Keyshawn Johnson And Richard Sherman Get Into A Heated Debate Over Kawhi Leonard MVP Case
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Below anyway me get into this uh this content here so y’all know we got a lot of kawh ler haters out here we the the new one is oh we shouldn’t pay much attention to the Clippers right now the reason we shouldn’t talk about the Clippers is because they’re going to
Lose in the first round I don’t know who they’re going to be losing to um or they’re going to lose in the second round so since they’re going to lose in the future no need to talk about them but aren’t the vast majority of the teams in the NBA to get into the
Playoffs of the 16 teams aren’t the vast majority of them going to lose as a matter of fact isn’t there going to be one winner so why don’t we just wait till the reg the end the end of the season to start talking about teams utterly stupid right but nevertheless
People are still saying it’s because they just can’t stop themselves from from hating uh the fact of the matter is Kawhi Leonard is proving a lot of his doubters wrong uh he’s having an MVP season he’s having an all first defensive caliber season um and he’s
Really putting a lot of his haters on notice and he’s playing all the games he’s played 45 out of the available 49 games this season Kawhi larders play so we can’t use the oh he’s not playing games argument anymore we can’t playing back toback all of that and they’re
Winning the Clippers right now just had the best 30 game stretch in the history of that organization and right now the Clippers uh in the last 30 game 31 games of 26 and5 you give me the team that’s playing better than that you won’t be able to find one but nevertheless people
Are hating now something surprised me yesterday as you guys know kesan Johnson is an LA n uh La native but more importantly he’s a staunch Lakers supporter but what I noticed about kesan is that he’s being he’s he was being very very um uh uh fair to Kawai Leonard
Uh yesterday on Undisputed when they were talking about Kawhi Leonard’s MVP chances um and it’s someone that that that’s a huge Lakers supporter I was surprised to see that level of cander and frankly honesty from kesan Johnson because it was a segment during the show when
Him and his co-host or yeah his co-host uh uh and Richard Sherman got into this very heated argument over Kawaii Leonard and Richard Sherman was like why does kawhai even need to be in this conversation and kesan was like because we putting him in the conversation like
What are you talking about right now and it got pretty pretty heated and Kean wasn’t letting Richard just get away with his stuff that he probably would have got away with skip with and I thought that was great television but more importantly I like the fact that he
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To each other yesterday skip skip I think that’s I think that’s tough I don’t think it’s high at all I think it’s relatively low because he doesn’t have the numbers and you know how I am skip that’s again regardless of the spot yeah um you know
You got you got you got uh yage averaging 26 12 and N I think you got embiid you know he’s hurt right now but averaging like 30 you got Luca donic averaging 35 10 and nine or N9 and 10 yes like skip you’re not going to 244
And six is not going to get it done for the MVP Giannis is averaging 31 and 11 you’re not going to get MVP over those guys with 24 4 and six regardless of what your team’s doing if he they’re number one in the west I mean I it would
Be cool it’ be great story hey they got a great team they’re doing great things but the MVP of the league is probably one of these other guys that’s carrying their team statistically and that’s usually who it goes to so I would think it goes to yanic joic shy gild
Alexander I mean it could go to to to Luca but you know I don’t think they’re playing well enough right now for him to get it yeah this is the beginning of the MVP situation for Kawai the beginning today on this show this is going to
Start the momentum to carry him into the MVP race to a whole another level and what I mean by that though skip is if they win the West that means that they probably are going to be a top four in the league record-wise they’re gonna be
In the top four if you go Boston Milwaukee Minnesota then the Clippers I think that’ll be that top four he plays on both ends of the floor though so when you start talking about outside of Giannis the other guys that have the potential opportunity and Beads hurt so
He’s going to lose he’s going to lose on that yes kawhai Leonard has been known to do what rest not play loow manage well he’s played 43 out of the 47 games this year so that’s the whole season to me he’s played the entire season thus
Far now when you start talking about the 246 and four he’s shooting 45% from three there’s only there that that that says that he ranks fourth to fifth in the league he’s fourth yeah okay at a 45 clip it’s pretty good I think it’s pry Sensational and the team is winning and
So you get that eyeballs and you get that momentum going in this situation so I think the odds for him to win it is pretty good I don’t think there’s I understand what Richard is saying typically you look at you go guys absolutely he’s averaging 30 oh my God
You just do yeah but he’s lights out efficient across the board yeah and when you’re efficient across the board and you lights out you can’t give it to nobody in Boston I mean yeah uh uh uh give it to jannis you you could give it you could give it to Giannis but like1
11 and but what we’ve always seen is people get it’s one of those deals skip tired of giving things to the same people in the NBA tired of giving it to the same guys all the time now Kawai is remember what I said the Clippers are on
The something top four in the league mhm record-wise and they’ve won they’ve won uh 25 out of the last 30 I understand the statistical side of the game yeah uh Richard you you like that there’s no question about it but when you start to think about as I said to you the train
Is just now being loaded and it will eventually go down the track by the time the MVP race is finalized it’s just starting to day this is the first conversation that I can think of about kawhai Leonard it should potentially having an outcome on the MVP race now when you
Think about Yannis he has amazing numbers there’s no question about it what a coach got fired okay so that’s going to ding him a little bit plus the burnout gonna ding him a little bit more and Kawai is continuing leading his team where people didn’t never think it was G
