slot slow is what it is been
Because you know couple nights ago I was like miss me with that whole they need more time the hell they do like it’s been a year and a half give me something bro it’s time because I think at some point you you’re now seasoned veterans
So my expectation of you is that you can take your natural your raw talent and you’re able to combine that with maturity and figure out how to communicate kind of like a couple that’s married and then they figure out oh I don’t know if we should have been
Married but they decide that maybe we’ll give it one more go and we’ll go and get ourselves into counseling and figure out how to communicate the same way and figure out each other’s love language can y’all figure out the right basketball love language you got the counselor Quinn Snyder’s there okay so
If you want this little marriage to work because it seems like they’re not gonna trade deante after all there are rumors that are persisting that Quin Snider has really gone to bat to Lobby to keep de of late so if that’s the case then I want all the little analogies I just
Used Qui the counselor DJ and Trey the married folk that need to get into counseling and figure it the heck out figure the basketball love language out can you do it so we can all press on and so Deshawn and I can get together postcast tomorrow and start talking
About a fourth win because how many times Des Sean have you and I seen two wins and started to get encouraged o they’re gonna string them together and then it doesn’t quite happen so exact so so I think you’re absolutely right that we loved what we saw with the Lakers but
You could kind make the excuse ah yeah no Anthony Davis and they were coming off the backtack in Houston and they had to play a very physical Houston team but here’s the thing the Lakers then went into Boston and smoked they they ate in Boston so please don’t don’t forget that
At any given time and that was without BR any given time Austin Reeds and the the others they can show you what type of Team the Lakers still can be and this son’s team granted they were coming in 500 they were coming off off of two wins
But they did have two losses before that but before that Deshawn seven straight wins so you are talking about a quality team in the Suns that these Hawks had to come across who also by the way had a couple days to rest so they came in a
Very fresh team and the Hawks really put it on him and like you said you already talked about the growth that we saw Trey didn’t make this just about get back because it wasn’t just the 32 points it was also the 15 assists and it was intentional that’s what you and I’ve
Been looking for don’t just pass the ball for the sake of getting it out of your hands but where is it going is it going to a player who has a good shot a better shot or a best shot that’s what we saw tonight and we have to talk about
Four quarter DJ this is the second game in a row where literally dejonte Murray went into another Zone and said okay fine we can’t get rid of these pesky Suns they keep coming back we had them by 11 now the lead is down to four and
Every time Deonte found a way there was one stretch where literally three possessions either he scored or he was responsible for the scoring and I really really appreciate that and I love what Robert Blackman is saying the closer the trade deadline the hugs get the better they
Play it’s been like this for years and you’re right but I’m here to tell you too Robert it does feel just a little bit different this time if I look at how de jante played last year or anybody who was in danger of being traded versus
This year again I’m with DeShawn I am not saying that that means we’re marching to a championship and I want everybody to stop reminding me that darn ECF Run Okay that was four years ago Let It Go good Let It Go Let It Go but for today how instrumental was dejon Murray
In closing out a game where yes KD Booker Devon Booker and Bradley Beal only scored 73 points combined but like I said the stuns didn’t go away DJ with three straight possessions made him go away yeah no doubt and I and I think that you know a lot of that just started
With defense I mean you also have to to credit de Jon Murray who obviously pitched in his 20 plus points but is also with the assignment of having to guard Devin Booker on the other side and that’s an every night thing for the most part for Deon Murray so I think that’s
Where we kind of have to give him so some credit and this is a game where we don’t really have to insert some random guy’s name again tanicha like this is for the second night in a row I don’t want I don’t want that to kind of go you
Know over seen or whatnot but for sure for sure but I you know I also think that um the Hawks not being able to get out into transition nearly as much and take advantage of Phoenix maybe not necessarily getting back but knowing that Phoenix is a team that you
Know turnovers can kind of be a thorn in their side A lot of times and sometimes they are kind of vulnerable to um kind of overlooking teams and whether they did or didn’t Overlook the Hawks and what the the Hawks have done recently or not that’s their fault for not taking