To work they always thought it was gonna fall apart he thought he wasn’t G to be able to play 43 to 47 games he would have probably played 20 games thus far this year all of that is pluses for him you have to factor that into the
Decision process as the voters start to cast their votes later on in the year now obviously there’s again go ahead sir no no go go go right ahead sir you I I just don’t I I I I I I mean the only reason he’s in the MVP conversation because we’re putting him
In there and unnecessarily because his numbers don’t put conversation with them is unnecessarily because because because there’s nothing that says that about his numbers if you look at the MVPs the previous MVPs the numbers are there you look at Joel embiid’s MVP season had 31
And 11 you look at yage is 26 12 it’s what I’m saying is when you talked about Lamar Jackson’s MVP candidacy it was his team was dominant they were the number one seed they had the best record in the National Football League it was Far and
Away they they were obvious so it it still his numbers weren’t there but his team was the number one team this isn’t the number one team in the in the NBA and so they’re not even the number one team on their side of the conference and put ination with guys
Averaging he’s 20th in points though that’s what I’m saying so you’re you’re talking about not the best team in the NBA and he’s not scoring the most so if you said he was the best team in the NBA and he didn’t have and he had these
Numbers I would be like okay I can kind of see where you’re coming from not really but we’re talking about guys that are putting up massive numbers and and and helping their team win games to a to the degree that their records are better than the LA Clippers and we’re talking
About the whole point is should he be included not that he won this is the same conversation we tried to have you have with us about Lamar we didn’t say at the beginning why would he be included because his efficiency on both ends of the floor things that he’s doing
The team is a winning 25 of the last 30 they’re hotest fish greet that’s why this is why this is the same conversation in a different sport with a different we having this conversation about SGA because team is number one in the west having a much better season than Kawai Le
We a conversation Richard that’s why we’re having here so what I’m saying so you heard the exchange there first of all I gotta applaud Kean Johnson and shout out to him because Kean I just saw has a show that he’s doing with Matt Barnes and his son I looked I looked at
I turn I forgot the name of the show I just I saw it it just popped up on my uh YouTube page and I I was looking at this guy the kid talking like this guy looks a lot like um Kean Johnson like he looks
A lot like him and then I found out okay it was his son and all that so that was pretty dope shout out to him are they doing it you know he’s doing this thing but anyway I was very very surprised to see him take this position publicly I
Was very very surprised because usually what people do in the media is Twerk It Up lie uh and and just go up there and say things that they know it’s not true but in this case for Richard I mean for keesan Johnson to be a staunch Lakers supporter but to still be objective
Enough to say listen this guy’s playing well for what what does it have to do with me being a Lakers supporter and this guy playing well he’s playing very very well uh and he deserves to be in the MVP conversation and he was pushing back on Richard and Richard I don’t know
What his thing was because his only thing was well the numbers the numbers the numbers and I’m like well Steve Nash won back-to-back MVPs go pull up his numbers and kaand has putting up way better numbers than Steve Nash I’m sorry to say and his team is winning and most likely
Win more than Steve Nash’s team right most likely win more so to me um I like the fact that he pushed back on him but this is the hate that Kawhi Leonard is going to have to get uh is going to get but what you’re noticing now is that the
Media is being forced to talk about it because you can’t ignore Excellence after a while you can’t ignore otherwise people stop taking you seriously CU NBA fans are going to be like okay but you guys keep talking about teams that don’t deserve to be talked about this team is
The hottest team in the NBA since December 1st 25 26 and five out of their last 31 games and you’re not talking about them so you’re telling me the best player on that team deserves no consideration to be on the MVP conversation when most of us rode off
That team after they got James Harden most of us don’t even consider Russell Westbrook but now what the what the haters are now saying is oh now they have this amazing big four really Russell Westbrook is a big four now really the James Harden and all of us
Were poo pooing on now all of a sudden James Harden is just a great player really and I got to say this cuz it’s something I’m I’m I’m concerned about uh I’m thinking about what if this was the Los Angeles Lakers in 2022 when they had acquired Russell Westbrook what if they
Were the ones Hott as a fish grease and LeBron was in Kawhi Leonard’s position don’t you think they would have been considering LeBron James for MVP conversation of course they would of course they would but when it comes to Kawai oh no let’s not talk about them
Man because they’re going to be first round exits even though most people most teams in the NBA when they get to the playoffs those teams all going to lose but yeah but you know I’m a hater so I be really thinking I’ll just be hating
So I got to say whatever come to my mind I’m glad that he pushed back and I loved it so what I want to know from you guys what do you think about that that exchange and what do you think about Kawhi lonard do you think he deserves to
Be in the MVP conversation whatever you guys think please leave your thoughts and comments in the comment section we catch you on the next show peace
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48 Comments
Richard Sherman just hating like Rashad Mccants on Kawhi. The only guys i have over Kawhi in the MVP race is Nikola Jokic and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. SGA especially because of his record and the fact he is leading a bunch of kids 25 and under and he is only 25 and has to run the point and play great defense. Imo as of right now SGA is my MVP but if they slip to a 3rd or 4th seed i dont believe he would deserve it over Jokic or Kawhi.
the best thing is Kawhi doesn't give a f.
No, because he’s a flipper. Period.
The stick up Duck’a butt is purple and piss!!! Period point blank. You should not be considered a “journalist” if you have a predetermined narrative as is Dick!!
He needs to sit this one out mane.
Absolutely KLaw deserves to be in the conversation. It’s a conversation!!! No one said crown him as such but have a conversation you cornball!!
As always stuff Broski!!👊🏽
But you bought up Steve Nash and that was Richard’s point. Nash had avg numbers but the Suns finished with the best record in the league both years.
steve nash won back to back mvps avg 15and 11, 18 and 11 cmon
Excellent show keep it going 👍
Just had to bring bron it
Which year was the year Wes Unseld won the MVP? 68-69? Didn't he average a measly 13 points and great 18 rebounds??? Statistical anomaly or not he won. Why can't Kawhi Leonard win it?
“Heated” is a stretch but Kawhi is killing it and they thought they had him cooked with that 65 game minimum now look at him and Sherman whole numbers logic is exactly what’s wrong with the mvp race as a whole, Russ mvp year caused this, they gave Nash b2b mvp scoring under 20 a game but because of his impact on that team he got it which makes him most valuable player to the team pretty simple concept no?
Honestly what do Charles knows about basketball. He once said " I gotta go through my rolodex" to answer a basketball question
Harden making you and ticket eat y’all words
Sherman is trippin
"heated debate" lawl. i need to stop falling for the clickbait man it's my fault
No, he doesn’t deserve to be in the conversation. You have to be at least top three and something to be MVP.
He has 2 many good players on his team he not getting it
SGA should get MVP. Respect to Kawhi definitely in the convo, he been hooping.
You’re going to ruin your channel with these clickbait titles man, you gotta stop…there was nothing “heated” about this.
I haven't watched a single clip of Undisputed since their new format started. After listening to this segment, I'm glad I haven't wasted my time. If this is the common Richard Sherman take, then he's competing with LeSean McCoy for the worst analyst on a sports debate show. There is 0 logic behind his argument. And yea, if I knew nothing about basketball, then I'd be a "numbers" guy, too, since that's the only thing I'd be able to fall back on.
Richard Sherman shouldn't be talking about basketball
You can tell that Sherman is a casual basketball fan. It's soo obvious cause his only argument is bringing up numbers to the argument and nothing else of substance.
IDK man…. i just can't get past the fact that Kawhi hasn't played consistently in THE LAST 4, 5 YEARS!!! My dude done missed like 60% of the last 4, 5 seasons!! Like Wtf! ..so now when he's FINALLY playing in a full season(up to this point so far!).. ballin & doing what we all know he's capable of.. we are all just absolutely blown away & singing his praises!? Not saying he not ballin.. but man… 🙄🙄 Ummm.. Okay.. it's about damn time!!!!! 🙄
IDK man… I'm just different yo.. & honestly am just so fed up with this current NBA climate & culture of EXTREME load management & uber Divaness.. where player's don't train & condition themselves in the off-season AT ALL anymore!!!!!! They literally don't & wait until Training Camp starts to get back into shape..& miss hella games throughout the season as a result of that & really wonder Hth & why they can't stay healthy!!!!..& just miss games for the hell of it, just because too!! & then… when they finally do play consistently for a stretch… we odee Salute & Praise TF outta them! 🤦🏽♂️ & on top of that.. players literally bounce from team to team to team until 1 or 2 teams are just SO stacked.. the odds are just overwhelmingly in their favor & they are ballin outt like the Clippers & Kawhi are!! 🤦🏽♂️
& mind you.. Kawhi is ballin with a stacked 'Super Team' too.. with THREE other MVP's or MVP caliber & top tier NBA players by his side! Like OF COURSE they're gonna Ball outt & probably win the damn championship! 🏆🤦🏽♂️🏆
He's the best player on the team that's been playing the best basketball since Dec. 1st. As Kawhi goes, the Clippers go. Of course he's in the discussion
Hard to listen to Richard talking basketball…
Basketball talk sound cringe on that show 😂
The fact that he's bringing up Steve Nash, that's how you know that argument makes no sense. Richard is keeping it simple, there is players with better stats, and their teams are doing better so we should be talking about them kawahi… that's all he's saying not saying kawaii is not having a good season. He's just saying there's teams with better record n with better stats, why that's so hard?