Advantage of it and um I mean listen salute to 10 consecutive wins for the Atlanta Hawks over the Phoenix Suns at State Farm Arena they only play them once a year so that’s 10 consecutive years that the Hawks have beaten the Phoenix Suns in the ATL indeed and they
Have their number and listen give the Hawks credit as well for being able to take advantage of the fact that the Hawks are now 14 and four when they take a lead into the four quarter pretty impressive numbers and they took advantage of a Sun’s team that is worst
In the league in terms of offensive rating in the fourth quarter but you have all of that in front of you and you when you do your job you still deserve the credit for it we will talk to you about keys to the game and give you one
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Game and we would be remissed if we didn’t talk about the incredible performance from From the Bench mob 2.0 showed up showed out the Hawks can always feel confident when they’re going into the fourth quarter or when they build up a lead whenever bogdon bonovich is doing what he’s doing setting the
Tone on offense for the second unit and when they’re getting the same from anaka oku setting the tone on defense wonderful night from bogie stat line was incredible because you literally saw him just four of seven I just want to stop right there with a 23 points5 assist
Rebounds but four seven from three Ana oku 15 points seven rebounds two blocks plus 23 rating from double o plus 13 from bogie you can’t say enough about the importance of when those guys especially because it is a light bench without sadique Bay being able to be on
It him still being in the starting lineup on the days when DeAndre Hunter doesn’t play or is so on restricted minutes cannot say enough about the importance of bench M play for sure you know I’m a frequent reminder to people that this team has not done nearly
Enough of upgrading its Talent uh coming off of the bench um but you know there’s a reason why we do have a guy who is often times forgotten about that’s up for six man of the year and buggy MCD donovich um you know we talk about Trey
That’s the obvious we talk about de jante obvious I mean it almost kind of feels like jayen has just come in and just skyrocketed and catapulted himself to a whole different level Beyond bogy to where anything that bogy does just feels like it’s an added bonus um but
These are pretty consistent numbers by bogy too by the way like this isn’t a every other couple games like this is starting to become something that we can kind of get used to yeah and by the way not that it’s maybe not anything worth sneezing at but I feel like this is the
Second consecutive game and I’ll be really interested to find out if this has ever happened before during his career but we’ve gotten we’ve gotten backto back games with OA oku uh converting on a three-point shot so extending his game a little bit we always talk about stretch fours and
Fives and guys that can shoot from outside and um while that is you know reasons to be highly critical of not having you know we talked about in the Atlanta Basketball party before earlier this week that when you don’t have somebody that can do those things it’s
Like a detrimental asset to a degree and you kind of limit yourself well give him credit for hitting the shots that he hit you know on tonight I like to see it you know go going forward um if if if it continues to go in but it the team has
Just been playing on a different level and just with a different feel in a very small window size um so we understand that part as well but you know give this team credit because it really just kind of feels like the chemistry just the feel of it it just feels better
Tonight’s game could have resulted in a loss the Lakers game could have resulted in a loss although they didn’t it felt like they were more connected and that’s what I like to see out of this team I was just going to say the same it’s that togetherness and the communication that
We talk about that we can’t produce stats for but when you see dubs more often than not you can trace it back to that you can trace it back to moments in time where that becomes a deal and to just coign for Ana oku anytime I look
Under that PF number and I just see one person my life and my entire night is made moving on the hws have ha chance to avenge their blowout loss of the Warriors a week ago and like you said earlier score four straight wins something they haven’t done yet this
Season how do they get it done especially because they could be manned down because literally we have sadique Bay who went down with an injury did not return in the game DeAndre Hunter can come in he’s supposed to come in tomorrow because he was able to take off
For injury load management tonight it was legit uh load management so he should be playing tomorrow so that might affect the game a little bit but I still feel like they can get it done how do you feel on them being able to do it especially on a quick turnaround like