Richard Sherman’s arguments were “Kawhi doesn’t have enough stats in terms of points “ which is ridiculous. Kawhi is averaging close to 25 points with out of this world shooting percentage.
Steph curry was averaging 23 points the year he won the MVP
Steve Nash was averaging 15 and 18 points respectively the years he won both his MVPs
Dirk was averaging 24 the year he won the MVP
Kevin Garnett also 24
Derrick Rose 25
Tim Duncan 23
Karl Malone 23
Magic Johnson 22
Kawhi absolutely should win this year’s MVP
FS1 got bad shows with the bad talking heads and so I take anything from them seriously like I said time after time a few months maybe just one month I stopped watching Undisputed then I watched SPEAK with Emmanuel Acho, Shady McCoy, Joy Taylor and I say watched two shows at the most & they were really lame with most of their takes. Colin Cowherd from The Herd is the ultimate worst besides Skip Bayless with his takes & don't even watch him anymore, but it's no better with the personalities from ESPN when they talk NBA & other sports as takes get worst by the times. So I'm into the podcasts & into like a sports network like SportsGrid TV where can get better sports takes on the sports more and more.
Yooooooo! I'm a warriors fan but I have to give it to the Clippers man. They're on a roll… They're dominating right now.
I know it's too early, but I would love to see them win it all.
I think clippers are in a great position no pressure because everyone doubting them but you know you have a great chance to win a ship
one of the only times i agree with Gilbert. MVP is not the best player on the best team. its the Best Player in the whole league. the best player on the best team doesn't necessarily mean the best player in the league.
Steve Nash averaged 15 points all while Shaq was averaging over 30 and Nash still won MVP tf sherm talking about
R. Sherman should be disqualified from talking about anything concerning basketball after this.
Richard is showing us that he don’t belong on tv giving people his biased opinion. You can literally tell when he don’t like someone
I can't take Richard's mvp takes. Lamar Jackson is probably going to be unanimous for mvp in football and he had the same argument 🤦♂️
You speak nothing but truth my brother.. let’s go clips
I forgot undisputed was even on 😪😭🤷🏾♂️
It’s about to be 5 years since kawhi has played a full season and a post season at that😂😂😂. It’s warranted lol
Short and to the point KL deserves to be in the MVP conversation possibly could win it and Clippers have been playing a phenomenal basketball but keyshawn and Richard talking basketball it's like listening to "Is water wet ?" Debate 😂😂😂
James Harden ALSO PROVING HATERS WRONG…So Far… Had to S/O the beard. Thing is tho…Whenever Kawhi is ACTUALLY HEALTHY…HE ALWAYS SHUTS PEOPLE UP. EVERYTIME.
What I don’t understand is how can Derrick White of the Celtics get an all-start consideration for being a contributor to the best record in the NBA but Kawhi can’t be in the MVP conversation for being damn near 40-50-90 and having the best record in the west.
A healthy Clippers team can make it to the WCF
The problem is with the leak MVP award is that it’s not consistent on who they give it to. I mean yes typically you would think the best player in the league would get it but how many times have we seen a robbery with this award because it’s not an award a player can just go out and work really hard for and win. It’s up to the media to pick this award and I think we live in a time now where people really are calling it down the middle and trying to be fair. Will tell you that in the last 15 or 16 years since the 2000 the media has already made up their mind at the beginning of the season who they’re going to give the award to. Steve Nash, getting MVP awards over Kobe Bryant made a lot of people just not take this award seriously anymore.
Luka MVP, Kawhi got superteam
Charles from the Bronx, talk about the knicks & get Kawhi… out ya mouth.
Clippers are number 1 seed in west and second best record in the league.The media is extremely silent now that clippers playing well.KL should be in the conversation period this is the guy they wanted to advertise as someone that was going to load management most of the year they were wrong.The disrespect is real
How was this "heated"?
Sga or Luka you reaching even to think less you just like the cliooers