Playing tomorrow night that’s going to be the tough part is because it is that back toback and that second half of the backtack is always kind of brutal um but I mean with the energy that they’re playing with and especially being at home makes you feel a little
Bit better because a lot of times they were playing on the road the way I feel like they should have been playing at home sometimes um so it definitely feels better but I mean I don’t know if this is a matter of playing with house money
Or if it’s just kind of like you know you don’t have as much to risk versus the other team or all the pressures kind of on those West Coast teams that are better than the Hawks are um you’re two and 0 so far and I’m not sure that
Versus both of these teams that they’ve played in the last two days that anybody would have given them last two games that anybody would have said we’ll be going into the Warriors game um you know two and 0 against those other teams so that’s a feel good within itself but it
Is a free flowing style I think they have to continue to do that continue to keep the turnovers down I think I looked up at the half and they had like two turnovers or something like that they finished with 10 that’s still a very low number very good number yeah yeah I mean
They got to do a little bit better from a free throw perspective what not but I just think that overall like for this team just needs to really keep on building on the on on on the positive and the optimistic the energy the question is and I know that we’re going to see
DeAndre play but in the event that there’s ever a situation where you don’t have DeAndre and then you don’t have you know sadik that just kind of concerns me a little bit because it doesn’t look like they’re russan you know I don’t know how fast they’re rushing DeAndre to
Get back but we won’t worry about the things that you know we can’t control as of right now just try to focus in on going in there and getting a w and look at the Golden State Warriors as another you know team that you want to try to
Prove that you know not about being more Superior than them but just getting a win against a team that is also struggling more than the Atlanta Hawks to be honest right and honestly it could be it’s another awesome win that they could potentially have because this Warriors
Team they are three and two in their last five games but their two losses came by a com combination of two points literally they lost against the Kings by a point dropped one in double O overtime to the Lakers by a point then a couple dubs but we know that dub before the
Losses and the wins they got that dub and smoked the hawk so I feel like some get back might be in the air and it’s gonna be a really interesting night at State Farm Arena on Saturday and I think the other thing is this when you look at
Where the Hawks are and kind of how they’re stacking wins you’re right you and I took a look at it from a gauntlet perspective right we looked across the entire six-game home stand stand and kind of said hey where in this six-game home stand can you possibly get three
Wins because hey you walk away from it with a record of 500 going against these quality teams that’s a good look they got two games left they already have three wins right so I think now they’re playing and I don’t want to say this like it’s a negative or like they should
Just sit down lay lay down and die but playing with health money now so anything you get here on out whether it’s a win against the Warriors the Clippers or vot I think it’s a good look just don’t go 0 and two Willie Carswell Jr you’re absolutely right my friend no
Excuses at the end of the day get it done tomorrow night just like the Jean Tate and I got it done tonight thanks for stopping by the lockon Hawks postcast remember to like And subscribe to our YouTube channel for more on the Hawks check out lock on Hawks with our
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Just one night after being snubbed from this year’s 2024 All-Star selection, Trae Young chips in 32 points and 15 assists on 70% shooting from the field and 63% from long distance in winning fashion versus one of the NBA’s most talented rosters featuring Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal.
After a victorious effort versus LeBron James and the Los Angeles Lakers on Tuesday night and cementing the 10th consecutive victory over the Phoenix Suns at State Farm Arena tonight, the hometown Atlanta Hawks will now look forward to welcoming yet another talent-heavy franchise in the Golden State Warriors on Saturday for the second half of a back-to-back.
Tenitra Batiste and DeShaun Tate deep dive into Trae Young’s snub from being an active participant on the all-star roster, what has been common denominator for the teams’ success lately and a flower giveaway to arguably the most consistent contributor on the roster.
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Great game. Love OO playing the closeout minutes. I'm so glad Murray woke up in the 4th. They have been playing good defense lately. Side note : Trae is an Allstar. Trae got John, Kevin, and Clint paid.
Trey should be an All star however, he would guarantee a trip if the Hawks were winning